Tiago must stay in the rotation

[Spurs Brazil]

I don't know if Bonner or Blair will get no minutes but Tiago must play.

He played great defense in all his starts, today Aldridge scored 9pts, NINE

He's doing a fantastic job rotating and helping. He's doing a much better job on the boards. And he's getting more and more confidence on offense.

I don't core who will lose minutes but Pop must stop being stubborn and play the best player and Tiago is a much better option than Blair and Bonner

[Mugen]

:lmao no freaking way with this coach.

[mingus]

Aldridge just missed shots.

[GrandeDavid]

Agreed. And the fact that Bonner (and Jefferson) is playing so horrifically and soft, I think Splitter might've cracked it. But you never know with Gregg Popovich.

[nkdlunch]

But Bonner spreads his legs... I mean, the floor

[DMC]

Tiago did good. He can't hit the fucking rim from the free throw line though. That's a liability. He defends with his face instead of his hands and arms. That's another fundamental flaw. He needs a summer with real coaches who don't have 2nd jobs in the food industry.

[DontStopBelieving]

I really hope Pop keeps them in the rotation.. Bonner has reached a new level of suckitude and Blair is just too short. Timmy,Dice starting with Splitter the 1st big off the bench and some glimpses of Blair when matchups allow it is obviously our best shot.

Sean is making it sound like Timmy will be back this Thursday, so we'll see.

[NRHector]

you forgot one little thing POP IS THE FUCKING COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang

[alchemist]

he'll be starting next year for sure, get mad Popo haters :lol :toast

[Caeman]

Pop turned stupid a while back. I remember when we dictated the lineups; when we played big regardless of opponent. Now this bitch plays to the strengths of the other team. Add to the fact that every nigga's dick gets wet when they see that pussy Bonner guarding them.

[Mugen]

Tiago did good. He can't hit the fucking rim from the free throw line though. That's a liability. He defends with his face instead of his hands and arms. That's another fundamental flaw. He needs a summer with real coaches who don't have 2nd jobs in the food industry.

:lmao calling out his defense

:lmao nowhere near a liability as that waste of space ginger

[suitedkings]

It wouldnt be fair to the rest of the Blazers to say Tiago held him in check.

[td4mvp21]

I wouldn't count on it. What gives me hope is that Pop did the right thing last playoffs and benched Bonner's ass.

[DMC]

:lmao calling out his defense

If they don't work on his defensive fundamentals this summer, you might have a point.



:lmao nowhere near a liability as that waste of space ginger
And the ginger is no where near the liability that Ime was, and a rabbit with a pancake on it's head and so forth.

[Mugen]

If they don't work on his defensive fundamentals this summer, you might have a point.

And the ginger is no where near the liability that Ime was, and a rabbit with a pancake on it's head and so forth.

:lol tiago is the second best defensive big on this team.

And who the hell is bringing up Ime? Ime's not on the fucking team for a reason and Bonner should have been shown the same treatment.

[OoOoOoOoOoO]

Next game it will be a DNP-CD for Splitter... mark my words.

[Capt Bringdown]

Splitter and Hill have been the only bright spots as we circle the drain. It's undeniable that Splitter should play. Anything less is grossly incompetent.

[EduRiker]

Splitter is not this bad at the line. I don't know what the hell is going on. I know this is not a friendly topic around here but I do think he is mentally weak at the line.

[Josepatches_]

Outside Duncan he's our best big man.Dice is not young anymore and he can't score inside.Sure his Js and defense can help a lot.

Blair? Man, he seemed to be good.At least he was able to score in the paint easily.I can't understand what happened with this boy.

Booner? How is he playing so many minutes?

[Spurs Brazil]

Let's see what the stupid T.Griffin has to say now

[thOOdee]

every big bring something to the table....duncan the anchor.....splitter, your basic quality big....dice, your energy vet that has some hops left....blair, your black hole that recharges the team, and even bonner the wild card (should only be used if he is hot....other wise u get a bust) and that is the order from quality.

[Josepatches_]

Splitter is not this bad at the line. I don't know what the hell is going on. I know this is not a friendly topic around here but I do think he is mentally weak at the line.

No.He's not good at the line.

At least he wasn't good in Spain.I'm not seeing the stats but I saw him a lot because he was playing in my country and that's what I can remember.Bricks are usual but his % could say another thing.
He doesn't have a good JS either.

But he is tall,he's a good defensive player and he has great moves in the paint.That's more that we had here playing at center since Robinson.

[EduRiker]

Ok, he shot 63.6% in his last Euroleague season. But then he shot 79% in that same season in the ACB.

I do think that indicates he fails under pressure at the line.

[TD 21]

This team needs to consider a drastic change to their rotation.

Not only is it beyond obvious that Splitter should be at minimum the third big, but they should consider starting him. That would allow McDyess to come off the bench, which he prefers and it would allow them to go with Blair over Bonner without worrying about having a big with no range on the floor. Theoretically, the defense and rebounding would be improved with these two changes.

Green has two things Anderson doesn't: confidence and swagger. Also, Anderson isn't in anything close to game shape. 5:30 into the second half, he was gasping for air. Unfortunately, he's not going to be of use for the team this season. I'd strongly consider activating Green over him in perpetuity.

