Bully picks on kid twice his size, thinking nothing will happen. He's wrong.

[Cry Havoc]

http://home.comcast.net/~nirvgorilla/bullygetsowned-redditorsarecorrupt.mp4

Youtube keeps pulling the link, so a redditor hosted the file.

:tu Pretty crazy vid.

[resistanze]

:lmao

You sonofabitch CH, I'm gonna get fired! Literally crying right now :lol

[silverblk mystix]

That was fuckin' beautiful...

It appears that the big kid was just one of those kids that appears gentle...and other kids pick on him...and because of his demeanor...they just assumed he would keep taking it...

slammed the fuck outta the little prick....I feel a little guilty that I enjoyed that...

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I guess baseline was right. <shrugs>

[Cry Havoc]

Backstory to this: The larger kid had been getting bullied for a long time, and decided to end it. He was suspended from school, the child who threw the first (and second, third, and fourth) punches was not. Typical.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_132711806802243

Facebook group for Casey.

[Cry Havoc]

I guess baseline was right. <shrugs>

Enlighten us, by all means.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Enlighten us, by all means.
Nah. Really don't feel like it. Baseline will, if he wants.

Were you bullied as a kid?

[BlackSwordsMan]

I was never bullied. I went to mexican schools we don't do that shit

[BlackSwordsMan]

jajajaaj pinche gringos

[CosmicCowboy]

Awesome! Kid should still be in school. He took 4 punches before he finally body slammed that little punkass bitch..

[Soul_Patch]

I think if i was the little kid, the first indication i should think about evacuating the area is when i punch the guy in the face, and he doesn't even flinch.

[The Gemini Method]

That little kid got wrecked...good for the picked on to stand up for himself. It's a shame, though, that he was the one disciplined and not the little twirp...

[ALVAREZ6]

crofl


what a fucking dumbass.

[fraga]

Lesson learned...the hard way...

[4>0rings]

:lmao

It would of been epic if he gave the kid the Razors Edge drop while spinning in a circle. Extra points if he threw a toothpick in his face prior.

[ALVAREZ6]

Reminds of what a show called "caught on camera" I believe, w/e, first time I watched it and it was on MSNBC last night. One of the events was where a young black girl with cerebral palsy (at least thats what I think she had) was constantly bullied at school and on the bus. She said she would often go to the bus stop and hide in the bushes and not get on, due to the bullying. The father had enough of it, walked his daughter to the bus stop, was planning on being more mature and talking to the bus driver about it...but as he explained in the show, he got caught up in the moment and got on the bus and threatened all those mofos on the bus. Big props to this dude :tu

4pvsVHdepsw

[Spurminator]

There are several comments on that FB page saying the bully got 21 days' suspension.

[fraga]

Well for the original bully video...there seemed to be an older girl/woman there witnessing the whole thing...so hopefully she relayed the correct break down...

[pawe]

That scrawny bastard got embarrassed big time. I bet he was pissing his pants when he realized that his legs are not working properly.

[Slomo]

Awesome! Kid should still be in school. He took 4 punches before he finally body slammed that little punkass bitch..

Fucking A :tu


I think if i was the little kid, the first indication i should think about evacuating the area is when i punch the guy in the face, and he doesn't even flinch.

:lol Although in all fairness this is the type of lessons you learn later in life. If you live that long...

[Borosai]

Damn.

[The Gemini Method]

:lmao

It would of been epic if he gave the kid the Razors Edge drop while spinning in a circle. Extra points if he threw a toothpick in his face prior.

Do ju know who I am? I'm Razor Ramon...lol

[Cry Havoc]

There are several comments on that FB page saying the bully got 21 days' suspension.

:tu

Awesome. I haven't had time to read through it all. Wonder what Casey got?

[ALVAREZ6]

Would have been better if he power-bombed his upper back/neck/head area into the concrete.

http://www.freewebs.com/jeremya3690/powerbomb%20video.JPG

[resistanze]

Wonder what Casey got?

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[admiralsnackbar]

Watching good prevail over douche is always good on a Monday. Reminds me of

8XqNm-FU8uU

[pawe]

Casey got 4 days.
This is why bullying will never stop. A kid finally had enough and fights back, then gets punished for fighting.
Zero tolerance on fighting the school said about the suspension.

[fraga]

I've always told my son...if someone messes with you...tell them to knock if off...if they don't...tell the teacher or an adult...if they don't stop it...I give you permission to do whatever you need to do to stop it...meaning if you need to knock some little fucker in the nose...I won't be mad at you... :D

[Cry Havoc]

Casey got 4 days.
This is why bullying will never stop. A kid finally had enough and fights back, then gets punished for fighting.
Zero tolerance on fighting the school said about the suspension.

Sweeeeeeeeeeet. 4 days off school! I bet his parents take him out for ice cre.... some nice frisbee tossing as a reward. :tu

[PM5K]

I like how his bigger friend tried to act all tough, but clearly knew better.

[Oh, Gee!!]

ouch

[baseline bum]

That is awesome. :rollin

[baseline bum]

Sweeeeeeeeeeet. 4 days off school! I bet his parents take him out for ice cre.... some nice frisbee tossing as a reward. :tu

:lol Sounds like my dad.

[PM5K]

I can sort of understand zero tolerance, when you don't know exactly what happened. It's easier to just suspend both parties involved in the fight. In this case however they knew based on the video exactly what happened.

[dbreiden83080]

That stupid little shit got exactly what he deserved. Just walks up to the guy and punches him in the face..

Hope he broke his fuckin leg..

[dbreiden83080]

Backstory to this: The larger kid had been getting bullied for a long time, and decided to end it. He was suspended from school, the child who threw the first (and second, third, and fourth) punches was not. Typical.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_132711806802243

Facebook group for Casey.

How the fuck is he not suspended when he walked up to the guy and punched him in the face? Who's running that piece of shit school??

[BlackSwordsMan]

whos filming it? tbh

[mouse]

Youtube keeps pulling the link, .

Soon you maggots will pay each time you click on a Youtube link!

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[Sisk]

whos filming it? tbh

Pretty sure it's the little guy's friend.

That guy got fucking owned.

[Muser]

:lmao kid should be in the WWE, mad props to him.

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[GoodOdor]

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[pawe]

Now the skinny dumbass broken legged bully is getting trolled by 4chan. His facebook is now deleted and prank calls are pouring in.

[phxspurfan]

man that could have been bad if he landed on his head/neck

1st degree murder, tried as an adult at 13

[Muser]

lol broken leg

serves the cunt right.

[Spurminator]

Casey got 4 days.
This is why bullying will never stop. A kid finally had enough and fights back, then gets punished for fighting.
Zero tolerance on fighting the school said about the suspension.

He has to get some form of punishment. You can't body slam a kid head first and not have a pretty serious punishment handed down, regardless of whether or not it was justified.

I'm sure he, his parents and his peers agree the 4 days off is worth it.

[DMX7]

Sweeeeeeeeeeet. 4 days off school! I bet his parents take him out for ice cre.... some nice frisbee tossing as a reward. :tu

:lol

[Muser]

would you really get charged though? for defending himself. i mean what about someone with a concealed weapons license who is attacked and uses it...he goes to jail for protecting himself to? these laws never make much sense to me at all.

If someone comes at you with a knife or something you should be able to blow the fuckers head off imo.

Hell if someone starts punching like in the vid you should be able to fuck them up without punishment.

[oh crap]

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that little shit got what he deserved

[pawe]

If someone comes at you with a knife or something you should be able to blow the fuckers head off imo.

Hell if someone starts punching like in the vid you should be able to fuck them up without punishment.

If someone starts punching you and you did not participate or did not provoke him then you can shoot him. Because he can knock you out and use your weapon against you. - Learned this on a CCW class.
Several factors should be considered of course like gravity of the situation and weight and height difference specially when lawyers (w/c is almost certain) are present.

[PM5K]

He has to get some form of punishment.

For defending himself?

[PM5K]

http://i55.tinypic.com/bfjgwm.jpg

Where did you find that?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

For defending himself?

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

[Muser]

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

Disagree, the little fuck knew the big guy could snap him in two before he started the fight.

[PM5K]

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

Who are you to decide how, or by what specific means he should defend himself? If that's what he knows how to do, then that's what he should do to defend himself.

[v2freak]

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

I wouldn't have handled it that way either, though I'll admit to enjoying the video.

[blizz]

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

What a crock of shit. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're probably one of those tree hugging kum ba ya pussies aren't you? I'm sure he didn't premeditate that you dumbass. It happened in the heat of the fight where there is no thinking, there is no rationalizing, there's just make sure you mess up the other guy more than he messes you up....simple.

[SAtown]

He looks like the fat kid from Bad Santa.


It would of been epic if he gave the kid the Razors Edge drop while spinning in a circle. Extra points if he threw a toothpick in his face prior.

:lmao

[PM5K]

I also think that when you mess with a kid that size, you're clearly taking a gamble that he could potentially hurt you pretty badly if he wanted to.

I mean if all we had were these two kids, and you asked people who do you think would hit harder, or be stronger, you'd pick the bigger kid. It's not anybody's fault but his that he decided to bully a much bigger kid, hoping that he was too passive to do anything, but that was a bad gamble on his part, and it didn't pay off.

[phxspurfan]

that's what i always thought?? that you had the right to defend yourself. i've fucked some people up BAD after they swung at me first and never got charged with anything..

