BYU's Davies kicked off team for doing his girlfriend

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/51348870-88/davies-byu-code-honor.html.csp

Source: BYU’s Davies “remorseful, heartbroken”
BY JAY DREW
The Salt Lake Tribune

First published 6 hours ago
Updated 44 minutes ago
Provo • A source with close connections to the program has confirmed that BYU star Brandon Davies was dismissed from the Cougars’ nationally ranked basketball team after he admitted to having sexual relations with his girlfriend, a violation of the school’s honor code.

Davies, a sophomore from Provo High, acknowledged his transgression to BYU officials on Monday.

Tuesday, the school owned and operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced Davies had been dismissed from the team but was being allowed to remain in school while his situation was under review by the Honor Code Office.

BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said Davies’ suspension from the team was for the remainder of the season and that his future at the school has yet to be determined.

A source told The Tribune that Davies is “extremely remorseful, heartbroken” but has accepted the punishment doled out by the school.

Wednesday afternoon, the school confirmed that Davies’ dismissal was not due to something that is criminal in nature, but would not acknowledge the specific portion of the honor code that he violated, per school policy.

Among other things, the honor code forbids students from engaging in premarital sex, and admonishes them to “live a chaste and virtuous life.”

Davies was averaging 11.1 points, third-most on the team, and a team-leading 6.2 rebounds per game for the 27-2 Cougars, ranked No. 3 in both major college basketball polls.

Searches of various police department and court records Wednesday morning by The Tribune did not reveal any brushes with the law for the 19-year-old Davies, who started in 26 of 27-2 BYU’s 29 games this season.

Jenkins said Tuesday that the school became aware of Davies’ honor code violation on Monday, the same day the Cougars moved up to No. 3 in both polls.

[IronMexican]

rofl

[Bill_Brasky]

neat nba news there.

[JayTheClown]

I agree this is some neat NBA news. Good for him tho.

[balli]

Should have gone straight anal like the rest of the BYU student body. They might've let him back for the tourney if he did that. The mormons don't one bit tolerate the breaking of their flock's hymens though, tbh.

[weebo]

What kinda bullshit school is this??? A college where you're not allowed to fuck. What's the point in going to college if you can't bang dem hoezzz

[DesignatedT]

:lol

[Man In Black]

Dude...can't even drink tea there. Curious, are there any Chinese Mormons or British Mormons? How can they have tea time if they can't even drink tea there?

[sefant77]

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[namlook]

Why would anyone with any basketball talent attend BYU? They are a bunch of wackos.

[Kyle Orton]

If I were Fredette, I'd go to the AD and say, "either he gets reinstated in time for March Madness, or I blackball this school once I graduate and make it impossible for BYU to ever get good recruits again."

[8FOR!3]

It's fucking Utah, what do you expect? Church of Christ school in Utah.

[Kyle Orton]

There's no fuckin way a white guy who violates this retarded honor code would be suspended for the rest of the year.

[VBM]

So the question is...who ratted them out? It's not like dude just woke up one morning and decided to tell the school he was laying pipe on the lady.

[TDMVPDPOY]

school of fail

[baseline bum]

He had to have knocked her up.

[Budkin]

I thought this was an Onion article. Utah is a piece of hypocritical Mormon trash. Fuck that waste of a state. And fuck Mormons (oh wait you can't).

[MannyIsGod]

Well, My Lobos are fucking the whole team for the 2nd time this season so I guess they can all quit the team.

[badfish22]

lol mormons. What a retarded group of people.

[balli]

I thought this was an Onion article. Utah is a piece of hypocritical Mormon trash. Fuck that waste of a state. And fuck Mormons (oh wait you can't).
Don't get me wrong, I hate BYU and understand your sentiment about mormons/Utah... But hypocritical? There's plenty of hypocrisy in Utah, sure, but in this case, isn't the school standing by its honor code in detriment to their own athletic interests the opposite of hypocrisy?

I mean, it's a dumbass rule, but they're displaying the integrity that goes along with enforcing it, no? It would be hypocritical if they let him get away with something they wouldn't let another student get away with.

[DJB]

school of fail

:lmao

[Kyle Orton]

IMO it's somewhat hypocritical to forbid premarital sex but allow 50 year old men to have multiple 13 year old wives.

[balli]

IMO it's somewhat hypocritical to forbid premarital sex but allow 50 year old men to have multiple 13 year old wives.

Yeah, well BYU isn't the fucked up DA's office.

[Kyle Orton]

^:lmao Heydrich's comment

[Pelicans78]

IMO it's somewhat hypocritical to forbid premarital sex but allow 50 year old men to have multiple 13 year old wives.

Actually its a different sect that allows polygamy if I'm right. I think mainstream Mormonism isn't in to that stuff. I could be wrong. I was wrong before like when I said the Suns would be fine without Amare.

