Tim's Playoff brilliance

[TDfan2007]

Here are his stats in this years playoffs compared to his regular season stats:


Playoffs (2005):

PPG RPG BPG APG MPG
24.9 11.70 2.31 3.0 36.5


Regular Season:

PPG RPG BPG APG MPG
20.3 11.1 2.64 2.7 33.4

[Dre_7]

Dang! Doin this with 2 bad ankles!!!!

Amazing!

[TDMVPDPOY]

If he had played with 2 bad ankle all season long = another mvp in the cabinet already this season :D

[SpursFanInAustin]

More like 5 more points if you round the numbers

[spurster]

After the 1st game of looking very gimpy vs. the Nuggets, TD has gutted it out, and brought it every game. Sometimes he looks a little gimpy (e.g., staying in front of Amare), but his numbers show his effort and his desire for another title.

[Timmy21]

He knows when to click it to overdrive at the right time.

[mavsfan1000]

Duncan will not have brilliant numbers with Haslem and Mourning guarding him.
These players are physical and force you to take jump shots. Mourning plays dirty so Duncan might have trouble in this series.

[Sense]

Duncan will not have brilliant numbers with Haslem and Mourning guarding him.
These players are physical and force you to take jump shots. Mourning plays dirty so Duncan might have trouble in this series.



I think you are stupid dude...

as far as I KNOW.. Haslem is nothing but a fucking shooter.. And Mourning tries too hard plus he's old.

Let's try the other 2 in the bench?

Oh that's right 2 shooters..

Duncan doesn't even shoot for Shaq is he doesn't need to.

[mavsfan1000]

I think you are stupid dude...

as far as I KNOW.. Haslem is nothing but a fucking shooter.. And Mourning tries too hard plus he's old.

Let's try the other 2 in the bench?

Oh that's right 2 shooters..

Duncan doesn't even shoot for Shaq is he doesn't need to.
If you expect Haslem and Mourning to play soft defense like Stoudemire you got another thing coming. Mourning can't shoot but he sure can play defense. Miami is not Phoenix meaning they play defense so I expect a closer series.

[Sense]

If you expect Haslem and Mourning to play soft defense like Stoudemire you got another thing coming. Mourning can't shoot but he sure can play defense. Miami is not Phoenix meaning they play defense so I expect a closer series.


I'd like to repeat that you are stupid.
Amare didn't play successful defense on Duncan..and that's obvious..
But he did play defense on him and I doubt that it was soft at all.

Mourning has proven he can play defense...but against who?
Don't tell me Rasheed Wallace... I do believe that the refs screwed him last game.

And Yes I know that Miami is not Phoenix and that you will expect a closer series..

But remember that the Spurs love that kind of Tempo..and they were expected to lose the last series because of the Tempo that Phoenix had..

Spurs ball will be seen when they slow it up again with defense on defense..

That means the Spurs can win that...

The spurs are the better defenders...and offensive players..

They sure showed that by beating phoenix at their own game.

[mavsfan1000]

Parker and Ginobili were at their best against teams who like to run. They go back and run back against that team. San Antonio in my opinion is at their best when they run and Phoenix doesn't have good transition defense. San Antonio would give up more points but they ran better than Phoenix which is hard to do.
Against physical teams like Seattle and LAL is when San Antonio struggled. Don't just say things and not back them up.

[Sense]

Parker and Ginobili were at their best against teams who like to run. They go back and run back against that team. San Antonio in my opinion is at their best when they run and Phoenix doesn't have good transition defense. San Antonio would give up more points but they ran better than Phoenix which is hard to do.
Against physical teams like Seattle and LAL is when San Antonio struggled. Don't just say things and not back them up.


WHAT?

First of all I'd like to mention you didn't make sense...

Except for the part that physical teams like seattle and LAL(which I didn't see in the playoffs).

San Antonio did struggle a little bit with Seattle...and I really don't know why you are mentioning LAL...


