Kendrick Perkins agrees to contract extension with OKC

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[Venti Quattro]

lol Ainge

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Kendrick Perkins' contract extension with Oklahoma City pays him $34.8 million over four years, league source tells Y! Sports.

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[Lukor]

Crofl Celtics. Perkins gets a fair contract.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Kendrick be stackin paper to the ceiling now.

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The deal includes bonus clauses that can increase Perkins contract, sources say.



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OKC increased Perkins' 2010-'11 salary $2.3M to $6.70M and did extension off new number. Creative work by GM Sam Presti and agent Bob Myers.



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[benefactor]

lol Ainge

[VBM]

Next up...Mr. Westbrook

[Giuseppe]

That's criminal he was only making $2.3 million this season.

[Mr Fundamental]

I think it's a bit much for Perkins.

No post moves, no shot. Just tougness and defence. He deserves max 30M.

[Giuseppe]

Just tougness and defence.

That's how you win the last game played in June.

[HarlemHeat37]

His knees will be done in 2-3 years..

[mindcrime]

That's how you win the last game played in June.

Or you have the refs award you 20+ freebies in the last quarter.

[Mr Fundamental]

That's how you win the last game played in June.
If you are surrounded by 4 HAF, it doesn't matter. But in OKL, it will.

[Giuseppe]

I just found this underneath the cited article in the comments section.

[[[hnirobert3 - Mar 1, 2011 at 11:07 AM There goes Simmons’ theory that his Celts would be able to resign him in the offseason.]]]

[lefty]

Overpaid IMHO

No wonder they reached a deal so quickly

[Giuseppe]

If you are surrounded by 4 HAF, it doesn't matter.

It mattered last June.

[Giuseppe]

Overpaid IMHO

No wonder they reached a deal so quickly

If I hadn't a read several of these opinions about it being too much I'd a said it was fine.

[Mr Fundamental]

It mattered last June.
I meaned his shot or post moves. Boston didn't need his post moves, just needed his toughness.

[Giuseppe]

I meaned his shot or post moves. Boston didn't need his post moves, just needed his toughness.

Then we agree.

[Giuseppe]

Overpaid IMHO

Lefty, seriously, why do you think this? No ball busting. I'm really interested as to why you feel this way.

[lefty]

Lefty, seriously, why do you think this? No ball busting. I'm really interested as to why you feel this way.
While Perkins is a tough guy and a good defensive player, he doesnt bring much else.
His overpaid considering the overall package

But at the same time, real tough center have become a rarity in the NBA, so his value may be dictated by the market.

Or I wish I had that much money and I'm jealous

[sribb43]

Perk is overrated. If he played for the Bobcats, people would think was Ronny Turiaf. BC he played for the C's people think he is Mutumbo in his prime

[mavsfan1000]

Perk is overrated. If he played for the Bobcats, people would think was Ronny Turiaf. BC he played for the C's people think he is Mutumbo in his prime
Yes but that Celtics team was very good defensively in the interior. Without him, they are much weaker. For a team that needs defense in the middle, Perkins fits perfectly for them.

[Giuseppe]

Perk is overrated. If he played for the Bobcats, people would think was Ronny Turiaf. BC he played for the C's people think he is Mutumbo in his prime

This has merit. We're gonna find this out now. Is he peculiar to the Celtics, or, does his impact travel.

If it travels well "we're" all at extreme risk.

[bostonguy]

This isn't a bad move for OKC IF they can get a starting 4 who can score. Ibaka isn't going to cut it.

[IronMexican]

I think it's a bit much for Perkins.

No post moves, no shot. Just tougness and defence. He deserves max 30M.

Lol, it's not. You don't judge a Center on stats. His impact was felt almost as much as Rondo.

[mikeschy55]

nearly $9 million per year for 4 years..... this is going to be another haywood contract, probably worse since Haywoods last year isn't guaranteed. They both provide about the same thing..... except Haywoods probably a little better IMO.

[Kai]

OKC core is legit. Set for awhile too.

[Kai]

nearly $9 million per year...... not sure how long the extension is, but this could be another haywood contract

4 year I believe. Shouldn't be too bad.