[Kyle Orton]

Yeah, well BYU isn't the fucked up DA's office.

BYU is a school representing a religion that promotes polygamy and forced marriages. To indirectly promote that stuff but then punish a guy for fucking a co-ed the same age as him is as hypocritical as it gets.

[balli]

Actually its a different sect that allows polygamy if I'm right. I think mainstream Mormonism isn't in to that stuff. I could be wrong.
You're not, they're not (for the time being). But DoK's right (to a degree): there are whole towns full of polygamists fucking the life out of 14 year olds here. And nobody in law enforcement really does shit about it other than a token arrest every so often. TX and a few other states ain't exactly got clean hands either though.

[Kyle Orton]

Actually its a different sect that allows polygamy if I'm right. I think mainstream Mormonism isn't in to that stuff. I could be wrong. I was wrong before like when I said the Suns would be fine without Amare.

Technically it's a different sect. The only reason mainstream Mormons don't practice polygamy is because the government told them that if they wanted to be a part of society they need to quit being such primitive Neanderthals. If the government didn't tell them to change, they'd undoubtedly still be practicing polygamists, and I have not heard them at all ever separate themselves from Warren Jeffs Mormonism.

[Pelicans78]

You're not, they're not (for the time being). But DoK's right to a degree: there are whole towns full of polygamists fucking the life out of 14 year olds here. And nobody in law enforcement really does shit about it other than a token arrest every so often. TX and a few other states ain't exactly got clean hands either though.

I didn't realize it was that prevalent.

[Kyle Orton]

You're not, they're not (for the time being). But DoK's right to a degree: there are whole towns full of polygamists fucking the life out of 14 year olds here. And nobody in law enforcement really does shit about it other than a token arrest every so often. TX and a few other states ain't exactly got clean hands either though.

Arizona had them too. It sickens me how long we knowingly let the kinda stuff that happened there go on (teenage boys would sometimes get castrated because the older men didn't want competition). One day two women in that city escaped, went to the press about all the shit that went on, which forced the state to bully some niggas.

[Pelicans78]

I could understand the school suspending him for a game or so. The whole season seems a bit extreme. Why not just flog him 80 times and move on?

[Kyle Orton]

And tbh if you ever wanna piss a Mormon off call them Polygamists. My dad married a Mormon woman (lol Jew marrying a Mormon) who isn't practicing anymore but her ex-husband is and all of my step siblings do. Whenever I'm in Phoenix and wanna piss them off, I say they support polygamy.

[balli]

I didn't realize it was that prevalent.

It's not. I've lived in SLC for 2+ decades and I've not seen more than a handful of polygamists with my own eyes. Maybe a dozen sightings in my life. Small towns. But still, one settlement straddling the Utah/AZ border (Colorado City) is a place where 4,000 people are all inbred polys. They keep to themselves, live in weirdo compounds out in the desert. Like DoK said, sometimes the state is forced to pony up for a token raid.

[Sean Cagney]

Why would anyone with any basketball talent attend BYU? They are a bunch of wackos.Yeah and this proves it, what a fucking joke! I would agree fully with him fucking his girl and fully with you there! WHAT college kid wants to remain sex free for 4 years?
And tbh if you ever wanna piss a Mormon off call them Polygamists. My dad married a Mormon woman (lol Jew marrying a Mormon) who isn't practicing anymore but her ex-husband is and all of my step siblings do. Whenever I'm in Phoenix and wanna piss them off, I say they support polygamy.

I believe in a GOD but good lord idiots take this religion stuff too far IMO! WHich is why I strayed from it years ago! Now I just believe in a GOD and stay away from that shit.

If I want to piss them off I call them f in Morons, rings a bell.

[Kyle Orton]

A large amount of the Colorado City stuff got raided tho. Warren Jeffs, their former leader, is currently behind bars (I believe).

[ploto]

How much you want to bet she's white...

[Sisk]

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons

New euphemism for sex: "Breaking the BYU honor code."

[Kyle Orton]

How much you want to bet she's white...

I don't think black girls are allowed at BYU.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not like he didn't know this code existed.

Shoulda gone to Utah State.

[noob cake]

How much you want to bet she's white...

:rolleyes

Who would report Davies copulating with his girlfriend? Probably some whitie angry over Davies mating with a white girl?

[Trainwreck2100]

it's a private institution, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want no matter ho dumb it is, as long as it ain't hurtin nobody. Also this is the religion that gave us Twilight so hate them for that

[angrydude]

it's a private institution, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want no matter ho dumb it is, as long as it ain't hurtin nobody. Also this is the religion that gave us Twilight so hate them for that

don't forget battlestar galactica

[Thompson]

I mean, it's a dumbass rule, but they're displaying the integrity that goes along with enforcing it, no? It would be hypocritical if they let him get away with something they wouldn't let another student get away with.

