Video of 9/11 attack from NY Police Helicopter...

[Hooks]

Saw some article on yahoo so I'm just gonna post the vid...

Uploaded today:


I haven't watched it all because the shit is 17 mins and taking forever to load.

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[TE]

saw this today. Not much different than all the other 9/11 first hand account vids I seen before.


Good stuff though.

[mouse]

I don't need any videos to know what took place on 9/11 everything was clearly explained to me with this.....


http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/9-11-commission-rpt.png

[Wild Cobra]

What a shitty video to waste our time with.

Mouse... You're an idiot!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yeah this vid wasn't really anything to wait almost 10 years for. Just a different angle. Lotsssssss of edits though. Does that mean anything? Who knows.

[mouse]

Mouse... You're an idiot!

I have found name calling is good way to judge someone's character or lack of. You must feel so proud and intelligent when you hit the submit reply icon.

[mouse]

on a side note: that video has been around the torrent sites for awhile. It was not new footage. Anyone here who has BTjunkie 911 and 9/11 has over 30 GBs of footage and photos, many videos are not in English. I thought this was going to be some sort of never seen before footage but i guess as far as the public is concerned it must be.

[Cry Havoc]

on a side note: that video has been around the torrent sites for awhile. It was not new footage. Anyone here who has BTjunkie 911 and 9/11 has over 30 GBs of footage and photos, many videos are not in English. I thought this was going to be some sort of never seen before footage but i guess as far as the public is concerned it must be.

Is the video in the torrent edited?

[mouse]

Not sure I have 3 different versions of a chopper flying directly over the towers and i remember two were in a different language one was in English. The film was bundled with other rare WTC footage taken by people who didn't have to comply with American laws.

They have films of bodies bouncing off the pavement and you can see close ups of people begging to be rescued off the damaged floors. Unlike the videos we see on the History channel or Fox news.

Anyone who is a major torrent freak and loves rare footage probably has the same videos. I never thought it was so special until now.

here is a non working torrent that must have been puled from the site.

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/wtc-footage/4358ee2449392b0d3401b077fccb53df267fdf222d3d

[Stringer_Bell]

Strange. I've never questioned that official 9/11 story, and I was very shocked anyone would accuse the government of being complicit with the actions of Islamofacists when I read a french magazine less than a week after the attack (really disgusting accusations), but something just doesn't seem right about that footage. The towers just look too tall and sturdy to have come down from those fires. I can understand them toppling over to the sides because of the impact, but they came down like perfect flapjacks. That's some kind of miracle! (except people died, so its a bad miracle). :(

Never forget, they want to kill us and take our jobs!

Edit: That last comment was directed toward the threat of terrorists, not the government.

[mouse]

In order to go back 4 years I would have to retrieve a HD from storage and then pay my photobucket account to host the footage, but if you go to the 0:53 mark on this video you can see one of the choppers where I received some of my footage.

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[xellos88330]

Every time I see those videos, my blood boils.

I was in the military at the time. The speed at which the military can mobilize is incredible. When the first plane hit, we all couldn't believe it. Second one hit and we immediately started reconfiguring the aircraft fleet while some went to get our mobility bags. Were set to ship out within at least 20 minutes. Unfortunately we had to wait quite some time before we figured out where we were going.

[mouse]

There once was a time (2004) where your post would have been called Anti American.

[polandprzem]

I never was paying much attention what happened 9/11 as far as who did it and why?

But lately I've seen one 'documentary' movie /video/ and some footage and it got my interest to the point that I know it was no frickin terrorist attack.

So many unanswered questions taht simply could be answered. Or Bush saying that he saw first plane hit the tower on tv at the time. [like any tv had set their cameras on WTC all the time/
Or how come this towers went down. It was close to impossible. And melted steal after those towers went down. Melted from just a jet fuel? come on.


Also on the news like 20 minutes after the plane hit the tower there were already specialist who claimed that it was terrorist attack and that Bin Laden trained blah blah blah

All in all it took me about 2 days with all that, not intense to know the shit.

[redzero]

I never was paying much attention what happened 9/11 as far as who did it and why?

But lately I've seen one 'documentary' movie /video/ and some footage and it got my interest to the point that I know it was no frickin terrorist attack.

So many unanswered questions taht simply could be answered. Or Bush saying that he saw first plane hit the tower on tv at the time. [like any tv had set their cameras on WTC all the time/
Or how come this towers went down. It was close to impossible. And melted steal after those towers went down. Melted from just a jet fuel? come on.