[mikeschy55]

4 year I believe. Shouldn't be too bad.

Haywoods is like 8 million per year for 4 years as well, (actually 5 but his last year is completely non guaranteed, so it works like Damps contract)

[DJ Mbenga]

they still need a post prescence otherwise it means nothing. you can rely on just ft's and jumpshots

[LnGrrrR]

Good for Perkins.

[sribb43]

There offense is going to struggle, especially in the playoffs

[Cessation]

They still a jumpshooting team, lets see how that holds up in the playoffs.

[Killakobe81]

Personally if healthy I think he is a good "impact" player defensively and though not a weapon offensively sets the best illegal screens in the NBA.
Add to it that Perk has Ibaka next to him to play the roamain'/roving KG role (no not saying Ibaka is as good as KG) but he has the length and athleticism to be a poor man's version on defense.
I think great trade for OK and good signing. I didnt look at the exact numbers but even at the first year raise ...there are many players with worse contracts ...starting with Luke Walton ...

[Killakobe81]

I dont think scoring is their problem, if Harden continues to step up. I do think they need another wing scorer off their bench ...Thorton or JR smith would of been perfect. If he is hot they play if not they sit.

[Zelophehad]

His knees will be done in 2-3 years..
rofl you in med school or something?

I dont think scoring is their problem, if Harden continues to step up. I do think they need another wing scorer off their bench ...Thorton or JR smith would of been perfect. If he is hot they play if not they sit.

I think they have all the pieces necessary to compete, and Ibaka is an underrated offensive player. People think because he is African he is some kind of Mutombo kind of stiff but he's actually somewhat skilled.

[IronMexican]

How has Harden played this season? I saw he was shooting 42% That's pretty awful.

[Giuseppe]

there are many players with worse contracts ...starting with Luke Walton ...

That was the first name that came up for me as well.

Lord.

[j.dizzle]

Perk is hitting up the strip club with a couple stacks of 1's, no doubt.

[Kyle Orton]

This isn't a bad move for OKC IF they can get a starting 4 who can score. Ibaka isn't going to cut it.
Hatin' on THAT nigga Serge

[sefant77]

Haywoods is like 8 million per year for 4 years as well, (actually 5 but his last year is completely non guaranteed, so it works like Damps contract)

Stop writing bullshit.

Haywood is 6 years, 52.2 million. Guaranteed are 5 years - 41.7 million.

Haywood averages over 5 years 8.35 million

Perkins average over 4 years 8.6 million.

Haywood has a year more but Perkins coming off a huge injury. Funny how everyone ripped Cuban for the Haywood contract but Presti "did a nice job blbla"

[Zelophehad]

Stop writing bullshit.

Haywood is 6 years, 52.2 million. Guaranteed are 5 years - 41.7 million.

Haywood averages over 5 years 8.35 million

Perkins average over 4 years 8.6 million.

Haywood has a year more but Perkins coming off a huge injury. Funny how everyone ripped Cuban for the Haywood contract but Presti "did a nice job blbla"

Haywood lost his starting a job like a week after he signed the contract though.

[hater]

overpaid? maybe a little but have you taken a look at Haywood or Bynum's contracts???

[tlongII]

He's not overpaid. That the kind of cash that big men get in the league. I can't believe the Celtics low-balled him.

[Giuseppe]

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[Mel_13]

He's not overpaid. That the kind of cash that big men get in the league. I can't believe the Celtics low-balled him.

Boston didn't lowball Perkins. They offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA.

OKC still had space remaining under this year's salary cap and increased Perkins' 2010-11 salary from 4.4M to 6.7M. They were then able to use the higher figure as the basis for the extension. Boston didn't have the cap space to make the same maneuver.

[Zelophehad]

Ibaka is averaging 14.4 points per 40 minutes. Thats pretty solid for a fourth or fifth option which is what he's been the last two years. He also has solid mid range jump shot; he's shooting 44% on jumpers 16-23 feet from the basket while taking almost two a game, plus he can uncork some crazy dunks if he gets alone anywhere near the basket. He'll get a lot better too because he is still raw offensively in terms of having any go to moves either facing up or in the post. Because he's African though some people think he's a Thabeet level retard with no offensive skills.