If they were true Mormon believers, they wouldn't let black players on their team, since apparently the darker you are in this life the more evil you were in a previous life (according to Joseph Smith, I believe).

Those magic stones must be spinning out of the hat by now.

To address the issue directly though, it's not like they didn't inform him of their policies before he came to play for them.

[crc21209]

:lol Wow....

[Splits]

Does this mean he doesn't get his own planet?

[4>0rings]

He should go to a forest, come back, and say that God told him to fuck his gf and that he need not prove this, just believe it.

[DJ Mbenga]

well worth the punishment. that team was never going to do anything

[Axe Murderer]

tbh those mormon schools in Utah will kick you off the athletic teams just for cussing

[Killakobe81]

He should go to a forest, come back, and say that God told him to fuck his gf and that he need not prove this, just believe it.

LOL how many on here get that refference? Bravo 4 rings ... :toast

[Obstructed_View]

If they were true Mormon believers, they wouldn't let black players on their team, since apparently the darker you are in this life the more evil you were in a previous life (according to Joseph Smith, I believe).

Those magic stones must be spinning out of the hat by now.

To address the issue directly though, it's not like they didn't inform him of their policies before he came to play for them.

This.

In addition, I don't think black students were allowed to date white students until it was overturned a few years ago.

[TE]

Gotta respect the contract with your religion (if you have one) and with the religiously affiliated school that one is enrolled in.

[Trainwreck2100]

he could blame the Catholics, always a fine option

[rayjayjohnson]

seriously, how are there enough mormons to actually make BYU a possible 1 seed for the tournament?

[IronMaxipad]

lol religious people. What a retarded group of people.
fify

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

What a great idea! Let's forbid horny young men from having sex! Because prohibition of natural human instincts always works so well! :rolleyes

They should reinstate him to the program for having the courage to be honest about it... and then change the honour code.

[Bukefal]

'Wow, he had sex with his GIRLFRIEND, that's terrible' :lol

lol mormons.
What's wrong with people

mehh religion

[4down]

Should have gone straight anal like the rest of the BYU student body. They might've let him back for the tourney if he did that. The mormons don't one bit tolerate the breaking of their flock's hymens though, tbh.

Oh that's clever.

[Bukefal]

:lol

lQlIhraqL7o http://deepshadesofblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/byu21.jpg

[4down]

And tbh if you ever wanna piss a Mormon off call them Polygamists. My dad married a Mormon woman (lol Jew marrying a Mormon) who isn't practicing anymore but her ex-husband is and all of my step siblings do. Whenever I'm in Phoenix and wanna piss them off, I say they support polygamy.

Polygamist smack. way to bring it.


What a great idea! Let's forbid horny young men from having sex! Because prohibition of natural human instincts always works so well! :rolleyes

They should reinstate him to the program for having the courage to be honest about it... and then change the honour code.

This is a great point. If it was really the kid that came forward and let the school know he broke policy, and not just "I got caught, now I'm sorry" type of thing, there is a great case for forgiveness.

They are serious about that honor code though, believe you me.

[Kyle Orton]

lol butthurt mormon

[4down]

lol butthurt mormon

see actually I'm not - we don't allow that kinda stuff :lol

[Kyle Orton]

see actually I'm not - we don't allow that kinda stuff :lol

Correction: the government told you guys either don't allow it or don't expect to be respected members of society. Moving away from polygamy wasn't a choice to Mormons made because they felt Polygamy was wrong, they were forced to make it and were pissed they had switch to monogamy.

[Kyle Orton]

They are serious about that honor code though, believe you me.

Especially when it applies to black athletes.

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

Whoah, as soon as a boy or girl reaches puberty, all they want to do is fuck. The Mormon method is to send their young on two year missions for the church after high school, to make them more lonely and horny and introduce them to other former missionaries on their return so they quickly marry and make lots of little Mormons.

So, are we supposed to believe every sports athelete who ever played for BYU remained a virgin until marriage? Umm...I don't think so, or that Mormon cult has some pretty strong power. Maybe that's why they have breakaway Mormons who collect lots of wives. Too much abstinence means you really need to sow them wild oats.

[noob cake]

Whoah, as soon as a boy or girl reaches puberty, all they want to do is fuck. The Mormon method is to send their young on two year missions for the church after high school, to make them more lonely and horny and introduce them to other former missionaries on their return so they quickly marry and make lots of little Mormons.

So, are we supposed to believe every sports athelete who ever played for BYU remained a virgin until marriage? Umm...I don't think so, or that Mormon cult has some pretty strong power. Maybe that's why they have breakaway Mormons who collect lots of wives. Too much abstinence means you really need to sow them wild oats.

The marriage rate at BYU is ridiculous. That is the loophole they use.