But what's your fucking point?


You're the idiot not backing shit up..

Just shut up..your ego is too weak and you have no detail when you try to back it up..

[mavsfan1000]

What part doesn't make sense? In an open game Parker and Ginobili are at their best like Phoenix.

[Sense]

What part doesn't make sense? In an open game Parker and Ginobili are at their best like Phoenix.


Exactly...


SO WHAT?

What's the point of you saying that?

What did you try to answer against me?

[mavsfan1000]

They will have more difficulties with Miami or Detroit than they did with Phoenix.

[Sense]

They will have more difficulties with Miami or Detroit than they did with Phoenix.


You actually mentioned Miami to be in the finals...so back that up.



Who do you think is gonna guard Manu or Parker?


PLEASE...whatever you mention will be stupid.


Stay with what you picked..that is miami..but they aren't deep enough to stop either of them.


You just answered the wrong thing..



I'm out for a bit.. enough arguiing with you..kind of stupid when you don't admit I'm right after it's so obvious.

[mavsfan1000]

You actually mentioned Miami to be in the finals...so back that up. Answer: Miami only needs one win and have been the better team all year

Who do you think is gonna guard Manu or Parker?
answer: Eddie Jones on Ginobili and Damon Jones or Dwayne Wade on Parker

Stay with what you picked..that is miami..but they aren't deep enough to stop either of them.
Miami is deep and most people would agree with me.

You just answered the wrong thing..
answer: You led me to explain in a general concept of what I was talking about.
.
I am giving give San Antonio credit but also respect what Miami has done this year.

[Dre_7]

If you expect Haslem and Mourning to play soft defense like Stoudemire you got another thing coming. Mourning can't shoot but he sure can play defense. Miami is not Phoenix meaning they play defense so I expect a closer series.

They may not play soft D like Amare, but Timmy had some VERY physical D against Seattle. James and Fortson (and who else am I missing?) are as physical and dirty as they come. He shouldnt have a problem. And Shaq cant guard Timmy. The Diesel will be too slow w/ his injury.

[mavsfan1000]

They may not play soft D like Amare, but Timmy had some VERY physical D against Seattle. James and Fortson (and who else am I missing?) are as physical and dirty as they come. He shouldnt have a problem. And Shaq cant guard Timmy. The Diesel will be too slow w/ his injury.
I agree with Shaq can't guard Tim Duncan but they let Mourning get away with dirty defense because he is one of the refs favorites along with Wade and Shaq. He gets away with playing dirty unlike Seattle who were called for many fouls.

[MadDog73]

I agree with Shaq can't guard Tim Duncan but they let Mourning get away with dirty defense because he is one of the refs favorites along with Wade and Shaq. He gets away with playing dirty unlike Seattle who were called for many fouls.

You forget, Tim is a superstar, too. And unlike other "stars", who let bad calls effect his game, Tim feeds off of them, actually getting more agressive and becoming even more focused.

The fact that the Spurs just beat the Suns in 5, gives me great hope against the Heat. The Heat have not faced a team like the Spurs in the playoffs yet. The Pistons just have not been as consistent as the Spurs on defense and offense.

I'm really looking forward to the finals, no matter who we face.

[mavsfan1000]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sense



PLEASE...whatever you mention will be stupid.
.


Obviously you are closed minded and can't admit that I am right on some of these things. I might not be right on all things but you are not giving me credit for anything. You are a blind fan.

[mavsfan1000]

If Wade is injured none of this matters.

[slayermin]

TD will have a problem with Shaq and Mourning. It will be a gut check for him. He will need to take advantage of his quickness against the two a-holes. Haslem is too small to guard TD.

[mavsfan1000]

If Shaq has to guard Duncan there is no way Miami can win. I feel Haslem will guard Duncan regardless of his size. Haslem will just try to be active and a pest kinda like Ben Wallace does to Shaq.

