"Palestinians" take the moral high ground...

[Yonivore]

...in their dispute with Israel.

Jewish couple and three children killed in West Bank (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-palestinians-israel-violence-idUSTRE72B0B920110312)

This prompts joyous celebration among "Palestinians."


Gaza residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.

Youtube pulls the video of the massacre but, if you want to see what barbarians are these "Palestinians," the video can be viewed here...

http://www.myisrael.org.il/action/739 (http://www.myisrael.org.il/action/739)

These are Israel's "Peace Partners." Fucking barbarians.

[ChumpDumper]

Why does this matter to the US?

[ChumpDumper]

lol yoni really does think it's his Israel.

[boutons_deux]

Yoni's a racist

[Oh, Gee!!]

"Palestinians" take the moral high ground... therefore U.S. Democrats are evil

[boutons_deux]

Yoni's hates all Muslims

[Yonivore]

"Palestinians" take the moral high ground... therefore U.S. Democrats are evil
Just those that defend the evil "Palestinians." Evil or stupid.

[Halberto]

Choosing any side is stupid. Thats like choosing the bloods over the crypts.

[RandomGuy]

Just those that defend the evil "Palestinians." Evil or stupid.

Are there Palestinians that aren't evil?

You seem to imply they all are.

[RandomGuy]

...in their dispute with Israel.

Jewish couple and three children killed in West Bank (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-palestinians-israel-violence-idUSTRE72B0B920110312)

This prompts joyous celebration among "Palestinians."



Youtube pulls the video of the massacre but, if you want to see what barbarians are these "Palestinians," the video can be viewed here...

http://www.myisrael.org.il/action/739 (http://www.myisrael.org.il/action/739)

These are Israel's "Peace Partners." Fucking barbarians.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041106,00.html

Pulled from the same article:


Meanwhile, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said he "clearly and firmly denounces the terror attack, just as I have denounced crimes against Palestinians.

"We are against all types of violence," Fayyad said during a tour in Bethlehem. "Our position has not changed. As we have said many times before, we categorically oppose violence and terror, regardless of the identity of the victims or the perpetrators."


Ron Nachman, mayor of the city of Ariel, arrived in Itamar Saturday noon and expressed anger over the government and defense minister's conduct.

"We need to find those behind the attack and give them the death penalty. I can't recall such a horrific terror attack," he said.

Nachman refused to comment on future "price tag" operations of radical rightist, saying: "I am not responsible for violent acts from either side."

Will you be similarly outraged if settlers take the law into their hands and slaughter a Palestinian or two?

There are two ways to lie, and you did at least one of them here.

Why did you leave out the part where responsible Palestinians denounced the violence?

[Cry Havoc]

Why did you leave out the part where responsible Palestinians denounced the violence?

Because they don't exist in his world view, as you suggested in another thread, RG. :tu

[hater]

wow generalizing an entire country for the acts of a few dumbasses

very original

[LnGrrrR]

I think America must be a bunch of savages, because Ann Coulter is an American, and so obviously what she says must be what every American thinks.

[Marcus Bryant]

Horrible.

Now with respect to American governance, so what? There is a ton of horrible shit that happens in this world every day, including some in our own country.

Americans shouldn't have to give a damn about what happens in those settlements, or Israeli national security, for that matter.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Just those that defend the evil "Palestinians." Evil or stupid.

if someone defends acts of terrorism or violence, then I'd agree that that person is stupid. if "defending" them means arguing that Palestinians have some valid claim against Israel, then I don't agree with you. People can take sides without supporting the bloodshed that both sides are guilty of creating.

[Marcus Bryant]

That is, wtf is this thread? A call to arms?

[Yonivore]

Will you be similarly outraged if settlers take the law into their hands and slaughter a Palestinian or two?
I would be surprised. I would be surprised if an Israeli broke into the home of a Palestinian and viciously murdered an innocent man, his wife, and three of their children. I would be surprised if other Israelis then danced in the street and passed out candy. Further, I would be surprised if the Israeli government was supportive of the murder. Finally, I would be surprised if the Israeli government didn't bring the murderer to justice.


There are two ways to lie, and you did at least one of them here.

Why did you leave out the part where responsible Palestinians denounced the violence?
Elections have consequences and the "Palestinians" elected a terrorist organization to run their government. Terrorists lie.