Also on the news like 20 minutes after the plane hit the tower there were already specialist who claimed that it was terrorist attack and that Bin Laden trained blah blah blah

All in all it took me about 2 days with all that, not intense to know the shit.

Are people capable of conveying a complete, coherent thought in Poland?

[polandprzem]

BUt maybe you've got more info on the matter.

I do not know

[polandprzem]

Are people capable of conveying a complete, coherent thought in Poland?

This is me throwing just random thoughts.

I do not care about long posts.

Thanks for interest.


What's for dinner?

I need to drink water.


GTFO

[Cry Havoc]

So many unanswered questions taht simply could be answered. Or Bush saying that he saw first plane hit the tower on tv at the time. [like any tv had set their cameras on WTC all the time/
Or how come this towers went down. It was close to impossible. And melted steal after those towers went down. Melted from just a jet fuel? come on.

This has been discussed ad nauseam in basically every major forum on the internet who pays attention to such things. Every conspiracy theory about how the towers fell, why they fell, and if they should have fallen has been completely debunked.

It wasn't just the jet fuel. Do you realize how much force is behind 60+ TONS of metal and steel (63,000 kilos) moving at 300+ mph? It's not like they took jet fuel, sprayed it around inside with a hose and then lit it on fire. They flew a massive plane into the building. It wasn't just a fire. It was a huge collision, huge explosion, and then the subsequent fires of 1000 degrees+ that brought the buildings down.

[polandprzem]

This has been discussed ad nauseam in basically every major forum on the internet who pays attention to such things. Every conspiracy theory about how the towers fell, why they fell, and if they should have fallen has been completely debunked.

It wasn't just the jet fuel. Do you realize how much force is behind 60+ TONS of metal and steel (63,000 kilos) moving at 300+ mph? It's not like they took jet fuel, sprayed it around inside with a hose and then lit it on fire. They flew a massive plane into the building. It wasn't just a fire. It was a huge collision, huge explosion, and then the subsequent fires of 1000 degrees+ that brought the buildings down.

So the fire made the towers go down like that?

what about this third building?

[Cry Havoc]

So the fire made the towers go down like that?

Yes. The collision combined with the explosion and the subsequent fires weakened the internal support structure of the building. The central supports failed, and the building fell in on itself.


what about this third building?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg/414px-Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg

That's WTC 7 after the two towers fell nearby. That damage combined with the fires inside weakened the support structure enough to bring it down.

[Stringer_Bell]

So the fire made the towers go down like that?

what about this third building?

It was headquarters for some government agency, maybe disaster response? I forget, but the really, really hot embers landed on the building and caused it to get really, really hot itself, then it came down like a pancake, just like the other two buildings. The local officials deemed it to damaged to be used anymore so they "pulled" everyone from the building to limit further casualties. :(

[mouse]

Also on the news like 20 minutes after the plane hit the tower there were already specialist who claimed that it was terrorist attack and that Bin Laden trained blah blah blah
All in all it took me about 2 days with all that, not intense to know the shit.

Also add to the mix that a BBC reporter was already talking about a collapsed building that had yet to collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/results?hl=en&q=BBC+reporter+was+already+talking+about+a+collaps ed+building+that+had+yet+to+collapse.&bav=on.2,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=w1
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[mouse]

All these discovery channel responses is proof many people today still don't have a free will to think on their own.

[mouse]

What many of these talking heads don't mention is that the buildings in NY were "steel framed" buildings that have (never) collapse due to heat. And even if that day was the magical day that Newtons laws of physics was to be re-written a "collapsed" building does not turn into dust and leave traces of explosive materials.

[polandprzem]

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[ChumpDumper]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg/414px-Fiterman_hall_damage.jpg

That's WTC 7 after the two towers fell nearby. That damage combined with the fires inside weakened the support structure enough to bring it down.That's actually a building to the north of WTC7 damaged by the debris from building 7's collapse. It is useful in showing building 7 did not "fall in its own footprint" as many conspiracy nontheorists contend.

Poland, since you have seen some of the contentions of the conspiracy nontheorist (I have yet to see an actual comprehensive theory from any of them), you should probably take a look at the other side of the argument as well. You may find it interesting.

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

[ChumpDumper]

It was headquarters for some government agency, maybe disaster response? I forget, but the really, really hot embers landed on the building and caused it to get really, really hot itself, then it came down like a pancake, just like the other two buildings. The local officials deemed it to damaged to be used anymore so they "pulled" everyone from the building to limit further casualties. :(Huge chunks that fell off of the north twin tower and ripped through WTC7, starting fires on multiple floors.

[polandprzem]

That's actually a building to the north of WTC7 damaged by the debris from building 7's collapse. It is useful in showing building 7 did not "fall in its own footprint" as many conspiracy nontheorists contend.

