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Amarelooms
03-09-2011, 11:12 PM
Honestly they'll probably lose a bunch more games regardless...4th seed is best. If able to get out 1st round you avoid the Lakers in 2nd round and play the Spurs.

Also, memo to Carslie....PLAY RODDY YOU IDIOT AND KEEL CARDINAL ON THE BENCH

:elephant
DPG21920
03-09-2011, 11:49 PM
Mavs couldn't beat the Spurs last year with HCA and now they are worse while the Spurs are better and you want that?

I mean, I guess it's better than LA, but still does not look good.

If anything, they need to keep up their decidedly average differentials and eek out some more wins and keep HCA over LA. It's their only hope to win a series in the 2nd round imo.
4>0rings
03-09-2011, 11:51 PM
Mavs vs Lakers = greatest matchup of 2011
stretch
03-09-2011, 11:59 PM
The Mavs are not worse, DPG. You're a moron.
Booharv
03-10-2011, 12:01 AM
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Booharv
03-10-2011, 12:02 AM
That troll will never get approved imho
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:03 AM
The Mavs are not worse, DPG. You're a moron.

Without Caron, yes, they are. Again, the Mavs only broke 90 points in 2 of the 6 games vs the Spurs and they have now lost their 2nd best offensive player.

When I say worse, I should have clarified that I meant offensively. They are about the same as last year with the addition of Chandler (and the subtraction of Butler).
Ghazi
03-10-2011, 12:04 AM
Mavs have a better point differential, offensive efficiency, and record this year... yet somehow theyre worse :lol
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:11 AM
Dallas has the worst point differential out of the top 6 contenders. They are closer to the 17th ranked team than the first (Spurs).

Dallas is 15th in the league in rebounding differential.

Dallas is behind SA/LA/MIA in OFF EFF & behind CHI/BOS/MIA/LA/ORL in DEF EFF.

Dallas's metrics are not conducive to a championship caliber team.
Ghazi
03-10-2011, 12:13 AM
Dallas has the worst point differential out of the top 6 contenders. They are closer to the 17th ranked team than the first (Spurs).

Dallas is 15th in the league in rebounding differential.

Dallas is behind SA/LA/MIA in OFF EFF & behind CHI/BOS/MIA/LA/ORL in DEF EFF.

Dallas's metrics are not conducive to a championship caliber team.

they're still better than last year..
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:17 AM
Not without Caron they aren't.
Ghazi
03-10-2011, 12:18 AM
based on the same metrics you posted, yes they are..
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:18 AM
That is not a knock on the Mavs. They are a great team, even without Caron. But they are at best a wash all around, especially when it comes to playoff basketball.

BOOK IT.
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:18 AM
based on the same metrics you posted, yes they are..

No. They Aren't.
John Basedow
03-10-2011, 12:21 AM
If the last 3 matchups are any indication, then the team w/o HCA should be favored in that series :lol
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:22 AM
They are marginally better offensively right now for the total year (107.9 compared to 107.1) and the same goes for defensively (103.2 compared to 102.9).

So don't play it off by arguing semantics.
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:23 AM
If the last 3 matchups are any indication, then the team w/o HCA should be favored in that series :lol

Spurs are clearly the favorites. Not saying it is easy, the series never are, but the Spurs are clearly the favorites and I would be shocked if the Mavs won.

It would take an all World performance from Dirk. Which they had last year and still lost with HCA.
Blake
03-10-2011, 12:24 AM
Honestly they'll probably lose a bunch more games regardless...4th seed is best. If able to get out 1st round you avoid the Lakers in 2nd round and play the Spurs.

Also, memo to Carslie....PLAY RODDY YOU IDIOT AND KEEL CARDINAL ON THE BENCH

:elephant

So you'd rather the mavs play the lakers without home court in the wcf.

You're stupid.
Zelophehad
03-10-2011, 12:24 AM
The Mavs point differential is skewed because they sucked elephant dick when Dirk was injured.
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:28 AM
The Mavs point differential was not that great and hasn't been for a few years. Hence a lot of first round exits.
HarlemHo 37
03-10-2011, 12:31 AM
Spurs are clearly the favorites. Not saying it is easy, the series never are, but the Spurs are clearly the favorites and I would be shocked if the Mavs won.

It would take an all World performance from Dirk. Which they had last year and still lost with HCA.

With the way the Spurs play defense, the Mavs don't need worldly performances from anyone.
sribb43
03-10-2011, 12:33 AM
Mavs vs Lakers = greatest matchup of 2011

Mavs won't make it that far
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 12:37 AM
With the way the Spurs play defense, the Mavs don't need worldly performances from anyone.

:lol So explain last year? Explain why the Spurs defense is better than the Mavs as well.
crc21209
03-10-2011, 12:55 AM
No way the Mavs fall below the Thunder. They'll finish 2nd or 3rd....
HarlemHo 37
03-10-2011, 01:02 AM
:lol So explain last year? Explain why the Spurs defense is better than the Mavs as well.

Explain what? Dallas isn't the same team as last year. Chandler is going to be the difference maker on defense.
The Mavs weren't terrible last year, which is part of the reason why they finished with the second-best record in the Western Conference. But they had too many lapses late in the season to be able to survive the inevitable tough shooting nights that came along. They were 15th, dead smack in the middle of the league, allowing 45.7 percent shooting to opponents. OK, but not great.

Um, I never said the Spurs defense is better than the Mavs. They aren't. Carlisle has been experimenting with Roddy in the starting lineup which is probably a mistake. When the Mavs are completely healthy and with Chandler anchoring the paint, the Mavs' defense is at a decade-high currently, holding their opponents to 43.1% shooting. Obviously, depth is a problem and the offense becomes complacent with big leads. But a full strength Mavs team with Butler and co. could take the Spurs.
clambake
03-10-2011, 01:06 AM
it's kind of nice not being saddled with expectations.
DJ Mbenga
03-10-2011, 01:13 AM
they won 18 out of 19 or something. they were due for a loss
buttsR4rebounding
03-10-2011, 02:16 AM
So you'd rather the mavs play the lakers without home court in the wcf.

You're stupid.

Exactly what I was thinking. If your objective is to win the championship you'll have to beat them anyway so it doesn't matter. I would say he has his head up his ass, but this is so stupid it is more like he has his head up my ass and I'm about to wipe...:idiot
Stamm32089
03-10-2011, 06:53 AM
Mavs couldn't beat the Spurs last year with HCA and now they are worse while the Spurs are better and you want that?

I mean, I guess it's better than LA, but still does not look good.

If anything, they need to keep up their decidedly average differentials and eek out some more wins and keep HCA over LA. It's their only hope to win a series in the 2nd round imo.

If you honestly believe that the Mavs are worse than they were last year, then you seriously need to re-evaluate your basketball knowledge.
DPG21920
03-10-2011, 09:50 AM
Without Caron, yes, they are. Again, the Mavs only broke 90 points in 2 of the 6 games vs the Spurs and they have now lost their 2nd best offensive player.

When I say worse, I should have clarified that I meant offensively. They are about the same as last year with the addition of Chandler (and the subtraction of Butler).


If you honestly believe that the Mavs are worse than they were last year, then you seriously need to re-evaluate your basketball knowledge.