[picc84]

An honor contract means they have to honor your word when you lie to their face. He should have just kept his fucking mouth shut.

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

meanwhile, someone needs to teach grammar to Andrew Bynum:

http://twitter.com/AndrewBynum#


AndrewBynum





I fell back for Brandon Davies! I'm not sure of all the details but he's a big part of there team! Hope it works out for him! 9 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/AndrewBynum/status/43239673497260032) via web



felt bad, not fell back. their team, not there team. Or when Andrew "fell back", was he about to allow Davies to mount him?

[Cry Havoc]

Correction: the government told you guys either don't allow it or don't expect to be respected members of society. Moving away from polygamy wasn't a choice to Mormons made because they felt Polygamy was wrong, they were forced to make it and were pissed they had switch to monogamy.

DoK, dishin' up a fine plate of factual knowledge right here. :tu

[Cry Havoc]

felt bad, not fell back. their team, not there team. Or when Andrew "fell back", was he about to allow Davies to mount him?

Cell phone predictive text correction perhaps?

[4down]

Especially when it applies to black athletes.

I don't know if there are public records on this, but from what I saw personally, there was no discrimnation in applying the honor code there. It's just not national news when the average student gets booted, and that happens way more often than an athlete

[4down]

Correction: the government told you guys either don't allow it or don't expect to be respected members of society. Moving away from polygamy wasn't a choice to Mormons made because they felt Polygamy was wrong, they were forced to make it and were pissed they had switch to monogamy.

well what I was referring to was the type of hanky panky that results in one's becoming butthurt. I can see how what I wrote might have been understood to be referring to the plural marriage thing.

And as far as plural marriage is concerned, it is absolutely true the church yielded to the governement. We believe in abiding by the law.

[Kyle Orton]

I don't know if there are public records on this, but from what I saw personally, there was no discrimnation in applying the honor code there. It's just not national news when the average student gets booted, and that happens way more often than an athlete

http://www.realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm#Inter-racial%20Relationships
A quote from Brigham Young himself addressing interracial couples:


Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the AFRICAN RACE? If the WHITE man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the PENALTY, under the LAW OF GOD, IS DEATH ON THE SPOT. THIS WILL ALWAYS BE SO. It's no surprise Brigham Young's school would take issue with a black man porking a good little mormon girl. The girl is lucky she wasn't executed.

More quotes from Brigham Young:


Cain slew his brother....and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the FLAT NOSE AND BLACK SKIN
Ham will continue to be servant of servants, as the Lord decreed, until the curse is removed. WILL THE PRESENT STRUGGLE FREE THE SLAVE? NO; but they are now wasting away the black race by thousands.... “Treat the slaves kindly and let them live, for HAM MUST BE THE SERVANT OF SERVANTS UNTIL THE CURSE IS REMOVED. Can you destroy the decrees of the Almighty? YOU CANNOT. Yet our Christian brethren think that they are going to overthrow the sentence of the Almighty upon the seed of Ham. THEY CANNOT DO THAT, though they may kill them by thousands and tens of thousands.
The rank, rabid ABOLITIONISTS, whom I call BLACK-HEARTED Republicans, have set the whole national fabric on fire.

[elbamba]

He should have just blamed it on his dad.

[Cry Havoc]

lol, Davies suspended due to an "undisclosed honor code violation" as per SportsCenter. :lmao :lmao :lmao

[JoeTait75]

It's no surprise Brigham Young's school would take issue with a black man porking a good little mormon girl

I'm pretty sure plenty of short white kids have been punished under BYU's honor code. They just didn't make the news.

Also, yeah, the LDS has a checkered racial history, but at the same time this kid probably got offers from schools that didn't once officially consider blacks to be sub-human AND would let him fuck any coed he wants without censure. Nobody made him go to BYU.

[Kyle Orton]

JoeTait is someone who blames minorities for all of his problems so that response doesn't surprise me.

[JoeTait75]

JoeTait is someone who blames minorities for all of his problems so that response doesn't surprise me.

DoK, you throw racist smack around this board like it's your job. WTF are you talking about?

[Juggity]

So the question is...who ratted them out? It's not like dude just woke up one morning and decided to tell the school he was laying pipe on the lady.

Clearly some repressed BYU student gets off to catching other BYU students doing the nasty and then turning them in. :hat

[Cry Havoc]

DoK, you throw racist smack around this board like it's your job. WTF are you talking about?

Because you blame him for going to a school, rather than blaming the school for the policies that you admit are stupid.

Under that logic, there would still be a color barrier in baseball. Why would Jackie Robinson have ever wanted to play in the MLB when they discriminate against blacks?

[Crookshanks]

Contrary to the "accepted" opinion that all young people want to do is have sex, there are still quite a few people who value virginity and remain virgins until married. It's not impossible - it just takes discipline and morals, which far too many people are lacking now days.

