The San Antonio Spurs have signed Da'Sean Butler.

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The San Antonio Spurs have signed Da'Sean Butler.
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[boutons_deux]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27Sean_Butler

[ace3g]

looks like he will be wearing #1

[tuncaboylu]

A good news. Hopw he can fit till play-offs

[Dr Cox]

unless i heard wrong, he can play until the playoffs ...right?

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Butler worked out for several other teams before joining Spurs. He's eligible to play in the postseason. Low risk, high reward move for S.A.

[Mel_13]

He can play in the playoffs. Probably won't, but he is eligible.

[boutons_deux]

We'll see if he can come back enough from the knee injury.

Pop can't possibly want him, won't play him, for this season.

[I. Hustle]

How is he eligible

[Ditty]

Great pickup I love this move, guy was supposed to be a 1st round pick this year, I don't expect him to make much of an impact this year but for next year and the future he can be a solid 3 besides just shoot which he was one of the best shooters in college along side james anderson. Kinda makes up for the brewer signing with the mavs a little.

[Mugen]

good guy to bring in for training camp next season.

[Dr Cox]

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[loveforthegame]

Great news. Hopefully we can see what he's got before the playoffs start. Not expecting much but it would be nice to get a glimpse.

If nothing else, it's a low risk/high reward type of signing for possibly next season.

[ChumpDumper]

How is he eligibleHow would he not be?

[Kori Ellis]

How is he eligible
Because he hasn't played on another NBA team this year.

[Mel_13]

How is he eligible

He was waived by his previous team (Miami) before March 1st, thus he is eligible.

[toki9]

How is he eligible

I think it's because he hasn't played an NBA game all year, so he's playoff eligible for any team he signs with, even upto the end of the season.

[Kori Ellis]

Like a good neighbor State Farm is there.....!!!!! w/ a new job! Everybody I'm a #Spur :) #winning about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

TheDaSeanButler
http://twitter.com/TheDaSeanButler/status/51315111549345792

[toki9]

But practically speaking, he's more like the Spurs' extra draft pick for next year...I'd be shocked if he sees material playing time for Pop...I mean, the guy won't even play Anderson (who should know the system better)...

[toki9]

Like a good neighbor State Farm is there.....!!!!! w/ a new job! Everybody I'm a #Spur :) #winning about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

TheDaSeanButler
http://twitter.com/TheDaSeanButler/status/51315111549345792

He has a sense of humor...good...

[SenorSpur]

Wow. Surprising signing, but could be one that reaps substantial rewards.

Now, a couple of questions.

As others have already expressed, would Pop even play the guy?
Is this strictly an end-of-the-year move? Or is it a signing with an eye on the future?

[Kori Ellis]

By signing him now, they probably have an unguaranteed option on him for next year.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude hasn't played in a full year. I don't see him in the playoff rotation

He might suit up for a game, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is quickly assigned to Austin to finish out their season.

[mando6599]

Jeff McDonald
Spurs indeed to sign DaSean Butler, but not expected to play for them this year while finishing rehab on knee.

[Muser]

Wow. Surprising signing, but could be one that reaps substantial rewards.

Now, a couple of questions.

As others have already expressed, would Pop even play the guy?
Is this strictly an end-of-the-year move? Or is it a signing with an eye on the future?

I highly doubt Pop will give him any more than garbage minutes if he even gets on the active roster, must be a possible guy for the future.

[ChumpDumper]

Jeff McDonald
Spurs indeed to sign DaSean Butler, but not expected to play for them this year while finishing rehab on knee.....or maybe not even play until summer league....

[Mel_13]

Wow. Surprising signing, but could be one that reaps substantial rewards.

Now, a couple of questions.

As others have already expressed, would Pop even play the guy?
Is this strictly an end-of-the-year move? Or is it a signing with an eye on the future?


He's no better than the 7th man in a 5-man perimeter player rotation right now, perhaps 8th or 9th. So we won't see Butler in anything other than a cameo appearance this season.

[ace3g]

Spurs to sign former Mountaineer Butler

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/25/spurs-to-sign-former-mountaineer-butler/

[Budkin]

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%40theDaseanbutler

Check out the comments of all his twitter followers talking about how "I just became a Spurs fan!" :lol

[TD 21]

Good signing. I don't know that it's necessarily high reward, but it's low risk with a potential reward, in the sense that he could turn out to be a rotation player and they just got him for free basically. As toki9 said, it's essentially an extra first round pick and it gives them another asset.

Zero chance he plays this season. SF just went from the shallowest position on the team to as deep as any (although, not in rotation players). This is strictly a move for the future. I wouldn't be shocked if they guaranteed him through next season, but that would be dependent on how confident they are in his knee going forward.

[tdunk21]

Since Da'Sean Butler's Final Four injury in April, Outside the Lines' David Amber has documented Butler's life.

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[tmtcsc]

Oh Yeah ! I remember him and that play. His coach was down on the floor by Butler's ear giving him words of encouragement. They list him at 6'8 but he seems shorter than that.

