Mozilla Firefox 4

[Venti Quattro]

It's out... a big middle finger to all browsers out there :lmao

[Jt.ONE]

:greedy

[lefty]

Fuck Yeaaah....

[Venti Quattro]

Personas look much, much better than in Firefox 3. The design is just so fluid like clean water. :tu

[Cry Havoc]

Awesome. The new personas sound good.

[Muser]

It's much more fluid than 3 that's for sure.

[IronMexican]

I have a question before I update. Is it like the beta, where every tab shows up as a different window on the bottom for Windows 7? It's extremely annoying.

[Venti Quattro]

Absolutely not.

[IronMexican]

K. Updated. Going to take some getting used to, by having the tabs on the top.

[Venti Quattro]

Ya me too. I have to practice precise mouse-clicking. I put the taskbar on the top because have a dock below and I'm irritated with the taskbar on the sides.

[CuckingFunt]

Feel like I need to do a bit of tweaking/customizing to get the new version just the way I want it, but so far no complaints.

Having the tabs on top can be toggled on and off, incidentally. I'm keeping them there because I like how clean it is, but it will definitely take some getting used to.

[IronMexican]

It feels exactly like Chrome. Whatever.

[baseline bum]

I wonder if it still hogs memory after closing tabs like FF3 does.

[lefty]

Damn it's good so far

[ace3g]

have to get use to refresh button being next to url bar; already changed the tabs back to the bottom

[lefty]

have to get use to refresh button being next to url bar; already changed the tabs back to the bottom
+1

[MannyIsGod]

Better than Chrome?

[Muser]

Better than Chrome?

Honestly I don't think so.

[vander]

chrome is shit :ihit

fuck google!

[Cry Havoc]

chrome is shit :ihit

fuck google!

:pop:

[IronMexican]

lol Illinois winning.

[IronMaxipad]

Have Firefox4, IE9, and Chrome10 installed.

Still prefer chrome.

[ace3g]

figured out how to move the refresh button to the left side

right click anywhere on the toolbar area of FF > Customize > drag buttons to left side

plus right click toolbar > uncheck tabs on top if you want tabs on the bottom

[Dr. Gonzo]

It looks really strange. I don't know if I like it yet over Chrome.

[velik_m]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5551404638_9569b6d798_z.jpg

http://fredericiana.com/2011/03/22/the-return-of-from-redmond-with-love/

[Creepn]

Sure that cake is safe for FireFox developers to eat?

[TinTin]

I miss my noia theme :(

[DJ Mbenga]

sucks i dont have screengrab. to capture some of the crazy shit on this site. at least downthemall still works. this is basically chrome.

[Drachen]

sucks i dont have screengrab. to capture some of the crazy shit on this site. at least downthemall still works. this is basically chrome.

If you use windows vista or 7, click your start button and search "snipping tool".


Your welcome!

[Cry Havoc]

sucks i dont have screengrab. to capture some of the crazy shit on this site. at least downthemall still works. this is basically chrome.

Chrome + Firefox would be the ultimate browser, so I don't see how this is a bad thing.

[Venti Quattro]

http://glow.mozilla.org

[Cry Havoc]

That's amazing, VQ.

[Cry Havoc]

Wow.... it looks amazing.

[spurs_2108]

Just downloaded it. I knew something was wrong with the tabs being on the top. I changed it back to the bottom. Although having them on top does look cleaner for some reason.

[Cry Havoc]

Just downloaded it. I knew something was wrong with the tabs being on the top. I changed it back to the bottom. Although having them on top does look cleaner for some reason.

If you remove the "Menu Bar" it changes it into a single "Firefox" button. Then, with tabs on top, it looks cleaner because it is. It's giving you a lot of extra space in your browser to see the webpage. It really opens everything up, especially on a smaller laptop like my M11x, where real estate is scarce. Great addition by Firefox. :tu

Also, if you remove bookmarks (I don't use many), it REALLY changes the look. Two lines, one for tabs and the other for the awesome bar. Sweeeet.

[redzero]

So far, I'm having no problems with it. Swag to the maximum.

[Creepn]

You guys recommend any cool add-ons? Don't know why I never bothered with the addons until now. I'm really liking the Tab Scope add-on though.

[Cry Havoc]

You guys recommend any cool add-ons? Don't know why I never bothered with the addons until now. I'm really liking the Tab Scope add-on though.

Tab Mix Plus
Adblock Plus
Forecast Fox
Video Downloader (forget the actual name, will edit later)
Noscript
... more later

[lefty]

Just downloaded it. I knew something was wrong with the tabs being on the top. I changed it back to the bottom. Although having them on top does look cleaner for some reason.
I like the tabs on top

[lefty]

Tab Mix Plus
Adblock Plus
Forecast Fox
Video Downloader (forget the actual name, will edit later)
Noscript
... more later
Yup

I also like Search Cloudlet:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/search-cloudlet-for-google-yah/

[Slomo]

Looks pretty slick. The tabs on top will need some getting used to, but I like it.