Poland, since you have seen some of the contentions of the conspiracy nontheorist (I have yet to see an actual comprehensive theory from any of them), you should probably take a look at the other side of the argument as well. You may find it interesting.

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

Damn I have so many things on my head now that I think I will pass on that one esp. when I do not like to read at all.

Might check something though

[ChumpDumper]

Damn I have so many things on my head now that I think I will pass on that one esp. when I do not like to read at all.

Might check something thoughNo problem. If you do choose to read further, I think you'll find that the conspiracy crowd is made up of folks who lie as much if not more than any politician you can think of.

Now I expect mouse to carpet bomb the thread with YouTubes full of spooky synth music declare victory for whatever he won't say he thinks really happened on 9/11.

[mouse]

Since Chump has already demonstrated his patent way of taking the wheel a topic, for you new comers any voice you have that disagrees with his warped logic be ready to be called a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut.


People like him Blake and Wildcobra don't use a portion of the brain that allows new and unexplained scenarios to be digested properly. It's like trying to get Ann Culter to wear a turtleneck, she's convinced her apple doesn't show and all the photos and videos will be ignored.

[ChumpDumper]

The only problem is that they have all been explained. When they are explained in a thread here, the explanation is ignored, the explainer is insulted and another YouTube is posted.

[mouse]

Things are only "explained" when "you" post them. Any 'other' post that doesn't conform to your simpleminded logic has no merit.

[ChumpDumper]

Things are only "explained" when "you" post them. Any 'other' post that doesn't conform to your simpleminded logic has no merit.In that those who try to push the conspiracy angle actually have no explanation as to what actually happened on 9/11, yes.

Your failure to explain what you think really happened on 9/11 makes your posts merit-less.

[mouse]

So only those who know everything on every subject and has proof is allowed to address that subject?

[Creation88]

nice to be reminded Mouse is still a dumbass.

look i dont like Bush and i'm all for conspiracy theories but there's no way in hell a "secret" like that stays under wraps. you guys are reaching for straws.

[mouse]

If you were more active around here you wouldn't need the reminders.

[ChumpDumper]

So only those who know everything on every subject and has proof is allowed to address that subject?No one is persecuting you, mouse. I'm just calling your ranting tired and stupid. If you haven't come up with a theory after a decade, this must just not be that important to you.

[Slydragon]

I can't believe I read every post in this topic, I must be board.

[mouse]

No one is persecuting you, mouse. I'm just calling your ranting tired and stupid. If you haven't come up with a theory after a decade, this must just not be that important to you.


So according to you I am all about rants and your all about proof and logic.

same shit different package dude. You can spin your words around like a scrabble game all you want at the end of the day your bottom-line is
"your right and "everyone else" is wrong always has been your motto always will be.

As far as ranting goes I am not alone, for months Paul Allen ranted for Bill Gates to acquire basic before going to see IBM, why not get on his ass also?

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/bill-gates-paul-allen-photo.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

So according to you I am all about rants and your all about proof and logic.

same shit different package dude. You can spin your words around like a scrabble game all you want at the end of the day your bottom-line is
"your right and "everyone else" is wrong always has been your motto always will be.

As far as ranting goes I am not alone, for months Paul Allen ranted for Bill Gates to acquire basic before going to see IBM, why not get on his ass also?What did Paul Allen say really happened on 9/11?

[mouse]

I couldn't tell what he was really saying with all the ranting he did.

[ChumpDumper]

I couldn't tell what he was really saying with all the ranting he did.Now you know what we have to deal with.

[mouse]

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

(now you know what 'we' have to deal with)

[ChumpDumper]

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

(now you know what 'we' have to deal with)I think things happened basically as has been accepted for the last decade by people who actually investigated the incident. A bunch of Islamic terrorists hijacked several planes and crashed them into several landmarks when they were successful. The twin towers were destroyed due to the damage from the impact and the resulting fires. WTC7 was destroyed due to fires started when debris from WTC1 impacted it. Neither the US government nor agents of the US government were involved in the planning or execution of 9/11. There were no pods or missiles or directed energy weapons involved.

That's it in a nutshell.

Since I told you what I think really happened on 9/11, now you can tell us all what you think really happened on 9/11.

[mouse]

The evidence proves of the late night maintenance going on weeks prior to the WTC attacks, occupants and maintenance men testified of power outages that were purposely done, and floors were late night drilling was done these floors were closed off to the occupants of the building. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the building.