I think part of the case is about responding with reasonable amount of force. So unless the guy comes at you with a deadly weapon (which is only his fists if he's Chuck Norris or Steven Seagal), you're going to jail if you use a knife or gun or car against him.

[phxspurfan]

sadly in today's society it's always the one who hurts the other person worse who gets in trouble, if the law is called in to intervene. we have no rights anymore people, they're slowly evaporating. big brother wants you to learn to take it and shut up, no matter the case. standing up for yourself isn't something they want.

Our society values keeping your cool. And so does the universe. Everyone knows these bullies get it from karma anyway.

Will Smith: "let God deal with the things they do, if you let hate in your heart it will consume you too!"

[Muser]

If you use a knife or gun on someone in a fist fight you're a pussy tbh, different story if it's a robbery/mugging.

[phxspurfan]

If someone starts punching you and you did not participate or did not provoke him then you can shoot him. Because he can knock you out and use your weapon against you. - Learned this on a CCW class.
Several factors should be considered of course like gravity of the situation and weight and height difference specially when lawyers (w/c is almost certain) are present.

And whether you can walk away without escalating the fight.

[PM5K]

Our society values keeping your cool.

That kid had every chance. If he had walked away right after hitting the kid four times, he wouldn't have gotten body slammed, but he didn't.

That's keeping your cool.

[SourCandy]

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lol wow wow wow!

bully didn't look like we would pass as a bully.

[BlackSwordsMan]

sweetie i would never let anyone hurt you like that

[ALVAREZ6]

man that could have been just if he landed on his head/neck

[ALVAREZ6]

his leg is really broke??? lololol thats messed up

No it isn't, it's awesome.

[ALVAREZ6]

Who are you to decide how, or by what specific means he should defend himself? If that's what he knows how to do, then that's what he should do to defend himself.

Because it's part of law. You're supposed to keep context in check. If a kid comes up and slaps you repeatedly on the face, you can't just whip out a crow bar and smash his face in. Look it up.


It sort of taints the story that the bigger kid got 4 days, but he still fucked him up nonetheless beyond what was necessary to subdue that tiny little fuck. I agree with SFIE, no sympathy for that cunt, but there are laws that state you cannot just retaliate in any type of defense that you want.

If a woman starts hitting me, it would be unjust under the law for me to body slam her into the ground and bash her face in until it is entirely fucked up, and then curb stomp her. Just the way it is, even if the person deserves most of it.

[vy65]

A proportional response to a threat - in self defense - is legit. If someone comes at you with a knife, the law is not going to protect you if you blow this person's head off with a bazooka. But, that's a pretty academic distinction.

As for the video, the kid got what he deserved. He shouldn't have been suspended, and if I were the kids parent's, I'd raise hell over his suspension.

[vy65]

Because it's part of law. You're supposed to keep context in check. If a kid comes up and slaps you repeatedly on the face, you can't just whip out a crow bar and smash his face in. Look it up.


It sort of taints the story that the bigger kid got 4 days, but he still fucked him up nonetheless beyond what was necessary to subdue that tiny little fuck. I agree with SFIE, no sympathy for that cunt, but there are laws that state you cannot just retaliate in any type of defense that you want.

If a woman starts hitting me, it would be unjust under the law for me to body slam her into the ground and bash her face in until it is entirely fucked up, and then curb stomp her. Just the way it is, even if the person deserves most of it.

How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?

[ALVAREZ6]

What a crock of shit. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're probably one of those tree hugging kum ba ya pussies aren't you? I'm sure he didn't premeditate that you dumbass. It happened in the heat of the fight where there is no thinking, there is no rationalizing, there's just make sure you mess up the other guy more than he messes you up....simple.
It's not his original idea, so if you think it's a crock of shit, take it up with the law.


The reason why I personally believe the big kid's punishment is precisely because he's a young ass kid, who has no idea of these laws, and it wasn't extremely excessive. It's not like he fucked him up while he was down. I guess the school is just very intolerant of fighting, as stated. He used his brute force, fucked the kid's day up, and then walked right away like a true OG.

[PM5K]

A proportional response to a threat - in self defense - is legit. If someone comes at you with a knife, the law is not going to protect you if you blow this person's head off with a bazooka. But, that's a pretty academic distinction.

That's a poor example. If someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them with a bazooka, they have a weapon that can kill me and I respond with one that can kill them back. Why I have a bazooka is a whole other question entirely.

Now if someone comes at me with a teddy bear, and I stab them in the eyeball, well that's a better example.

I don't see anything that kid did in his defense, that was out of line with what was going on. It's just as simple as him being stronger and able to pick him up and put him down hard. Now if he had pulled out a gun and shot him that would make your point.

[ALVAREZ6]

I also think that when you mess with a kid that size, you're clearly taking a gamble that he could potentially hurt you pretty badly if he wanted to.

I mean if all we had were these two kids, and you asked people who do you think would hit harder, or be stronger, you'd pick the bigger kid. It's not anybody's fault but his that he decided to bully a much bigger kid, hoping that he was too passive to do anything, but that was a bad gamble on his part, and it didn't pay off.

Exactly. It's a mental thing, a human fault. Anyone who fucks with someone twice their size is usually a dumbass...and obviously he paid the consequences. The big dude was unharmed, the other felt extreme pain and probably cry for the rest of the day and his parents probably called him a fucking dumbass...hopefully.

[PM5K]

How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?

Even in that regard I think the bigger kids punch would have potentially hurt the smaller kid considerably worse. He shouldn't be required to pull his punches, some idiot decides to fuck with him he gets what he deserves. If you don't want to get your ass kicked by a bigger kid, don't fuck with one in the first place.

[The Reckoning]

Watching good prevail over douche is always good on a Monday. Reminds me of

8XqNm-FU8uU


:lmao no way thats real

[cornbread]

There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying fucker. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

See, I disagree. I think he controlled himself and reacted about as well as anybody possibly could in that situation. Ever seen a Christmas Story? Big Boy could have gone all Ralphie on that punk and his smashed his face in but he walked away after one conflict-ending slam. When you're seeing red, that's not easy to do. And he only resorted to physically defending himself after being socked in the face. We can't assume the big boy is some self defense expert, he just reacted when physically assaulted.

If that were my son I would pick him up from the principal's office and head directly to Hooter's. There I would let him have his first beer in celebration of the day he became a man and an internet sensation.

[vy65]

That's a poor example. If someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them with a bazooka, they have a weapon that can kill me and I respond with one that can kill them back. Why I have a bazooka is a whole other question entirely.

Well, that's the example they use when they prepare law students to take the Texas Bar Exam, so you might want to inform the Board of Legal Examiners that their interpretation of the law is incorrect.


I don't see anything that kid did in his defense, that was out of line with what was going on. It's just as simple as him being stronger and able to pick him up and put him down hard. Now if he had pulled out a gun and shot him that would make your point.

I agree. It's hard to define what excessive and non-excessive self defense is.

[IronMaxipad]

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[PM5K]

his parents probably called him a fucking dumbass...hopefully.

Parents that cool are one in a million. My kids are generally rather passive, except for the youngest so I couldn't imagine them being in this situation, at least from the bully perspective, but if my kid had that happen to him I'd laugh at his ass just as much as I'm laughing at this kid.

[ALVAREZ6]

How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?

I don't know...why don't you ask the law how they currently classify it?

No, I'm not saying the 13 year old kid has to know every detail of what's going on in that very quick situation...as a previous post says. For those reasons, I don't think he should have been suspended...can't expect that type of rationalization from a little kid. Also, punching the kid back in the face could have also resulted in something just as harmful. This is why I think it's bullshit, but whatever. Being suspended at age 13 is no big deal, no real outcome in the long run. The other kid got what he deserved.

[The Reckoning]

shit all the bullies at my school were the big dudes size :lol

[PM5K]

Well, that's the example they use when they prepare law students to take the Texas Bar Exam, so you might want to inform the Board of Legal Examiners that their interpretation of the law is incorrect.



I agree. It's hard to define what excessive and non-excessive self defense is.

Seems like a pretty stupid example don't you think? It's my understanding that if someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them if I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Why should a bazooka be any different? Does it matter if it's a 22, or a 45? Where is the line drawn? Either way the guy is dead so what does it matter what size, caliber, or type of weapon I use?

Again I don't know why you'd have a bazooka, and you might have a lot of other questions to answer, but you get my point.

[vy65]

I don't know...why don't you ask the law how they currently classify it?

No, I'm not saying the 13 year old kid has to know every detail of what's going on in that very quick situation...as a previous post says. For those reasons, I don't think he should have been suspended...can't expect that type of rationalization from a little kid. Also, punching the kid back in the face could have also resulted in something just as harmful. This is why I think it's bullshit, but whatever. Being suspended at age 13 is no big deal, no real outcome in the long run. The other kid got what he deserved.

The law doesn't classify anything - that question would go to a jury and they'd decide based on the specific facts and circumstances.

The kid didn't anything wrong - he shouldn't have been suspended at all.

[vy65]

Seems like a pretty stupid example don't you think? It's my understanding that if someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them if I'm licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Why should a bazooka be any different? Does it matter if it's a 22, or a 45? Where is the line drawn? Either way the guy is dead so what does it matter what size, caliber, or type of weapon I use?

Again I don't know why you'd have a bazooka, and you might have a lot of other questions to answer, but you get my point.

You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes. That is the law of self-defense.