[Jt.ONE]

nba=fucked

[rayjayjohnson]

Next thing I hear about extensions better be Denver giving Nene $60 mill.

[Muser]

Now they just gotta wait until Griffin goes home and they're set for some serious contending.

[Killakobe81]

Ibaka is averaging 14.4 points per 40 minutes. Thats pretty solid for a fourth or fifth option which is what he's been the last two years. He also has solid mid range jump shot; he's shooting 44% on jumpers 16-23 feet from the basket while taking almost two a game, plus he can uncork some crazy dunks if he gets alone anywhere near the basket. He'll get a lot better too because he is still raw offensively in terms of having any go to moves either facing up or in the post. Because he's African though some people think he's a Thabeet level retard with no offensive skills.

I dont, i think he has solid potential a great athlete, with a good motor who has improved every year. Plus he is STILL young ...should be interesting OKC has a tough choice if they signed him to alonbgterm deal now and he improves at the same rate he will be a steal (Serge) but if they wait he may command much more ...

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When reporting on Kendrick Perkins I think it should be called a contract hyperextension.

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[tlongII]

Boston didn't lowball Perkins. They offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA.

OKC still had space remaining under this year's salary cap and increased Perkins' 2010-11 salary from 4.4M to 6.7M. They were then able to use the higher figure as the basis for the extension. Boston didn't have the cap space to make the same maneuver.

I don't believe that's true. However, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment.

[Mel_13]

I don't believe that's true. However, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment.

It's absolutely true.


Perkins’ $4.4 million salary for this season was raised to $6.7 million, and the extension – with subsequent annual raises – was built off that.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjdnONVJl.ZowwrnPExUsjy8vLYF?slug=aw-perkinsextension030111

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When reporting on Kendrick Perkins I think it should be called a contract hyperextension.

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[tlongII]

It's absolutely true.


Perkins’ $4.4 million salary for this season was raised to $6.7 million, and the extension – with subsequent annual raises – was built off that.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjdnONVJl.ZowwrnPExUsjy8vLYF?slug=aw-perkinsextension030111

Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were saying that Boston "offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA." Clearly they did not.

[JMarkJohns]

Certain players' impact can be measured in statistical production. Other players' impact can be measured in contribution to cumulative success. I think Perkins is the latter.

The claims of overrated stem from a lack of production, which is fair, but defensively and on the boards, the impact of having a 7-footer who understands foot-work, angles, positioning, boxing-out and who has solid on-ball defense and is a good rebounder goes farther than can be measured through production alone. Perkins did a lot of dirty work that goes overlooked. Many times he defensed a play from simply being in a certain proximity. Many times another teammate may have capitalized on a rebound after Perk cleared the way.

[Mel_13]

Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were saying that Boston "offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA." Clearly they did not.


That's exactly what I said, and clearly they did.

4/22 was the maximum extension that Boston could offer. OKC was able offer more by using available cap space to bump up his current salary which then served as the base figure for the extension. Boston could not increase his current salary and had to base their extension offer on the lower figure.

[tlongII]

That's exactly what I said, and clearly they did.

4/22 was the maximum extension that Boston could offer. OKC was able offer more by using available cap space to bump up his current salary which then served as the base figure for the extension. Boston could not increase his current salary and had to base their extension offer on the lower figure.

I don't think so. Boston had Perkins' Bird rights. That could sign him for whatever they wanted.

[sefant77]

I don't think so. Boston had Perkins' Bird rights. That could sign him for whatever they wanted.

Extension...not a new contract, thats the big difference

[tlongII]

From the Boston Globe...

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2011/02/ainge_agonized.html


Celtics president Danny Ainge said on WEEI he and coach Doc Rivers "agonized'' over trading Kendrick Perkins.

Ainge is banking on the return of Shaquille and Jermaine O'Neal to the lineup and Jeff Green stabilizing the second unit for another championship run.

Ainge beleived Perkins was expendable because of his pending free agency and the expected return of the O'Neals.

“[Perkins] wasn’t interested in doing a contract extension,” Ainge said. “He wanted to test the market.” It was reported that the Perkins rejected a four-year $22 million offer from the team. Perkins was reportedly asking for $30 million over the same period.