From the English language portion of Hamas website (http://www.qassam.ps/news-4276-Hamas_denies_responsibility_for_Itamar_incident.ht ml):


Al Qassam website - Palestinian National Movement Hamas official Ezzat Al-Rashak said that the movement is not responsible for the murder of the five family members from the Itamar settlement.

Al-Rashak confirmed that harming children is not part of Hamas' policy, nor is it the policy of the resistance factions.

He also confirmed that the possibility that the incident was carried out by settlers for criminal motives should not be ruled out.

That was for you RandomGuy...and, you ate it up.

Now, what did they say in Arabic (http://www.alqassam.ps/arabic/news1.php?id=20939)?

A professional Arabic translator who also operates a blog called Translating Jihad (http://translating-jihad.blogspot.com/) translates the article from the Arabic language Hamas website as follows:


Five Zionists Killed in Stabbing in the Usurper (Settlement) of Itamar

al-Qassam, 12 March 2011

Five Zionist usurpers were killed the morning of Saturday, 12 March 2011, in a knife-stabbing carried out by a Palestinian in the usurper (settlement) of Itamar east of the city of Nablus.

Our correspondent in Nablus reported that a Palestinian mujahid was able to break into the usurper (settlement) of "Itamar" south of Nablus in the occupied (West) Bank, and stabbed five Zionist usurpers.
There's more and the comments -- also translated -- seem to confirm that Hamas and candy-eating "Palestinians" are perfectly okay with accepting responsibility in a language few of their useful idiots in the U.S. understand.

Yasser Arafat was famous for this tactic. Few "Palestinians" speak English and even fewer "Palestinian" sympathizers (such as you) speak Arabic or, if you do, bother to see what they're saying to their people in their language.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm not quite sure how unbiased a person who runs a site called "Translating Jihad" is.

[LnGrrrR]

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2011/02/27/translating-jihad%E2%80%99s-completely-fraudulent-translations/

[LnGrrrR]

http://spencerwatch.com/2011/02/23/epic-arabic-101-fail-%E2%80%9Ctranslating-jihad%E2%80%9D-arabic-translator-cant-translate-the-word-%E2%80%9Ctranslator%E2%80%9D/

[Yonivore]

I'm not quite sure how unbiased a person who runs a site called "Translating Jihad" is.
I don't know, have you translated the article?

[Yonivore]

I just plugged the Arabic into Google's online translator. Let's read it together, shall we?


(Pictures) killed five Zionists in the process of appeal Bmgtsbp ​​Itamar

2011-03-12

Qassam particular:

Five rapists Zionists blew up on Saturday 12/3/2011, in the process of stabbing was carried out by a Palestinian usurped Itamar east of the city of Nablus.

According to our correspondent in the city of Nablus, said a Palestinian Mujahid was able to break into the usurped "Itamar" occupied West Bank south of Nablus, and stabbed five rapists Zionists.

The Zionist media "that the Palestinians stormed the usurped between the hours of 21:30-23:00, rapists and killed 5 members of one family as they slept," saying that the bomber managed to escape.

And proceeded to place a large force of the Zionist army and police, including Chief of Staff of the army, "Benny Gantz," and the leader of the center area, "Avi Mizrahi."

The president of the Council also raped, "Danny Dayan" to the usurped "Itamar" and said: "This attack is one of the most serious assaults committed over the past few years."

Nablus and closed set of barriers

Eyewitnesses said to our correspondent that the aircraft Zionism and a large force of army and police and ambulances rushed to the scene and transported the wounded and dead, with the occupation forces deployed in the vicinity of the village of Awarta and fired dozens of flares.

Witnesses said that a large force of occupation, cordoned off the towns and villages and Nablus, and began the work of the sweep and raid in the area for effective.

It is noteworthy that a similar process took place in June 2002, have killed 5 rapists after they were shot in the usurped "Itamar" itself.

Has been able to al-Qassam Brigades in the month of August last year of the implementation of a series of operations launched by the "Seal of Fire", which he succeeded Mujahideen Qassam killed four Zionists, and confounded by these operations the intelligence and military Mlisha Abbas in the occupied West Bank, which has worked its best to detect perpetrators of the attacks.

The place has been implemented is the appeals process Bmgtsbp ​​"Itamar"

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[Yonivore]

Looks like Google got it about as close as did Translating Jihad. Maybe your sources are the biased ones.

