Dear LeBron, Stop taking last-second shots, you are the Anti-Clutch

[Nick Manning]

Sincerely,

Heat fans

[Venti Quattro]

Bosh would like to have a word with you

[ManuBalboa]

http://www.tnspsportsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/skip-bayless-dougie.png

[Nick Manning]

Bosh's shot was somewhat contested, LeBron was once again wide open

[Kai]

Bosh shot it, Bron got the second chance. Not like he really had a choice.

[hitmanyr2k]

That wasn't Lebron's fault. He obviously didn't want that ball for the last shot. It just somehow ended up in his hands :lol I don't think he had taken a shot the entire 4th qtr before that shot.

[JoeTait75]

I've seen LeBron step up too many times in big games to believe he's a choker. It isn't that.

He just isn't a good enough shooter to be taking the last shot of the game, at least not on a consistent basis. And he probably never will be.

[sefant77]

His playoff buzzer war PURE luck

[Ace]

More like Bosh stop being a puss and take the ball to the rack. All game he's shooting jumpers. Oh as far as the last shot, it needs to be Wade.

[Nick Manning]

More like Bosh stop being a puss and take the ball to the rack. All game he's shooting jumpers. Oh as far as the last shot, it needs to be Wade.

Hopefully Wade will man up and demand the ball in future situations like this. They need him

[redzero]

Where's HarlemPreach?

[sefant77]

I've seen LeBron step up too many times in big games to believe he's a choker. It isn't that.

He just isn't a good enough shooter to be taking the last shot of the game, at least not on a consistent basis. And he probably never will be.

Because he always have the option to bulldoze into the paint because mostly he get at least the calls.

[JoeTait75]

Because he always have the option to bulldoze into the paint because mostly he get at least the calls.

Well, when his back/knees/whatever start to give out on him, he'd better learn a go-to move aside from that.

[sefant77]

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/BOSHHURT.gif.pagespeed.ce.NowdpFJgAK.gifhttp://home.comcast.net/%7Efxgpic/He_mad.jpg

[ElNono]

What was Orlando thinking????

http://cdn.brobible.com/images/buzz/twohalfmen-4x1-sm1.jpg

[DAF86]

Lebron is clutch, since he got to the league I think nobody has hit more clutch shots than him, he's just a very poor shooter for a player of his level. Give Lebron the ball with a little time and a 2 pt difference and he'll get you a good shot.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Gotta love the hate spilling over. Man I can't wait for the playoffs. Good luck beating these guys 4 times. :lol

[lurker]

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[CubanMustGo]

Gotta love the hate spilling over. Man I can't wait for the playoffs. Good luck beating these guys 4 times. :lol

Crap, nobody's having any problem beating them now, the playoffs won't be any different. Too bad you won't be playing Washington or Cleveland then.

[ElNono]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2nhqm84.gif

:lol

[LkrFan]

Crap, nobody's having any problem beating them now, the playoffs won't be any different. Too bad you won't be playing Washington or Cleveland then.

LeBrick (http://loscy.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lebron-bricks.jpg?w=534&h=800)

:lol

[Spursfan092120]

since he got to the league I think nobody has hit more clutch shots than him
The guy in your sig may have something to say about that.

[SenorSpur]

When is the head coach or even D-Wade going to step in and take the ball out of LeQuit's hands, at final shot time? By now, it's obvious to everyone that LeQuit isn't clutch. How long are they going to keep letting him experiment these end-of-game practice shots? This is the "elephant in the room" and everyone seems to be afraid of addressing it.

[Kyle Orton]

Gotta love the hate spilling over. Man I can't wait for the playoffs. Good luck beating these guys 4 times. :lol
The Celtics have already done it 3 times.

[baseline bum]

When is the head coach or even D-Wade going to step in and take the ball out of LeQuit's hands, at final shot time? By now, it's obvious to everyone that LeQuit isn't clutch. How long are they going to keep letting him experiment these end-of-game practice shots? This is the "elephant in the room" and everyone seems to be afraid of addressing it.

Hopefully not tomorrow.