[tdunk21]

fgsh0cu9ska

[Strategic]

Is Bob Huggins still laying on him?

[mando6599]

Since Da'Sean Butler's Final Four injury in April, Outside the Lines' David Amber has documented Butler's life.

sSqgXgEVmQQ

I just watched this and wow, he's been through a lot with this knee.

On a side note, it almost sounds as if you can hear his knee pop in that video, but probably not.

[SenorSpur]

I like the move. With Da'Sean Butler and Danny Green on board, the SF position just got much stronger and deeper. This should make for a very spirited competition in next year's summer league and training camp. This gives the Spurs some position flexibility, along with having another asset.

Now unless somehow Chris Singleton is available at pick #30 for the Spurs, this should free them up to focus on selecting the best value big man available, at the end of the first round of the June NBA draft.

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, Green is a marginal NBA player and Butler is a question mark. Potential depth, maybe, but nothing for sure.

[Juggity]

I like what I see from him so far :tu even if he gets almost no playing time, particularly in the playoffs, I'm glad the front office is at least making moves now.

[ace3g]

spurs San Antonio Spurs
The Spurs today announced the signing of forward Da'Sean Butler: http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/110325_butler.html

[SenorSpur]

Since Da'Sean Butler's Final Four injury in April, Outside the Lines' David Amber has documented Butler's life.

sSqgXgEVmQQ

Good stuff. Loved the interview. This is the kind of kid the Spurs look for. High basketball IQ, determined, looking to prove something, possible chip on his shoulder.

Thanks for posting.

[Dr Cox]

.exciting news!

[PDXSpursFan]

Smart move. The Spurs will soon clinch the #1 seed and there will be PT for him in a couple of meaningless games wher we will be resting 2-3 starters

[EricB]

Gotta wonder if Anderson or Neal will be used as trade bait in the offseason...

[duncan228]

Spurs sign Da’Sean Butler (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/)
by Graydon Gordian
48 Minutes of Hell

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...This is a smart move simply because it has no downside. Butler was a brilliant player in college whose draft stock plummeted after he suffered the injury shown above, which I found to be one of the more tragic and moving scenes I’ve ever witnessed on a basketball court. If Butler, who is still rehabbing his torn ACL, can eventually recapture any semblance of that brilliance, this will have been a worthwhile signing. In all likelihood, he won’t have a huge impact but there’s practically no risk involved. Any way you look at it, it’s a good signing.

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/spurs-sign-dasean-butler

[PhingerRoll]

Gotta wonder if Anderson or Neal will be used as trade bait in the offseason...

Our front office is way to fuckin smart for that. Neal is under contract for two more years at a bargain and Anderson hasn't really done enough since returning from injury to warrant the interest of other teams, plus he is young and talented and signed at a bargain. Why would we even entertain trading either of the rooks?

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Butler signing official. Typical under-the-radar Spurs move. Won't play this year, but could be nice pickup for future if his knee is OK.

MaxSportsSA Maximum Sports
Spurs sign forward Da'Sean Butler. He will be placed on inactive list as he continues rehab from torn ACL suffered in last year's Final 4.

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
One other thing on Butler: Spurs haven't ruled out letting him play a few games in Austin after rehab complete.

[hsxvvd]

Love this signing. He's a winner... A lot like Blair in terms of heart and hustle. We should have drafted him, but this is even better, we don't need to waste our time or money on the rehab... Thanks Miami

[in2deep]

Dick Jefferson's days are numbered

[wildbill2u]

Draft Express has a good article on him after his injury--and before last year's draft. If you read further down, they analyze his game.

Not too athletic or speedy before the injury so you can look at his rehabbed ACL in two ways. (1) He may be worse if his ACL hasn't come around or (2) since he didn't depend on speed or mobility or jumping ability anyway, a normal recovery may put him back at the top of his game before the injury.

Just to see what he's got left, Pop may give him some minutes after we clinch before the playoffs since Pop won't want to have any of the vets risk injury. I doubt he gets into a game in the playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
One other thing on Butler: Spurs haven't ruled out letting him play a few games in Austin after rehab complete.There's like a week left in the season. Better hurry.

[DesignatedT]

Gotta wonder if Anderson or Neal will be used as trade bait in the offseason...

What about Hill?

[ChumpDumper]

toros are a curse .... see malik ian anderson geeYeah, they all would have been all-stars.

[JonNOKC]

I thought in a different article he was working out for teams and was already done with rehab - it has been a full year now - hopefully we can see him a couple games in Austin just to get an idea where hes at physically

[DesignatedT]

Yeah, they all would have been all-stars.

:lol

[phxspurfan]

Damn, I don't remember that moment but I hope it works out for this kid. That was some Willis McGahee stuff right there.