The bazooka thing was just an example to prove my point. I dunno why you're going down an irrelevant tangent. My point is that you can't draw a line, and because of that, the kid shouldn't have been suspended.

[ALVAREZ6]

The law doesn't classify anything - that question would go to a jury and they'd decide based on the specific facts and circumstances.
Well then you answered your own question.

The kid didn't anything wrong - he shouldn't have been suspended at all.

I agree

[ALVAREZ6]

You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes. That is the law of self-defense.

The bazooka thing was just an example to prove my point. I dunno why you're going down an irrelevant tangent. My point is that you can't draw a line, and because of that, the kid shouldn't have been suspended.

A fucking knife isn't a deadly force? It's extremely easy to kill someone with a knife, so if the law doesn't see it that way...that's fucking retarded, and on par with many of our stupid ass laws.

[PM5K]

You can't respond to non-deadly force with deadly force. Deadly force is a gun, a bomb, or anything that explodes.

"Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force."

You're telling me a knife isn't deadly force?

We all seem to agree on the main point though, except SFIE, and there's a reason he's in exile.

[vy65]

"Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force."

You're telling me a knife isn't deadly force?

We all seem to agree on the main point though, except SFIE, and there's a reason he's in exile.

Yah I wouldn't consider it deadly. I can see how people would disagree.

But even if it was considered deadly, I'd still say shooting someone who's pulled a knife on you isn't proportional - which is really what any self-defense question of fact would turn upon.

[The Reckoning]

a knife isnt considered deadly because nobody knows how to properly use/hold one

[SnakeBoy]

Growing up as a military brat I spent the first month at every new school getting suspended for not taking shit off of the bullies who wanted to test the new kid. So it doesn't suprise me that the kid got suspended.

What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.

[PM5K]

a knife isnt considered deadly because nobody knows how to properly use/hold one

lol, I know I'd wind up cutting myself with one...

[ALVAREZ6]

You guys don't think your average person can easily cut someones jugular??? Once a significant wound is there, that person is effectively done because the one with the knife can proceed to doing whatever the fuck he/she wants.

You average man can easily ram a knife into someones gut/chest....which often results in death alone.

[oh crap]

someone forgot to tell dexter and all the mexicans that knives aren't deadly weapons.

[ALVAREZ6]

Growing up as a military brat I spent the first month at every new school getting suspended for not taking shit off of the bullies who wanted to test the new kid. So it doesn't suprise me that the kid got suspended.

What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.

Wow...talk about being pieces of shit.

Whoever said it was right though, cool parents are one in a million.

[The Reckoning]

What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.



just show the judge the video and he'll lol and void it.

[SnakeBoy]

Well no matter what happens the parents of the little bully can be proud their little precious is forever famous on the internets...

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[PM5K]

Whoever said it was right though, cool parents are one in a million.

I did, but it's not even that, it's that most parents think their kids do no wrong, just as I'm sure this kids parent's are. Even if they acknowledge that their son did wrong, they still want to pass off blame to the other kid for his response, my response to that is you play with fire, you get burned.

[Stringer_Bell]

Why was the little kid saying "you talkin shit" to the big kid? Is that how bullies do things, they accuse you of "talkin shit"?

Pretty underwhelming video IMO, altho the little guy walking all crippled was funny

[I. Hustle]

I'm the bad guy chico

[silverblk mystix]

Yah I wouldn't consider it deadly. I can see how people would disagree.

But even if it was considered deadly, I'd still say shooting someone who's pulled a knife on you isn't proportional - which is really what any self-defense question of fact would turn upon.

You would be well within your rights if someone attacked you with a knife and -yes- a knife is a deadly weapon.

If you pulled a gun and shot him you would be within your rights.

Of course--a lawyer would try and get you charged with unlawfully carrying a weapon if you had no permit/license...but who cares--you saved your own life and this would be taken into account--that you were in fear for your life and acted to defend yourself...

hell--you wouldn't even have to be attacked or cut...if a guy twice your size pulls out a knife and you are scared shitless and pull out a 9mm and shoot him...you are on good ground here...

also...

these are kids and the law is a little different...since in most situations...a child's records will be cleared once he becomes an adult...so this would be a juvenile offense and not a criminal offense like an adult would be charged with...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

How did you guys find out about the facebook and punishment stuff?

[SnakeBoy]

Internets

[pawe]

How did you guys find out about the facebook and punishment stuff?

Its all over 4chan. They are trolling the kid and his household and also the school for suspending zangief kid.

[Borosai]

I agree that the little shit deserved a beating, but that slam was over-the-top dangerous. All he had to do was take a few swings at that dancing fairy and all would've been good. But hey, at least it won't happen again.

[pawe]

Adrenalin brother. Once you get into a fight, you get tunnel vision, increased strength, and automatically do whatever is necessary to stop the threat.

Dont tell me if you are into a fight, you will still try your hardest to not hit the other guy's nose because you might break it and lead to other complications like sinus and ear infections long term.

Now if the other guy is already down and you still keep on kicking his head, that is what I call over the top.

[v2freak]

I watched the video a couple times and it looked like the kid landed at an angle. I'm amazed he didn't crack his skull

[greyforest]

punkass learns a lesson, and that huge kid probably won't get picked on now.

no one will remember the suspensions, but everyone will remember the fight.

[ManuBalboa]

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[21_Dickings]

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When IronMexican saw this, he cared nothing for the body slam and could only focus on the girl in the background.

[monosylab1k]

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[The Reckoning]

:lol

2LI58SYWQE0

[DJ Mbenga]

fatty is lucky that his leg got hit not his head. otherwise he'd be in jail.

[MannyIsGod]

I agree that the little shit deserved a beating, but that slam was over-the-top dangerous. All he had to do was take a few swings at that dancing fairy and all would've been good. But hey, at least it won't happen again.

Yeah thats pretty much my stance. I'm not shedding a tear for the small kid and the fucker got what he deserved but that slam isn't the way to defend yourself when you're talking kids. I don't blame the big kid because I think he just snapped at that point but it really would have been better for him to just punch the other kid and knock him out.

A slam like that can have deadly consequences.

[MannyIsGod]

That slam is nuts though. Don't think I've ever seen anyone slammed like that outside of an MMA ring.

[Zelophehad]

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[Muser]

That slam is nuts though. Don't think I've ever seen anyone slammed like that outside of an MMA ring.

Yeah, doubt the big guy knew what he was doing he just saw the red mist and powerbombed the little douchebag.

Fuckin' A.

[Agloco]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/video-watch-bullied-kid-fight-back/article1942376/?from=1942375

Working link.

Looked like he was gonna go off on the next kid that stepped up too. Props to him. :tu

[Pero]

Yeah thats pretty much my stance. I'm not shedding a tear for the small kid and the fucker got what he deserved but that slam isn't the way to defend yourself when you're talking kids. I don't blame the big kid because I think he just snapped at that point but it really would have been better for him to just punch the other kid and knock him out.


I disagree, there's no way to know that. If he had punched him and knocked him out the bully might as well have fallen head back on the place where his leg hit.

[Agloco]

Yeah thats pretty much my stance. I'm not shedding a tear for the small kid and the fucker got what he deserved but that slam isn't the way to defend yourself when you're talking kids. I don't blame the big kid because I think he just snapped at that point but it really would have been better for him to just punch the other kid and knock him out.

A slam like that can have deadly consequences.

So can a punch depending on where it lands. Coming from a kid that big, a punch to the head could be as damaging if not worse. I've seen it many times in the ER.

On a side note, I don't really think there's a point in arguing what his response should have been. He's a kid right?

[CubanSucks]

lol at everyone "I think a punch would have been sufficient. The body slam was a little too much." GTFO with that shit. Tell that to the kid with his adrenalin rushing and his nerves firing off a million miles an hour. His MO was to stop the kid as quickly as possible. Landing a good punch to the head of a much faster smaller kid is being a little picky don't you think? I seriously doubt he thought it might be a good idea to get into a boxing match with a wirey kid with his friends all around who could jump in at any moment. To most people it's natural to wanna bring the fight close and grapple, ESPECIALLY if you're bigger, stronger, and slower than the other; just watch mma.


Seriously, you're the type of people like the one's who got this kid suspended

[Muser]

lol at everyone "I think a punch would have been sufficient. The body slam was a little too much." GTFO with that shit. Tell that to the kid with his adrenalin rushing and his nerves firing off a million miles an hour. His MO was to stop the kid as quickly as possible. Landing a good punch to the head of a much faster smaller kid is being a little picky don't you think? I seriously doubt he thought it might be a good idea to get into a boxing match with a wirey kid with his friends all around who could jump in at any moment. To most people it's natural to wanna bring the fight close and grapple, ESPECIALLY if you're bigger, stronger, and slower than the other; just watch mma.


Seriously, you're the type of people like the one's who got this kid suspended

Exactly, if you've got that much of a size advantage you go in and just overpower the other guy.

[Creepn]

Nah that fat kid had to resort to some grappling technique. That scrawny kid would've danced circles around him if he resorted to some stand up fight.

Edit: Yah, what CubanSucks said.

[Muser]

Complaining about what the kid did is like punching a prime Mike Tyson and complaining after he knocks your teeth out.

[MannyIsGod]

I disagree, there's no way to know that. If he had punched him and knocked him out the bully might as well have fallen head back on the place where his leg hit.

Slamming him like this was definitely one of the most dangerous things the kid could have fought back with. He obviously had the strength to simply restrain him as well.