[sefant77]

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9666/lebronbrick.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

Lebron's clutch performance vs. Detroit was the best clutch performance of the generation, one of the best of all-time, in all honesty..his game winning shot vs. Orlando was one of the best shots of all-time..he has multiple game winning shots in the playoffs..he's one of the most clutch players of the generation, which is backed up by the statistics..

He can't seem to make any this season, for some reason..his all-around performance in clutch time has been shitty..just a poor stretch, happens to every great player..his shot selection in clutch time has been pretty shitty, too..it would help if they would run a play, eventually, but that's out of Spoelstra's element..

Wade should be shooting more in clutch time, but he never seems to get the ball..Spoelstra runs more plays for Eddie House, Bosh and others in clutch time, instead of giving Wade the ball..he uses him as a decoy(assuming Spoelstra even has a strategy, at any point)..

[redzero]

The Celtics have already done it 3 times.

But the Celtics don't have Kendrick "Russell" Perkins anymore.

[Kyle Orton]

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/BOSHHURT.gif.pagespeed.ce.NowdpFJgAK.gif

"I miss never playing on national TV when people didn't see I'm a big pussy and only judge me on paper"

[Kyle Orton]

But the Celtics don't have Kendrick "Russell" Perkins anymore.
Didn't have him for 2 of their wins against Miami either :lol

[4>0rings]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2nhqm84.gif
:rollin

[sefant77]

.his game winning shot vs. Orlando was one of the best shots of all-time.

That shot was at least 90% pure luck. On one level with that freaky Tay Gibson three against the Mavs this season.



he has multiple game winning shots in the playoffs..

Maybe the Kobe effect because he takes so many? I wanna see this statistic

[JamStone]

The Celtics have already done it 3 times.

in 3 games

[crc21209]

:lol. What other choice did LeBron have? Miller knocked the ball to him with only 3 seconds or so left on the clock, he had to shoot it up....

[TE]

Wade is more clutch than Lebron, imo.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Lebron was a man playing against boys. Now he's a man playing against other men.

[SenorSpur]

Hopefully not tomorrow.

True dat.

[SenorSpur]

Lebron's clutch performance vs. Detroit was the best clutch performance of the generation, one of the best of all-time, in all honesty..his game winning shot vs. Orlando was one of the best shots of all-time..he has multiple game winning shots in the playoffs..he's one of the most clutch players of the generation, which is backed up by the statistics.

The Detroit game was one that he single-handed won by himself. It was truly a brilliant display fo dominance. That said, clutchest players of the generation? Hmmmm. Sure would like to see those stats.

I don't care what kind of stats he has, LeQuit is a mental midget and he shouldn't be taking these shots - not now.

[Red Hawk #21]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2nhqm84.gif

What kind of Special Ed Shit is this?

[Seventyniner]

Maybe the Kobe effect because he takes so many? I wanna see this statistic

This. People who argue that Kobe and LeBron are the most clutch players probably think Iverson is a top 10 all time player.

[Bito Corleone]

Gotta love the hate spilling over. Man I can't wait for the playoffs. Good luck beating these guys 4 times. :lol
14-16 record against teams over .500 says otherwise. Enjoy the first round victory because it's the only one they'll taste this season.

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

That wasn't Lebron's fault. He obviously didn't want that ball for the last shot. It just somehow ended up in his hands :lol I don't think he had taken a shot the entire 4th qtr before that shot.


Nice homage to Pip, the best perimeter defender of all time.

[cheguevara]

look he is not known around the world as LeChoke, LeBrick, LeBronze, LeQuit for no reason. Dude is a choker when it matters. He is not a 100% choker but enough to qualify.

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

This. People who argue that Kobe and LeBron are the most clutch players probably think Iverson is a top 10 all time player.



:lmao @ anyone lumping Kobe and Lebron in together in a discussion about clutch. Imbeciles who don't know the game should cease to post.

[in2deep]

agree. Kobe is pretty clutch. Even Wade is pretty clutch. Lebron? nope

[ALVAREZ6]

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9666/lebronbrick.jpg

:lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Wade is more clutch than Lebron, imo.

This isn't really up for opinion....it's essentially fact. Wade is clutch, Lebron not so much. That's just how it is.