This young man knew the honor code when he chose to attend BYU - so he only has himself to blame for being suspended from the team.

[balli]

While I agree that kids fucking is a somewhat irrepressible part of human nature, it ain't exactly a civil rights issue. It's still a behavioral choice; one that BYU is allowed to be as illogical about as they are. It denigrates civil rights to draw the comparison.

[sribb43]

Mike Breen voice... "BANG!!!!"

[JoeTait75]

Under that logic, there would still be a color barrier in baseball. Why would Jackie Robinson have ever wanted to play in the MLB when they discriminate against blacks?

If there were 300 other major leagues that Jackie Robinson could have played in, and he chose to play in the most racist, intolerant of them, yeah, he would have been stupid to make that choice.

BYU doesn't hold a monopoly on Division I basketball. If they did it would be a different situation altogether.

It was his choice to attend that school. I'm respecting him as an adult with free will.

[Axe Murderer]

Cell phone predictive text correction perhaps?
:lol

why would the cellphone correct the gramatically appropriate word?

[Trainwreck2100]

its their american right to have outdated rules. Their privately funded so they can do whatever the fuck they want

[Mike Breen]

Mike Breen voice... "BANG!!!!"

Sribb.....PUTS IT IN!!!

[Kyle Orton]

If Jimmer Fredette got caught having a gay orgy with multiple other dudes, I guarantee he wouldn't have been kicked off the team.

[Pelicans78]

If Jimmer Fredette got caught having a gay orgy with multiple other dudes, I guarantee he wouldn't have been kicked off the team.

Maybe not, but he probably would have hidden somewhere to avoid the public scrutiny :lol

[Kyle Orton]

And yeah BYU has every right to be racist and have Neanderthal beliefs, my overall point is that BYU claiming they're merely "Upholding an honor code" is bullshit. This proves how racist they are.

[4down]

And yeah BYU has every right to be racist and have Neanderthal beliefs, my overall point is that BYU claiming they're merely "Upholding an honor code" is bullshit. This proves how racist they are.

Riiiiight - that's what they do - bring him in just so they can kick him off the team and show him his place right?


If Jimmer Fredette got caught having a gay orgy with multiple other dudes, I guarantee he wouldn't have been kicked off the team.

:lol They'd just shut down the basketball program if that happened


While I agree that kids fucking is a somewhat irrepressible part of human nature, it ain't exactly a civil rights issue. It's still a behavioral choice; one that BYU is allowed to be as illogical about as they are. It denigrates civil rights to draw the comparison.

great point - The kid knew the rules (whether society agrees or not) and its too bad it hurts both him and the team, but he knew what he was getting into.

[Kyle Orton]

Riiiiight - that's what they do - bring him in just so they can kick him off the team and show him his place right?
They brought him in viewing him as a slave for their basketball program. Once their "slave" acted up and started contaminating a white woman like Bringham Young feared, they acted quickly to stop it.

[rasho8]

They brought him in viewing him as a slave for their basketball program. Once their "slave" acted up and started contaminating a white woman like Bringham Young feared, they acted quickly to stop it.

You're an idiot. Seriously? Your hatred for Mormons seems pretty over the top. Did you try to date one and she wouldn't let you nail her? Besides Brigham Young lived in the 1800's. You are quoting it like he said it yesterday.

The kid knew BYU's policy, anyone that goes has to sign the honor code every year and promise to adhere to it. It wasn't a surprise to him. That and he is from Provo (where BYU is located at) and you expected him NOT to know what he was signing up for?

There really isn't anything wrong with being religious and letting religions do what they do. If you want to go to a religious school, then follow the rules. It may not be for everyone (including me) but they are the rules you agreed to.

And you need to get your facts straight. Polygamy was banned before Utah was annexed into the US as it was illegal in the US at the time and if the Mormons wanted to become part of the Union they had to adhere to the law. Therefore the ban.

The people that do it today are excommunicated from the Mormon church and are ostracized. Its splinter groups (like the Westboro crazies) not mainstream.

You don't hear much from the Mormons when it gets on the air because all it brings it bad publicity. But I am willing to bet more boys were molested by Catholic Priests than there are polygamist people claiming to be Mormons.

[Axe Murderer]

You're an idiot. Seriously? Your hatred for Mormons seems pretty over the top. Did you try to date one and she wouldn't let you nail her? Besides Brigham Young lived in the 1800's. You are quoting it like he said it yesterday.

The kid knew BYU's policy, anyone that goes has to sign the honor code every year and promise to adhere to it. It wasn't a surprise to him. That and he is from Provo (where BYU is located at) and you expected him NOT to know what he was signing up for?

There really isn't anything wrong with being religious and letting religions do what they do. If you want to go to a religious school, then follow the rules. It may not be for everyone (including me) but they are the rules you agreed to.

