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Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 09:59 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-22/libya-no-fly-zone-debate-shows-republicans-now-officially-the-party-of-war/full/#

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:02 AM
But that is what has happened. In 2003, for example, to the delight of the Bush White House, William F. Buckley’s National Review published an article entitled, “Unpatriotic Conservatives.” The piece, as one can deduce, attempted to strip away not only the patriotism but the conservative bona fides of anyone who opposed, or even raised uncomfortable questions, about the invasions of Afghanistan or Iraq. Notable conservatives such as Patrick Buchanan and Robert D. Novak among others were labeled defeatists who were “appeasing enemies” and “at war with America.” Ironically Mr. Buckley himself later questioned the wisdom of Bush’s “surge” into Iraq in 2007; in response, operatives in the Bush White House made efforts to ban the father of the modern conservative movement from talk radio programs. When the respected conservative columnist, George Will, argued in opposition to President Obama’s surge in Afghanistan, he too found himself at the wrong end of the Republican Party’s loyalty enforcers. Peter Wehner, the former Bush aide and designated henchman for that administration, attacked Will—once a confidante of Ronald Reagan—for a “loss of nerve,” drawing parallels to the defeated Japanese aboard the USS Missouri in World War II and, in perhaps the cruelest blow, to liberal activist Michael Moore. Even the chairman of the party has not been immune to having his loyalty questioned, as evidenced by Bill Kristol’s demand last year that he do the “patriotic” thing and resign his post once he criticized the deployment of more Americans into Afghanistan. Gov. Haley Barbour, a longtime Republican luminary, also met the sting of Kristol’s “you are with us or you are a coward” worldview for questioning our military goals in Afghanistan. The governor was denounced by Kristol as an “irresponsible” panderer lacking foreign policy “seriousness.” (Did I mention that Mr. Kristol was once a promoter of Alan Keyes?) A few weeks ago, Glenn Beck came under attack for questioning our goals in Egypt, at least as Mr. Kristol sees them. The attack on Beck was entitled “Stand for Freedom,” the obvious implication being that if you don’t agree with Mr. Kristol you don’t believe in liberty, truth, justice, and the American way. Nice how that works, isn’t it? (I would not accuse Mr. Kristol of McCarthyite tactics, however, since that would be an insult to McCarthy.)

Blake
03-23-2011, 10:11 AM
Good read, imo.....some interesting stuff.....notably where he takes partial blame (credit?) to moving the party in that direction.

SnakeBoy
03-23-2011, 10:12 AM
Bill Kristol is a neocon? Thanks for the breaking news.

MannyIsGod
03-23-2011, 10:14 AM
Plenty of interventionists in the democratic party too.

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:14 AM
War is too important to be left to the public intellectuals.

George Gervin's Afro
03-23-2011, 10:25 AM
Well the GOP wants an exit strategy one day after it starts yet we still don't have one for Iraq..yet they have yet to clamor for one..

ManuBalboa
03-23-2011, 10:26 AM
There is a simple exit strategy. It's called Ron Paul.

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:34 AM
There is a simple exit strategy. It's called Ron Paul.

Paul roughly offers the conservatism of a Bob Taft, once thought of as Mr. Republican and the conservative alternative to Eisenhower. Not to mention that Paul's voting record in the House tends toward the middle of his fellow representatives, yet he is routinely painted as an extremist and/or lunatic, primarily by putative conservatives. Taft himself would probably be labeled as a 'RINO' today by the arbiters of all things conservative.

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:40 AM
Especially when one considers Taft's view of the rights of Americans of Japanese ancestry versus that of contemporary conservatives towards Muslim citizens.

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:56 AM
Of course, Taft did like to refer to himself as a liberal (in the classical sense.)

Marcus Bryant
03-23-2011, 10:58 AM
In the early 70s the Democrat party split in two, with the Hawk wing going to roost in the GOP.