[ChumpDumper]

fag anderson would be top 2 rookie of the year .....lol why did you call Anderson a fag? He was injured playing for the Spurs tbh.

malik was supposed the be the sf of the futureAccording to whom?

malik >>>>>> rjlol rocketfan lakerfan

[baseline bum]

Nice to get a first round talent for nothing.

[GabeIsGone]

What about Hill?

I'd be down to trade him for a PG of equal value, we already got SG covered with Neal and Anderson.

[Bruno]

Props to ace3g for bringing the idea of signing him.

I really like this signing. Spurs had no need for this year so getting a player with next year in sight was the right move. Da'Sean Butler looks more intriguing that some random D-Leaguer Spurs could have signed.

BTW, an healthy Butler could be better than what is available at #30 in this year draft. :smokin

[DontStopBelieving]

My father and I sat in R.C. Bufords box during the Bobcats vs. Spurs game



De'Sean was there talking to R.C. about signing.


Cool stuff to see it actually go through.

tbh

[PhingerRoll]

I'd be down to trade him for a PG of equal value, we already got SG covered with Neal and Anderson.

We can't go trading our best on-ball defender.. Also, I believe we have him signed pretty cheap (not sure on his contract), so the value is in keeping him. Equally important is the chemistry factor. Why does everyone want to start messing up team chemistry by trading away all our young talent that we have signed on the cheap?

We are stockpiling young talent, which is evidenced in the Butler signing (winning!). So in summation, no, we shouldn't and won't be looking to deal Anderson, Neal, and or GHill.

[Obstructed_View]

fag anderson would be top 2 rookie of the year .....
malik was supposed the be the sf of the future
malik >>>>>> rj
toros = curse

Biggest Hairston defender ever says "lol".

[I. Hustle]

He's 6'7"? The Spurs finally picked up another center!!! Lol

[PhingerRoll]

Small Forward hasn't exactly been a strong suit for us. The risk vs. potential reward is fantastic. Kid was a helluva college player for sure...

[Darkwaters]

Interesting signing. A lot of people wanted to draft him late in the 2nd this last year and hold him for a season (where we got Richards instead). In the end it would seem they get their wish as he'll be available for summer league and camp as well. Should be an interesting crew next year with a variety of journeymen and youth at the 2/3.

Hill
Ginobili
Jefferson
Neal
Anderson
Novak (3/4)
Butler
Green

[Mal]

Great signing. I guess RC got him cheap. He is a great guy.

[jjktkk]

Great sigining for the future. Tough minded kid that played for a tough coach in college.

[SenorSpur]

Dick Jefferson's days are numbered

Based upon the declining production we're seeing from him, I wonder.

[SenorSpur]

Gotta wonder if Anderson or Neal will be used as trade bait in the offseason...

Shouldn't affect either of them at all. Butler is still an unknown. Anderson and Neal look like pretty solid additions - obviously Neal more than Anderson - at this point. It's gonna be interesting to watch this all play out though.

[Strategic]

It appears as thought the Front Office has heard all of the youth moment cries for the Spurs world.

1 Tiago Splitter
2 Ryan Richards
3 DeJuan Blair
4 James Anderson
5 George Hill
6 Gary Neal
7 Danny Green
8 De'Sean Butler
9 Chris Quinn (that's right)

That is some size and talent to sustain and build with.

Parker, Bonner, Jefferson and Novak should all have 3 to 6 years left.
Duncan, Ginobili and McDyess 2 to 3 years left.

Now I just wonder how many of these guys will still be Spurs in three years?


:flag::wakeup:flag::wakeup:flag:

[Budkin]

Gotta wonder if Anderson or Neal will be used as trade bait in the offseason...

Neal? No way. Maybe JA.

[4>0rings]

Awesome signing. If his knee can hold up, this is another gem for the Spurs FO.

[timtonymanu]

Great pickup. The Spurs have potential depth at the SF position now with Jefferson, Anderson, Green, Butler, and maybe Hairston (if he's still under their radar). Training camp will be very interesting.

[nkdlunch]

my knee hurts

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Guys i like this signing too, but for the love of the spurs gods tap the brakes with the possible roster, depth charts for next year. Its not even april, no need to plague the forum with that crap this early.

[LakerHater]

Butler is a 6-7 small forward and the Spurs say he'll be placed on the inactive list.

[rjv]

since we have guys who can play even without knee ligaments why not take a chance ?

[E-RockWill]

Props to ace3g for bringing the idea of signing him.

I really like this signing. Spurs had no need for this year so getting a player with next year in sight was the right move. Da'Sean Butler looks more intriguing that some random D-Leaguer Spurs could have signed.

BTW, an healthy Butler could be better than what is available at #30 in this year draft. :smokin

This...:toast


He's 6'7"? The Spurs finally picked up another center!!! Lol

:rollin


It appears as thought the Front Office has heard all of the youth moment cries for the Spurs world.

1 Tiago Splitter
2 Ryan Richards
3 DeJuan Blair
4 James Anderson
5 George Hill
6 Gary Neal
7 Danny Green
8 De'Sean Butler
9 Chris Quinn (that's right)

That is some size and talent to sustain and build with.