[Capt Bringdown]

If not for Duncan's injury, Splitter wouldn't have even sniffed the court at this point
Let that sink in.
Pop has had little use for Splitter all season long, and that's a big, big problem.

[Halberto]

While I agree that Splitter should start, you all need to realize that he can go right back to playing like shit (fouling every 3 minutes and running around like he's lost on offense). Blair had a streak where he was racking up double doubles and now look at him.

I still prefer Dyess over Splitter.

[Dr. Gonzo]

you forgot one little thing POP IS THE FUCKING COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang

He's such a piece of shit coach.

[Trimble87]

This team needs to consider a drastic change to their rotation.

Not only is it beyond obvious that Splitter should be at minimum the third big, but they should consider starting him. That would allow McDyess to come off the bench, which he prefers and it would allow them to go with Blair over Bonner without worrying about having a big with no range on the floor. Theoretically, the defense and rebounding would be improved with these two changes.

Green, I like confidence and swagger. Two things Anderson doesn't have. Also, Anderson isn't in anything close to game shape. 5:30 into the second half, he was gasping for air. Unfortunately, he's not going to be of use for the team this season. I'd strongly consider activating Green over him in perpetuity.

I agree with you on all counts. Dice has been balling the last few weeks, especially on D and on the glass. I had my doubts about Tiago earlier in the year, but the more I see him play the more apparent it is that he just needs playing time. He has to become more physical and he has to learn how to play against the athleticism and speed of NBA Forwards/Centers. But he is at minimum going to prove to be a solid role player in this league. Blair... is a beast, that is all.

Bonner is simply not needed on this team. Fuck spreading the floor. Dice and Duncan can both hit 18 footers and we have Neal, Manu, RJ(some nights) and Hill who can all sink 3's. If that isn't enough I would much rather see Novak getting spot minutes (3-8)mpg to spread the floor then Bonner getting 20mpg to spread the floor. When Bonner is on fire, he is great for this team and I understand why pop likes him so much. I understand the gameplan and why from an x's and o's standpoint you might want Bonner out there. But it is simply NOT working. He has no confidence in his own game, and I am struggling to understand why the coaching staff doesn't see it.

[Mugen]

Wow, i can't believe how good the Spanish League MVP is when he gets to play with people not named Chris Quinn or Othyus Jeffers.

[Capt Bringdown]

Blair had a streak where he was racking up double doubles and now look at him.

I still prefer Dyess over Splitter.

Blair has never shown the kind of smart defensive rotations that Splitter has demonstrated during these last 4 games.

The rotation should be weighted heavily in the direction of Dice & Splitter, with Blair as the energy guy.

[TD 21]

I agree with you on all counts. Dice has been balling the last few weeks, especially on D and on the glass. I had my doubts about Tiago earlier in the year, but the more I see him play the more apparent it is that he just needs playing time. He has to become more physical and he has to learn how to play against the athleticism and speed of NBA Forwards/Centers. But he is at minimum going to prove to be a solid role player in this league. Blair... is a beast, that is all.

Bonner is simply not needed on this team. Fuck spreading the floor. Dice and Duncan can both hit 18 footers and we have Neal, Manu, RJ(some nights) and Hill who can all sink 3's. If that isn't enough I would much rather see Novak getting spot minutes (3-8)mpg to spread the floor then Bonner getting 20mpg to spread the floor. When Bonner is on fire, he is great for this team and I understand why pop likes him so much. I understand the gameplan and why from an x's and o's standpoint you might want Bonner out there. But it is simply NOT working. He has no confidence in his own game, and I am struggling to understand why the coaching staff doesn't see it.

I never doubted Splitter. He's actually been solid all season, despite novice fans complaints. Whether he struggles or not, he's still 6-11, mobile, adept at making timely rotations and drawing charges. In other words, he's a presence. He's also good at drawing fouls. Sure, he's a sub par free throw shooter, but at least he contributes to getting the Spurs into the bonus, which is valuable.

I'm 50/50 between Bonner/Blair. If they make the change I'm suggesting (which isn't happening), then I'd probably give Blair the first crack. If they stand pat or go with Splitter over Blair on the second unit, I'd probably give Bonner the first crack (short leash, though). But if he continues this indifferent, no confidence, mentally/physically weak play, then I wouldn't even give him that.

[Buddy Holly]

Tiago should be starting with Tim, not Dice or Blair.

Hopefully Pop comes to his fucking senses by Thursday.

[itzsoweezee]

Tiago should be starting with Tim, not Dice or Blair.

Hopefully Pop comes to his fucking senses by Thursday.

Yeah, Dice looks kind of washed up right now. Splitter + Duncan would be a perfect front court.

[duncan228]

Let's see what the stupid T.Griffin has to say now


...The biggest revelation coming out of Monday’s game was the strong play of Tiago Splitter. And yes, Splitter proved he can play in the fourth quarter in a critical game situation. Splitter again showed an array of post moves as he produced 14 points and nine rebounds and gave the team an inside presence.

And he also helped provide a big effort against LaMarcus Aldridge, who had burned Duncan earlier in the season for 40 points. But a determined effort limited Aldridge to nine points — only his fifth time this season out of double figures and the first time since Jan. 24. Splitter’s strong play heading into the playoffs gives the Spurs’ better hope of matching up against the longer, taller teams in the Western Conference.