Look, I don't blame the kid, but its obvious that he can't just go around slamming other kids like that even if they punch him first.

[Muser]

I doubt anyone smaller than him will be messing with him now anyway.

[Pero]

Slamming him like this was definitely one of the most dangerous things the kid could have fought back with. He obviously had the strength to simply restrain him as well.

Just because someone is strong it doesn't mean they have skill. And even if he had, lets say he somehow restrains him. What then? I doubt the kid carries handcuffs with him so eventually he'd have to let him go. And the whole story could repeat itself indefinitely. And that's not even accounting for the bullie's buddies.



Look, I don't blame the kid, but its obvious that he can't just go around slamming other kids like that even if they punch him first.

Well I don't actually disagree with that, however it's pretty unlikely this is going to happen to him again. :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Slamming him like this was definitely one of the most dangerous things the kid could have fought back with. He obviously had the strength to simply restrain him as well.

Look, I don't blame the kid, but its obvious that he can't just go around slamming other kids like that even if they punch him first.

I disagree.


Fuck bitches up. You mess with the bull, you get the horns. Don't be a douche, all is well. At least this way the fucker most likely learned his lesson...I doubt he'll ever fuck with another larger kid like that ever again :lol . But thinking about it, it could just as easily encourage him to try again with a kid closer to his size or smaller, simply 'cus he could be a vengeful dumb little prick who needs to have some type of last word in, so to speak.

[cornbread]

Slamming him like this was definitely one of the most dangerous things the kid could have fought back with. He obviously had the strength to simply restrain him as well.

Look, I don't blame the kid, but its obvious that he can't just go around slamming other kids like that even if they punch him first.

This boy shouldn't be held to some double-standard or honor code of self defense in which a victim is limited in what they can or can't do to defend themselves because of a size disparity. He defended himself and he could have done a lot more violence than just tossing the kid around a bit. He should be commended for the amount of self control he showed. There was nothing unreasonable about the way he reacted to that unprovoked assault.

Plus, the "restrain him with your strength" option is a really bad choice when there are guys standing there ready to jump in, which is of course exactly what happened immediately after the slam. It's sounds all nice and honorable in theory, but not the best option when you're safety is on the line.

[PM5K]

Yeah I guarantee you that body slam made that other little asshole think twice.

[TheMACHINE]

anyone find the old vid of the shit talking cholo who got knocked out by the other cholo who got out of the car?

[Halberto]

All of you who are criticizing the fat kid clearly have never been in a fight before. It really brings the animal out of you. The little shit got what was coming to him.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

I have watched this video now at least 20 times and you know what? It keep getting funnier every time that little bitch gets slammed.

[I. Hustle]

I don't think he did anything wrong. He had to take him out quickly before those other kids jumped in.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

I don't think he did anything wrong. He had to take him out quickly before those other kids jumped in.

Nice of those girls to just stand there and watch.

[DPG21920]

All of you who are criticizing the fat kid clearly have never been in a fight before. It really brings the animal out of you. The little shit got what was coming to him.

This made me :lol

[baseline bum]

I have watched this video now at least 20 times and you know what? It keep getting funnier every time that little bitch gets slammed.

/thread

[ALVAREZ6]

I have watched this video now at least 20 times and you know what? It keep getting funnier every time that little bitch gets slammed.

:tu

[ALVAREZ6]

Nice of those girls to just stand there and watch.

Can you blame a pussy for being a pussy?


lol, the chick was prob scared shitless of the big kid...like they knew a huge storm was about to hit.

[CubanSucks]

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[ALVAREZ6]

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:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Sec24Row7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVTqVJRPFLs&feature=player_embedded

[CubanSucks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVTqVJRPFLs&feature=player_embedded

fVTqVJRPFLs

this whole thing is the greatest meme generator since..I don't know when


and I'm NEVER gonna get tired of it

[bluefoot]

If someone starts punching you and you did not participate or did not provoke him then you can shoot him. Because he can knock you out and use your weapon against you. - Learned this on a CCW class.
Several factors should be considered of course like gravity of the situation and weight and height difference specially when lawyers (w/c is almost certain) are present.

You better take another CCW class.

[mojorizen7]

I don't think he did anything wrong. He had to take him out quickly before those other kids jumped in.

Exactly. From the looks of it,it was definately a road game for the big kid.
Douchebag kid #2 filming douchebag kid #1 throwing punches at big kid while his crew of douchbag friends look on with joy.

Solution: Fuck up the star player real over-the-top-like in front of the hostile crowd and then get the fuck outta town.
Mission accomplished.

[Pero]

Exactly. From the looks of it,it was definately a road game for the big kid.


What's a road game?

[CubanSucks]

Exactly. From the looks of it,it was definately a road game for the big kid.
Douchebag kid #2 filming douchebag kid #1 throwing punches at big kid while his crew of douchbag friends look on with joy.

Solution: Fuck up the star player real over-the-top-like in front of the hostile crowd and then get the fuck outta town.
Mission accomplished.

I love this analysis. Speakin the truth


What's a road game?

:lmao

[benefactor]

Clearly I remember
Pickin' on the boy
Seemed a harmless little fuck
But we unleashed a lion
Gnashed his teeth
And bit the recess lady's breast
How could i forget
He hit me with a surprise left
My jaw left hurtin
Dropped wide open
Just like the day
Like the day i heard

[fraga]

fVTqVJRPFLs


bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

[baseline bum]

LMAO, the Zangief theme is perfect here.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Told you motherfuckers it was a bad idea to mess with Tpark

[MannyIsGod]

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:lmao

[pawe]

You better take another CCW class.

It's easy to just let out a statement like that without being specific.

Here in AZ, we have a dont back down law or make my day law. If you are assaulted and you feel your life is in danger you dont have the obligation to retreat first, you can shoot him regardless of the weapon he is armed with too(bare fists, bat, crowbar, knife, gun).

In a bar, if a drunk guy comes up to your face and wants to fight you, and you just keep on saying "no, I wont fight but I am armed and I want you to back off me" but then the other guy just started punching you then your life is already in danger and you have to stop the threat by shooting him than risking you getting knocked out/dazed and him using your gun on you. Remember, you did not willingly participate in the fight and did not provoke a fight.

Personally, I will not shoot the drunk guy as I can probably run out and avoid the situation. It's just not worth it to kill a man over a dick measuring contest. but technically, you are defending yourself from assault and your life is in danger in this situation so you can shoot...Everytime you fire your gun, a lawyer's letter is always attached to it so be ready to take the risks.

FYI, the CCW class I took was not one of those NRA certified classes where they just give you brochures and papers.
So, explain your side.

[Cry Havoc]

So, any chance the Spurs could sign him to a 10 day?

[Oh, Gee!!]

So, any chance the Spurs could sign him to a 10 day?

nah, we never have much luck with Aussies

[timtonymanu]

Sweet! I enjoyed every second of that video.

The little fucker got what he deserved.

[CubanSucks]

It's easy to just let out a statement like that without being specific.

Here in AZ, we have a dont back down law or make my day law. If you are assaulted and you feel your life is in danger you dont have the obligation to retreat first, you can shoot him regardless of the weapon he is armed with too(bare fists, bat, crowbar, knife, gun).

In a bar, if a drunk guy comes up to your face and wants to fight you, and you just keep on saying "no, I wont fight but I am armed and I want you to back off me" but then the other guy just started punching you then your life is already in danger and you have to stop the threat by shooting him than risking you getting knocked out/dazed and him using your gun on you. Remember, you did not willingly participate in the fight and did not provoke a fight.

Personally, I will not shoot the drunk guy as I can probably run out and avoid the situation. It's just not worth it to kill a man over a dick measuring contest. but technically, you are defending yourself from assault and your life is in danger in this situation so you can shoot...Everytime you fire your gun, a lawyer's letter is always attached to it so be ready to take the risks.

FYI, the CCW class I took was not one of those NRA certified classes where they just give you brochures and papers.
So, explain your side.

You see, the problem is you're arguing with the type of people who live in a fantasy world where everyone is reasonable enough to talk to. To them there's no need for any violence. All they need is to let the violent person hear the right words and EVERYONE'S got it in themselves to stop their irrational behavior. They're the same type of people you hear about in the news who bled to death from a stab wound in their neck because they tried to verbally stop an assailant

[Chachachango]

HAHA, someone remind the scrawny kid not to play with fire.

[The Franchise]

I don't understand why the fat kid was punished. Somehow defending yourself is now wrong? For the few of you saying he should have shown better restraint, I doubt most of you would have had the restraint to walk away after slamming someone to the ground that punched you in the face twice.

[ploto]

I finally saw the video- while I understand the kid's frustration, his retaliation was not proportional to the taunting. He did not just punch the kid back; he picked him up and body slammed him onto concrete.

[resistanze]

I finally saw the video- while I understand the kid's frustration, his retaliation was not proportional to the taunting. He did not just punch the kid back; he picked him up and body slammed him onto concrete.

I doubt the bodyslam was premeditated. He was dealing with an individual who was repeatedly punching him in the face, unprovoked.

Now if he had stomped on the kid's head after the slam, I can see your point. But we're looking at a boy who was caught up in the moment in an attempt to defend himself while being assaulted - I don't care that the other kids was smaller than him.

