Why the Evil Koch Bros. Must be Stopped: They Support Drug Legalization, Gay Marriage

[Galileo]

Why the Evil Koch Bros. Must be Stopped: They Support Drug Legalization, Gay Marriage, Reduced Defense Spending.


They are trying to:

1. decriminalize drugs,
2. legalize gay marriage,
3. repeal the Patriot Act,
4. end the police state,
5. cut defense spending.

Wikipedia shows Koch Family Foundations supporting causes like:

1. CATO Institute
2. Reason Foundation
3. cancer research
4. ballet

MORE:

http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/24/evil-koch-bros-support

:lmao

[Winehole23]

In the same post, Chait runs off a series of sums the Kochs have spent over the years on various right-wing causes. Curiously missing, however, is the $20 million donation (http://www.lasocialdiary.com/node/125921) the Kochs made to the ACLU to fight the Bush administration over the PATRIOT Act. Browsing various accounts of the Kochs political spending over the years, that $20 million appears to be substantially more than the Kochs have contributed to all political candidates combined for at least the last 15 years. (Their gifts to the arts and other non-political charities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch#Philanthropy) exceeds what they've spent on politics many times over.)http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/25/the-koch-brothers-right-wing-c

[Marcus Bryant]

http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/25/the-koch-brothers-right-wing-c

It's not surprising that Chait omitted that. Since it was likely inconvenient for his meme, he left it out.

[boutons_deux]

Donating to ACLU doesn't mean the Kocks are civil libertarians or lefties or non-extreme right-wingers.

Kock Bros will spend wherever they think will protect or enhance their empire.

Anybody know specifically what in the Patriot Act the Kocks objected to?

[Marcus Bryant]

Obviously that it didn't go far enough and allow the VRWC to read our thoughts.

Tin foil check, croutons.

[boutons_deux]

The VRWC, corporate media division, dictates thoughts, no need for mind reading.

[Marcus Bryant]

Then how do we know you don't work for the VRWC?

[boutons_deux]

Dammit! MB, you've exposed me!

[Marcus Bryant]

It all makes sense now.

[The Reckoning]

1. CATO Institute




irony at its finest.

Cato the Elder was a Roman censor in the 2nd century bc who initiated staunch sumptuary legislation.

boomshakala


or could they be the next Grachhi?

[TeyshaBlue]

Dammit! MB, you've exposed me!

:lol

[baseline bum]

I never knew they fought Bush's worthless Patriot Act. Props to the Kochs for that, and thanks for sharing the info, WH.

[Nbadan]

Nice Mussolini made the trains run on time mentality.....Hitler funded the Opera too.

[baseline bum]

Hitler funded the arts because it was an enormous part of Nazi propaganda. It helped spread the delusion that the master race was the strongest and the most cultured. You'd go to the theater and hear brilliant renditions of Beethoven lead by legendary conductors like Furtwangler, and there would be Nazi flags prominently displayed all over the place to let you know who put on that great show.

[Nbadan]

If the Koch brother funded nothing but evil someone might see through to their heinous intent..so they throw some pocket change to legitimate causes and wing-nuts say...see the pig has lipstick on....

[boutons_deux]

I never knew they fought Bush's worthless Patriot Act. Props to the Kochs for that, and thanks for sharing the info, WH.

Only parts of the Patriot Act which put Kocks' imperial profits at risk.

[TeyshaBlue]

If the Koch brother funded nothing but evil someone might see through to their heinous intent..so they throw some pocket change to legitimate causes and wing-nuts say...see the pig has lipstick on....

Or it could be that the Koch brothers are a little more complex than your myopic world view will allow.

[coyotes_geek]

Or it could be that the Koch brothers are a little more complex than your myopic world view will allow.

Nonsense. You either wave the red team's pom-poms, or the blue team's. There can not be anything in between. :cheer

[Marcus Bryant]

Democrats/Left are communists.

Republicans/Right are fascists.

It's little wonder this country is fucked given these moronic assumptions undergird a majority of what is put forth as political discourse these days.