And you need to get your facts straight. Polygamy was banned before Utah was annexed into the US as it was illegal in the US at the time and if the Mormons wanted to become part of the Union they had to adhere to the law. Therefore the ban.

The people that do it today are excommunicated from the Mormon church and are ostracized. Its splinter groups (like the Westboro crazies) not mainstream.

You don't hear much from the Mormons when it gets on the air because all it brings it bad publicity. But I am willing to bet more boys were molested by Catholic Priests than there are polygamist people claiming to be Mormons.

haha...nice try.
the record demonstrates that you are in fact obsessed with me. last i checked you are the guy who created an alternate username on spurstalk to imitate me in numerous threads (or more acurately, you were imitating the ticket's "indie rock/indie film guy" but just without giving credit).

...so keep lying to yourself about how you 'just barely bother to even respond to me' or whatever if you want to i guess. any spurstalker with a memory won't buy your faggy posturing.

"wipe the blood of your vag''
okay seriously, how old are you? this is not a rhetorical question. you perpetually are busy providing evidence that you are one of the less mature kids in your 10th grade class.

" i've never seen anyone get so pissy over people ripping on him"
really? i have. one time i humiliated this guy called mono-something and he got so upset he created a fake profile and sign-on name imitating and mimicing mine so that he could 'get even.' sound familiar?

good look on all of your future endeavors, such as the test you'll be taking to get your driver's license when you turn 16 and your P-SAT's.

Grow up a little, too. Nobody likes cuntiness in a man.

Signed,
Pussyface
PS: ...have a kickass summer!

[Slomo]

neat nba news there.



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[Greg Oden]

omo, with the once in a lifetime goods.

[Trainwreck2100]

Lol slomo making a rare appearance to lay pipe

[cd98]

Not sure how BYU is the "bad guy" in all this. They have rules and people have choices, including athletes. Obviously Davies chose to go to the school and subject himself to those rules. I don't hear him whinning about the honor code or the BYU's allegedly discriminatory behavior. I guess he'll leave that to the infinitely more informed folks here.

I think BYU made a stand on its principles. A stand that most other schools wouldn't have the courage to take. I respect that. And those that don't respect it, well, I guess there a lot like those other schools.

Thought Pat Forde said it best.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6175251

[Axe Murderer]

Not sure how BYU is the "bad guy" in all this. They have rules and people have choices, including athletes. Obviously Davies chose to go to the school and subject himself to those rules. I don't hear him whinning about the honor code or the BYU's allegedly discriminatory behavior. I guess he'll leave that to the infinitely more informed folks here.

I think BYU made a stand on its principles. A stand that most other schools wouldn't have the courage to take. I respect that. And those that don't respect it, well, I guess there a lot like those other schools.

Thought Pat Forde said it best.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6175251

your arguments fly in the face of logic.
can leonardo dicaprio fanboy claim heterosexual credibility with a straight face? take a moment to ponder this.

i can see that you are a proud graduate of the Hillary Clinton school of "When people make valid points attacking you just say 'aw shucks, they are obsessed with me' University for the Weakminded."

[Kyle Orton]

You're an idiot. Seriously? Your hatred for Mormons seems pretty over the top. Did you try to date one and she wouldn't let you nail her? Besides Brigham Young lived in the 1800's. You are quoting it like he said it yesterday.
When BY said it doesn't make it anymore right. That kind of deep, passionate hatred doesn't go away with time. The fact BYU hasn't changed its name yet is despicable and proves how racist Mormons are. And no I'm not dumb enough to try and date a Mormon, I just have first hand knowledge of how backwards and nutty these people are.


The kid knew BYU's policy, anyone that goes has to sign the honor code every year and promise to adhere to it. It wasn't a surprise to him. That and he is from Provo (where BYU is located at) and you expected him NOT to know what he was signing up for?
I'm willing to bet the kid had several white teammates plowing their girlfriend and thought it would be OK for him to do. I doubt he knew Bringham Young was such a cold, racist human being.


There really isn't anything wrong with being religious and letting religions do what they do. If you want to go to a religious school, then follow the rules. It may not be for everyone (including me) but they are the rules you agreed to.
Agreed. The kid should have done his homework about Bringham Young's radical racism before going to his school.


And you need to get your facts straight. Polygamy was banned before Utah was annexed into the US as it was illegal in the US at the time and if the Mormons wanted to become part of the Union they had to adhere to the law. Therefore the ban.
That's what I'm saying. Mormons wanted to be Polygamists and force marriages, the only reason they don't is because of laws against it. What kind of immoral human beings need laws to tell them forcing multiple 13 year olds to marry a 50 year old is wrong?