[pawe]

You see, the problem is you're arguing with the type of people who live in a fantasy world where everyone is reasonable enough to talk to. To them there's no need for any violence. All they need is to let the violent person hear the right words and EVERYONE'S got it in themselves to stop their irrational behavior. They're the same type of people you hear about in the news who bled to death from a stab wound in their neck because they tried to verbally stop an assailant

Well sometimes diplomacy works specially if the disagreement involves alcohol, music and crowded places. Easy to de-escalate the problem by saying sorry and then leaving right away.

What the poster was arguing about is he doesnt think it's right for a concealed carry permit holder to defend himself against a guy attacking you using just his bare fists. I think what he wants to point out is tit for tat, if a guy punches you then you can only just punch him back and not stab him or shoot him.


I don't understand why the fat kid was punished. Somehow defending yourself is now wrong? For the few of you saying he should have shown better restraint, I doubt most of you would have had the restraint to walk away after slamming someone to the ground that punched you in the face twice.

He was punished because the school have zero tolerance on fighting. He still was involved in fighting so the school was probably just following protocol.
He is an internet hero now, 4 days of suspension is worth it.

[4>0rings]

I finally saw the video- while I understand the kid's frustration, his retaliation was not proportional to the taunting. He did not just punch the kid back; he picked him up and body slammed him onto concrete.
And the kid won't be picking on him anymore. Job done.

[4>0rings]

What the poster was arguing about is he doesnt think it's right for a concealed carry permit holder to defend himself against a guy attacking you using just his bare fists.

Have you ever been in a real fight? Fists can be just as deadly. My ex's cousin got suckered punched and almost lost his eye, he just has permanent eye damage now. He's a real scrawny little guy that never starts shit, you really think he can defend himself against a big guy?

Ever fight a 6'7" 360lb polish guy? Your fists aren't going to do much.

[pawe]

Have you ever been in a real fight? Fists can be just as deadly. My ex's cousin got suckered punched and almost lost his eye, he just has permanent eye damage now. He's a real scrawny little guy that never starts shit, you really think he can defend himself against a big guy?

Ever fight a 6'7" 360lb polish guy? Your fists aren't going to do much.

That's what Im trying to say. My argument is you can shoot someone even if the guy was just punching you. - This is what I learned on the ccw class that I took.
The poster here who said I should take another class apparently doesnt know what he is talking about. It is not about how much damage a certain attack will do to you, it is about the threshold of pulling your gun for self defense. Just because he is only using his fists doesnt mean he cant be shot.

[4>0rings]

That's what Im trying to say. My argument is you can shoot someone even if the guy was just punching you. - This is what I learned on the ccw class that I took.
The poster here who said I should take another class apparently doesnt know what he is talking about. It is not about how much damage a certain attack will do to you, it is about the threshold of pulling your gun for self defense. Just because he is only using his fists doesnt mean he cant be shot.
:tu

[Cry Havoc]

I finally saw the video- while I understand the kid's frustration, his retaliation was not proportional to the taunting. He did not just punch the kid back; he picked him up and body slammed him onto concrete.

This just in: Getting repeatedly punched in the face = taunting.

[ploto]

I know people are mad about the suspension but schools do this to try to diffuse the situation, and sometimes to protect both parties. I know of a school that I thought had a zero tolerance policy. Two kids got in a fight but somehow only one got suspended. Not too hard to predict that the next day, the one kid that was in school got the crap beat out of him by the friends of the other kid.

[Chomag]

I understand both sides to this argument but I wonder how much different this conversation would be if the small kid died here from a broken neck or broken skull.

[resistanze]

I understand both sides to this argument but I wonder how much different this conversation would be if the small kid died here from a broken neck or broken skull.

No different than if Casey had punched the bully and the bully fell and smashed his head on the concrete. An unfortunate, intended consequence of someone defending himself.

[CuckingFunt]

"Does your eyes lay gase upon this glory?"

Seriously?



Also, when did a lack of control become a viable excuse?

[Drachen]

"Does your eyes lay gase upon this glory?"

Seriously?



Also, when did a lack of control become a viable excuse?

I don't think there was a lack of control. In fact quite the opposite. He threw the kid down, and didn't do anything else he walked away. He was repeatedly attacked and defended himself the best way he knew how, then when the threat was no longer threatening him, he walked away. He could have taken it so much farther if he had lost control.

The only things wrong that happened here was everything before the big kid moved.

[CuckingFunt]

I don't think there was a lack of control. In fact quite the opposite. He threw the kid down, and didn't do anything else he walked away. He was repeatedly attacked and defended himself the best way he knew how, then when the threat was no longer threatening him, he walked away. He could have taken it so much farther if he had lost control.

The only things wrong that happened here was everything before the big kid moved.

I'm of the opinion that he could have just as easily walked away without the body slam, but that's beside the point as I was mostly referring to the comments in this thread. As a few people have suggested that the few punches the little kid threw weren't worth such a violent response (and, to be sure, picking up a kid half your size and slamming him on the ground is a violent act), the response has been to defend his actions with the excuse that he was in the heat of the moment and probably responded blindly, which I find somewhat problematic. I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?

[Drachen]

I'm of the opinion that he could have just as easily walked away without the body slam, but that's beside the point as I was mostly referring to the comments in this thread. As a few people have suggested that the few punches the little kid threw weren't worth such a violent response (and, to be sure, picking up a kid half your size and slamming him on the ground is a violent act), the response has been to defend his actions with the excuse that he was in the heat of the moment and probably responded blindly, which I find somewhat problematic. I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?

I don't agree with those who think he saw "red mist" or anything. If he did, he surely would have caused far greater damage. He was obviously by himself against at least 3 people (one of which was taller than him). You can have your composure all you want but when bullies keep attacking you and and you have taken a few punches, tried to block a few more and they keep punching you, eventually you have fight back. Honestly, this was likely the safest thing of all, the fact that he got it out, the others will likely stop and no one will be in danger of a pipe bomb to the skull.

Edit: without the rambling, and to answer your question, I believe that composure is favorable, and I am glad casey was able to keep his.

[koriwhat]

I'm of the opinion that he could have just as easily walked away without the body slam, but that's beside the point as I was mostly referring to the comments in this thread. As a few people have suggested that the few punches the little kid threw weren't worth such a violent response (and, to be sure, picking up a kid half your size and slamming him on the ground is a violent act), the response has been to defend his actions with the excuse that he was in the heat of the moment and probably responded blindly, which I find somewhat problematic. I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?

put yourself in the shoes of a teenage boy and with all the hormones and shit pumping through you, you not only have to deal with that but also some little shit punching you in the face and trying to show off to some other little shits who most likely have abused you too over the course of your adolescent life.

fuck that little shit, he got what he deserved whether or not it was administered in a more tamed manner.

don't fuck with the bull or you'll get the horns!

http://americancopywriter.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/breakfastclub7.jpg

[resistanze]

I'm of the opinion that he could have just as easily walked away without the body slam, but that's beside the point as I was mostly referring to the comments in this thread. As a few people have suggested that the few punches the little kid threw weren't worth such a violent response (and, to be sure, picking up a kid half your size and slamming him on the ground is a violent act), the response has been to defend his actions with the excuse that he was in the heat of the moment and probably responded blindly, which I find somewhat problematic. I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?

Personally I don't think the goal while being attacked is necessarily to maintain one's composure. I can only speak for myself but when when I refer to 'caught up in the moment' I'm not simply referring to being antagonized - I'm referring to when one is under attack from another individual.

We're talking about a kid who cocked back and punched this kid in the face, and attempted to do so repeatedly. The fact that the bully decided to punch someone in the face who could body-slam him is his own fault.

Also, the fact that throwing the bully was a potentially dangerous move doesn't resonate well with me. Casey could've punched the kid back in the face and the bully might've cracked his skull on the pavement. Like I before, if he had stomped on the bully afterwards, then I see an argument for a disproportional reaction. Not in this case.

[silverblk mystix]

I'm of the opinion that he could have just as easily walked away without the body slam, but that's beside the point as I was mostly referring to the comments in this thread. As a few people have suggested that the few punches the little kid threw weren't worth such a violent response (and, to be sure, picking up a kid half your size and slamming him on the ground is a violent act), the response has been to defend his actions with the excuse that he was in the heat of the moment and probably responded blindly, which I find somewhat problematic. I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?

I would ALMOST agree with you here except for one minor thing...

If anyone here has ever been punched in the face they will understand.

If you have ever experienced being punched in the face-it is very hard to react appropriately to every one's satisfaction.

You're punched, it stings, your eyes water, the adrenaline flows, your rage boils-or fear kicks in, among other body responses...responses that are usually not present in everyday dealings.

If you can still control your reactions and simply walk away-kudos to you, however, half of the witnesses will then be calling you a coward and you will probably be bullied even more. This kid probably had already walked away before and this gave the little bully more confidence to attack him without fear-until he poked the bear just a little too much.

[Drachen]

put yourself in the shoes of a teenage boy and with all the hormones and shit pumping through you, you not only have to deal with that but also some little shit punching you in the face and trying to show off to some other little shits who most likely have abused you too over the course of your adolescent life.

fuck that little shit, he got what he deserved whether or not it was administered in a more tamed manner.

don't fuck with the bull or you'll get the horns!

http://americancopywriter.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/breakfastclub7.jpg

I have been far too lazy with this report, but I had made a deal that if 20 more mins passed by and no one had posted this picture, that I would.

[Bender]

I'm not up in arms about big boy's response, overreaction or not, but shouldn't the ability to maintain one's composure in a stressful or antagonistic situation still be the goal?
If he maintained composure, or tried to just walk away, he would be picked on for the rest of the school year.