Watched the "what's new" video and totally laughed at the explanation that the reason behind private browsing was shopping :lol

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go watch some shop picture...

[spurs_2108]

I don't know about yall but with the Firefox 3.xx I was able to open a new tab pretty easy. But now when I want to open a new tab It always seems to open in a new window instead of tab. I use to be able to open a new tab unconscionably. But now I'm catching my self actually having to look at "open in a new tab". I wonder If in the old browser "open in a new window" above 'open in a new tab" Any one feel the same way?

[resistanze]

I don't know about yall but with the Firefox 3.xx I was able to open a new tab pretty easy. But now when I want to open a new tab It always seems to open in a new window instead of tab. I use to be able to open a new tab unconscionably. But now I'm catching my self actually having to look at "open in a new tab". I wonder If in the old browser "open in a new window" above 'open in a new tab" Any one feel the same way?

This is 100% correct. I believe they have swapped the "open new window" and "open new tab" order in FF 4. You have to train yourself to not move the mouse down after right-clicking :lol

[leemajors]

This is 100% correct. I believe they have swapped the "open new window" and "open new tab" order in FF 4. You have to train yourself to not move the mouse down after right-clicking :lol

ctrl T always works best.

[resistanze]

ctrl T always works best.

That works well if you just want a new tab. I think he's referring to when you want to open a link in a new tab (e.g. opening this thread in a new tab while keeping Geek Zone tab open).

In this case, you can actually just hold CTRL when you click, which I'm trying to train myself to do. I still prefer the right-click for some odd reason.

[spurs_2108]

Glad I'm not the only one to notice! I was like WTF quit opening in a new window. I know ctrl works but like resistanze said If I want to open more than one thread in then window I use to right click "open in a new tab". I'm going to play around with the ctrl click.

[Creepn]

Yeah I'm a right click guy too but using those shortcut keyboard keys would make you so fast. When I was working tech support a few guys were master of the shortcuts and it was pretty impressive to see how fast they operated the computer.

[Venti Quattro]

You guys recommend any cool add-ons? Don't know why I never bothered with the addons until now. I'm really liking the Tab Scope add-on though.

Personas Plus (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/personas-plus/)
Search Preview (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/searchpreview/)
Colorzilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/colorzilla/)

[Nathan Explosion]

It looks like Mozilla when from doing their Safari thing (in the beginning) to doing their Chrome thing. The tabs on top is just like Chrome. It really doesn't matter to me either way. IE has done the same thing, but in the Microsoft ways, and completely bloated it and made the browser slower than Chrome or Firefox.

I like that you can customize the look up top, like in Chrome. I have the Despicable Me theme as I like the Minions.

All in all, I like that they streamlined it and made it much faster. It's now my backup browser replacing Safari (which never was as good as the Mac version of course) with IE a distant 4th still.

[ElNono]

I've been using it since beta 2 or something... was rocking back then... it's real nice

[Venti Quattro]

It looks like Mozilla when from doing their Safari thing (in the beginning) to doing their Chrome thing. The tabs on top is just like Chrome. It really doesn't matter to me either way. IE has done the same thing, but in the Microsoft ways, and completely bloated it and made the browser slower than Chrome or Firefox.

I like that you can customize the look up top, like in Chrome. I have the Despicable Me theme as I like the Minions.

All in all, I like that they streamlined it and made it much faster. It's now my backup browser replacing Safari (which never was as good as the Mac version of course) with IE a distant 4th still.

:lmao Safari. I use Mac Pro but I ain't touching that Safari

[Nathan Explosion]

:lmao Safari. I use Mac Pro but I ain't touching that Safari

When Firefox came out, it wasn't quite as fast as Safari. Firefox was more customizable, which was nice, but in the end, Safari was just quicker, which is the most important thing in my book. You can mock Safari all you want, but considering Firefox and Safari were derived from the same code, it wasn't hard to see where Mozilla got their inspiration from, just like now with the new version and Chrome.

[sinok]

but considering Firefox and Safari were derived from the same code

Quite a fail there...

The rendering engine of Safari (aka Webkit) has nothing in common with Firefox' engine. Webkit is a fork of KHTML, who is the rendering engine of the Koinqueror browser in linux (the KDE Webbrowser exactly). Nothing to do with Gecko.

[Slomo]

I don't know about yall but with the Firefox 3.xx I was able to open a new tab pretty easy. But now when I want to open a new tab It always seems to open in a new window instead of tab. I use to be able to open a new tab unconscionably. But now I'm catching my self actually having to look at "open in a new tab". I wonder If in the old browser "open in a new window" above 'open in a new tab" Any one feel the same way?

Click on the link with the middle button on your mouse (if it doesn't work, look at any special function you have associated with the middle button).

[Bender]

I d/l FF 4 yesterday. is it still RC, or is it final version? Now I can't go to some websites (for example, the parent portal on NEISD website, so I can check on my son's schoolwork and grades).

All I get with FF 4 is a message about aspx something....

[Venti Quattro]

There's another good thing about Firefox 4: website prompts are now just tab-local. It won't steal your whole browser. For example I wanted to post a pic on ST and I click the image button on the quick reply box, usually I need to have the link already because the prompt would steal the window. But now it's not the case.