The people that do it today are excommunicated from the Mormon church and are ostracized. Its splinter groups (like the Westboro crazies) not mainstream.
The people that do it today are true Mormons basing their belief system off of none other than the prophet Joseph Smith himself.


You don't hear much from the Mormons when it gets on the air because all it brings it bad publicity.
Gee I wonder why


But I am willing to bet more boys were molested by Catholic Priests than there are polygamist people claiming to be Mormons.
Catholics are no better than Mormons for letting that go on. You won't hear me singing praises about Catholics.

[cd98]

your arguments fly in the face of logic.
can leonardo dicaprio fanboy claim heterosexual credibility with a straight face? take a moment to ponder this.

i can see that you are a proud graduate of the Hillary Clinton school of "When people make valid points attacking you just say 'aw shucks, they are obsessed with me' University for the Weakminded."

Obviously you know BYU better than me, so I won't waste our time arguing about their beliefs. I respect them for making rules that hold their student body to a high standard and then enforce those rules, even when it would be more advantageous to them for not keeping them.

That's pretty clear logic, I think. Though I'm pretty weakminded.

[rasho8]

When BY said it doesn't make it anymore right. That kind of deep, passionate hatred doesn't go away with time. The fact BYU hasn't changed its name yet is despicable and proves how racist Mormons are. And no I'm not dumb enough to try and date a Mormon, I just have first hand knowledge of how backwards and nutty these people are.


You have first hand knowledge? I was raised Mormon. I think mine might be a little more first hand then yours. Calling them backward because they live according to a prescribed set of principles is pretty audacious and condescending at the least.



I'm willing to bet the kid had several white teammates plowing their girlfriend and thought it would be OK for him to do. I doubt he knew Bringham Young was such a cold, racist human being.


Yes and so were the slave owners back in the day, didn't stop them from being President of the US and heroes of our Country. You can't judge a person 200 years ago on today's standards. Back then they were taught black people weren't even people. So it's not surprising in any way that he would have adhered to the mainstream belief of the times.



Agreed. The kid should have done his homework about Bringham Young's radical racism before going to his school.


The kid GREW UP IN PROVO! He KNEW the code. He didn't have to do any research. He already knew. And I am sorry but I WENT to BYU. We are not all racists and homophobes. So keep your blanket hatred to yourself, please.



That's what I'm saying. Mormons wanted to be Polygamists and force marriages, the only reason they don't is because of laws against it. What kind of immoral human beings need laws to tell them forcing multiple 13 year olds to marry a 50 year old is wrong?


Name me a Mormon today, that you know, that WANTS to be a polygamist and I will accept it. Name me ONE mainstream Mormon that even thinks its a good idea. There is a history behind polygamy that you obviously don't know or are so blinded by hate as to not recognize it.



The people that do it today are true Mormons basing their belief system off of none other than the prophet Joseph Smith himself.


A belief system that has changed to exclude that behavior from the mainstream Church, just like every religion grows and changes over time.

[JoeTait75]

This proves how racist they are.

All the ways you could presumably prove how racist the LDS and BYU is, and this is what you choose?

It's like saying Alex Mack not making the Pro Bowl over Maurice Pouncey (or Marquise, whatever his name is) is proof that Cleveland is a shitty sports town. You could cite better examples.

[Kyle Orton]

Well, it involves the #3 ranked team in the country, so it's the only time BYU is relevant enough for anyone to give a shit :lol

[balli]

You have first hand knowledge? I was raised Mormon. I think mine might be a little more first hand then yours.
And more subjective.

Calling them backward because they live according to a prescribed set of principles is pretty audacious and condescending at the least.
Nah. It's backwards. Mormonism is clearly a fantasy and people live sometimes awful, repressed lives because of it; it's no coincidence that Utah consumes more anti-depressants, opiates and pornography than any other American state. Just because there are principles involved doesn't mean it can't be described as archaic and weird. Jihadists live by principles too, that doesn't preclude their being totally fucked.


Name me a Mormon today, that you know, that WANTS to be a polygamist and I will accept it. Name me ONE mainstream Mormon that even thinks its a good idea. There is a history behind polygamy that you obviously don't know or are so blinded by hate as to not recognize it.
Considering the whole "one mighty and strong" prophesy that's a fundamental part of MAINSTREAM mormon doctrine. Y'know, the supposed emergence of a person/deity prophesied to appear and 'set in order' the original conception of mormonism, I would say that plenty of mormons look forward to the return of polygamy. Whether they know it or not, mainstream mormonism is the splinter group, the FLDS are true to Joseph Smith and mainstream mormonism to this day predicts a reunion between the two.

[Trainwreck2100]

did i mention these assholes gave us "twilight"

[Kyle Orton]

You have first hand knowledge? I was raised Mormon. I think mine might be a little more first hand then yours. Calling them backward because they live according to a prescribed set of principles is pretty audacious and condescending at the least.
I have Mormon step siblings. If you don't think racism and magic underwear is backwards, you're pretty fuckin retarded. I was raised Jewish, but Orthodox Jews not doing anything on Saturday is pretty backwards.



