Rummpd
03-23-2011, 11:20 PM
Last year Manu had a higher PER than Bryant (both behind Wade) and may surpass him (23.82 Bryant and Manu at 22.35 again this year and also has a higher TS%, 0.548 >0.548
Bryant is rightfully considered the better player but the difference once again not as great as LAL fans and the media makes it when Manu healthy and playing close to the same minutes (Bryant outscores Manu about 25 to 18 but takes about 4 shots more a game in about 3 minutes more a game)!
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg/year/2010
2009-10 Wade> Manu than Bryant in PER
if you average there two years they are about the same exactly, again, Bryant the superior player but not by a lot statistically or in any other meaningful regard and Manu not Bryant has the longrange clutch 5 year stats factor down:
Not only is Ginobili the new Batman, he's also Mr. Clutch. His shooting percentage isn't that great, but he's at the top of the list because he gets to the line often and makes his free throws when he does
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/11/05/clutch.numbersgame/index.html
Meanwhile as ESPN's Mr. Abbott reiterated K. Bryant is vastly over-rated for his end of game play:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time
No matter how you define crunch time -- from the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime to the last 24 seconds -- and no matter how you define production -- field goal percentage, offensive efficiency, David Berri's Wins Produced, the results tell the same story: Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player.
ESPN Stats & Information's Alok Pattani dug through 15 years of NBA data (see table below) -- Bryant's entire career, regular season and playoffs -- and found that Bryant has attempted 115 shots in the final 24 seconds of a game in which the Lakers were tied or trailed by two or fewer points. He connected on 36, and missed 79 times.
One shot for all the cookies. And the NBA is nearly unanimous that this is the guy to take it, even though he has more than twice as many misses as makes?
His crunch-time production is slightly higher in the first half of this season, but still certainly not the best in the league. And analyzing any large number of games, one year, five years or 15 years, and defining crunch time a number of different ways, shows the same pattern. (There are many ways this has been sliced.)
Bryant shoots more than most, passes less and racks up misses at an all-time rate.
Bryant is rightfully considered the better player but the difference once again not as great as LAL fans and the media makes it when Manu healthy and playing close to the same minutes (Bryant outscores Manu about 25 to 18 but takes about 4 shots more a game in about 3 minutes more a game)!
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg/year/2010
2009-10 Wade> Manu than Bryant in PER
if you average there two years they are about the same exactly, again, Bryant the superior player but not by a lot statistically or in any other meaningful regard and Manu not Bryant has the longrange clutch 5 year stats factor down:
Not only is Ginobili the new Batman, he's also Mr. Clutch. His shooting percentage isn't that great, but he's at the top of the list because he gets to the line often and makes his free throws when he does
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/11/05/clutch.numbersgame/index.html
Meanwhile as ESPN's Mr. Abbott reiterated K. Bryant is vastly over-rated for his end of game play:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time
No matter how you define crunch time -- from the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime to the last 24 seconds -- and no matter how you define production -- field goal percentage, offensive efficiency, David Berri's Wins Produced, the results tell the same story: Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player.
ESPN Stats & Information's Alok Pattani dug through 15 years of NBA data (see table below) -- Bryant's entire career, regular season and playoffs -- and found that Bryant has attempted 115 shots in the final 24 seconds of a game in which the Lakers were tied or trailed by two or fewer points. He connected on 36, and missed 79 times.
One shot for all the cookies. And the NBA is nearly unanimous that this is the guy to take it, even though he has more than twice as many misses as makes?
His crunch-time production is slightly higher in the first half of this season, but still certainly not the best in the league. And analyzing any large number of games, one year, five years or 15 years, and defining crunch time a number of different ways, shows the same pattern. (There are many ways this has been sliced.)
Bryant shoots more than most, passes less and racks up misses at an all-time rate.