Parker, Bonner, Jefferson and Novak should all have 3 to 6 years left.
Duncan, Ginobili and McDyess 2 to 3 years left.

Now I just wonder how many of these guys will still be Spurs in three years?


:flag::wakeup:flag::wakeup:flag:

That's the shizzle right there...

I'm interested in the contract details for some of those...

[Mel_13]

I'm interested in the contract details for some of those...


Not yet updated for Novak, Green, and Butler, but best source for that info:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/spurs.jsp

[E-RockWill]

Not yet updated for Novak, Green, and Butler, but best source for that info:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/spurs.jsp

:toast

[TD 21]

We can't go trading our best on-ball defender.. Also, I believe we have him signed pretty cheap (not sure on his contract), so the value is in keeping him. Equally important is the chemistry factor. Why does everyone want to start messing up team chemistry by trading away all our young talent that we have signed on the cheap?

We are stockpiling young talent, which is evidenced in the Butler signing (winning!). So in summation, no, we shouldn't and won't be looking to deal Anderson, Neal, and or GHill.

It's not about wanting/looking to, it's about (if Butler get's back to where he was pre-injury and shows he's got back end rotation player potential) now potentially having the depth to do that. Between Ginobili, Jefferson, Hill, Neal, Anderson and Butler, the Spurs would be over stocked with quality depth on the wings (plus, not that these players qualify as quality depth, but they still have Green, could bring back Hairston and if the best player available at 30 is a wing, I presume they'd take them, so there's the potential that they could have another useful wing waiting in the wings).

If a second big, who could be a good fit, is available via trade, between Blair, Anderson, McDyess' expiring contract and their 1st round pick, the Spurs potentially now have enough assets to be able to acquire that type of player, without decimating their depth.

As much as I like Anderson's potential and think he's a good fit, if Neal continues playing this well, there's not going to be rotation minutes available in the near future, unless the Spurs expand to the rare ten man rotation next season. Short of that, the only wing who's minutes they'd probably like to slightly cut back, is Ginobili, but say he drops 1-2 minutes next season, that probably just goes to Neal. Anderson might just be superfluous and more of a luxury than a necessity.

[bigdog]

Could be a huge steal, if/when he gets healthy. I don't really see it as affecting Anderson or Neal at all.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
R.C. Buford on Da'Sean Butler (via @M_Monroe_in_SA): “This signing has absolutely nothing to do with the 2010-11 roster.” #spurs

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
More on Butler from R.C.: “I’d imagine he will be assigned to Austin soon. We need to get an understanding of his situation." #spurs

[Drewlius]

I love it, the outside the lines video was pretty good, seems personable, and coach-able. Could potentially have a ton of upside for us, can't wait for summer league.

[PhingerRoll]

It's not about wanting/looking to, it's about (if Butler get's back to where he was pre-injury and shows he's got back end rotation player potential) now potentially having the depth to do that. Between Ginobili, Jefferson, Hill, Neal, Anderson and Butler, the Spurs would be over stocked with quality depth on the wings (plus, not that these players qualify as quality depth, but they still have Green, could bring back Hairston and if the best player available at 30 is a wing, I presume they'd take them, so there's the potential that they could have another useful wing waiting in the wings).

If a second big, who could be a good fit, is available via trade, between Blair, Anderson, McDyess' expiring contract and their 1st round pick, the Spurs potentially now have enough assets to be able to acquire that type of player, without decimating their depth.

As much as I like Anderson's potential and think he's a good fit, if Neal continues playing this well, there's not going to be rotation minutes available in the near future, unless the Spurs expand to the rare ten man rotation next season. Short of that, the only wing who's minutes they'd probably like to slightly cut back, is Ginobili, but say he drops 1-2 minutes next season, that probably just goes to Neal. Anderson might just be superfluous and more of a luxury than a necessity.

I hear that point, I just don't see what we could get that would be a better value than Anderson. It's not like he has done enough to have front offices climbing over each other in line to get him. If we trade him it would be more of a "giving up on a player" scenario and we are in no way in that situation with him.

[Obstructed_View]

That video of his injury still gets me.

[LakerHater]

Could be a huge steal, if/when he gets healthy.
Exactly, he was projected to be a top pick till he blew out his knee @ WV!

[Darkwaters]

I'm curious why Miami drafted him, knowing he wouldn't be playing anytime soon, and then proceeded to cut him before the season. It's not like he played his way out of the rotation - he didn't play at all.

[TD 21]

I hear that point, I just don't see what we could get that would be a better value than Anderson. It's not like he has done enough to have front offices climbing over each other in line to get him. If we trade him it would be more of a "giving up on a player" scenario and we are in no way in that situation with him.