[MannyIsGod]

When Firefox came out, it wasn't quite as fast as Safari. Firefox was more customizable, which was nice, but in the end, Safari was just quicker, which is the most important thing in my book. You can mock Safari all you want, but considering Firefox and Safari were derived from the same code, it wasn't hard to see where Mozilla got their inspiration from, just like now with the new version and Chrome.

Your apple love knows no bounds.

[leemajors]

Safari sucks.

[ALVAREZ6]

Chrome is still better

[Brutalis]

I use to run FF 3, then switched to Chrome cause it was faster and cleaner.

I just got FF 4 and it seems a little bit slower, and I can't find my bookmarks as easily. Chrome had them in one click. Other than that I don't see any difference.

[Brutalis]

Tab Mix Plus
Adblock Plus
Forecast Fox
Video Downloader (forget the actual name, will edit later)
Noscript
... more later

I don't understand Tab Mix. I closed a tab to test it and didn't get an open to reopen the closed tab. In fact I don't see anything about Tab Mix after enabling it.

[DieMrBond]

Just downloaded this today, am hoping to put it onto the misses computer so that she can stop complaining there her 150 tabs in 3 windows is making the computer slow... Maybe the memory management will be improved? *shrugs*

As others said, it looks pretty much exactly like Chrome. Interesting about the Tab Groups, will have to have a play around with this and see what the point is. I guess it could be good for hiding spurstalk whilst at work?

[Cry Havoc]

Quite a fail there...

The rendering engine of Safari (aka Webkit) has nothing in common with Firefox' engine. Webkit is a fork of KHTML, who is the rendering engine of the Koinqueror browser in linux (the KDE Webbrowser exactly). Nothing to do with Gecko.

:lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Just started using Tab Groups today. Pretty cool feature, but it needs to be smoother.

[Cry Havoc]

Otoh, it might be this crappy Dell computer I'm on. >_>

[MannyIsGod]

Still haven't tried it mainly because I'm very happy with Chrome and unless its way better I see no reason to switch. /shrug

[Cry Havoc]

Still haven't tried it mainly because I'm very happy with Chrome and unless its way better I see no reason to switch. /shrug

The main thing for me is tab management. Firefox uses around 260 megs of memory for 40 tabs, while Chrome uses 930. That's not as big of an issue on my desktop, but on my laptop and older machines it makes a big difference.

[ALVAREZ6]

Still haven't tried it mainly because I'm very happy with Chrome and unless its way better I see no reason to switch. /shrug

My thoughts.


Chrome is too flossy.

[MannyIsGod]

The main thing for me is tab management. Firefox uses around 260 megs of memory for 40 tabs, while Chrome uses 930. That's not as big of an issue on my desktop, but on my laptop and older machines it makes a big difference.

Can't say I've ever had 40 tabs open. 20 MAYBE when I'm researching but thats really pushing it too.

CH if you have 40 tabs open then your ADD is at an astonishing level. :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Can't say I've ever had 40 tabs open. 20 MAYBE when I'm researching but thats really pushing it too.

CH if you have 40 tabs open then your ADD is at an astonishing level. :lol

I second this. I can't think of a single instance where I would NEED 40 tabs open at a time.

[benefactor]

Still haven't tried it mainly because I'm very happy with Chrome and unless its way better I see no reason to switch. /shrug
:tu

I'm not bothering switching back unless someone gives me a really good reason. Chrome is the best browser I've ever used.

[Cry Havoc]

Can't say I've ever had 40 tabs open. 20 MAYBE when I'm researching but thats really pushing it too.

CH if you have 40 tabs open then your ADD is at an astonishing level. :lol

Well, my point was that if you do start to open up 10+ tabs, Firefox allocates memory much more efficiently than Chrome does. The 40 tabs is just something I saw in an online article for comparison's sake, but I will say that as things stand right now I have 22 tabs open. And this is at work. I surf to a website like SpursTalk or Reddit, I open all the links that look interesting so they load ahead of time, then I move to the next website and repeat the process. I end up with several videos that are worth watching, a few articles I want to read, some headlines that sound important or are relevant to my interests, a couple of comments on news stories or tech articles that are good for further information, and a few random/funny/interesting blog links or sites that I haven't been to before. It's the most efficient way I've found of utilizing multiple tabs. I think part of it as well is the fact that I hardly ever use my mouse while browsing... it's done almost all via keyboard commands. Keyboard shortcuts save an amazing amount of time while surfing. :tu It's not so much ADD, but a desire to learn and read as much as possible.

Tab groups is the goods, tbh. Makes sorting a lot easier.

[Venti Quattro]

I'm using Chrome right now because of Tweetdeck.

[ElNono]

I've been using Aurora 5.0a2 at home (FFox 5), and it's even quicker than 4. Very pleased with the speed on it. That said, if you use add-ons, stay away from it.

[Chris]

The smilies box that pops up when you post lags the hell out of my computer. Never happened before until I upgraded to 4.0.