[ALVAREZ6]

Wade should be shooting more in clutch time, but he never seems to get the ball..Spoelstra runs more plays for Eddie House, Bosh and others in clutch time, instead of giving Wade the ball..he uses him as a decoy(assuming Spoelstra even has a strategy, at any point)..

So he's a complete fucking moron?

[Giuseppe]

They'll go as far as James takes them. Not Wade. James.

[picc84]

Thats because Wade will be in the corner while James dribbles the shot-clock out.

[Killakobe81]

They'll go as far as James takes them. Not Wade. James.

Even though wade maybe more "clutch" Cubby is right. Lebron was brought by riley to bring Wade to the promise land a la Moses for the Sixers and Dr.J back in 1983 ...Sure Wade won before but shaq helped the lead the way (until the Finals where he got outplayed by Dampier but I digress)

Lebron is just showing you he is not Lebron S Pippen ...that "label" has bothered him and he is determined to prove otherwise. GARUNTEE he goes nuts vs. the Lakers on THU because he IS THE ONE with the most to prove. Wade and Kobe have rings ...he does not.

LOL at those that thought this would NOT be an issue TWO alpha males in their prime are bound to have issues with who is the go to player in crunch time. Shaq despised Kobe for this and Del Harris was through once he let the Lakers season end with two kobe airballs vs. Utah ...

TBH so far the heat have been better about this not being an issue then one could hope. they still on pace for over 55+ wins and they have got along well ...but right now ... there seems to be some unrest about their crunch time execution it is starting to look very Cavalieresque ... Maybe Mike Brown wasnt the offensive nitwit ...he appeared to be?

[hater]

Lebron will take them to the gates of the promised land. But it's Wade who has the key to open such gates.

[Giuseppe]

^Exactly, the Heat have to see this (James) to the end. He has to be the straw that stirs the drink. If it fails they'll jump off that bridge when they get to it.

[JoeTait75]

Even though wade maybe more "clutch" Cubby is right. Lebron was brought by riley to bring Wade to the promise land a la Moses for the Sixers and Dr.J back in 1983

Except LeBron isn't the Moses Malone of the equation. He's the Doctor J.

[Giuseppe]

Except LeBron isn't the Moses Malone of the equation. He's the Doctor J.

(We) must all stand witness to Joe's assertion. We can't hear it. We have to see it. We all have to go thru the machinations, whether we want James to succeed at the zenith, or, take joy in his ultimate failure to do so. This table has been licensed & set for us by Stern, the NBA, and main stream media (MSM).

[Kyle Orton]

What does that make Big Momma Chrissy Bosh? Marc "No bologna" Ivaroni :lol

[Phillip]

I've seen LeBron step up too many times in big games to believe he's a choker. It isn't that.

He just isn't a good enough shooter to be taking the last shot of the game, at least not on a consistent basis. And he probably never will be.

This.

He's definitely a far improved shooter even between last year and this year, but he is going to have to improve on it quite a bit more to be able to hit late jumpshots consistently. Kinda sucks for him because normally he can drive and get to the hoop or draw a foul pretty much at will, but if its a GW attempt, he can get the shit knocked out of him with no foul call, because refs pretty much never call fouls in those situations.

But for people to make accusations as if he is not clutch, is asinine.

[ChrisRichards]

Lebron will have the last laugh in June. Not Kobe, not Dwight and most certainly not Tim Duncan.

[Mixability]

I thought Lebron/Bosh were brought to Miami so that none of their games would come down to a last second shot?

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

Lebron will have the last laugh in June. Not Kobe, not Dwight and most certainly not Tim Duncan.


Lebron James will win a championship before Tim Duncan ever does again. That much is certain.

But neither will so much as sniff the ring in '11.

[monosylab1k]

Walkin the streets with you in your worn out jeans, I cant help thinking this is how it ought to be. Laughing on the park bench thinkin to myself "Hey isnt this easy?"

[Killakobe81]

I also dont buy in to Lebron not being clutch. Many players even greater than Lebron (at this point) failed before they succeeded. Kobe's airballs, Magic running out the clock, MJ's struggles vs. Detroit. Hell was Shaq getting swept in numerous playoff series before ringing in 2000. It happens.
Lebron is the victim of the hype he helps cultivate. If dude was more quiet and humble like rose, Duncan or Durant I doubt he would face this much scrutiny. He has a Finals trip and two straight MVP's so of course he has been clutch at times ...but has choked or underwhlmed at others. But because of the hype people are revelling in their struggles.