Five quick takes: Why Popovich was smiling even after a four-game losing streak (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/28/five-quick-takes-why-popovich-was-smiling-even-after-a-four-game-losing-streak/)
Tim Griffin

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/28/five-quick-takes-why-popovich-was-smiling-even-after-a-four-game-losing-streak/

[xellos88330]

I agree that Splitter should be in the rotation come playoffs. Take the minutes from Blair/Bonner. Not all of the minutes though, but some of them. I think this is Bonners last chance to show up in the playoffs. If he doesn't hopefully he is gone. Blair is still an enigma to me. He has decent intangibles.

[WeNeedLength]

I agree that Splitter should be in the rotation come playoffs. Take the minutes from Blair/Bonner. Not all of the minutes though, but some of them. I think this is Bonners last chance to show up in the playoffs. If he doesn't hopefully he is gone. Blair is still an enigma to me. He has decent intangibles.

This could have been said after EVERY single playoff series. WTF is it with him and Pop? They must be best buds or some shit. The only thing I don't want to see is Blair/Bonner combo in the playoffs against the tougher frontlines of the WC (Memphis, Lakers, Mavs, etc..). I have a feeling Tiago is going to get the SHAFT in the playoffs and be sitting on the bench as Spurs struggle to rebound and defend. :depressed

[objective]

"This regular season and playoffs isn't for players with fragile confidence who don't spread the floor." - :pop:

[pookenstein]

Tiago did good. He can't hit the fucking rim from the free throw line though. That's a liability.

That's a liability but also classic Spurs material.:lol

Agree that he has to stay in the rotation though.

[Fireball]

At the beginning of the playoffs Tiago will not see much playing time (which is bad), but if the Spurs will not have early success (e.g. losing one of the first two home games in the 1st round) thanks to Bonner being Bonner (i.e. clanking 3s and don't defend) Pop may give Tiago more minutes. Pop has shown that he has no problem tinkering with the lineups in the playoffs. If Tiago uses his chance then and delivers, everything could turn out just fine ...

[UnWantedTheory]

Tiago did good. He can't hit the fucking rim from the free throw line though. That's a liability. He defends with his face instead of his hands and arms. That's another fundamental flaw. He needs a summer with real coaches who don't have 2nd jobs in the food industry.
DMC! It appears I have been absent too long. I thought you were banned? No matter, it's good to see you bro. :toast

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

But Bonner spreads his legs... I mean, the floor

:lmao

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

it sucks but im preparing myself to see splitter with the dnp the only reason why i say this is because everytime they do a segment on the spurs (local) our coaching staff talks about everyone else but tiago who obviously is the one with the most talent as far as reserve bigs.

they start talking about the big three and hill/blair totally downplaying my man tiago. its like they have something against him...i know that sounds stupid but theres really no explanation for it its bazaar to say the least.

he doesn't bitch about minutes after being talked into coming down to s.a and playing for nothing. remember he only came to s.a because he finally thought he could get minutes!!! this is real talk.. even with the disrespect he's done his job and been treated like shit from our staff.

i hope they play him come playoff however if they don't i want pop fired,only to be replaced with 1999 pop. reason being is b/c without tiago were not winning a championship.. you guys know it.. bonner isnt going to be a force off the bench.. can he defend the laker bigs ???the dallas bigs ??shit even okc bigs???..thats whats coming up in the playoffs. pop please give in and play the kid .

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

Splitter is not this bad at the line. I don't know what the hell is going on. I know this is not a friendly topic around here but I do think he is mentally weak at the line.

i agree, hes a really smart dude im not just saying that...people will soon find out thats why im certain he will do big things here, he learns fast. its funny because tims the same way ...they just overthink things, so im sure he has to get his mind to a certain process before going to the line. hell do it. im sure

[MaNu4Tres]

Been saying it all year long. Splitter just needs time.

Hopefully Pop finally realizes Splitter is at least the 3rd best big on the team and gives him the nod over Blair/Bonner (for the team's sake).

[ajballer4]

Tiago needs minutes solely based on the fact that he held Aldridge to nine points and I thought was playing good d against him last time and against Memphis. I could care less what he does on offense in the playoffs, we have enough of that. His defense needs minutes

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

tiago needed minutes as soon as his injury healed (beg. of season) and i was freaked out because pop was taking too long to play him little did i know this catastrophe was about to take place. its just down right disrespectful to lie to players about playing time when they move from their countries. i mean i would be furious if i were tiago

[Dr. Gonzo]

Been saying it all year long. Splitter just needs time.


You are so smart. You should be the coach instead of Popabitch.

[ace3g]

Splitter is not this bad at the line. I don't know what the hell is going on. I know this is not a friendly topic around here but I do think he is mentally weak at the line.

I've been saying all year, the Spurs coaching staff did something to his FT form; if you look back at the World Championships and prior to that is form was much more fluid than that. It was the first thing I noticed, the first time he stepped to that line, he all of a sudden had a hitch right before he released the ball.

He was about a 70-75 % FT shooter, now all of a sudden he is a 50% shooter?????