"It's tough to play the O'Neals and Perk at the same time," Ainge said. “Shaq has proven to be better with our starters. We beat all of the top teams without Kendrick.”

Ainge said Jermaine "is coming along nicely" and Shaq should return in a week. "We feel good about our team."

Ainge acknowledged the deal has brought some emotion from his players.
“In time they will see the benefits for our team,'' he said.

What the Celtics are getting in Green is a versatile, experienced 24-year-old from Georgetown.

“He can play the four, three. He defends multiple positions. He can shoot the three-ball and post-up smaller guys,” Ainge said. “He has scoring, passing, intelligence, youth, energy all in one package.”

“We shed some tears today,” Ainge said after he told Perkins of his trade to Oklahoma City. “He’s a good kid and is going to a great situation.”

Today’s transactions left the Celtics with three open roster spots. Ainge said the team will aggressively fill those positions.

“We will be ready to pounce on players who will be bought out,” said Ainge, who is looking for help from outside and wing players, as well as a defender. He says guard is the least of his concerns.

“We may fill all three or just two depending on who we get,” Ainge said.

[tlongII]

The Celtics low-balled him.

[tlongII]

Extension...not a new contract, thats the big difference

There is no difference.

[JamStone]

There is no difference.

There is. Because Perkins already got an extension from his rookie contract and it wasn't a max contract, this next extension is based on his previous (or in this case, this season's) salary. A new contract, not negotiated as an extension, is a different animal all together. That's why the extension is for four years, and not six years. Four years is the maximum number of years for an extension for a player like Perk. If he were negotiating a new contract, he could technically get max dollars and six years.

[Mel_13]

There is no difference.

There's a tremendous difference.

Read the rules:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q52

[Mel_13]

The Celtics low-balled him.

No.

[tlongII]

No.

Yes they did. Are you trying to tell me that he was asking the Celtics to pay him more than they were allowed? I find that highly implausible.

[tlongII]

There is. Because Perkins already got an extension from his rookie contract and it wasn't a max contract, this next extension is based on his previous (or in this case, this season's) salary. A new contract, not negotiated as an extension, is a different animal all together. That's why the extension is for four years, and not six years. Four years is the maximum number of years for an extension for a player like Perk. If he were negotiating a new contract, he could technically get max dollars and six years.

You are right about that. He still could have finished his contract and re-signed as an FA for any amount though.

[Mel_13]

Yes they did. Are you trying to tell me that he was asking the Celtics to pay him more than they were allowed? I find that highly implausible.

I'm saying that the rules are black and white. Under the CBA, the max extension that Boston could offer was 4/22. The "report" that he had asked for 4/30 was anonymous and incorrect.

[tlongII]

I'm saying that the rules are black and white. Under the CBA, the max extension that Boston could offer was 4/22. The "report" that he had asked for 4/30 was anonymous and incorrect.

Can you provide a link that states 4/22 was the max Boston could offer? I have found two stories that state 4/30 was the max he could get. Regardless, Boston still could have let him become a FA and resigned him using his Bird rights. They low-balled him.

[JamStone]

In this season in particular, the extension happening before the season was over is key for both sides. Boston would have obviously liked to lock up Perkins before he became an unrestricted free agent this summer and watch some teams try to up his asking price which Boston feared could have gotten as high as $9-10 million a year. Perkins obviously wanted to get an extension and guaranteed money before the new CBA was negotiated because no one knows how that will affect the salary cap and individual player salaries. Moreover, it's always prudent to take guaranteed money that is approximately your worth when you have an injury and don't know what's going to happen when it comes to basketball. See Grant Hill. What seemed like an ordinary ankle injury became a 4-5 year odyssey of health issues for Hill. Good thing the Magic didn't mind securing him with a max contract back then. Both sides wanted to negotiate an extension.

[Mel_13]

Can you provide a link that states 4/22 was the max Boston could offer? I have found two stories that state 4/30 was the max he could get. Regardless, Boston still could have let him become a FA and resigned him using his Bird rights. They low-balled him.

There are plenty of stories written by guys that can't spell CBA.