Skip Bayless may be a moron, but part of the reason he scorns Lebron, is because to many have annoited him before he has won ...and many of my boys that are MJ dyck riders hate him (and Kobe) because of the comparisons. Kobefanbois do the same.
Me personally, I have mixed feelings towards Lebron. I want him to be great I want him to pass Kobe and MJ. My only issue is that I WANT him to win FIRST (after Lakers are done) BEFORE we start "bowing down or become witnesses ...but I am old school though, and until he does I cant call him the best and until he wins multiples he cant enter the GOAT convos ... I just call him what he is the most dominating player in the game. I calle dmy buddy last night after th game and said ..."Everytime I want to give Lebron the torch ...he does something to make me take it back ..."

Now, if he doesn't win this year? No excuses. He has a better #2 than MJ (arguably) He has a better #3 than Kobe or duncan, even though he is soft (but so is Pau). The coach excuse doesnt hold water for me, because when I pointed that out after the Decision many just laughed and thought the ball could be rolled out and the titles would flow.

If they do not win Lebron will face the heat shaq did when he hit L.A. but because of the hype it will be much worse. There is no Bulls dynasty in his way (like Ewing, David and other faced just an aging Kobe, KG and duncan) and a bunch of younger, flawed though talented, teams.

this is his time and if he allows KG, Kobe or Duncan to take it then I may have to start wondering if Lebron is truly as great as I think he is or can be ...

[JustBlaze]

Just curious, when was the last time Wade even touched the ball with the game on the line? Seems like that ballhog dribble, dribble, dribbles 'til the clock runs out only to chuck up a 30-foot airball.

[j.dizzle]

Got damn Killa, you sure have a lot of time on your hands with all the essays you write hahaha

[Killakobe81]

Got damn Killa, you sure have a lot of time on your hands with all the essays you write hahaha

I travel a lot jdizzle ...will have a lot less time next week. In saint Louis right now, will be home with the wife and kids next week ...

[4>0rings]

LeBump

[Dirk´s tounge]

http://jockpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/skip-bayless-dougie.gif

[Nick Manning]

LeBump

:tu


Chalmers > LeBron in the clutch

[benefactor]

:lol

[Red Hawk #21]

lol and the saga continues

[jjktkk]

Heat are just coasting.

[Red Hawk #21]

:cry Lebron is just missing last second shots for the kids :cry

[Kamnik]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2nhqm84.gif

:lol

[Venti Quattro]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4663/93422541.jpg

[dave]

http://nsa26.casimages.com/img/2011/02/28/110228064224789122.gif

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[hitmanyr2k]

I love how Lebron holds the pose like the shot is going in...never fails to make me :lol :lol :lol

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[mavsfan1000]

Lebron just missing shots he's supposed to miss. No surprises here.

[mystargtr34]

Perception is everything.

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

This year has been LeBron's worst 'clutch' season since 2006... yet he is still shooting .439% in clutch situations. To be fair by LeBron's standards he has been poor... because shooting 44% in clutch situations is not really 'clutch'.. but its funny how the media and haters make him out to be Patrick Ewing just because he has missed a few 3's in the last seconds of close games.

But prior to this season, LeBron has been out of this world clutch... not just in scoring but in rebounding and passing. In 08-09 he shot .556% in clutch situations while putting up something like 56-14-12 per 48 minutes.

Seriously, without turning this into a Kobe bashing thread (which someone will likely do anyway)... this 'LeBron is not clutch' creation over the last couple of weeks is actually more innacurate then the 'Kobe is clutch' creation the media has fabricated over the last 10 years.

Its pretty amazing what fans will fall for tbh.

[JoeTait75]

Seriously, without turning this into a Kobe bashing thread (which someone will likely do anyway)... this 'LeBron is not clutch' creation over the last couple of weeks is actually more innacurate then the 'Kobe is clutch' creation the media has fabricated over the last 10 years.