If not in a package deal for a second big, then maybe a straight up trade for another young player on his rookie deal, who's not getting a lot of playing time. Maybe someone projected to be late lottery falls to around twenty, they could offer Anderson and their 1st to move up. The point is, it gives the Spurs options, without worrying about decimating their depth. It's not about giving up on him, it's about having the depth, with Neal's emergence and Butler's signing (again, if they're confident/he shows flashes indicating he's going to become what he was projected to become), to fill a hole elsewhere.

Based on their comments, it sounds like Butler is guaranteed for next season. As I suspected. It makes sense, because they're not going to get anything out of him this season. Although, since the guarantee was probably fairly minimal, if they're really underwhelmed with him between now and the start of next season and confident in their depth on the wings, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to cut him. I don't expect that to happen, though.

[8FOR!3]

This is so fucking awesome, I'm a big Da'Sean Butler fan.

[SenorSpur]

It appears as thought the Front Office has heard all of the youth moment cries for the Spurs world.

1 Tiago Splitter
2 Ryan Richards
3 DeJuan Blair
4 James Anderson
5 George Hill
6 Gary Neal
7 Danny Green
8 De'Sean Butler
9 Chris Quinn (that's right)

That is some size and talent to sustain and build with.

Parker, Bonner, Jefferson and Novak should all have 3 to 6 years left.
Duncan, Ginobili and McDyess 2 to 3 years left.

Now I just wonder how many of these guys will still be Spurs in three years?


:flag::wakeup:flag::wakeup:flag:

Good signing and I agree for the most part.

However, the roster still needs some size. Duncan shouldn't have to continue as the lone rim-protector, best rebounder, best interior defender and best low-post scorer. Another big to help offload even a portion of those responsibilities is needed.

[tdunk21]

Butler is a 6-7 small forward and the Spurs say he'll be placed on the inactive list.

wiki listed him as 6'8 234 lbs

[tdunk21]

This is so fucking awesome, I'm a big Da'Sean Butler fan.

cool..then u might be able to tell us all his strengths and weakness....

[Thompson]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/da'sean-butler

Comparison is Rasual Butler.

[TD 21]

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/da'sean-butler (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/da%27sean-butler)

Comparison is Rasual Butler.

I haven't seen enough of Butler to say this definitively, but from what I remember seeing and have heard/read about him, Dudley may be a better comparison. Sub par athletically, but a fairly good shooter (though Dudley's become a very good three-point shooter the last two seasons), a solid defender in select match-ups (meaning, not against overly explosive wings), brings intangibles, known as a good character guy.

[PhingerRoll]

If not in a package deal for a second big, then maybe a straight up trade for another young player on his rookie deal, who's not getting a lot of playing time. Maybe someone projected to be late lottery falls to around twenty, they could offer Anderson and their 1st to move up. The point is, it gives the Spurs options, without worrying about decimating their depth. It's not about giving up on him, it's about having the depth, with Neal's emergence and Butler's signing (again, if they're confident/he shows flashes indicating he's going to become what he was projected to become), to fill a hole elsewhere.

Based on their comments, it sounds like Butler is guaranteed for next season. As I suspected. It makes sense, because they're not going to get anything out of him this season. Although, since the guarantee was probably fairly minimal, if they're really underwhelmed with him between now and the start of next season and confident in their depth on the wings, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to cut him. I don't expect that to happen, though.

Product familiarity and team chemistry are not to be discounted. My point was more general to the folks that immediately said this makes Neal, Anderson, Ghill trade bait.. It doesn't. If we trade him it's because we don't think he will be able to stay healthy..

[Thompson]

Whoever this is, he agrees with your comparison to Dudley. He has a lot of information about Butler, but I don't know how reliable the information is. Better than nothing.

http://www.briansbigboard.com/player/da-sean-butler

Apparently he has rather odd shooting mechanics. Hopefully Chip can help him with that.

[Bruno]

I'm curious why Miami drafted him, knowing he wouldn't be playing anytime soon, and then proceeded to cut him before the season. It's not like he played his way out of the rotation - he didn't play at all.

They cut him because Mike Miller was injured and they needed a wing. their roster was full so they had to waive him before signing Stackhouse. I guess that they weren't also please with his knee recovery.

At the end, it didn't work for Miami. They spend the 42th pick on him and gave him $300K for nothing. On top of that Stackhouse sucked and was cut.

[TD 21]

Product familiarity and team chemistry are not to be discounted. My point was more general to the folks that immediately said this makes Neal, Anderson, Ghill trade bait.. It doesn't. If we trade him it's because we don't think he will be able to stay healthy..

How much familiarity and chemistry has Anderson accumulated? He's barely been around the team, much less played. I agree that it doesn't automatically make Anderson trade bait. But it frees them up now to trade Anderson without decimating their depth on the wings. If they trade him, it won't be because of health, it'll be because of depth on the wings and not enough depth amongst the bigs, with McDyess likely retiring.

[kobyz]

nice no risk move, hopefully he can return to full shape as before the injury, once in college when he was healthy, i compared him to Carlos Delfino, so is a player that could play some if being 100 percent.