[Yonivore]

(بالصور) مقتل خمسة صهاينة في عملية طعن بمغتصبة ايتامار

2011-03-12

القسام ـ خاص :

قتل خمسة مغتصبين صهاينة فجر اليوم السبت 12-3-2011، في عملية طعن بالسكين نفذها فلسطيني لمغتصبة ايتمار شرق مدينة نابلس.

وأفاد مراسلنا في مدينة نابلس أن مجاهد فلسطيني تمكن من اقتحام مغتصبة "اتامار" جنوب نابلس بالضفة المحتلة ، وقام بطعن خمسة مغتصبين صهاينة .

وقالت وسائل الاعلام الصهيونية"إن فلسطينيا اقتحم المغتصبة بين الساعات 21:30-23:00، وقتل 5 مغتصبين من عائلة واحدة وهم نيام" مؤكدةً أن منفذ العملية تمكن من الفرار.

ووصلت إلى المكان قوات كبيرة من الجيش الصهيوني والشرطة، بينهم رئيس هيئة أركان الجيش "بيني غينتس"، وقائد منطقة المركز "آفي مزراحي".

كما وصل رئيس مجلس المغتصبات "داني ديان" إلى مغتصبة "ايتمار"، وقال: "إن هذا الاعتداء هو من اخطر الاعتداءات التي ارتكبت خلال السنوات القليلة الماضية".

إغلاق نابلس ونصب الحواجز

وذكر شهود عيان لمراسلنا ان طائرات صهيونية وقوات كبيرة من الجيش والشرطة وسيارات إسعاف هرعت الى المكان ونقلت الجرحى والقتلى، فيما انتشرت قوات الاحتلال في محيط قرية عورتا واطلق عشرات من القنابل المضيئة .

وأضاف الشهود أن قوات كبيرة من الاحتلال طوقت مدن وقرى ونابلس وشرعت بأعمال تمشيط ودهم في المنطقة بحثاً عن الفعالين .

يذكر أن عملية مماثلة حصلت في حزيران/ يونيو 2002، أدت إلى مقتل 5 مغتصبين بعد إطلاق النار عليهم في مغتصبة "إيتمار" نفسها.

وقد تمكنت كتائب القسام في شهر أغسطس من العام الماضي من تنفيذ سلسلة عمليات أطلقت عليها "سيل النار" والتي تمكن خلالها مجاهدو القسام من قتل أربعة صهاينة ، واربكت من خلال هذه العمليات أجهزة الاستخبارات العسكرية ومليشا عباس في الضفة المحتلة ، التي عملت بكل جهدها للكشف عن منفذي العملية .

المكان الذي نفذت فيه عملية الطعن بمغتصبة "اتامار"


That's what I plugged into Google...got it at the link (http://www.alqassam.ps/arabic/news1.php?id=20939).

[LnGrrrR]

Fair enough Yoni. It certainly looks like they are celebrating the deaths of these people. Pretty creepy.

Thanks for backing your stuff up. :tu

[Yonivore]

Fair enough Yoni. It certainly looks like they are celebrating the deaths of these people. Pretty creepy.

Thanks for backing your stuff up. :tu
:toast

[ChumpDumper]

And what does this have to do with the US at all?

[RandomGuy]

Yonivore, I noticed that you dodged both of my questions, and stuck to your talking points, in a valiant attempt to rack up your daily quota of douchebaggery.

I asked:

Will you be similarly outraged if settlers take the law into their hands and slaughter a Palestinian or two?

"I would be surprised" is not an answer. I don't think the settlers would be quite so bloodthristy as to slaughter a family like this though.

I can only assume by your lack of an answer, the answer is "no", you would not be outraged if settlers slaughtered an innocent Palestinian or two.

Congratulations on stooping to the level of the people you hate, and firmly crossing the line into what most would consider evil. At least you are honest about it, I guess.


I also asked:

Why did you leave out the part where responsible Palestinians denounced the violence?

Your response, also evasive, "they elected terrorists", i.e. Hamas, missed the point that the official speaking was not a member of Hamas.

Bascially, what you dont' want to admit, because you want to show that "all Palestians are bad people, so we shouldnt' care what Israel does to them" is that there actually were expressions of outrage.

You have no proof that the gentleman expressing outrage is lying, so other than implying he were lying, so that would suit your theory.

It suits your theory, therefore it is true.

Since Lngrr pointed out that your "professional" translator not only appears to be really bad at translating, he seems to be actively misleading.

Not a problem for lying sacks of shit like yourself, I'm sure.