Examples:
ZGYT7nGWoos

2:24 mark
VgA02ZWPzSU

:30 mark - 1:10
XFjeWYbfxBs&feature=related

1:25 mark - 1:55
KXVvjBDqaEE

[jeebus]

He was about a 70-75 % FT shooter, now all of a sudden he is a 50% shooter?????

Everyone that comes to the Spurs ends up shooting horribly from the FT line. The only person to consistently make them has been Manu; it's a Spurs curse that's been around a looooooong time

[ace3g]

Everyone that comes to the Spurs ends up shooting horribly from the FT line. The only person to consistently make them has been Manu; it's a Spurs curse that's been around a looooooong time

difference is, Splitters FT form all of a sudden changed...

[Harry Callahan]

I'm just glad Tiago and G Hill have done well the last few games.

George was in funk and is back where he needs to be.

Tiago is just now healthy and showing good ability. He'll be needed at some point in the playoffs.

Honestly, I don't see a lot of difference in being seed 1 or 2. Portland, OKC, Dallas, Denver are all tough, but beatable (with SA a full or close to full strength). The only break that might be nice is playing NO or Houston in the first round. I don't think those teams can hang for a 7 game series.

Home court advantage is assured (assuming SA can win a few now) for a least the first 2 rounds.

I've never considered The Staples Center as some great home court because of the crowd. Lot's of rich Hollywood transplants wanting to be seen. The loud part of the crowd consists of the putas in the upper deck.

SA has to be healthy in Mid - April regardless to make a long run.

[Cessation]

This team needs to consider a drastic change to their rotation.

Not only is it beyond obvious that Splitter should be at minimum the third big, but they should consider starting him. That would allow McDyess to come off the bench, which he prefers and it would allow them to go with Blair over Bonner without worrying about having a big with no range on the floor. Theoretically, the defense and rebounding would be improved with these two changes.

Green has two things Anderson doesn't: confidence and swagger. Also, Anderson isn't in anything close to game shape. 5:30 into the second half, he was gasping for air. Unfortunately, he's not going to be of use for the team this season. I'd strongly consider activating Green over him in perpetuity.

Quality post son, other than the green/anderson, part. Its good to see your bonner love has dissipated, and you've seen the essence of the matter.

[Chomag]

Splitter should be in the playoff rotation, and he should have been implemented allot earlier as we all have been saying. However Pop is still the boss, and I have a feeling Pop will try to remind Splitter that in the upcoming games. I hope I'm wrong though.

[Kool Bob Love]

But Bonner spreads his legs... I mean, the floor


I Like all my spurs players but I :lol.

I know POP will do whats right. He HAS to.:toast

[BRs.Ganso]

Tiago last 6 games:

23,1MPG
9,0PPG
8,0RPG
60%FG

Great job on Aldridge yesterday! :toast

[BRs.Ganso]

I've been saying all year, the Spurs coaching staff did something to his FT form; if you look back at the World Championships and prior to that is form was much more fluid than that. It was the first thing I noticed, the first time he stepped to that line, he all of a sudden had a hitch right before he released the ball.

He was about a 70-75 % FT shooter, now all of a sudden he is a 50% shooter?????



I Told for you guys other day

They (Spurs coaches) are trying change Splitter's free throw style... one reasons of his bad %.

[Rummpd]

I don't care if he only makes 50% of his FTs, Shaq, Howard and Wilt (and Duncan at times) all had limitations at the line, and he does not need to be on the floor at the end just more!

[TD 21]

Quality post son, other than the green/anderson, part. Its good to see your bonner love has dissipated, and you've seen the essence of the matter.

I never had any "Bonner love". That's what I was trying to explain to you, among others, in that thread. My whole thing was what was best for the team. I don't know why it was so difficult to grasp.

As for Green/Anderson, it's a non rotation spot, but it's still an active roster spot and a spot where, if one of the five rotation players on the perimeter succumbs to injury, the player in this spot will be counted on to play some minutes. At this point, Green has a better chance at giving this team adequate minutes than Anderson. Also, for end of quarter defensive stands, he could be an option.

I like Anderson and see him as a better long term prospect, but unfortunately for him, we live in the present. He's just not in good enough shape and has missed too much time to be counted on this season. He's also not like Neal, who thinks he's better than he is (and I mean that in a good way). He's tentative, doesn't want to step on anyone's toes. The Spurs need someone who's sure of themselves, in game shape and capable of playing adhesive defense.

[ezau]

I would love to see Duncan/Splitter to start. If not, I would love for both of these guys to play more minutes together. I've been totally impressed with how Tiago is playing right now and I think he has developed good chemistry with Hill.

George has to stay at the two spot because that's where he's gonna wreck havoc. Hill and Tiago should come off the bench and Manu or TP should play the point.

[Strategic]

It's easy to see both sides of the issues with Splitter.

His raw abilities and size make him a great 2 to 3 year project for the team.

His raw abilities and size give the fans hope that he can put the team over the top this year.

Who gets their way in these matters? The Big :hat. It sucks but what can you do...

[Tuddy]

Bonner and Dice will have the minutes at the 4 in the playoffs. Splitter has taken the 10-15 minutes as the backup 5 off Blair.

[Spurs da champs]

Agreed. And the fact that Bonner (and Jefferson) is playing so horrifically and soft, I think Splitter might've cracked it. But you never know with Gregg Popovich.

He's outplaying Blair as well.