[boutons_deux]

"Republicans/Right are fascists."

this definition pegs the UCA as controlled by the VRWC and their Repug attack dogs, abetted by the passivity and dicklessness of the Dems in the face of the Repug attack

Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy

Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right.[8][9][10][11][12] Confusion over whether fascism is of the left or right is due to the inability to fit the economic policies into a clear-cut category, because while fascism is considered on the right politically, fascist economic controls were left-wing, though ended up benefiting social groups considered to be supportive of right-wing parties

Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[14] They claim that culture is created by the collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus they reject individualism.[14] Viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they see pluralism as a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety.[15][16] Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state.[17] Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement

Idolization and exaltation of violence, war, and militarism are central components of fascism, which fascists see as providing positive transformation in society, in providing spiritual renovation, education, instilling of a will to dominate in people's character, and creating national comradeship through the military service.[19] Fascists view violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality

Fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being exclusive economic class-based movements.[22] Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes ending economic class conflict to secure national solidarity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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Not a perfect match, but close enough, esp the conflation of govt and corporate action.

Certainly, the Repugs talk about and strive to eliminate all opposition to establish a single party, Permanent Republican Majority.

And the unnecessary Repug Gulf War sacrificed a couple 100K Iraqis soldiers and 140 US soldiers so the Repugs could get their war-mongering, murderous, Authoritarian Empire dreams under way.

[Marcus Bryant]

I rest my case.

[TeyshaBlue]

Indeed.

[boutons_deux]

Repug - Dem equivalence is a VRWC lie.

[coyotes_geek]

democrats = republicans

[TeyshaBlue]

You lie!:lmao

[boutons_deux]

REPORT: How Koch Industries Makes Billions By Demanding Bailouts And Taxpayer Subsidies (Part 1)

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/01/charles-koch-welfare/

[TeyshaBlue]

lol @ shillprogress.

Their job is to illuminate the divide they live off of.

[Nbadan]

lol @ shillprogress.

Their job is to illuminate the divide they live off of.

Or it could be that think progress is a little more complex than your myopic world view will allow.

[TeyshaBlue]

Yeah...they're every bit as complex as fox news.

[Nbadan]

Yeah...they're every bit as complex as fox news.

..and the Koch Brothers apparently..

[Winehole23]

It all makes sense now.Fake leftist sent to piss off the natives and attract the jackasses, discrediting leftism the whole way with his off-kilter antics and his completely unearned hauteur?

Tempting. But probably ultimately mistaken.

(For better and for worse, boutons seems to be sincere.)

[TeyshaBlue]

..and the Koch Brothers apparently..

It was pointed out that the Koch Bros have donated, heavily, to what is ostensibly, a progressive cause. Please show me where Thinkprogress has championed a conservative cause and you might have a case. As it stands, you are, again, demonstrably wrong.

And lol @ comparing a progressive blog to a billionaire. :lol Lrn2contextualize.

[boutons_deux]

T: How Koch Industries Makes Billions Corrupting

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/01/koch-polluter-bailout/

Can anybody refute these articles about Kock Bros with other than your opinions? Didn't think so.

Note the oil-owned Perry is fighting the EPA about pollution to protect the TX petrochemical corps' profits. No EPA, a Repug objective, would turn TX into a disease-cluster like Lake Charles LA and the lower Mississippi.

[boutons_deux]

Show me where Kock Bros donated to anything that didn't protect or increase Kock Bros profits?

Donating to a progressive cause doesn't mean the Kock Bros are progressive in any sense, but I understand how your faulty logic works, so no problem.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol...show me were donating to the ACLU pumped up their bottom line. You're the one making the accusation here, boutonski. Back it up....if you can.

[coyotes_geek]

Show me where Kock Bros donated to anything that didn't protect or increase Kock Bros profits?

Donating to a progressive cause doesn't mean the Kock Bros are progressive in any sense, but I understand how your faulty logic works, so no problem.

Feel free to go ahead and lay out your Koch Bros business case for each one of these investments.


1. decriminalize drugs,
2. legalize gay marriage,
3. repeal the Patriot Act,
4. end the police state,
5. cut defense spending.

Wikipedia shows Koch Family Foundations supporting causes like:

1. CATO Institute
2. Reason Foundation
3. cancer research
4. ballet

[TeyshaBlue]

Feel free to go ahead and lay out your Koch Bros business case for each one of these investments.

As soon as thinkprogress completes this assignment, boutons will regurgitate it for us.:lol

[Marcus Bryant]

Feel free to go ahead and lay out your Koch Bros business case for each one of these investments.