Yes and so were the slave owners back in the day, didn't stop them from being President of the US and heroes of our Country. You can't judge a person 200 years ago on today's standards. Back then they were taught black people weren't even people. So it's not surprising in any way that he would have adhered to the mainstream belief of the times.
So you're condoning what Bringham Young said? God damn racist.



The kid GREW UP IN PROVO! He KNEW the code. He didn't have to do any research. He already knew. And I am sorry but I WENT to BYU. We are not all racists and homophobes. So keep your blanket hatred to yourself, please.
You're not homophobes :lmao:lmao:lmao?




Name me a Mormon today, that you know, that WANTS to be a polygamist and I will accept it. Name me ONE mainstream Mormon that even thinks its a good idea. There is a history behind polygamy that you obviously don't know or are so blinded by hate as to not recognize it.
My stepbrother. He thinks Polygamy should be legal.

[monosylab1k]

I have Mormon step siblings. If you don't think racism and magic underwear is backwards, you're pretty fuckin retarded. I was raised Jewish, but Orthodox Jews not doing anything on Saturday is pretty backwards.



So you're condoning what Bringham Young said? God damn racist.



You're not homophobes :lmao:lmao:lmao?




My stepbrother. He thinks Polygamy should be legal.

off topic, what do you make of the Patriots O-Line situation?

I think that line has been overrated for way too long now, and a blowup was kinda needed. Then again, the guys replacing Kaczur and Neal and maybe Light & Mankins might end up sucking worse.

Vollmer is still THAT nigga, but tbh I'm pretty nervous that he's the only sure thing on that line right now.

[Trainwreck2100]

My stepbrother. He thinks Polygamy should be legal.

is he for gay marriage too, cause they go hand in hand tbqh.

[rasho8]

I'm for freedom of marriage. If you want to marry your dog go ahead I don't care. Washer machines and cars as well. Go hog wild. If 3 people want to get married I am all for it. Forced marriage is bad, because it takes away choice, not because its a plural marriage.

[Kyle Orton]

off topic, what do you make of the Patriots O-Line situation?

I think that line has been overrated for way too long now, and a blowup was kinda needed. Then again, the guys replacing Kaczur and Neal and maybe Light & Mankins might end up sucking worse.

Vollmer is still THAT nigga, but tbh I'm pretty nervous that he's the only sure thing on that line right now.
They NEED to resign Mankins. The line as you said has been overrated as hell for awhile and has been flat out terrible in their last 3 playoff games. Changes are inevitable at LT, C, and RG, they can't compound the problem more by not resigning Mankins to a longterm deal to anchor the line.

IMO, they should move Kaczur to RG or waive him, but he's too slow to play tackle now with all the speedy edge rushers in the NFL. Draft a new center and a new left tackle.

[Greg Oden]

And more subjective.

Nah. It's backwards. Mormonism is clearly a fantasy and people live sometimes awful, repressed lives because of it; it's no coincidence that Utah consumes more anti-depressants, opiates and pornography than any other American state. Just because there are principles involved doesn't mean it can't be described as archaic and weird. Jihadists live by principles too, that doesn't preclude their being totally fucked.


Considering the whole "one mighty and strong" prophesy that's a fundamental part of MAINSTREAM mormon doctrine. Y'know, the supposed emergence of a person/deity prophesied to appear and 'set in order' the original conception of mormonism, I would say that plenty of mormons look forward to the return of polygamy. Whether they know it or not, mainstream mormonism is the splinter group, the FLDS are true to Joseph Smith and mainstream mormonism to this day predicts a reunion between the two.

Each Day Offers Potential

[v2freak]

I haven't bothered to re-read the article but has Davies been upset over the decision? There are all these people getting pissed off for him here, when I think he has accepted the decision like a grown man.

[Axe Murderer]

Each Day Offers Potential

...again with the crystal ball.
you know everything about me.
Monoman recalls a young Sylvia Brown.

unfortunately, no matter what you say, it is not conventional wisdom in the basketball world that the Hawks will be contending for titles within three years. ...and you can "mark my words" on that one, tough guy. you were making a random and overly bold prediction and if you review this thread you will find ample examples of other posters taking issue with your overeager prediction as well.

ps...did you hear about your main man "leo"? i heard he is reuinting with ms. titanic winslet herself. you and all the other fangirls must be so excited.

[Axe Murderer]

one thing i find hilarious about this whole ordeal is that LaceDarius Dunn pretty much beats the shit out of his gf and gets suspended like 2 games for it

[ploto]

While the school has the right to its standards and its code, if it has been unequally enforced, then there is an issue with that.