[slayermin]

^^^
I know Haslem will guard TD. What I meant is that he will dominate Haslem. TD will do the samething he did to Marion, Stoudemire, K-Mart, and Evans. He will measure his shots and just shoot over him with jump hooks, banks shots, and runners.

[mavsfan1000]

^^^
I know Haslem will guard TD. What I meant is that he will dominate Haslem. TD will do the samething he did to Marion, Stoudemire, K-Mart, and Evans. He will measure his shots and just shoot over him with jump hooks, banks shots, and runners.
Haslem might be small but he is strong and active. He will try to fight Duncan to get him out of position. I think he has more committment to defense than Stoudemire had. Mourning could give Duncan problems and might play heavier minutes in this series due to this.

[slayermin]

TD is too quick for Mourning or Shaq. But is Tim willing to take the physicality? That's the question, in my opinion. I think he will because this is for all the marbles.

Haslem is strong and quick but he's 6'8, 228 according to NBA.com. That is an undersized PF in my book.

Is he really much better than Stoudemire or K-Mart or Marion for that matter?

[mavsfan1000]

Miami does a good job at TEAM defense. They don't give players much room to
operate plus they rotate well on their man. Individually Haslem can't guard Duncan but their will be help and quick rotation to avoid open 3's or try to prevent that. Detroit is not good offensively and San Antonio could completely shut them down plus they might be able to run on Detroit.
http://www.nba.com/games/20050213/SASMIA/boxscore.html

[MannyIsGod]

We're talking about Tim Duncan. We're not talking about a streaky powerforward who has great play in stretches and is on the verge of stardom. We are talking about the player who is possibly the most consistent player in the leauge at this time.

He will have to work harder for his points, and there is no doubt about that, but neither the Heat nor the Pistons will shut Duncan down. He simply is not the type of player whom you can shut down. They may limit him using certain double teams and schemes but that will open up the game for other players and Tim is an excellent passer.

Tim is no stranger to physical play, and I doubt Mourning will consistenly get more calls than Duncan. Regardless of what Spurs fans may think, Duncan gets more than a fair share of calls on both ends of the court and I don't see tha changing all of a sudden in a series versus either of those 2 teams.

The Spurs are better in transition than either of these teams and I expect game one to be a shinning example of that. Whoever comes out of the east will probably be dead tired and mentaly exhausted after a 7 game series with only a few days rest. I hope to see a game where the Spurs jump on them quickly and run them to death.

We'll see though, it should be the best Finals the Spurs have particiapted in and I'm eager to see how it plays out.

[mavsfan1000]

I hate to bring back a bad memory but Malone did a good job of shutting Duncan down or containing him.

[Sense]

We're talking about Tim Duncan. We're not talking about a streaky powerforward who has great play in stretches and is on the verge of stardom. We are talking about the player who is possibly the most consistent player in the leauge at this time.

He will have to work harder for his points, and there is no doubt about that, but neither the Heat nor the Pistons will shut Duncan down. He simply is not the type of player whom you can shut down. They may limit him using certain double teams and schemes but that will open up the game for other players and Tim is an excellent passer.

Tim is no stranger to physical play, and I doubt Mourning will consistenly get more calls than Duncan. Regardless of what Spurs fans may think, Duncan gets more than a fair share of calls on both ends of the court and I don't see tha changing all of a sudden in a series versus either of those 2 teams.

The Spurs are better in transition than either of these teams and I expect game one to be a shinning example of that. Whoever comes out of the east will probably be dead tired and mentaly exhausted after a 7 game series with only a few days rest. I hope to see a game where the Spurs jump on them quickly and run them to death.

We'll see though, it should be the best Finals the Spurs have particiapted in and I'm eager to see how it plays out.


Your words come from my thoughts aswell!

[MI21]

TD has already faced very good and tough defenders in Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby and Nene against Denver.

Then he faced very rough and dirty but not exactly "good" defenders in Reggie Evans, Jerome James and Danny Fortson.

