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DeSPURado
09-23-2004, 02:49 AM
TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Japan has received intelligence indicating that North Korea may be preparing to test launch a short-range missile, an official said Thursday.

Information from spy satellites and radio waves has shown North Korea beefing up troops and equipment around missile launch bases, said Shigemi Terui, a spokesman at the prime minister's office.

The government has set up an emergency task-force team to help gather more information, Terui said.

The communist country test fired short-range anti-ship missiles into the ocean on several occasions last year during an international standoff over its nuclear weapons program.

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/09/22/nkorea.missile.ap/index.html)

Nbadan
09-23-2004, 03:33 AM
The communist country test fired short-range anti-ship missiles into the ocean on several occasions last year during an international standoff over its nuclear weapons program.

If you ask me, until North Korea has full ICBM's, I think these silkworm missiles fitted with a nuclear tip are a bigger threat to the U.S. than anything else in Kim's arsenal. Especailly since most Air Craft carriers are the size of small cities with full compliment of cruisers, battleships, supply ships..etc..etc..

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-23-2004, 03:42 AM
Well, we don't ask, so shut up

Nbadan
09-23-2004, 05:03 AM
Well, we don't ask

Although you may want to shut down free speech, like your kind did to Al-Jazeera in Iraq, talking politics is still constitutionally-protected in the good ole USA.

ClintSquint
09-23-2004, 05:31 AM
I'd say they are a much bigger threat than those WMD in Iraq.

Take 'em out.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:07 PM
I'd say they are a much bigger threat than those WMD in Iraq.Considering those in Korea actually exist, yes.

:spin

SpursWoman
09-23-2004, 06:10 PM
Take 'em out.





I'd be inclined to suggest that everyone that lives on the west coast migrate east before that route is considered.

SpursWoman
09-23-2004, 06:15 PM
Considering those in Korea actually exist, yes.




Invading Korea would be a waste of time, resources--financial and personnel-wise. Several foreign heads of state with close ties to the country say they have them, the top 3 intelligence agencies in the world say they have them, they've had them before, and their ruler is a nut case.

Yeah, bad idea. :)

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:19 PM
So the "world would be a safer place without him" argument doesn't work when it might be tougher to get him out.

Understood.
Invading Korea would be a waste of time, resources--financial and personnel-wise.Where have I heard that before?

Tommy Duncan
09-23-2004, 06:21 PM
*pulls up a chair*

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:21 PM
BTW, did we ever follow up on the big bang out there last week?

SpursWoman
09-23-2004, 06:25 PM
Sorry, I forgot the: [/whatever--if the liberals can say that about Iraq, then why shouldn't it apply to NKorea?]

Tommy Duncan
09-23-2004, 06:27 PM
*pops open an ice cold Shiner Bock*

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:44 PM
More the reverse actually.

SpursWoman
09-23-2004, 06:49 PM
"...but you said that................................and they were wrong"


People will bitch and get 'all righteously indingnated no matter what they decide to do or not do about Korea, trying to compare the situation to that in Iraq, and it'll happen, and it's not.

I thought what you had said was funny.

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:54 PM
I'm not terribly indignant, I just think a huge opportunity is being missed and has been missed in Korea because of a stalemate over the format of any talks. Any further delay only plays into lil Kim's hands unfortunately.

No easy answer, that's for sure.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-23-2004, 06:56 PM
like your kind did to Al-Jazeera in Iraq,

My kind?

Oh yeah, the ones who like Democracy, and hope it takes hold in the Middle East.

The ones who can put two and two together when Al Jazeera is going live to the scene of attacks on US troops before the attack takes place.

Carry on, "free speech". :rolleyes

ChumpDumper
09-23-2004, 06:58 PM
Oh yeah, the ones who like Democracy, and hope it takes hold in the Middle East.I hope it takes hold in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait too....

Tommy Duncan
09-23-2004, 08:44 PM
Perhaps Kim will always be a crazy fucker and will trick the ugly Americans again and again and again.

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 02:45 PM
I'm tellin' ya, we need to nuke'em.

Joe Chalupa
09-24-2004, 02:55 PM
Is there anybody you don't want to nuke?

LandSharkII
09-24-2004, 02:57 PM
Is there anybody you don't want to nuke?
Nuke France.

:gun

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 03:04 PM
Canada, but only because of prevailing wind currents.

Joe Chalupa
09-24-2004, 03:15 PM
Your "Nuke 'em" thinking is precisley why other countries feel the need to develop their own nuclear weapons.

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 03:31 PM
No it's not. They just want to be a member of the club.

Joe Chalupa
09-24-2004, 03:33 PM
As they have a right to do so...no?

Not that I want any more freakin' nukes on this planet.

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 03:36 PM
No, they don't. They're too unstable and, if you're ever to have total disarmament, you have to force those who don't have the weapon to quit seeking it.

Joe Chalupa
09-24-2004, 06:20 PM
In order to have total disarmament..wouldn't the countries who currently have nukes need to get rid of them?

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 06:32 PM
Well, that would be kind of stupid in light of people like the Ayatollah building them, now wouldn't it?

I'm certainly in favor of complete and total disarmament. But, not until we have two conditions.

1) No one that doesn't have them now be allowed to get them in the future; and

2) Everyone that has them now agree to a plan whereby disarmament can be satisfactorily verified to the other nations that will also be disarming.

And, in that order.

Joe Chalupa
09-24-2004, 06:54 PM
Makes sense to me...that is why it probably won't happen.

No way we give up our nukes.

Yonivore
09-24-2004, 07:59 PM
We will when we invent something better..which we are probably just about to do.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 12:26 PM
I'm tellin' ya, we need to nuke'em.Problem is, they can nuke us back. You get points for consistency though. Lil' Kim has stopped all the other boardhawks in their tracks.

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 12:29 PM
You turn up the pressure on them. The assumption that a 'hawk' position on NKorea is to nuke them is dumb.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 12:35 PM
What would you call a "nuke them" position then?

Dove-ish?

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 12:41 PM
It's not a representative hawk position on North Korea. Sure, you can find a few loons who advocate doing that. BFD.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 01:21 PM
It's not a representative hawk position on North Korea.Says you.

You speak for all hawks?

Yonivore
09-25-2004, 03:38 PM
I still say nuke 'em. China will only bitch until they realize we've pulled a thorn out of their side.

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 04:40 PM
Irrelevant. It is not a mainstream hawk view. Try again.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 04:44 PM
Could you link me to mainstreamnorthkoreaforeignpolicyhawkview.com?

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 04:58 PM
You obviously have a modem.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 05:18 PM
Irrelevant.

Show me the mainstream hawk view.

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 05:40 PM
I'm not going to do your work for you. You made the claim that the 'hawks' in this forum had backed off from a preemptive nuclear strike on North Korea with the implicit assumption that such a postion was what one would expect from a 'hawk.' Now provide the evidence.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 05:44 PM
Read your own sentence.
the 'hawks' in this forumI won't read it for you.

Tommy Duncan
09-25-2004, 05:49 PM
um no. You clearly understood the label 'hawk' to apply to American foreign policy views outside of this forum as indicated by your preceding comments.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2004, 05:52 PM
Lil' Kim has stopped all the other boardhawks in their tracks.RIF.