[8FOR!3]

cool..then u might be able to tell us all his strengths and weakness....

He was a solid shooter in college, not at the level of James Anderson as someone compared somewhere in this thread, but he can create his shot and drive to the basket fairly well. In the NBA he should be considered an average athlete and an average defender, but where I think he's a little underrated is his d in the paint is pretty good, he's got solid size and strength and imo could play combo forward for us. He's clutch too and shows up big when called upon. That's my take on him.

[tdunk21]

He was a solid shooter in college, not at the level of James Anderson as someone compared somewhere in this thread, but he can create his shot and drive to the basket fairly well. In the NBA he should be considered an average athlete and an average defender, but where I think he's a little underrated is his d in the paint is pretty good, he's got solid size and strength and imo could play combo forward for us. He's clutch too and shows up big when called upon. That's my take on him.

thanx

[mattyc]

Interesting move. I don't know a great deal about him, but I like how the Spurs are willing to take a punt on a guy like this. Hope it works out for the guy.

[IknowU]

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

[PhingerRoll]

How much familiarity and chemistry has Anderson accumulated? He's barely been around the team, much less played. I agree that it doesn't automatically make Anderson trade bait. But it frees them up now to trade Anderson without decimating their depth on the wings. If they trade him, it won't be because of health, it'll be because of depth on the wings and not enough depth amongst the bigs, with McDyess likely retiring.

Quite a bit actually. An entire off season with the team and most of the season this year aside from injury time. He obviously accumulated a good bit for him to even see the floor under coach Pop. He was doing great pre-injury. Again, to trade him for anything of value would require a rather lop sided trade, and not in our favor.

Sure it gives us options, but trading productive youth that is signed for cheap is not a very valid one. What if Butler doesn't pan out(i hope he does)? Not to mention, they don't even play the same position. Sure, JA was getting a minute or two here and there as a SF, but he is a SG. Now if we can do a lakers/gasol type trade for him, by all means, let's. Other than that, there isn't a lot of upside in trading away young talented players that fit your team...

Free agency would be a much more valid option for us to acquire our fifth big... Our roster is too deep and the chemistry is too good to go fuckin around with it in hopes that we might find an ok fifth big man. Not to mention we shouldn't fuck around with the roster when our time left with Timmy is getting thin.

[PhingerRoll]

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

As he should be. No way he could help next year..

[senorglory]

Free Da'Sean!!!!!!

[Solid D]

Wow, this could turn out to be a great investment move!

[toki9]

They cut him because Mike Miller was injured and they needed a wing. their roster was full so they had to waive him before signing Stackhouse. I guess that they weren't also please with his knee recovery.

At the end, it didn't work for Miami. They spend the 42th pick on him and gave him $300K for nothing. On top of that Stackhouse sucked and was cut.

Miami still owes him money for next season, too, right? So they're sort of subsidizing the Spurs on this?

[Bruno]

Miami still owes him money for next season, too, right? So they're sort of subsidizing the Spurs on this?

No, they don't:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/heat.jsp

[Bruno]

Reports said that several teams were interested in Butler so it possible that Spurs have used some creating financing to get Butler with their MLE.

It will be interesting to have Butler's contract details because it will show what kind of commitment Spurs have made with him. My guess is that Spurs have made a true investment on Butler unlike for a player like Danny Green who will be more a training camp fodder.

[easy7]

It's ovah, hand over the LOB, no sense in playing the playoffs.

[yavozerb]

Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

[Thomas82]

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

How do you know for sure? If he signs with the Spurs this summer, I actually see him being on the roster.

[GabeIsGone]

Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

For 3 of the 4 this is like their first major injury. Though Splitter supposedly has a history of lots of minor injuries.

[Cane]

A 3 point shooter thats taller than 6'6"! Not bad as a project player although he likely won't be contributing much this season and needs a lot of work on the defensive end. A lot of work.


Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

None of those guys are breaking the bank so they can be traded if they do become too fragile for the NBA. With the lockout coming they might also benefit from the extended downtime to heal up and they're all young and brimming with potential. However thats one underrated advantage with Richard Jefferson...dude's built like a tank and hardly misses any games.

[wildbill2u]

I'd like to bring some reality in here. He wasn't a lottery pick before the injury. He was down in the first round category where less than 20% of the picks make it on any team and those aren't stars, just rotation bench players.

He COULD make it back after the injury and COULD become a player--but let's not get carried away that we've picked up a future All-Star.

He seems like a nice young kid and I hope he makes it because it would be a great story.

[Ocotillo]

I hope there is a summer camp. It will be interesting to see:

Butler, Anderson, Splitter (?), Richards, and the picks......

Maybe even James Gist!

[ChuckD]

I'd like to bring some reality in here. He wasn't a lottery pick before the injury. He was down in the first round category where less than 20% of the picks make it on any team and those aren't stars, just rotation bench players.

He COULD make it back after the injury and COULD become a player--but let's not get carried away that we've picked up a future All-Star.