The "LeBron is not clutch" creation has been going on a lot longer than the last couple of weeks. It's followed him around ever since early in his career. Fair or not (and it's not, IMO) it won't go away until he wins a title.

[Killakobe81]

Perception is everything.

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

This year has been LeBron's worst 'clutch' season since 2006... yet he is still shooting .439% in clutch situations. To be fair by LeBron's standards he has been poor... because shooting 44% in clutch situations is not really 'clutch'.. but its funny how the media and haters make him out to be Patrick Ewing just because he has missed a few 3's in the last seconds of close games.

But prior to this season, LeBron has been out of this world clutch... not just in scoring but in rebounding and passing. In 08-09 he shot .556% in clutch situations while putting up something like 56-14-12 per 48 minutes.

Seriously, without turning this into a Kobe bashing thread (which someone will likely do anyway)... this 'LeBron is not clutch' creation over the last couple of weeks is actually more innacurate then the 'Kobe is clutch' creation the media has fabricated over the last 10 years.

Its pretty amazing what fans will fall for tbh.

Nice job Hollinger even Lebron knows he has failed ... check out his tweeter feeds. Problem is stats alone nor media alone should not be how you judge sports.

[Nick Manning]

Once again, my thread title speaks for itself. Wade needs to sac up and knock that faggot down a couple pegs

[JoeTait75]

Once again, my thread title speaks for itself. Wade needs to sac up and knock that faggot down a couple pegs

D-Wade made the bed, now he's got to lie in it.

[Nick Manning]

D-Wade made the bed, now he's got to lie in it.

True, but he's gotta know when to kick the bitch outta bed and send her packing with some taxi $$

[Mike D]

Mystar, I can put together a series of statistics that shows Lakers center Andrew Bynum as being the best defensive center in the league. Better than all of the rest, bar none. Does that mean he is? Or that the stats don't accurately account for everything? I'm serious by the way. Since we are simply discussing what fans will believe instead of looking at the arbitrary stats, it's relevant.


Perception is everything.

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

This year has been LeBron's worst 'clutch' season since 2006... yet he is still shooting .439% in clutch situations. To be fair by LeBron's standards he has been poor... because shooting 44% in clutch situations is not really 'clutch'.. but its funny how the media and haters make him out to be Patrick Ewing just because he has missed a few 3's in the last seconds of close games.

But prior to this season, LeBron has been out of this world clutch... not just in scoring but in rebounding and passing. In 08-09 he shot .556% in clutch situations while putting up something like 56-14-12 per 48 minutes.

Seriously, without turning this into a Kobe bashing thread (which someone will likely do anyway)... this 'LeBron is not clutch' creation over the last couple of weeks is actually more innacurate then the 'Kobe is clutch' creation the media has fabricated over the last 10 years.

Its pretty amazing what fans will fall for tbh.

[Nick Manning]

Mystar, I can put together a series of statistics that shows Lakers center Andrew Bynum as being the best defensive center in the league. Better than all of the rest, bar none. Does that mean he is? Or that the stats don't accurately account for everything? I'm serious by the way. Since we are simply discussing what fans will believe instead of looking at the arbitrary stats, it's relevant.

crofl that was gold

[mystargtr34]

Nice job Hollinger even Lebron knows he has failed ... check out his tweeter feeds. Problem is stats alone nor media alone should not be how you judge sports.

Nice job reading there Nostradamus. :toast Have another go.. this time i made it easier for you.


This year has been LeBron's worst 'clutch' season since 2006... yet he is still shooting .439% in clutch situations. To be fair by LeBron's standards he has been poor... because shooting 44% in clutch situations is not really 'clutch'.. but its funny how the media and haters make him out to be Patrick Ewing just because he has missed a few 3's in the last seconds of close games.

[mystargtr34]

The "LeBron is not clutch" creation has been going on a lot longer than the last couple of weeks. It's followed him around ever since early in his career. Fair or not (and it's not, IMO) it won't go away until he wins a title.

Of course. There will always be the anti-LeBron side preaching the negative shit... and that includes the higher profile media.. they all have their own agenda. This has been the case since LeBron entered the league... the same way there is with the anti-Kobe sections of the media who continually publish stuff in an attempt to degrade Kobe's accomplishments.