Now, maybe instead of the body slam, he could have put the kid in a headlock until he begged for mercy...

[pawe]

Why does it always have to be: retaliate with the same amount of force.
If I got punched, does that mean I should only punch back and wont get to kick him or slam him to the ground?
- You eliminate the threat as quickly and as effectively as you can.

"Oh this guy is punching me, my instincts are telling me to throat chop him then knock him out with a right hook to the jaw. But wait, what if his throat develops long term problems after this or his head might hit the concrete when I knock him out." - I bet no one thinks like this while they are on a fight.

Bully got lucky the fat kid restrained himself from stomping on his head. Now, that is composure. Knowing when to stop when the fight is over.

[baseline bum]

If he maintained composure, or tried to just walk away, he would be picked on for the rest of the school year.


Pretty much. Bullies are usually cowards who want no part of an actual fight, but love the idea of attacking people and not having to go on the defensive.



Now, maybe instead of the body slam, he could have put the kid in a headlock until he begged for mercy...

That would just be begging for his other 2 friends to jump in.

[TheNextGen]

Bully got lucky the fat kid restrained himself from stomping on his head. Now, that is composure. Knowing when to stop when the fight is over.

i agree with the pinoy....dhalsim is lucky zangief didnt stomp on his head.

[baseline bum]

i agree with the pinoy....dhalsim is lucky zangief didnt stomp on his head.

:rollin

Good one, Laker fan.

[ALVAREZ6]

I would ALMOST agree with you here except for one minor thing...

If anyone here has ever been punched in the face they will understand.

If you have ever experienced being punched in the face-it is very hard to react appropriately to every one's satisfaction.

You're punched, it stings, your eyes water, the adrenaline flows, your rage boils-or fear kicks in, among other body responses...responses that are usually not present in everyday dealings.

If you can still control your reactions and simply walk away-kudos to you, however, half of the witnesses will then be calling you a coward and you will probably be bullied even more. This kid probably had already walked away before and this gave the little bully more confidence to attack him without fear-until he poked the bear just a little too much.

Exactly. To add, the body slam sent a message.

CROFL, I can't believe people are still arguing stupid shit. It's nonsense to think he was out of control. IMO, the big kid's reaction was nearly perfect. It's not like he body slammed his upper body/neck/head area...he slammed him legs first, swung his body on an axis that sent his legs into the pavement first.

He did not do one more thing, and then walked away. Great reaction. Subdued the douche bag in a way that did not allow for the other potential bullies to jump in, or even want to jump in after seeing the quick yet extremely effective way to put an end to all of this bullying. It was soooo effective, and so immediate...definition of efficient.


A strong punch to the face from the larger kid, who weighs likely twice as much as the douche bag twerp, could have fucked the little one up in so many different ways...eye damage, broken nose, neck + head/brain damage/concussion due to initial strong punch impact and also the douche bag being sent backwards head-first into the concrete. Thinking conservatively, the punch response could potentially have done the same amount of negative damage as the body slam...and it's with more risk given the situation. Bigger kid is slower by definition, little, lighter bully who was already dancing around with agility could have dodged a few punches. He used his advantage to grapple and pound.


Another option would be to restrain the kid, but that would not send the message, do any damage to the kid, wouldn't likely end the bullying if the bully doesn't get hurt. Also to consider, the other friends could jump in to save him, also a bad option.




Bossman trill OG Casey responded nearly perfectly imo given all the circumstances...his age, persistence of the bullies, multiple bullies around, resolved the conflict immediately. Those of you that don't see this by now...IDK what to say.

[pawe]

Bully's mom speaks out.

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[ALVAREZ6]

"demonized disproportionately" says the mom about her son.


FUCK OFF. I hope this haunts him for a long ass time...and CROFL CROFL...it's the very own bully's fault (and his friends) for it being viral. THEY filmed it!!!!!!!!!!

fuckin love it

[PM5K]

I kind of agree with her. She owned up to the fact that her son fucked up, at least mostly. She did mention that the other kid was bigger and older, and that was clearly her sons fault for picking on the wrong kid, certainly not his fault for being bigger.

Having said that, it does kind of suck that instead of just having gotten his ass kicked, and being suspended, he has to potentially endure all of the rest of what the internet has brought on him, but that's the day and age we live in and you have to really think thrice before you do something, especially when one of your idiot friends is recording it.

[pawe]

She set up her son to fail the moment she named him RITCHARD. Who the fuck puts a T in Richard?

[ALVAREZ6]

I kind of agree with her. She owned up to the fact that her son fucked up, at least mostly. She did mention that the other kid was bigger and older, and that was clearly her sons fault for picking on the wrong kid, certainly not his fault for being bigger.

Having said that, it does kind of suck that instead of just having gotten his ass kicked, and being suspended, he has to potentially endure all of the rest of what the internet has brought on him, but that's the day and age we live in and you have to really think thrice before you do something, especially when one of your idiot friends is recording it.

shut up, no it doesn't.


it's awesome. THEY RECORDED IT THEMSELVES!!!! In attempt to get more humor out of the whole bullying!!! CROFL, talk about coming back to take a huge chomp on the ass. i love it.

[GoodOdor]

fat kid looks a bit like mookie tbh.

[ManuBalboa]

The kid getting up and hobbling around like a cripple is what makes this video so LOL. Camera phones, best. invention. ever.

[ManuBalboa]

I finally saw the video- while I understand the kid's frustration, his retaliation was not proportional to the taunting. He did not just punch the kid back; he picked him up and body slammed him onto concrete.

You would not be saying this if Casey put a bullet in his own head a couple years from now because the bullying finally got to him.


Besides, Aussies don't do proportional.
http://www.mediabistro.com/agencyspy/files/original/crocodile-dundee-screenshot-you-call-that-a-knife11.jpg

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Casey showed great restraint he took a good 4 blows before even reacting. After the body slam he even walked away when he had every right to stomp the punks head in.

[Stringer_Bell]

The bully got TWO clean shots at Lil Zangief, reacted to stop the aggression, then some other kid steps up Thunderdome style...yet he got in trouble. Policy is policy, but it isn't always the right thing.

Ya know, with all the anti-bullying stuff going on, you'd think kids would stop pulling shit. This is the future of the world, and they aren't learning from the mistakes of others.

[Halberto]

Ya know, with all the anti-bullying stuff going on, you'd think kids would stop pulling shit. This is the future of the world, and they aren't learning from the mistakes of others.


Bullying is all about who is the alpha male... can't exactly stop animal instincts from coming out.

[ALVAREZ6]

Bullying is all about who is the alpha male... can't exactly stop animal instincts from coming out.

It's more complex than that. People with mental disorders, things like race, sexuality, etc. are all super common motives, wouldn't you say?

[CubanSucks]

She set up her son to fail the moment she named him RITCHARD. Who the fuck puts a T in Richard?

One of the first things I thought since this thread was on page 1.

:lmao

best post in the thread

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Only way it coulda been better is if the skinny kid had a terminal fracture of his penis

[CubanSucks]

Is it any surprise that in the past two pages the two biggest critics of Casey's actions are female (CF and Ploto)? I'm not trolling when I say that it's so typical for girls to be naive when it comes to fighting and social humiliation and how they relate to hormones, especially testosterone and epinephrine. Bottom line, Casey showed GREAT restraint

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Because females are hardwired to nourish and care for the male penis

[ploto]

Is it any surprise that in the past two pages the two biggest critics of Casey's actions are female (CF and Ploto)? I'm not trolling when I say that it's so typical for girls to be naive when it comes to fighting and social humiliation and how they relate to hormones, especially testosterone and epinephrine.

Are you kidding me-- girls are far worse than boys when it comes to social humiliation.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

yeah, they whip each other's hair back an' forth

[ChuckD]

Is it any surprise that in the past two pages the two biggest critics of Casey's actions are female (CF and Ploto)? I'm not trolling when I say that it's so typical for girls to be naive when it comes to fighting and social humiliation and how they relate to hormones, especially testosterone and epinephrine. Bottom line, Casey showed GREAT restraint

They don't understand that this is how guys achieve group status in school. Girls do it different, by being bitchy and cliquey. Same process, different methodology.

It's a nice theory that he should have walked away, but it's worse if you do that, and the kid is smaller than you. He would have been punched, kicked, and slammed into lockers for the rest of the year. Now, he can walk the halls. Even that really tall kid that was fronting afterwards really didn't want any part of him. In that case, because he demonstrated what he could do, he COULD simply face him down, and then walk away.

[Stringer_Bell]

They don't understand that this is how guys achieve group status in school. Girls do it different, by being bitchy and cliquey. Same process, different methodology.

It's a nice theory that he should have walked away, but it's worse if you do that, and the kid is smaller than you. He would have been punched, kicked, and slammed into lockers for the rest of the year. Now, he can walk the halls. Even that really tall kid that was fronting afterwards really didn't want any part of him. In that case, because he demonstrated what he could do, he COULD simply face him down, and then walk away.

I think from a psychological standpoint, the whole "I can't back down from a smaller kid" mentality never entered the picture for the fat kid. He was taking punches, then reacted. Some of his body language actually shows a little shame in his actions, like he didn't want to do it. Really interesting. The showdown with the other kid at the end was really animalistic too, like the fat guy was like "muthafucka, you ain't worth my time" and calmly vanished into the night.