[duncan228]

Just quotes, hit the link for the whole piece.


Splitter, Hill have been bright spots in skid (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/29/splitter-hill-have-been-bright-spots-in-skid/)
Jeff McDonald

..."I’m getting more confident and feeling like I’m part of the team,” the 25-year-old Brazilian said.


..."It’s been in my head that I need to get back to being aggressive,” Hill, a 6-foot-3 reserve guard, said after totaling 57 points the past two games.


..."You forget he was the best player in Europe the last couple years,” center DeJuan Blair said. “Now he’s finding his way.”


..."Even though I watched a lot of NBA games before I got here, it’s not the same as when you can get on the court and see them work,” said Splitter, who had 14 points and nine rebounds against Portland.


..."We’d like to continue to see George continue to play with that kind of scoring mentality,” Popovich said. “He’s good at it, and we need it.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/29/splitter-hill-have-been-bright-spots-in-skid/

[gospursgojas]

I approve of this thread. As hard as I've been on Tiago this year, I've stated that I'd rather be wrong about Tiago and have a servicable big, than be right about Tiago and him sucking forevers.

[robot89]

I hope he plays a meaningful amount of mins tonight.

[Strategic]

I think some would agree that Duncan, McDyess and Splitter match up with Bynum, Gasol and Odom much better than the alternatives the Spur's roster has to offer. This would allow Blair and Bonner to share the remaining front court minutes. I personally think that Novak is a 3 position player. Matched up with Artest I think that Novak would come out on the positive end simply because Artest gets lazy on D. This would also give the Spurs a length advantage on the Lakers, which no one seems to have these days. This gives Pop the option of using RJ, Neal and Manu to try to stay with Bryant, and thus keeping Manu from having to spend so much energy trying to stay with Kobe for too much of the game. As always, if Parker is aggresive then DF will be useless.


:flag::wakeup:flag::wakeup:flag:

[rolled up $20]

Tiago is on a roll and needs more action.

[SenorSpur]

I never doubted Splitter. He's actually been solid all season, despite novice fans complaints. Whether he struggles or not, he's still 6-11, mobile, adept at making timely rotations and drawing charges. In other words, he's a presence. He's also good at drawing fouls. Sure, he's a sub par free throw shooter, but at least he contributes to getting the Spurs into the bonus, which is valuable.

I'm 50/50 between Bonner/Blair. If they make the change I'm suggesting (which isn't happening), then I'd probably give Blair the first crack. If they stand pat or go with Splitter over Blair on the second unit, I'd probably give Bonner the first crack (short leash, though). But if he continues this indifferent, no confidence, mentally/physically weak play, then I wouldn't even give him that.

Agree. In fact, If I were Pop, I'd look at giving Novak some of Bonner's minutes - which would open up more minutes for Splitter. Novak is simply a more aggressive and confident offensive player.

[SenorSpur]

This team needs to consider a drastic change to their rotation.

Not only is it beyond obvious that Splitter should be at minimum the third big, but they should consider starting him. That would allow McDyess to come off the bench, which he prefers and it would allow them to go with Blair over Bonner without worrying about having a big with no range on the floor. Theoretically, the defense and rebounding would be improved with these two changes.

Green has two things Anderson doesn't: confidence and swagger. Also, Anderson isn't in anything close to game shape. 5:30 into the second half, he was gasping for air. Unfortunately, he's not going to be of use for the team this season. I'd strongly consider activating Green over him in perpetuity.

Solid takes. :tu

[Mugen]

There's two things I'm almost positive Pop won't do this season:

1. Start TD/Splitter.
2. Have Splitter off the bench before Bonner.

I wish otherwise but if you still believe that Pop will play Splitter over Bonner then you're gonna be sadly disappointed come playoffs.

I would never wish injury on any player except Jason Terry. Especially not someone on our team. But the only chance Pop does either of those things above is if Bonner got hurt.

[Obstructed_View]

There's two things I'm almost positive Pop won't do this season:

1. Start TD/Splitter.
2. Have Splitter off the bench before Bonner.

I wish otherwise but if you still believe that Pop will play Splitter over Bonner then you're gonna be sadly disappointed come playoffs.

I would never wish injury on any player except Juwan Howard. Especially not someone on our team. But the only chance Pop does either of those things above is if Bonner got hurt.

Fixed

[jmanu20]

I would never wish injury on any player except Jason Terry. Especially not someone on our team. But the only chance Pop does either of those things above is if Bonner got hurt.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, haha.

To get back on the thread topic, YES, Splitter absolutely needs to stay in the rotation. He did a fine job against Aldridge in both games vs. the Blazers, and I would love to see him get a crack at KG tonight.

[ace3g]

Tiago works extra tweaking his foul shot


The shot Splitter appeared to have the most success with Thursday morning had a distinct movement where he placed the ball in his right hand and then shot the ball. It completely removed his left hand out of his shooting motion.

It’s a curious looking stroke, but one where improvement is important. His chances of playing more in the fourth quarter will depend on him not being a liability from the foul line in latter stages of the game.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/03/31/tiago-works-extra-tweaking-his-foul-shot/

[Rummpd]

Sigh as good as Duncan and others playing would love to see Splitter as few minutes at least tonight but Pop might be saving him for the back to back?