Eventually the fans will begin to treat it as if its true since its continually beinng written about.. since those who cant make up their own opinion will always lean towards whats fed to them.

[Killakobe81]

Nice job reading there Nostradamus. :toast Have another go.. this time i made it easier for you.

Ok, your point?

My point was I dont care about his stats this year or the last 5 ...
You put in all those links to prove what?

That Lebron's clutch stats were really good. Game winners aginst the Bucks in 2007 is supposed to prove that?

To know Lebron can be clutch all i need to see is the 2007 (IIRC)ECF vs the Pistons ...

Doesnt change Last year vs. the Celts or the year before aginst the Magic or the shitty performances this year. YOu are right Lebron is better than this in the clutch ...but im getting tired of waiting for it. ANd I actually like Lebron.
But he has to figure things out ...

Fix meant Magic the year before ...

[redzero]

Doesnt change Last year vs. the Celts or the year before aginst the Celts or the shitty performances this year. YOu are right Lebron is better than this in the clutch ...but im getting tired of waiting for it.

LeBron didn't go against the Celtics in 09. He played against the Magic and put on a performance that has yet to be matched.

LeBron did struggle against the Celtics in 08, with that 2-18 performance. But then again, he had 40+ in game 7 and didn't hit only a fourth of his shots.

[Nick Manning]

lol mystar completely ignoring the fact that Mike D jizzed all over his post

[mystargtr34]

Ok, your point?

My point was I dont care about his stats this year or the last 5 ...
You put in all those links to prove what?

That Lebron's clutch stats were really good. Game winners aginst the Bucks in 2007 is supposed to prove that?

To know Lebron can be clutch all i need to see is the 2007 (IIRC)ECF vs the Pistons ...

Doesnt change Last year vs. the Celts or the year before aginst the Celts or the shitty performances this year. YOu are right Lebron is better than this in the clutch ...but im getting tired of waiting for it.

That LeBron is a very clutch basketball player.

It doesnt surprise me you dont like or care for stats really.

[Harlem Preach]

it is a shame what you are doing in this thread. he was CLEARLY fouled in the NY game and the chicago game. that is why he was not clutch. i trust lebron and will be validated one of these days.

[mystargtr34]

Mystar, I can put together a series of statistics that shows Lakers center Andrew Bynum as being the best defensive center in the league. Better than all of the rest, bar none. Does that mean he is? Or that the stats don't accurately account for everything? I'm serious by the way. Since we are simply discussing what fans will believe instead of looking at the arbitrary stats, it's relevant.

This sounds like typical "stats are irrelevant because Kobe has shitty advanced stats :madrun so watch me show an example where stats are false" Lakerfan schtick.

[nevetslc]

http://i.imgur.com/KgfDB.jpg

[Mike D]

crofl that was gold


lol mystar completely ignoring the fact that Mike D jizzed all over his post

I appreciate the support, Nick.


This sounds like typical "stats are irrelevant because Kobe has shitty advanced stats :madrun so watch me show an example where stats are false" Lakerfan schtick.

Mystargtr34- Since you try to dismiss it without legitimate reason, I think reaming your nose into it serves a purpose, it's about showing the fundamental flaw of your argument-- stats are not always indicative of what our eyes tell us is true. You'd think that as a Spurs fan this would be ingrained into you, as the Spurs have had players who have sacrificed boosted stats for a greater goal. Alas, according to what you have justified as the end all, we can also justify Andrew Bynum as the best defensive center in the NBA. Enjoy the cake made from your ingredients.