[ALVAREZ6]

The showdown with the other kid at the end was really animalistic too, like the fat guy was like "muthafucka, you ain't worth my time" and calmly vanished into the night.
:lol He did the other taller bully a big favor by walking away. CROFL at tall bully being a young dumbass thinking he has a shot simply because he's tall and not fat, doesn't know that at that age especially, body mass means everything and he would not stand a chance vs. OG Casey

[CubanSucks]

:lol He did the other taller bully a big favor by walking away. CROFL at tall bully being a young dumbass thinking he has a shot simply because he's tall and not fat, doesn't know that at that age especially, body mass means everything and he would not stand a chance vs. OG Casey

that piece of shit was the most annoying part of the video! He's just a fucking crony. Walks up to him and just stares at him like he's gonna do something, then waits till Casey walks off before moving any farther. That little cunt wasn't gonna do shit. The same type of person that'll pull the ol "HOLD ME BACK, BETTER HOLD ME BACK!" while praying in his mind that people actually will hold him back so he doesn't have to actually do anything

[CubanSucks]

http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/90830baa_519a_7e4d.png

[baseline bum]

LOL at the woman in the video saying he should have walked away. Someone starts shit at a bar, then yeah, walk; you never know if you'll get jumped by his 5 friends, stabbed, shot, or in the best case get sent to jail. At school though, no way he can back down. He'll see that same prick every single day and have to take the same punches over and over.

[CubanSucks]

http://www.caseyheynes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bang.jpg

:lmao there are so many good ones and they're on caseyheynes.com believe it or not!

http://www.caseyheynes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/dark_knight.jpg

[CubanSucks]

tbh if there were an alliance between Casey Heynes and Epic Beard Man, the two greatest meme generators ever known, they could literally stop terrorism world wide

[The Reckoning]

tbh if there were an alliance between Casey Heynes and Epic Beard Man, the two greatest meme generators ever known, they could literally stop terrorism world wide


tee hee youre so funny :lmao

[ploto]

They don't understand that this is how guys achieve group status in school. Girls do it different, by being bitchy and cliquey.

You must not have gone to the same middle school that I attended because there the vast majority of fights were between girls.

[CuckingFunt]

Is it any surprise that in the past two pages the two biggest critics of Casey's actions are female (CF and Ploto)? I'm not trolling when I say that it's so typical for girls to be naive when it comes to fighting and social humiliation and how they relate to hormones, especially testosterone and epinephrine. Bottom line, Casey showed GREAT restraint

Firstly, this is bullshit.

Secondly, if you actually paid attention to my comments, you'd notice that I said specifically I wasn't really referring to anything that happened in the video. I was referring to the comments posted in response. I could have made the same point in the thread about the guy who put a woman in a coma over a parking spot. In both cases, people attempted to justify a violent reaction with the suggestion that this stuff just happens in the heat of the moment. Again, I don't get how a lack of control became a viable excuse.

Do I expect, in either situation, for people to have the composure to just walk away from someone actively hitting them? Not necessarily. I've never been in a physical altercation (other than getting smacked by my mom when I was a kid), but I doubt sincerely that I'd be able to just walk away from someone provoking me in that way because I know I can have a bit of a temper. So, yeah, I get it. Doesn't mean I think it's the appropriate response, however. And certainly doesn't mean I think that losing one's temper serves as an excuse for such a response.

[CuckingFunt]

If he maintained composure, or tried to just walk away, he would be picked on for the rest of the school year.

I don't buy it. Not long term, at least. Bullies are looking for a response. Go long enough without giving them the response they're looking for, and they'll eventually move on to someone who will. It's part of the reason no one really fucked with me in middle/high school; I didn't get involved in drama, I didn't cry or throw a fit when being teased, and I generally made myself a boring target.

[CuckingFunt]

You must not have gone to the same middle school that I attended because there the vast majority of fights were between girls.

Same here. Guys didn't fight much on campus. Mostly just stare each other down and ask each other to bring it for five minutes before a couple punches were thrown and it was over. The girls were brutal, though. Earrings came off, weaves got tied up, and it was fucking on.

[TheManFromAcme]

Growing up as a military brat I spent the first month at every new school getting suspended for not taking shit off of the bullies who wanted to test the new kid. So it doesn't suprise me that the kid got suspended.

What does seem different from when I was growing up is that they say the parents of the little brat are seeking crimminal charges against the kid who just defended himself. My parents would have kicked my ass a second time for being a bully and then a 3rd time for being a stupid bully.

This. :tu

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Same here. Guys didn't fight much on campus. Mostly just stare each other down and ask each other to bring it for five minutes before a couple punches were thrown and it was over. The girls were brutal, though. Earrings came off, weaves got tied up, and it was fucking on.

Werd. I've said it a few times here but I come from a family of educators and all of them have said the same thing about fighters from ages 8-18. With guys 90% of the time it's more pride than anything else. No one wants to fight so much as there's no way to save face if you back down. So they face off and jaw at each other as long as they can but eventually someone has to make a move. With girls when it's time to throw down no one's stopping for anything and shit gets real violent real quick.

[Agloco]

I doubt anyone will be messing with him now anyway.

Fixed.

No kid who witnessed this will be ballsy enough to screw with him. That's a big boy.

[Agloco]

Firstly, this is bullshit.

Secondly, if you actually paid attention to my comments, you'd notice that I said specifically I wasn't really referring to anything that happened in the video. I was referring to the comments posted in response. I could have made the same point in the thread about the guy who put a woman in a coma over a parking spot. In both cases, people attempted to justify a violent reaction with the suggestion that this stuff just happens in the heat of the moment. Again, I don't get how a lack of control became a viable excuse.

Do I expect, in either situation, for people to have the composure to just walk away from someone actively hitting them? Not necessarily. I've never been in a physical altercation (other than getting smacked by my mom when I was a kid), but I doubt sincerely that I'd be able to just walk away from someone provoking me in that way because I know I can have a bit of a temper. So, yeah, I get it. Doesn't mean I think it's the appropriate response, however. And certainly doesn't mean I think that losing one's temper serves as an excuse for such a response.


I don't buy it. Not long term, at least. Bullies are looking for a response. Go long enough without giving them the response they're looking for, and they'll eventually move on to someone who will. It's part of the reason no one really fucked with me in middle/high school; I didn't get involved in drama, I didn't cry or throw a fit when being teased, and I generally made myself a boring target.


So, yeah, I get it.

Are you sure? Sympathy is not a substitute for empathy here.

[DPG21920]

It would be interesting to see if the women on here saying he reacted too violently because the kid was smal would say the same thing if they were being raped/mugged by a smaller man and a bigger man slammed the shit out of him even though he could have subdued him with more ease.

[monosylab1k]

lol what a stupid bitch

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident

maybe don't be such a shitty mother.

[monosylab1k]

It would be interesting to see if the women on here saying he reacted too violently because the kid was smal would say the same thing if they were being raped/mugged by a smaller man and a bigger man slammed the shit out of him even though he could have subdued him with more ease.

well according to them that's odd because everyone knows women are the real fighters in the world today. Men just stare each other down.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I don't buy it. Not long term, at least. Bullies are looking for a response. Go long enough without giving them the response they're looking for, and they'll eventually move on to someone who will. It's part of the reason no one really fucked with me in middle/high school; I didn't get involved in drama, I didn't cry or throw a fit when being teased, and I generally made myself a boring target.

No offense CF, but that is one load of crap right there. I've known kids who were bullied all through highschool even though they never responded. There are all kinds of bullies and sometimes just standing there and taking it is exactly what they're hoping you'll do.

Now, I understand you have your experiences and ideally the right scenario here would have been for the big kid to walk away, but I think that is being completely unrealistic.

I think we can all agree that body slamming the kid wasn't the best resolution, but I damn sure don't hold it against Casey. Society as a whole shouldn't be more concerned with finding out why kids like Casey lose control but rather why kids like that scrawny kid think treating others like that is acceptable.

and lastly, you have to admit, if you've never been in a physical altercation, you DON'T actually GET IT.

[Capt Bringdown]

Broken leg?

Neal with it.

[BruceBowenFan]

The only altercation i have been in was when i was at work, i know possibly the worst place for it to happen. I can honestly say without a doubt when people told me "you shouldnt have hit back" is bullshit, when someone hits you, your gonna hit back its human idgaf what anyone says, i for one applaud casey for doing for what he did. That little prick got what he deserved and the fact some of the people on this board are saying casey was wrong in the way he retaliated, have someone punch you in the face and lets see how you react. I guarantee you wont think about keeping composure.

[Cry Havoc]

No offense CF, but that is one load of crap right there. I've known kids who were bullied all through highschool even though they never responded. There are all kinds of bullies and sometimes just standing there and taking it is exactly what they're hoping you'll do.

Now, I understand you have your experiences and ideally the right scenario here would have been for the big kid to walk away, but I think that is being completely unrealistic.

I think we can all agree that body slamming the kid wasn't the best resolution, but I damn sure don't hold it against Casey. Society as a whole shouldn't be more concerned with finding out why kids like Casey lose control but rather why kids like that scrawny kid think treating others like that is acceptable.

and lastly, you have to admit, if you've never been in a physical altercation, you DON'T actually GET IT.

Yep.

Apparently CF has never seen the type of individual that enjoys causing other people pain. There's a good chance that if Casey turns and walks away, the kid follows him down the hallway, punching him the whole time. It's ludicrous to suggest that after weeks/months of dealing with that bullshit, presumably in the same fashion as he did for the first 3-4 punches, that they were going to stop anytime soon.