Take that info and add to the fact that Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother was in charge of security at the WTC and you have a clear case of False Flag like pearl Harbor. Anyone with Google or 6th grade reading education can see the facts staring at them in the face. Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.

[ChumpDumper]

The evidence proves of the late night maintenance going on weeks prior to the WTC attacks, occupants and maintenance men testified of power outages that were purposely done, and floors were late night drilling was done these floors were closed off to the occupants of the building. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the buildingSince at least one bomb sniffing dog was killed in the collapse on 9/11, your story is bullshit.

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_bomb_sniffing_dogs.html


Take that info and add to the fact that Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother was in charge of security at the WTC and you have a clear case of False Flag like pearl Harbor. Anyone with Google or 6th grade reading education can see the facts staring at them in the face. Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.I googled Marvin Bush.

Turns out he was never in charge of security at the twin towers; that's the job of the Port Authority. Bush's company did some electronic work that ended in 1998 and Bush left the company in June 2000 before W was even nominated by the Republican party.

http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html

After ten years this is all you can could up with?

[mouse]

Since at least one bomb sniffing dog was killed in the collapse on 9/11, your story is bullshit.


So according to you if they find a dead raccoon then Daniel Boone must have been there also?

Dude your really reaching when you pull out the dead dog card.


Bomb Sniffing Dogs Removed From WTC Days Before Attack

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2004/062804ignoredclue.htm

[mouse]

I googled Marvin Bush.

Turns out he was never in charge of security at the twin towers

9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush


http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html


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[mouse]

After ten years this is all you can could up with?

How about some new evidence of explosives found in the debris?

Explosive Evidence at WTC Cited by Former CDI Employee
http://www.ae911truth.org/news/.../315-explosive-evidence-at-wtc-cited-by-former-cdi-employee.html

[Blake]

When they are explained in a thread here, the explanation is ignored, the explainer is insulted and another YouTube is posted.

right on cue


Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.


[/youtube]

bravo. clap clap.

[mouse]

right on cue

bravo. clap clap.


A promising film Director can't ask for anything better!


http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183401_127440697327658_100001851864376_192152_4639 724_n.jpg

[mouse]

cue in scene #2

(Blake enters topic) : Doesn't add anything worth reading, says his outdated insults then waits.

end of scene #2

(camera pans away fade to black)

[mouse]

20 minute break! (shouts the director)

Chump puts another pop tart in the toaster grabs his sticky remote turns his television to Larry King.

Camera zooms out to show his rusty trailer he lives in.

(cue in banjo music)

[Blake]

cue in scene #2

(Blake enters topic) : Doesn't add anything worth reading, says his outdated insults then waits.


yet you read what I posted and ran with the cinematic theme of it.

I'll wait for the next outdated youtube.

:corn:

[johnsmith]

Funny thing about Mouse. His career has done basically nothing. He's accomplished very, very little in his life. So all he had left was a little bit of respect on this website. Having said that, the folks that thought mouses 'schtick' was funny have basically came and went and this site is now populated by many new users that just don't consider Mouse funny........at all.

SO what does he have left? How can he possibly figure out a way to communicate with other humans? Certainly, people in real life give him no respect, so that's out. He can't come on the internet and muster up the courage to have a reasonable conversation with someone.......so what does he have? Wait, I know, he has 9/11 conspiracy theories.

He knows that if he posts a youtube and then argues the youtube (poorly), that he will get a response from both Blake and Chump. Unfortunately for Blake and Chump, they feel like they should point out how stupid Mouse is in fear of dumbshits all over this site will watch the youtubes with the scary music and somehow come to the same conclusion that Mouse (maybe) has come to as well. So it's almost like they are force obligated to communicate with this clown, and that somehow completes this failed stand up comedians online persona.

In short, mouse, your time here on the internet is about done, and from what I know about your personal life, your time there has been done for a long time.

But carry on with your youtubes, we know, it's all you got.:(

[mouse]

Screen goes dark: final scene

Blake's illegitimate son johnsmith chimes in puts foot in mouth

(roll credits)

fade to black

[ChumpDumper]

lol youtubes on cue

Sorry mouse, your claims got debunked rather severely -- and no, I didn'r watch them. Didn't have to. It's all been done before several times over. You know that.

I know you don't follow the links I post, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

[mouse]

Your are late with your "debunk" card!
try and stay on Cue Chump!

please people! can we have some organization on the set?

(camera pans away from topic)

[ChumpDumper]

Your are late with your "debunk" card!
try and stay on Cue Chump!

please people! can we have some organization on the set?

(camera pans away from topic)Your claim was predebunked.

Had you read the links you would have known that.

You're just blindly flailing around now. Sad.