1. VRWC
2. VRWC
3. VRWC
4. VRWC
5. VRWC

[Galileo]

The Koch brothers unwittingly subsidized their enemies

The Koch brothers gave $20 million to the ACLU to fight the Patriot Act, but only $43,000 to Scott Walker’s $11 million campaign for governor of Wisconsin. Now, these libertarian brothers who support drug legalization and cuts in defense spending have been falsely branded as the puppetmasters behind Walker and Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. (The Kochs have never met or spoken with Walker. They’re Libertarians, not conservatives. One of the Koch brothers was the Libertarian Party’s vice presidential nominee in 1980, running against Reagan).

....

The Kochs have given millions to political causes, but this is dwarfed by the $600 million they have donated to non-political charities like the arts and medical research. They seem to be opposed to Obama partly because of his support for corporate welfare for the Kochs' competitors, and Obama’s record-setting deficit spending, which the Kochs view as a long-run threat to the country’s financial stability and thus their own businesses. (Charles G. Koch elaborated on this recently in the Wall Street Journal).

MORE:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/opinion-zone/2011/03/koch-brothers-unwittingly-subsidized-their-enemies

[Galileo]

WI State Pension Fund Owns Koch Stock

Truth is stranger than fiction.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wi-state-pension-fund-owns-koch-stock

[boutons_deux]

"Obama’s record-setting deficit spending"

Same Old Lie

The deficit is mostly:

1 spending on REPUG wars

2. reduced revenues from REPUG tax cuts

3. reduced revenues from the REPUG-enabled Bankster Great Depression

Bitch Lie, Meet Slap Truth.

[TeyshaBlue]

Same old boutonski.


coyotes_geek
Feel free to go ahead and lay out your Koch Bros business case for each one of these investments.



1. VRWC
2. VRWC
3. VRWC
4. VRWC
5. VRWC


Bitch slap, meet delicious sauce.

[boutons_deux]

yep, the VRWC's UCA, those fncking Corporate-Americans, is the primary threat to USA of Human-Americans.

Occam's Razor, and the data fits perfectly, repeatedly.

VRWC contains more truth that 10 years of Fox Repug Propaganda truth-i-ness.

(which isn't say much)

[TeyshaBlue]

So you got nothing. Again. Ok. :lol

[coyotes_geek]

yep, the VRWC's UCA, those fncking Corporate-Americans, is the primary threat to USA of Human-Americans.

Occam's Razor, and the data fits perfectly, repeatedly.

VRWC contains more truth that 10 years of Fox Repug Propaganda truth-i-ness.

(which isn't say much)

Damn VRWC using donations to the ballet and the ACLU to threaten USA human americans......................

[Nbadan]

Fake leftist sent to piss off the natives and attract the jackasses, discrediting leftism the whole way with his off-kilter antics and his completely unearned hauteur?

Tempting. But probably ultimately mistaken.

(For better and for worse, boutons seems to be sincere.)

So does WC and Yoni...

[Nbadan]

It was pointed out that the Koch Bros have donated, heavily, to what is ostensibly, a progressive cause. Please show me where Thinkprogress has championed a conservative cause and you might have a case. As it stands, you are, again, demonstrably wrong.

And lol @ comparing a progressive blog to a billionaire. :lol Lrn2contextualize.

I don't see where donating to fight a law which hurts your business is a 'progressive cause' just because you have to use the ACLU to accomplish your evil deads....I don't buy that the ACLU is progressive or conservative...but whatever....

I'm not going to defend Thinkprogress, they are what they are....but you defending the Koch brothers is very interesting....

[TeyshaBlue]

lol @ defending the Koch Bros. I just have fun mocking blind ideologues.:lol

[Nbadan]

Yeah.......Blind ideology........right.....


Just what is this Koch Industries? Should it be called a "company?" If so we need to re-think the idea of what a company and a business is supposed to be. Even the brother of Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch called the company an "organized crime" operation.

Koch money is a key driver of the conservative movement. Almost every <1> conservative-movement rock <2> you turn over <3> has Koch money <4> crawling around <5> under it. As the movement becomes more and more of a pay-to-play operation, conservatives of every stripe do more and more to protect and enrich the Koch operation. This has included blocking, disrupting and avoiding official investigations of accusations. It also includes funding front groups to advance the political and financial interests of the company and its owners.

Link (http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-news-section/69-69/5366-koch-brother-koch-industries-an-qorganized-crimeq-operation)

Perhaps we should rename Congress... "Kochgress?"