Blocked Shot Percentage:

# 1 Bogut: 4.9%
# 2 Bynum: 4.7%
# 3 Duncan: 4.1%
# 4 Howard: 3.8%
# 4 Perkins: 3.8%
# 5 Jefferson: 3.4%
# 6 Lopez: 2.7%
# 7 Chandler: 2.6%
# 7 Noah: 2.6%
# 8 Horford: 2%
# 9 Nene: 1.6%

eFG Allowed:

# 1 Bynum: 45.1%
# 2 Bogut: 46.0%
# 3 Howard: 48.2%
# 3 Horford: 48.2%
# 4 Duncan: 48.7%
# 5 Jefferson: 48.9%
# 6 Lopez: 49.3%
# 7 Nene: 49.3%
# 7 Chandler: 50.4%
# 8 Perkins: 50.6%
# 9 Noah: 57.5%

PER48 Allowed:

# 1 Bynum: 10.4
# 2 Bogut: 12.6
# 3 Howard: 13.2
# 4 Duncan: 15.8
# 5 Perkins: 16.6
# 6 Chandler: 17.0
# 7 Horford: 17.1
# 7 Lopez: 17.1
# 8 Jefferson: 17.2
# 9 Nene: 17.6
# 10 Noah: 20.2

Teams +/- Points Allowed When they are on the court: (Lower is better)

# 1 Chandler: -6.1
# 2 Bynum: -4.9
# 2 Duncan: -4.9
# 3 Bogut: -4.3
# 4 Perkins: -3.1
# 5 Horford: -0.6
# 6 Nene: -0.5
# 7 Lopez: +2.7
# 8 Howard: +4.8
# 9 Noah: +6.5
# 10 Jefferson: +10.7


I hope you can see the point here.

[TheMACHINE]

True, but he's gotta know when to kick the bitch outta bed and send her packing with some taxi $$

Wade needs to take lessons from The Situation...throw them grenades out son.

[Pelicans78]

Really this team will go as far as Wade takes them. Basically similar to the Garnett/Pierce situation. Garnett was brought to Boston to make them into a title contender, yet it was Pierce who hit the big shots. Same thing in Miami. Lebron was brought in to bring the Heat to title contention, but Wade is gonna be the guy who has to get the Finals MVP. Lebron's game just isn't good enough to score in the 4th quarter. Down the stretch, they need to go to Wade. He's proven to be a closer while Lebron hasn't and probably never will since his arsenal is limited to driving to the basket.

[Killakobe81]

That LeBron is a very clutch basketball player.

It doesnt surprise me you dont like or care for stats really.

Why because I realize that they can be manipulated? Even at the Dorkapalooza MIT advanced stats conference they admitted that is you look hard enough at stats you can always find what you seek.

I am not saying Lebron is not clutch ... but I dont care if the stats say otherwise I would not put him up there with the great clutch shot makers in the NBA (including Kobe) but not exclusive to him either. I would rather have Manu, Ray and Wade as well. If you say .. do i want someone to drive and dish then I would take Lebron. I agree clutch doesnt always have to be the shot but the guys we considered the "kings" of clutch typically make those shots. even magic who was PG made some huge ones.

The reason i have issues with clutch stats (some) they equate a pass, or a meaning less shot vs. Golden state in the regular season the same as a game winner on the road in the playoffs. And a clutch pass really should be credited more to the coach (for designing the play) and the shooter for making the shot. I would expect the best ball/handler or playmaker on any NBA team to be able to make a pass late in the game ...but that is just me.

[Pero]

http://i.imgur.com/KgfDB.jpg

LMAO, the only one genuine here seems Bosh.
He looks like "yaaayy, I get to play with Bron and Wade". While LeBron looks more like "gulp was this the right decision?" and Wade "kill me now".

[picc84]

Really this team will go as far as Wade takes them. Basically similar to the Garnett/Pierce situation. Garnett was brought to Boston to make them into a title contender, yet it was Pierce who hit the big shots. Same thing in Miami. Lebron was brought in to bring the Heat to title contention, but Wade is gonna be the guy who has to get the Finals MVP. Lebron's game just isn't good enough to score in the 4th quarter. Down the stretch, they need to go to Wade. He's proven to be a closer while Lebron hasn't and probably never will since his arsenal is limited to driving to the basket.

Its not that. Lebron won't let Wade be the guy. Isn't it strange how no matter where Lebron is, no matter who his teammates are, everyone ends up turning into a "witness" who stands behind the arc and watches him beat the shit out of the ball for 24 seconds? And then everyone wonders why the rest of the team didn't do more.

Wade is slowly but surely being turned into Mo Williams. And when/if they get dropped in the playoffs all we'll hear about is how Lebron's teammates let him down again, and he needs more help.