Some bullies hit other people because they know they won't hit back.

Also, trying to shoe-horn every bully into the same pattern of behavior or to say they're all looking for the same thing from their bullying is laughably ridiculous.

[koriwhat]

Yep.

Apparently CF has never seen the type of individual that enjoys causing other people pain. There's a good chance that if Casey turns and walks away, the kid follows him down the hallway, punching him the whole time. It's ludicrous to suggest that after weeks/months of dealing with that bullshit, presumably in the same fashion as he did for the first 3-4 punches, that they were going to stop anytime soon.

Some bullies hit other people because they know they won't hit back.

Also, trying to shoe-horn every bully into the same pattern of behavior or to say they're all looking for the same thing from their bullying is laughably ridiculous.

:tu


i was never bullied in school due to the fact that i was friends with some of the worst people at school. so when shit did hit the fan and some chump tried to get in my face, i'd have a couple bigger dudes i knew come to me and ask me to point those fools out and the matter was taken care of. plus, like you CF, i went about my days not being noticed per se.

i can tell you though, not all bullies are the same and just as CH pointed out, some will bully you right out of school.

also, the best solution is never the one mommy and daddy told you, "just walk away". the best solution is to stand up tall and don't back down! i believe in self-esteem, self-worth and if you don't have the self-esteem to stand up tall or the self-worth to stop the bs, then you deserve the pain.

at that boxing gym i was part of we had kids roll through there who thought they were the shit from the get go. those kids would bully the regulars for no good reason and when my instructor had enough of it, he'd pair those kids off. guess what happened? the bullies got beat the fuck down in the ring and finally learned their place.

i'm all for fighting as long as it's to prove you're not a pussy and you won't take no bs from anyone who sees you as a target.

[monosylab1k]

:lol more videos of bullies getting owned

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[CubanSucks]

You must not have gone to the same middle school that I attended because there the vast majority of fights were between girls.

:lol yeah, I've seen plenty of girl "fights" and while there's no denying that there are more girl fights, I've never seen anything but pulling the other girls head down by her hair while frantically hitting the top or back of the head. And no I'm not just talking about the fights between the preppy white girls, I'm talking about the fights between Big Rayneesha and Big Precious. Girls most definitely fight more but 99% of the time the only damage done is to the hair and nails

[resistanze]

Yep.

Some bullies hit other people because they know they won't hit back.

Yep. I'd be willing to say most.

[DarkReign]

I don't buy it. Not long term, at least. Bullies are looking for a response. Go long enough without giving them the response they're looking for, and they'll eventually move on to someone who will.

Sorry CF, this entire post is complete bullshit.

You, nor I, have been bullied. But I wasnt bullied because my response was always outrageously disproportionate to the attempt at bullying.

I knew more bullies than I care to admit, devious shit like shoving a popsicle, stick and all, up some poor kids nose on the playground then beating them to oblivion. Unprovoked all-out assaults on totally fearful prey, beating them into unconsciousness for no. damn. reason. at. all.

There is only one way to deal with a bully and thats to completely overreact with a disproportionate response that they'll never forget. The "bullied" will never have to worry about it ever again because that stuff resonates throughout the school in a hurry.

Much the same as a hungry lion wont even try to fell a water buffalo because the risk-reward ratio isnt right.

[Cry Havoc]

Sorry CF, this entire post is complete bullshit.

You, nor I, have been bullied. But I wasnt bullied because my response was always outrageously disproportionate to the attempt at bullying.

I knew more bullies than I care to admit, devious shit like shoving a popsicle, stick and all, up some poor kids nose on the playground then beating them to oblivion. Unprovoked all-out assaults on totally fearful prey, beating them into unconsciousness for no. damn. reason. at. all.

There is only one way to deal with a bully and thats to completely overreact with a disproportionate response that they'll never forget. The "bullied" will never have to worry about it ever again because that stuff resonates throughout the school in a hurry.

Much the same as a hungry lion wont even try to fell a water buffalo because the risk-reward ratio isnt right.

:tu The Ender Wiggin response.

[ALVAREZ6]

CROFL those vids are awesome, especially the last...fucks him while he's down

[CubanSucks]

:lol more videos of bullies getting owned

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the first one would've been the best if he finished him off, the second nearly made me jump out of my seat yelling "YES!" and the third I've already seen even on this site

[CubanSucks]

Why is youtube acting so butthurt over all the videos on this?! They've even taken down the joke versions of this. WHY?!

[pawe]

Because cyber bullying is not good. Just think about what Ritchard feels whenever he sees the videos. Poor boy.

[CubanSucks]

Because cyber bullying is not good. Just think about what Ritchard feels whenever he sees the videos. Poor boy.

:lol But in all seriousness, they decide to pick this one out and make it their mission to keep everything about it off youtube? Of all the shit that's on youtube, what the fuck stands out about this?!

[monosylab1k]

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[v2freak]

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"His black belt reflexes took over"

What a creative way to say "he threw the first punch"

[redzero]

"His black belt reflexes took over"

What a creative way to say "he threw the first punch"

Do you think he should have waited?

[Cry Havoc]

"His black belt reflexes took over"

What a creative way to say "he threw the first punch"

He ended the fight before it even started. He didn't seriously injure the other guy, just wounded his pride. Perfect strike, IMO.

[balli]

What a creative way to say "he threw the first punch"
When some crackhead fuckin' junkie fights out of his shirt, past a panicked prostitute to come to, I don't think the question of who threw the 'first punch' is really all that relevant. Dude needed to get knocked the fugg out. He pretty much did.

[SpursWoman]

My son (14) is head and shoulders taller than all but a handful of kids at his school and it's amazing to me how much the smaller boys like to talk a lot of shit to him to get him to react. And he's not a scrawny guy--or a sissy--either.

He's gotten a lot better at blowing them off than he was when he was younger, because it's never really been anything more than talk. I absolutely would support him for defending himself the best he would need to against violence, but encourage him to instead find an adult if at all possible.

Fighting in JISD will not only amount to suspensions, alternative school, expulsions and/or arrests ... but up to a $500 fine and a court appearance for the parents.


That being said, I would have paid the $500 fine for Casey. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Upon reading DRs post I reevaluated my position. I came from somewhere that if you didn't stand up for yourself the beatings would not only continue but they would get worse and you'd get all your shit jacked daily. You had to make it painful for them and if I could have body slamed them like Casey did then I would have so I can't knock the kid one bit in retrospect.

[ALVAREZ6]

My son (14) is head and shoulders taller than all but a handful of kids at his school and it's amazing to me how much the smaller boys like to talk a lot of shit to him to get him to react. And he's not a scrawny guy--or a sissy--either.

He's gotten a lot better at blowing them off than he was when he was younger, because it's never really been anything more than talk. I absolutely would support him for defending himself the best he would need to against violence, but encourage him to instead find an adult if at all possible.

Fighting in JISD will not only amount to suspensions, alternative school, expulsions and/or arrests ... but up to a $500 fine and a court appearance for the parents.


That being said, I would have paid the $500 fine for Casey. :lol

Then WTF is he being bullied for? There's ALWAYS some underlying reason, I highly doubt they just randomly chose him. Is he a douche bag?



lol, in all seriousness, what do you think is the most probable reason..or has your son told you why?

[PM5K]

That Casey kid would have no problems in prison, not that he's going there.

[mrsmaalox]

Can't read the whole thread, but as much as I despise and discourage violence of any kind, I think that what some are calling an overreaction, may very well have been the only thing that big kid could have done. I agree that bullies are just trying to evoke a reaction, but I don't agree that ignoring it makes the bully back down.

Having never been punched in the face, I can only assume that it can be disorienting to say the least. :lol Also never having punched another person, I have to assume that it takes a certain amount of skill and coordination to land an effective one. I personally would probably bypass the punch in favor of a more sure thing; that's what I think the big kid did. A poorly placed punch would have only been a sign of weakness and prolonged the bullying.

It's a shame they had to resort to violence, but I'd be surprised if it's an action the big boy will ever have to repeat again. And clearly the little runt needed to be knocked down a peg or 2 and ideally, will never need to be "reminded" :lol

[CubanSucks]

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[SpursWoman]

Then WTF is he being bullied for? There's ALWAYS some underlying reason, I highly doubt they just randomly chose him. Is he a douche bag?



lol, in all seriousness, what do you think is the most probable reason..or has your son told you why?


I've actually asked him if it was because he acted like a douche. :lol

He said no ... he's just a big white boy in a predominantly hispanic & black school, and that it happens with all the bigger guys. The little runts like Ritchard thinking they are all kinds of tough shit because they don't think they'll get a response. Fortunately, my son thinks they are all "retarded" and knows he could hurt them pretty badly if he wanted to. And he could ... that's shit that I know. There's also been a huge overall fighting problem at that school for the last couple of years, and I can't wait until next year when he's out of there.

It's a tough situation as a mother ... you don't want your son to be a big pussy, but you don't want him to get hurt/in serious trouble ... or seriously injure someone else, either.

[SpursWoman]

Fortunately, my son didn't have to do anything to one of the little fuckers. The boy got busted starting a fire in one of the bathrooms of their brand new building and has been expelled ... and is currently sitting in juvi.

[Lonny]

.. he's just a big white boy in a predominantly hispanic & black school,

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maybe u should move out of the ghetto