He is used to the rough defense Mavsfan, so quit acting like he hasn't faced any this playoff run. What the hell does a Mavs fan know about defense anyway?

[TDMVPDPOY]

I got a good feelin haslem is goin to thank duncan for this series, because duncan is goin to put him on a poster and on the next dvd title takin it into the post for dummies

[MannyIsGod]

I hate to bring back a bad memory but Malone did a good job of shutting Duncan down or containing him.
And anyone who watched that series knows that Tim still got good numbers and it opened up a ton of open shots for other shooters. Go ahead and take a look at the shooting percentages of some of our other players.

The same thing holds true for these upcoming finals. Should the Spurs show an inability to hit wide open 18 footers, they are going to lose. Timmy needs some room to do his thing, and if they choose to shut that off with mutiple defenders it will open shots for the guards. So far in these playoffs those shots have been hit.

[Sense]

And anyone who watched that series knows that Tim still got good numbers and it opened up a ton of open shots for other shooters. Go ahead and take a look at the shooting percentages of some of our other players.

The same thing holds true for these upcoming finals. Should the Spurs show an inability to hit wide open 18 footers, they are going to lose. Timmy needs some room to do his thing, and if they choose to shut that off with mutiple defenders it will open shots for the guards. So far in these playoffs those shots have been hit.


You know.... I was waiting for someone else to step up and tell this moron he doesn't know what he's talking about...

I thank you Manny...

[SenorSpur]

If the Spurs end up playing Miami and if Van Gundy assigns Haslem to Duncan, TD will feed off that mismatch all day long. Believe me, he'll have to have help because he'll be surely overmatched.

[Sense]

If the Spurs end up playing Miami and if Van Gundy assigns Haslem to Duncan, TD will feed off that mismatch all day long. Believe me, he'll have to have help because he'll be surely overmatched.


Who is it you think is gonna need help SeñorSpur

[1Parker1]

You know.... I was waiting for someone else to step up and tell this moron he doesn't know what he's talking about...

I thank you Manny...

Sense, not that I don't agree with you, but your arguments would be better if you stopped calling other people stupid and/or a moron. :rolleyes

[Sense]

Sense, not that I don't agree with you, but your arguments would be better if you stopped calling other people stupid and/or a moron. :rolleyes


You know I can't help myself...

They act like it, they try to come back with still the same reason and same stupid detail..without noticing the fact that they can't say something back.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Let's just sum it up this way. . .


Tim Duncan -- 2 NBA Finals appearances, 2 NBA Finals MVP trophies.







He'll step it up to an even greater level. No one wants to win in the playoffs more than TD.

Mavs fans probably haven't been paying attention the last few years. I understand the fishing is pretty good in June around _allas.

[TDfan2007]

I hate to bring back a bad memory but Malone did a good job of shutting Duncan down or containing him.

Malone "held" Tim to 21 points on 48% shooting. It's the shooting and offensive play of the other Spurs that killed us in that series.

[mavsfan1000]

I didn't expect Malone or anyone to shut Duncan down but 21 points is not bad.
Mourning might do similar stats to Duncan.

[mavsfan1000]

Mourning tries really hard so expect him to bother Duncan a little bit and with the refs letting Mourning get away with stuff. Haslem is a different story and I doubt he will guard Duncan much. Shaq might be forced to guard Duncan which favors San Antonio. Miami is the highest percentage shooting team in the league but that has to do with Wade and Shaq.

[Sense]

Mourning tries really hard so expect him to bother Duncan a little bit and with the refs letting Mourning get away with stuff. Haslem is a different story and I doubt he will guard Duncan much. Shaq might be forced to guard Duncan which favors San Antonio. Miami is the highest percentage shooting team in the league but that has to do with Wade and Shaq.


What is it you mean when you say the Heat get away with fouls?

I really don't get this....

[mavsfan1000]

Mourning is a veteran and gets alot of respect from refs and allow him to play more physical than younger players. Malone got the same treatment maybe a little more.