[jeebus]

Splitter won't be seeing the floor tonight unfortunately, looks like it's gonna be all Bonner.

[toki9]

Pop is such a stubborn SOB

[Mugen]

There's two things I'm almost positive Pop won't do this season:

1. Start TD/Splitter.
2. Have Splitter off the bench before Bonner.

I wish otherwise but if you still believe that Pop will play Splitter over Bonner then you're gonna be sadly disappointed come playoffs.

I would never wish injury on any player except Jason Terry. Especially not someone on our team. But the only chance Pop does either of those things above is if Bonner got hurt.

:toast

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope the rotation we saw in the 1st half today is the one we'll see in the playoffs.

I don't know who should play, Blair or Bonner, the only thing I know is Tiago has to be in rotation and Blair and Bonner can't play together.

[duncan228]

...Tiago Splitter got an early call Sunday — earlier than he has in most games this season as he appears to have supplanted DeJuan Blair in the rotation for at least one game. Splitter got the call when Duncan went out with 3:45 left in the first quarter. Blair didn’t enter until the second half. Splitter provides more of a defensive presence than Blair and their offensive production has been similar. One concern playing Splitter into the fourth quarter because of his foul-shooting woes. But considering Marcin Gortat, Hakim Warrick, Garret Siler and Channing Frye were on the other side made it an ideal chance for Popovich to allow Splitter to stretch his wings. The Spurs hope that his work Sunday will help him get into a groove with the playoffs approaching.

Five quick thoughts: Why Hill shooting isn’t a bad thing for Spurs (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/five-quick-thoughts-why-hill-shooting-isnt-a-bad-thing-for-spurs/)
Tim Griffin

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/five-quick-thoughts-why-hill-shooting-isnt-a-bad-thing-for-spurs/

[toki9]

Pop's a stubborn SOB, but that could also be seen as being loyal to your players who have bled for you. It's really hard to earn his trust, but once you get it, you're given a long leash--even if that leash ends up strangling the team (Finley, I'm looking at you. And, yes, it wasn't hard for Finley to earn his trust for whatever reason.)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

WAKE UP, POP! We're not going anywhere with Bonner playing and Splitter sitting. Time to get over your rookie fear and give the guy minutes. We will need him in the playoffs.

Get it done!

[Doe]

I love how Tim Griffin seems to have a new excuse for why Splitter doesn't play in the 4th (didn't apply today). At least the poor foul shooting has some merit. Much better than that fragile confidence bullshit.

[LakerHater]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2cf86r5.jpg

[Spursmania]

:lmao no freaking way with this coach.

[toki9]

I love how Tim Griffin seems to have a new excuse for why Splitter doesn't play in the 4th (didn't apply today). At least the poor foul shooting has some merit. Much better than that fragile confidence bullshit.

i think the poor free throw shooting thing can get overblown...it's still another foul on the other team, and closer to penalty.

[Strategic]

I hope the rotation we saw in the 1st half today is the one we'll see in the playoffs.

I don't know who should play, Blair or Bonner, the only thing I know is Tiago has to be in rotation and Blair and Bonner can't play together.


Since Blair plays the same position as Splitter he has to be the third center on the team, or the fifth big. Sorry DeJuan, but Matt gets the not, although the Spurs still need you to play your heart out.

[jag]

i think the poor free throw shooting thing can get overblown...it's still another foul on the other team, and closer to penalty.

His stroke isn't even the same as it was at the beginning of the season. It's obvious the Spurs staff have been tweaking that thing throughout the season. I think we could end up seeing Splitter as a decent, 70% FT shooter within the next couple seasons, but for now it's going to be a very up-and-down process. The best thing we can hope for is for Splitter to get comfortable, not over-think and hit a hot streak from the line, because at this point it isn't going to be pure mechanics or natural rhythm that get him success.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Pop praised Splitter postgame. Would have liked to have seen what 2nd-half rotation would have looked like had score not been so lopsided.


His stroke isn't even the same as it was at the beginning of the season. It's obvious the Spurs staff have been tweaking that thing throughout the season. I think we could end up seeing Splitter as a decent, 70% FT shooter within the next couple seasons, but for now it's going to be a very up-and-down process. The best thing we can hope for is for Splitter to get comfortable, not over-think and hit a hot streak from the line, because at this point it isn't going to be pure mechanics or natural rhythm that get him success.


Exactly, every time someone mentions his FT form being bad I will post this: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5090804#post5090804

Blame the coaching staff, not Splitter.

[Josepatches_]

Splitter isn't a good free throw shooter.That's what I could say from him in Spain and I watched him in a lot of games.That's the first impression he gives to you

But looking his stats last year he had an amazing 79% from the line in 30 games.He's one of those kind of guys who can made 6 in a row after an airball /brick but the missed ones are what you can remember because they are really ugly so you think he sucks from the FT line.

He was between 65-70 all his career.Of course Spurs can work with him to improve.All the players can improve.Duncan is working on his FT and he's shooting better every year.The FT% can be the same but the shots are better in my opinion.


Anyway Tiago had been playing pro-basketball a lot of years.It's not like the Spurs has magic that we don't have in Spain.
In fact some techniques of the game like shot or passing are worked as good if not better in Europe since players are very young.For example Gasol improved his game in the NBA but not his JS at all.I would say it was even better before he came to the NBA when he was 20 .