He seems like a nice young kid and I hope he makes it because it would be a great story.

I don't think anyone has any illusions that he's going to be an All Star. The reality is that if he had come out this year instead of last, he'd have had a good shot at going in the lottery. We got him essentially for free, and he seems like a Spurs kind of guy. Yes, it's a weak draft, but we don't have to pay him first round guaranteed money, and other teams acquiring similar talent will.

[ChuckD]

I hope there is a summer camp. It will be interesting to see:

Butler, Anderson, Splitter (?), Richards, and the picks......

Maybe even James Gist!

Splitter will not be in any summer camps or leagues.

[toki9]

No, they don't:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/heat.jsp

Hm, that's interesting. Miami Heat's beat writer on Sun-Sentinel:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/03/is-it-time-for-dasean-butler-part-ii.html

"In other words, it will be interesting to see if there is a return from the $300,000 the Heat guaranteed him for 2010-11 and the $394,000 the Heat guaranteed for next season."

On the other hand, if Butler is also saying he's not getting paid next year by the Heat, then the writer probably didn't check something.

[Mr. Body]

Potentially a very nice pick-up. I was at Lucas Oil Stadium during the Final Four. Not a lot of WV fans there - least of all four teams - and you could feel how sick everyone was when Butler went down. Except for the Duke fans. They suck.

[PhingerRoll]

The Richards kid looks skilled. Very tall and athletic too... Let's go ahead and bring him over next year and bring him along as we did Splitter this year. Great young core. The Butler move is another great one.

[ChuckD]

Hm, that's interesting. Miami Heat's beat writer on Sun-Sentinel:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/03/is-it-time-for-dasean-butler-part-ii.html

"In other words, it will be interesting to see if there is a return from the $300,000 the Heat guaranteed him for 2010-11 and the $394,000 the Heat guaranteed for next season."

On the other hand, if Butler is also saying he's not getting paid next year by the Heat, then the writer probably didn't check something.

IIRC, if they waive you, they have to pay all of your guaranteed money at that time. If that's the case, they don't owe him any more money because he's been settled at the time of the cut/waive. Likely, there was a buyout, and he got some of the money in return for being cut.

The Heat are fucking stupid. They knew he fucking wouldn't likely play at all this year. Why give him 300K guaranteed and then cut him? Didn't they know they might need roster spots? I'm so glad we have the front office that we have.

[yavozerb]

The Richards kid looks skilled. Very tall and athletic too... Let's go ahead and bring him over next year and bring him along as we did Splitter this year. Great young core. The Butler move is another great one.

Difference is Richards has almost zero experience with professional basketball and Splitter already had 5+ yrs on the the pro level. I would rather see Richards play overseas on an elite lvl team.

[toki9]

IIRC, if they waive you, they have to pay all of your guaranteed money at that time. If that's the case, they don't owe him any more money because he's been settled at the time of the cut/waive. Likely, there was a buyout, and he got some of the money in return for being cut.

The Heat are fucking stupid. They knew he fucking wouldn't likely play at all this year. Why give him 300K guaranteed and then cut him? Didn't they know they might need roster spots? I'm so glad we have the front office that we have.

Ah, so they don't owe him anything next year because they paid it all upfront when they waived him? Then the conflicting reports make sense, sort of.

[ChuckD]

Blair sucks.


Blair with matador defense.

dbestpro with the matador thread recognition.

[BackHome]

As he should be. No way he could help next year..


Well if Dice retires then we will need another big someone who is a banger in the inside. Oh and taller then 6'8..............

[duncan228]

Newest Spur will be eased into pro game (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/25/newest-spur-will-be-eased-into-pro-game/)
Jeff McDonald

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/25/newest-spur-will-be-eased-into-pro-game/

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

He's 6'7"? The Spurs finally picked up another center!!! Lol

:lol no shit right god what happened to pop. im sure if we traded our pick and bonner we could move up in the draft, but hell no pop would probably pick bonner if we had the #1 pick. we need to get young bigs, i wonder when ryan richards is coming

[IknowU]

Ryan Richards is already in San Antonio just rehab and shooting around. He isnt signed to any team atm.


Hopefully he starts kissing Pop's ass early so gets some playing time when hes on the roster. :whine

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

Ryan Richards is already in San Antonio just rehab and shooting around. He isnt signed to any team atm.


Hopefully he starts kissing Pop's ass early so gets some playing time when hes on the roster. :whine

sweet!! what do you think his chances are of being incorp. with the team. god wouldnt it be nice to see him replace bonner????? a young horry is what he reminds me of

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Alrite! I posted it last year that they might do it as its low risk potentially high reward.

[IknowU]

sweet!! what do you think his chances are of being incorp. with the team. god wouldnt it be nice to see him replace bonner????? a young horry is what he reminds me of

nah lol. At best if hes developed properly as big man, I see him as a Chris Bosh type player that shoot pretty good and has range.