So you fall back to the next line of defense for your stupid theory, a badly translated machine bit. I will get to that at some point, but did note that the translation left out the ages of those who died, a pretty important factor. I would wonder if the comments would have run similarly if the ages had been given. (to be clear, I think the ages seem to have been deliberately left out in an attempt to whitewash the truth)

That bit probably escaped your dumb ass, but then, you aren't looking for information that doesn't support your rather xenophobic double-standard.

What you dont' want to admit, is that a pretty solid majority of Palestinians would be suitably shocked at the stabbing of a 3 month old baby. As much as Hamas might be the bloodthristy terrorists you claim they all are, I highly doubt they could maintain a facade of moral legitimacy if that were really condoned.

I have no doubt that there are some who have few moral qualms about it, and whose hatred leads them to cheer this.

What I do doubt, and what you completely fail to prove here, is that "all Palestinians are cheering and think this attack was a great thing".

You did note that some of those comments seemed to condemn the attacks as well, yes?

Or did ignore that, like you do anything that might burst your preconcieved notions?

[RandomGuy]

I have a rather strong suspicion that someone will turn in the perpetrators at some point. I would guess they will be turned in by someone they confided in that is suitably shocked at the rather heinous nature of the slayings.

That part will probably not play to Yonivores narrative, so it will be ignored as well.

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is what i dont get about israelis who come and just bulldozed ppl out of their land if they have land title over it, i thought israel is a democratic society, why dont they just buy the land at market value or compensate? fkn the way they operate is no different to the douches in .......

[Yonivore]

Hanging over the bed of 11-year old Yoav Fogel:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T3a-Ey2HhBI/TYC-TYHq0fI/AAAAAAAAbN4/r09WpO0qtxk/s400/Yoav+Fogel+HYD%2527s+prayer.JPG

Translation:


"May it be Your will, L-rd G-d and G-d of our forefathers, that I love every one of Israel as myself, and to graciously perform the positive commandment of loving your neighbor as yourself.

And may it also be Your will, Lord G-d and G-d of my forefathers, that you cause the hearts of my friends and neighbors to love me fervently, and that I be accepted and desirable to everyone, and that I be loving and pleasant, and that I be gracious and merciful in the eyes of all who see me. As water reflects face to face, so the heart of man to man. And all for the sake of Heaven, to do Your will, Amen."
Fucking barbarians.

[ChumpDumper]

What does this have to do with the US?

[Yonivore]

Compare and contrast...

IDF, settlers save Arab baby (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4043536,00.html)


After massacre, settlers help bring new life into world: IDF forces and local paramedics helped save the life of a Palestinian woman and her newly born infant Wednesday, at the settlement where Fogel relatives are sitting Shiva for the five Israelis brutally murdered last week.

Just as IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz arrived in Neve Tzuf to offer his condolences, a Palestinian cab raced towards the community's entrance. In it, soldiers and paramedics discovered a Palestinian woman in her 20s in advanced stages of labor and facing a life-threatening situation: The umbilical cord was wrapped around the young baby girl's neck, endangering both her and her mother.

The quick action of settler paramedics and IDF troops deployed in the area saved the mother's and baby's life, prompting great excitement and emotions at the site where residents are still mourning the brutal death of five local family members....
I must have missed where the Palestinians have turned over the murderers to Israel authorities. Surely that's happened by now.

[ChumpDumper]

What does this have to do with the US?

[johnsmith]

Not that I'm sticking up for Yoni here.........but what does it matter if it has to do with the US or not?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just trying to see the benefit for the US from its kowtowing to every wish of the Israeli government. yoni wanted to preserve the brutal dictatorship in Egypt for the interests of the US, so what does our support for Israel do for us?

[johnsmith]

I'm just trying to see the benefit for the US from its kowtowing to every wish of the Israeli government. yoni wanted to preserve the brutal dictatorship in Egypt for the interests of the US, so what does our support for Israel do for us?

Fair enough, but I don't think this thread is the one to ask that question.


Having said that, I'm making sure to quote you so that Yoni will read that as I'm pretty sure he's boutonsesque in his bitchmode of putting others on ignore and I think it's a valid question regardless of the thread.

Assuming I'm not ignored by him by now.

[ChumpDumper]

Not yet.

[johnsmith]

I'm working on it Chump.

[Yonivore]

Fair enough, but I don't think this thread is the one to ask that question.


Having said that, I'm making sure to quote you so that Yoni will read that as I'm pretty sure he's boutonsesque in his bitchmode of putting others on ignore and I think it's a valid question regardless of the thread.

