Eleven charts that explain everything that's wrong with America

[Capt Bringdown]

It's the inequality, stupid (http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph)

[Stringer_Bell]

Bullshit.

If those graphs were the truth, then why do our political leaders stress the message of Obama's desire to redistribute wealth when it appears that said wealth has been redistributed for decades? Find a better tactic than fancy, easy to read graphs.

For the sake of argument, I will say this, IF there is a drastic inquality in the concentration of wealth, it's because the rich are motivated to get better educations AND they work harder. Want to make money? Go to school for a good degree to get a good job. Not making enough money at your job? Become self-employed. Look at the blueprint for wealthy people and follow it, it's available to everyone so quit being lazy.

[Yonivore]

Bullshit.

If those graphs were the truth, then why do our political leaders stress the message of Obama's desire to redistribute wealth when it appears that said wealth has been redistributed for decades? Find a better tactic than fancy, easy to read graphs.

For the sake of argument, I will say this, IF there is a drastic inquality in the concentration of wealth, it's because the rich are motivated to get better educations AND they work harder. Want to make money? Go to school for a good degree to get a good job. Not making enough money at your job? Become self-employed. Look at the blueprint for wealthy people and follow it, it's available to everyone so quit being lazy.
:tu

[ManuBalboa]

Bullshit.

If those graphs were the truth, then why do our political leaders stress the message of Obama's desire to redistribute wealth when it appears that said wealth has been redistributed for decades? Find a better tactic than fancy, easy to read graphs.

For the sake of argument, I will say this, IF there is a drastic inequality in the concentration of wealth, it's because the rich are motivated to get better educations AND they work harder. Want to make money? Go to school for a good degree to get a good job. Not making enough money at your job? Become self-employed. Look at the blueprint for wealthy people and follow it, it's available to everyone so quit being lazy.

Sarcasm? Funny because it's true.

[boutons_deux]

"it's because the rich are motivated to get better educations AND they work harder"

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[George Gervin's Afro]

:tu

I thought you guys hated liberal university educations.. I guess you forgot

[Yonivore]

I thought you guys hated liberal university educations.. I guess you forgot
Who said the educations were gained at "liberal university" institutions (although, surely, some were)? And, not all "liberal university edducations" are equal or even the same as they were years ago, when many of the current wealthy went to school. Besides, there are plenty of wealthy that simply got there through hard work, entrepreneurial spirit, and smart decisions.

Nice non sequitur, George.

[boutons_deux]

Along with the decades of growing inequality of wealth has been a growing lack of social/financial mobility.

born poor, die poor, born wealthy, die wealthy.

Not quite as class-ful as England, but the UCA is moving in that direction.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Who said the educations were gained at "liberal university" institutions (although, surely, some were)? And, not all "liberal university edducations" are equal or even the same as they were years ago, when many of the current wealthy went to school. Besides, there are plenty of wealthy that simply got there through hard work, entrepreneurial spirit, and smart decisions.

Nice non sequitur, George.

How many 'conservative' universities are there?

[boutons_deux]

Liberty University is one, it's racist (no interracial dating).

dubya's WH was tainted pervasively with Liberty grads.

[Yonivore]

How many 'conservative' universities are there?
What's your point? That liberal university educations led to this horrible wealth inequality?

I agreed with the general premise that hard work and education is what will help you succeed and you want to have an argument over whether or not my support of an education makes me a liberal?

Have fun with that.

I'm sending one of my kids to Hillsdale College. (That's one conservative [acutally, libertarian] institution)

[Marcus Bryant]

Along with the decades of growing inequality of wealth has been a growing lack of social/financial mobility.

born poor, die poor, born wealthy, die wealthy.

Not quite as class-ful as England, but the UCA is moving in that direction.

Almost as if it was designed to be so, say about a century ago?

[George Gervin's Afro]

What's your point? That liberal university educations led to this horrible wealth inequality?

I agreed with the general premise that hard work and education is what will help you succeed and you want to have an argument over whether or not my support of an education makes me a liberal?

Have fun with that.

I'm sending one of my kids to Hillsdale College. (That's one conservative [acutally, libertarian] institution)


Who said the educations were gained at "liberal university" institutions although, surely, some were.

You stated that 'some' of these educations were provided by a biased liberal university. So I assumed you mean't the rest were provided by non lineral schools..so I asked how many conserative universities are out there?


Smart idea, send your kid to an indoctrination mill:toast

[Yonivore]

You stated that 'some' of these educations were provided by a biased liberal university. So I assumed you mean't the rest were provided by non lineral schools..so I asked how many conserative universities are out there?
Actually, I didn't mean that all. Many of the wealthy didn't go to college at all and, I'm not sure how many of them, that did, will credit their "liberal education" for their success.

Further, just because an institution is liberal does not necessarily mean all the professors are so biased.


Smart idea, send your kid to an indoctrination mill:toast
I'm good with a Hillsdale education.

[Marcus Bryant]

Naturally Americans are preoccupied with the prevailing doctrine at an institution of "higher learning" rather than the performance of that institution in teaching individuals how to think, broadening their horizons, and strengthening their character. This is a natural outgrowth of the continued sorting of America on the basis of tastes. Unfortunately, Americans tend to be unimaginative in this regard so we end up with the "liberal" flavor and the "conservative" flavor. In the process of flavoring, the end product is destroyed, much like everything else (ie art, civic life, personal life, etc...)

[Marcus Bryant]

Americans who form their identity on the basis of their political taste take thoughts and evidence that contradicts their tastes personally, for it is seen as challenging their very existence. Hence the explosion in political media, books, and films with a strong ideological bent. All that is bad in society is due to the other side. All that has ever been good is due to your side.

Not that this facet of human nature is new. But I'd say the intensity for none too few is approaching an unhealthy high.

[DarrinS]

Gee, another class warfare thread. Thanks.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Actually, I didn't mean that all. Many of the wealthy didn't go to college at all and, I'm not sure how many of them, that did, will credit their "liberal education" for their success.

Further, just because an institution is liberal does not necessarily mean all the professors are so biased.


I'm good with a Hillsdale education.

Of course you are..send them where they all backslapping eachother.. everyone agress with eachother... great for opening minds and analyzing differing opinions!

:toast

[Marcus Bryant]

So we have the spectator sport atmosphere of American politics.

[Marcus Bryant]

What makes many uncomfortable is being in the presence of individuals who are a member of the other team, or perhaps who haven't chosen a side altogether.