[angelbelow]

Low risk move indeed. He was pretty hyped by ESPN during their draft show.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

nah lol. At best if hes developed properly as big man, I see him as a Chris Bosh type player that shoot pretty good and has range.

Richards says the player he'd compare himself to in style is Chris Bosh

[ChuckD]

:lol no shit right god what happened to pop. im sure if we traded our pick and bonner we could move up in the draft, but hell no pop would probably pick bonner if we had the #1 pick. we need to get young bigs, i wonder when ryan richards is coming

Spurs fan: Bonner sucks!!! Hey, let's package him and our shitty pick. I'm sure someone will give us a good pick for our shitty pick and sucky player.

[Strategic]

Hopefully he's here as a 3 and not as a 4.

Before you say that's ridiculous..................:nope

[SenorSpur]

Richards says the player he'd compare himself to in style is Chris Bosh

God help us all, if that's true. That's all we need now is a finesse 4 - as if Bonner wasn't enough.

[ChuckD]

Alrite! I posted it last year that they might do it as its low risk potentially high reward.

Yeah, but you wanted them to pay him all year long. This is better.

[Agloco]

Wow. Surprising signing, but could be one that reaps substantial rewards.

Now, a couple of questions.

As others have already expressed, would Pop even play the guy?
Is this strictly an end-of-the-year move? Or is it a signing with an eye on the future?

Probably with an eye on replacing Dicky J...........sooner rather than later hopefully.

[Ice009]

sweet!! what do you think his chances are of being incorp. with the team. god wouldnt it be nice to see him replace bonner????? a young horry is what he reminds me of

I haven't read through this whole thread, but I don't think I need to after this?

Robert Horry? LOL where are you people coming up with this stuff?

[ChumpDumper]

Butler was in street clothes at the end of the Toros bench tonight.

[underdawg]

Butler was in street clothes at the end of the Toros bench tonight.

how has Weaver looked since he's getting more minutes now?

Does Lyons have any potential? The few minutes I've been able to watch, he looks like a pretty decent shooter.

[ace3g]

Spurs Assign Da’sean Butler To Austin Toros

SAN ANTONIO (March 28, 2011) – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have assigned rookie Da’Sean Butler to the Austin Toros of the NBA Development League.

Butler, a 6-7, 230-pound forward out of the University of West Virginia, was signed by the Spurs on March 25. He was originally selected by the Miami Heat with the 42nd pick in the 2010 NBA Draft. He signed with the Heat on August 30 and was later waived on October 25. He has been out of action since suffering a torn left ACL in the 2010 Final Four against Duke on April 3. Butler played four seasons with the Mountaineers, finishing with 107 career wins, the most in school history. As a senior, he was named First Team All-Big East, averaging a team-high 17.2 points, 6.2 rebounds and 3.1 assists in 38 games.

The Toros travel to Reno to take on the Bighorns Tuesday, March 29 at 9:00 p.m. before returning home to face the Texas Legends Thursday, March 31 and Saturday, April 2 at the Cedar Park Center in the final two regular season games.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs_assign_butler_110328.html

[ChumpDumper]

how has Weaver looked since he's getting more minutes now? Kinda playing the Manu role on offense. Nice passer. Good D.


Does Lyons have any potential? The few minutes I've been able to watch, he looks like a pretty decent shooter.Not bad. Has some stretch four potential. Needs to be more consistent like most of the Toros. Should be a better rebounder.

[benefactor]

DLeague home page is reporting that Butler will debut tonight. Game starts and 9 SA time.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/

[benefactor]

Game will stream live on Futurecast.

[benefactor]

Game getting ready to start.

[benefactor]

Lyons has a nice looking shot.

[benefactor]

No Butler sighting yet. First quarter almost over.

[benefactor]

Toros getting worked right now. Reno has a lot of size.

[benefactor]

Reno up by five at the end of the first. Perhaps we see Butler to start the second.

[FvckMavs]

He said he won't play tonight?

http://twitter.com/TheDaSeanButler

[benefactor]

Ahh...ok. I guess the NBADL site needs to follow him on twitter.

[ulosturedge]

Looks like Butler signed a 2 year deal with the Spurs.


Butler Sits In First Game
MetroNews Sports
Morgantown
http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=44256

Former West Virginia basketball star Da'Sean Butler didn't play in his NBA Development League debut against the Reno Bighorns on Tuesday night. Butler informed Mountaineer nation that he wouldn't be playing for the Austin Toros on his twitter account stating, "I am not playing 2nite every1..."

Butler signed a two year deal with the San Antonio Spurs last week and was originally placed on the inactive list so he could continue rehabing his knee which he injured in the 2010 Final Four. He was recently cleared for action and assigned to the Spurs' NBA D-League affiliate on Monday.

The Toros lost to Reno 102-98. Austin is currently 2 games behind Fort Wayne for the eighth and final playoff position, have two regular season games remaining and both are against the Texas Legends. That will mean Butler can face-off against former teammate Joe Alexander who plays for the Legends.