Assuming I'm not ignored by him by now.
Considering we've strong-armed Israel into engaging in a meaningless "road map to peace" for several administrations now; and, considering we've legitimized the terrorist regime of the Palestine Authority and made nice with one of the most brutal terrorists (Yassir Arafat) ever, up until the day he died; I'm not sure ChumpDumper's assertion we've kowtowed "to every wish of the Israeli government," is accurate.

But, you're right, this isn't the thread for that discussion and, unless, you're going to continued reposting Chump's drivel -- and, perhaps even if you do -- don't expect me to respond. I'm not interested in engaging him, or his proxy, in a debate.

[ChumpDumper]

What have we refused Israel?

Ever?

And why does yoni like Israel more than the US?

[johnsmith]

But, you're right, this isn't the thread for that discussion and, unless, you're going to continued reposting Chump's drivel -- and, perhaps even if you do -- don't expect me to respond. I'm not interested in engaging him, or his proxy, in a debate.


What have we refused Israel?

Ever?

And why does yoni like Israel more than the US?

[RandomGuy]

But, you're right, this isn't the thread for that discussion and, unless, you're going to continued reposting Chump's drivel -- and, perhaps even if you do -- don't expect me to respond. I'm not interested in engaging him, or his proxy, in a debate.

Translation:

"I got nuthin"

The masked conservative strikes again!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=212&pictureid=1582

"In the early days of the western United States, a masked man dressed as an idiot rode the internets, searching for talking points and flawed emotional arguments. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear, when from out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse Turdbucket! The Lone Conservative rides again!"

[Oh, Gee!!]

Breaking News: Some Palestinians are evil, and Some Israelis are heroic.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Breaking News: All Palestinians are evil, and All Israelis are heroic.

I fixed it for you...

[Oh, Gee!!]

I fixed it for you...

right. yoni proved it by way of two news articles illustrating the stark differences between the two cultures (well, one culture and one pack of wild savages) that always hold true under every imaginable circumstance.

[Kyle Orton]

Fair enough Yoni. It certainly looks like they are celebrating the deaths of these people. Pretty creepy.

Thanks for backing your stuff up. :tu
He shouldn't need to back it up. Part of what has me disgusted about the Democratic party is their love for Palestinian people and blindly defending the acts of terror they commit against Israel.

[George Gervin's Afro]

right. yoni proved it by way of two news articles illustrating the stark differences between the two cultures (well, one culture and one pack of wild savages) that always hold true under every imaginable circumstance.

that's all he needs to be convinced.. don't forget the always trusting blog...!

[George Gervin's Afro]

He shouldn't need to back it up. Part of what has me disgusted about the Democratic party is their love for Palestinian people and blindly defending the acts of terror they commit against Israel.

You won't find many people here on the left that support anything the Palestinians do when it comes to killing innocent people.. what you will find is that many of the left on this board don't blindly assume that Isreal is as pure as the white driven snow either.. Yoni thinks that Isreal can do no wrong and that we should blindly support them no matter what.. is that the proper thing to do?

[clambake]

But, you're right, this isn't the thread for that discussion and, unless, you're going to continued reposting Chump's drivel -- and, perhaps even if you do -- don't expect me to respond. I'm not interested in engaging him, or his proxy, in a debate.

he's on ignore cuz he takes you to the shed.

[clambake]

and you don't like the shed.

[Kyle Orton]

You won't find many people here on the left that support anything the Palestinians do when it comes to killing innocent people.. what you will find is that many of the left on this board don't blindly assume that Isreal is as pure as the white driven snow either.. Yoni thinks that Isreal can do no wrong and that we should blindly support them no matter what.. is that the proper thing to do?
Yes it is. Israel has never done anything other than defend its land. The towel heads in the region are always the aggressors.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yes it is. Israel has never done anything other than defend its land. The towel heads in the region are always the aggressors.

ok..:rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

Yes it is. Israel has never done anything other than defend its land. The towel heads in the region are always the aggressors.:lol

[ElNono]

Yes it is. Israel has never done anything other than defend its land. The towel heads in the region are always the aggressors.

lol

[ChumpDumper]

Considering we've strong-armed Israel into engaging in a meaningless "road map to peace" for several administrations nowDefine strong-arm.

What did the US threaten to do if Israel did not engage in peace talks in which it is currently not engaged?

And what has the US gotten in return for the $110 billion we have given to Israel over the years?