He's not playing and that's the main reason why he miss the free throws and why he miss some easy lay ups.Playing time.

[angel_luv]

I am really rooting for Tiago.

He seems a bit green at times, but I appreciate his effort and look forward to his development on the Spurs.

[Ice009]

I hope the rotation we saw in the 1st half today is the one we'll see in the playoffs.

I don't know who should play, Blair or Bonner, the only thing I know is Tiago has to be in rotation and Blair and Bonner can't play together.

I like the rotation too. Splitter can come in for either Tim or Antonio. That is the rotation Pop should always go with so Splitter is in with either Bonner or Blair.

If Splitter does well then you play him in the second half too. I really would have liked to have seen the second half rotation if the score wasn't so lopsided.


i think the poor free throw shooting thing can get overblown...it's still another foul on the other team, and closer to penalty.

Exactly. Who cares if he misses his free throws as he probably won't be in at the end of the game. If Splitter gets them into the bonus early you can sub him out and bring the regulars in and they can be more aggressive taking it to the rack and getting free throws. If Splitter can hit 50% I would be happy with that, and in general if he can keep drawing fouls at the rate he does when he gets inside that would help a lot.

[analyzed]

It's wishful thinking to expect pop to drop Bonner out of the playoff rotation. he definetly will be Dice main sub when he comes out in the first.

Realistically the best we can hope from Pop is have Splitter as TD's main sub, as he was in the Pheonix game , coming in with 3 minutes in the 1st. Hopefully he comes in at the same time at the 3rd quarter as well and starts the 4th, with TD finishing the game. This is all we can expect from Pop.

This means Blair will be the odd man out in the playoffs.

[NickiRasgo]

I'm actually impressed with his performance even though his playing time is limited, he can still contribute for the team.

[temujin]

Splitter enters the game at Spurs +4.
Exits at Spurs +24 and game over.

In those 10', can anyone remember points scored by the Suns in the paint, at all?

Enough said.

[GrandeDavid]

SpursBrazil, eu concordo com voce. Alias, nos nao temos chance nenhum contra Los Angeles sem Tiago. Precisamos do tamanho e velocidade dele na quadra, mas nos ja sabemos disso. Eu tenho certeza que ele vai ser um "starter" em 2011-12, mas neste ano e playoffs eu espero que ele jogasse um minimo de 8-12 minutos. Quero mais, mas teria que ter pessimo desempenhos de outros jogadores nos playoffs, o qual e bem possivel!!

[Obstructed_View]

Are you kidding me? The Suns don't have an inside game. They have 7 footers who do everything they can to stay outside the three point line.

Gortat, where dat, I'm fat

I agree with you that he holds his own on defense. It's just that he tries these dipsy-do finishes in the lane on offense. With his upper body strength he should be hanging on the rim so much people be looking for a cord to turn on the light.

Gortat and Lopez are three point shooters?

:lol at you complaining about Splitter's offensive game.

[urunobili]

splitter enters the game at spurs +4.
Exits at spurs +24 and game over.

In those 10', can anyone remember points scored by the suns in the paint, at all?

Enough said.

this

[Strategic]

Gortat and Lopez are three point shooters?

:lol at you complaining about Splitter's offensive game.


Sorry about that I was actually speaking of Blair and the way he has been finishing his shots.

[temujin]

SpursBrazil, eu concordo com voce. Alias, nos nao temos chance nenhum contra Los Angeles sem Tiago. Precisamos do tamanho e velocidade dele na quadra, mas nos ja sabemos disso. Eu tenho certeza que ele vai ser um "starter" em 2011-12, mas neste ano e playoffs eu espero que ele jogasse um minimo de 8-12 minutos. Quero mais, mas teria que ter pessimo desempenhos de outros jogadores nos playoffs, o qual e bem possivel!!

There you go, let's say it in another language, in case Popovich speaks any portughese.

[Cessation]

When pop didn't put splitter in the third, and instead went with bonner/blair, suns went on a run, taking it to the paint, like it was a layup drill. Damn, that lineup is so consistently bad, why does he keep going with it? Whats wrong with Splitter subbing in for Duncan and playing with Bonner/Blair. I noticed he plays well with both of them.

[Ice009]

When pop didn't put splitter in the third, and instead went with bonner/blair, suns went on a run, taking it to the paint, like it was a layup drill. Damn, that lineup is so consistently bad, why does he keep going with it? Whats wrong with Splitter subbing in for Duncan and playing with Bonner/Blair. I noticed he plays well with both of them.

It just doesn't look like Pop has learned much at all. He cannot play the Bonner/Blair lineup 1 minute in the playoffs. It's so horrible of a lineup. People were right about it when he first used it.

[ace3g]

More Tiago could be on the docket


Popovich would not say whether the rotation tweak would be permanent or if it would carry over to tonight’s game against Atlanta. Pairing the 6-foot-11 Splitter with Matt Bonner, however, would give the Spurs the size they’ve been lacking off the bench since Antonio McDyess’ elevation to the starting lineup 14 games ago.

Before Sunday’s game, Popovich said he had been satisfied with the Blair-Bonner combination. Afterward, he praised Splitter’s handling of the early call.