I provided you with a link to the rules. Plug in the numbers. They offered him the greatest amount allowed under the CBA for an extension. They did not low-ball him.

[tlongII]

Looks like you are right. I can admit when I'm wrong. They still could have let him go to free agency though. From espn.com...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6170182


The Oklahoma City Thunder signed center Kendrick Perkins to a multiyear contract extension Tuesday, the team announced.

Perkins will receive almost $36 million fully guaranteed in the contract, his agent, Bob Myers, told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

"We had a unique opportunity to enter into discussions with Kendrick to solidify his future with our organization," general manager Sam Presti said in a statement. "We are pleased to know that he will be a part of our core group now and in the future. Kendrick's blue-collar, team-first approach aligns with the vision we hold for building a sustainable team in the Oklahoma City community."

The 26-year-old Perkins was unable to agree to an extension with the Boston Celtics, who dealt him to the Thunder at the trade deadline for starters Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic. Guard Nate Robinson also came over to Oklahoma City, which sent the Celtics a 2012 first-round draft pick and cash.

The Celtics had reportedly offered him a four-year, $22 million contract.

As part of the deadline deal that sent Perkins to Oklahoma City, the Thunder trimmed a tiny bit of cap space (a little more than $1 million), which gave them just enough additional wiggle room to help hammer out a contract extension. With Boston over the salary cap, the team couldn't offer more than $22 million over four years, while Oklahoma City was able to use that sliver of cap space to offer Perkins as much as $13 million more on a four-year deal.

Perkins said he was interested in playing for Oklahoma City as early as last offseason, when he discussed with agent Arn Tellem whether the Thunder might be interested in him when this season was over. He ended up moving sooner than he expected, and was initially shaken up at being traded away from the only NBA team he'd ever played for.

"It kind of felt like the worst day of my life when I got traded from the Cs, from being there so long. But when I got here, it kind of took my mind away from everything, I think, and everything just kind of blew me away," Perkins said after practice Tuesday. "It was kind of the worst but best day."

Perkins, who has a sprained left knee, hasn't yet made his debut for the Thunder but said recently that he's hopeful he can be back in time for the Thunder's six-game homestand that starts March 18.

In 12 games with the Celtics this season, Perkins averaged 7.3 points and 8.1 rebounds.

The 6-foot-10 Perkins was the 27th overall pick in the 2003 draft.

[Mel_13]

Looks like you are right. I can admit when I'm wrong.

:toast

[tlongII]

Given this, I find it strange that the Celtics took heat for making the trade. :wtf

[Mel_13]

Given this, I find it strange that the Celtics took heat for making the trade. :wtf

Conventional wisdom is that it hurts their chances for a title this season, and that a team that relies on players as old as KG, Ray, and PP shouldn't sacrifice the present for the future.

[LnGrrrR]

Given this, I find it strange that the Celtics took heat for making the trade. :wtf

It's pretty obvious, they disrupted the team chemistry for unproven talent. Most fans would rather they keep him this season, knowing the team will have to be blown up in a year or two anyways.

[The Batman]

:lmao

[manufan10]

Why are people saying that the Thunder traded Harden in order to keep Ibaka? I thought that the Thunder could have amnestied Perkins and still kept Harden and Ibaka, no?

[Bruce Wayne]

Why are people saying that the Thunder traded Harden in order to keep Ibaka? I thought that the Thunder could have amnestied Perkins and still kept Harden and Ibaka, no?
Yes. Keeping Perkins was plain dumb.

[lefty]

:lmao

[mudyez]

But but, Perkins can stop duncan, D12, Marc/ZBo!

[spurraider21]

Why are people saying that the Thunder traded Harden in order to keep Ibaka? I thought that the Thunder could have amnestied Perkins and still kept Harden and Ibaka, no?
yes. i've been pounding this point for a while, saying that Harden + any replacement center > Perkins + package in Harden trade, and i got laughed at for that :lol

[manufan10]

yes. i've been pounding this point for a while, saying that Harden + any replacement center > Perkins + package in Harden trade, and i got laughed at for that :lol

Members of the media are trying to use this series and combine it with Harden's terrible defense to justify the "keeping Ibaka over Harden" argument.