“He did a good job in battling,” Popovich said of Splitter.

“He’s a tough customer, and he does a good job with that."

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/05/more-tiago-could-be-on-the-docket/

[DBMethos]

Before Sunday’s game, Popovich said he had been satisfied with the Blair-Bonner combination.

How can anyone be satisfied with it? Seriously!!!!! :lmao

[Mugen]

More Tiago could be on the docket



http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/05/more-tiago-could-be-on-the-docket/

Pop has said the same shit all year long praising Tiago whenever he gets significant playing time but then relegates him to the end of the bench the next game.

Pop knows the Blair/Bonner combo is horrible but he'll never admit it because it means admitting he was wrong for making the Dice switch in the first place. He will not admit to that until after we get knocked out of the playoffs.

How's that for being fair to the team....

[Obstructed_View]

Pop complimenting Splitter in the media is the equivalent of an owner giving a reassuring statement about a coach to the media. Expect Splitter to get garbage minutes against Atlanta.

[Obstructed_View]

So tired of being right all the time...

[SplitterHook]

So tired of being right all the time...

damn, so effin true.

[WeNeedLength]

If we have to deal with this shit in the playoffs, it's going to be one sad way to end a season.

[MaNu4Tres]

Ignorance is expensive...

Too expensive for this team.

Thanks Pop :tu

[Thomas82]

if we have to deal with this shit in the playoffs, it's going to be one sad way to end a season.


ignorance is expensive...

Too expensive for this team.

Thanks pop :tu

+1

[HarlemHeat37]

What happened to "earning minutes"?..

That excuse was valid when Splitter was up and down earlier in the season(not IMO, he still should have played, but it's understandable, I suppose)..

Duncan gets injured, Splitter comes in, plays nearly double-double basketball when he's out there, including very good individual and help D..

His reward? a benching..

Pop randomly gives him minutes vs. Phoenix, Splitter plays very well, as usual..his reward in the next game? 0 minutes in the 2nd half vs. Phoenix, 0 minutes in the 1st half vs. Atlanta..

Shouldn't playing time be "earned"?..that's what Pop defenders had been saying for years..

[mingus]

I stopped holding my breath a while ago and I think everyone should to. Popovoch's coaching will be the downfall to this team, as it was ing the 6 game losing streak. He's gone full retard. Let's all just accept it.

[timtonymanu]

It's like Pop is really trying to throw the season away.

What more proof does he need that this lineup doesnt work?

[TD 21]

What's most perplexing is the fact that it's not like Blair is a veteran, who's helped this team win a championship(s), to where you could understand if there were a loyalty factor at work here. He's a second year player, with less overall pro experience than Splitter. On top of that, the main skill Blair has on Splitter (rebounding), Blair's been progressively worse, while Splitter has progressively been better at. So if the disparity in that area is minimized, what possible reason could there be to play Blair over him? Other than the fact that this coach is ignorant and stubborn.

[MaNu4Tres]

What happened to "earning minutes"?..

That excuse was valid when Splitter was up and down earlier in the season(not IMO, he still should have played, but it's understandable, I suppose)..

Duncan gets injured, Splitter comes in, plays nearly double-double basketball when he's out there, including very good individual and help D..

His reward? a benching..

Pop randomly gives him minutes vs. Phoenix, Splitter plays very well, as usual..his reward in the next game? 0 minutes in the 2nd half vs. Phoenix, 0 minutes in the 1st half vs. Atlanta..

Shouldn't playing time be "earned"?..that's what Pop defenders had been saying for years..

We have the most stubborn coach in the NBA. Nothing new here. Pop will over-think and over analyze strategy, instead of noticing and going with the obvious. He's done it the past 5 seasons-- which has cost the team much more than the obvious Pop homers want to believe-- fortunately for us the competition was very weak in 2007 (compared to 2008-now) and we won the championship in the WCSF against the championship favored Phoenix Suns (:lol).

[mingus]

Taiga holds Aldridge to 14 points, which was unbelievable, and he's reward by getting benches. Full retard.

[timtonymanu]

Taiga holds Aldridge to 14 points, which was unbelievable, and he's reward by getting benches. Full retard.

Yeah remember when Tiago didnt play against Portland and Aldridge got 40.

[Obstructed_View]

Splitter must have been really bad in practice.

[Mugen]

Splitter must have been really bad in practice.

or the Turd Towers must be absolutely dominating Dice/Timmy.

[thOOdee]

dude...is there really a secret relationship between bonner and pop....im dead serious..or some blackmail shit.....great win....but jeez what does pop see in him

[Chomag]

What happened to "earning minutes"?..

That excuse was valid when Splitter was up and down earlier in the season(not IMO, he still should have played, but it's understandable, I suppose)..

Duncan gets injured, Splitter comes in, plays nearly double-double basketball when he's out there, including very good individual and help D..

His reward? a benching..

Pop randomly gives him minutes vs. Phoenix, Splitter plays very well, as usual..his reward in the next game? 0 minutes in the 2nd half vs. Phoenix, 0 minutes in the 1st half vs. Atlanta..

Shouldn't playing time be "earned"?..that's what Pop defenders had been saying for years..

Playing Splitter would not be fair to the team. Or at least thats what Pop said :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

This season's getting a whole lot less interesting. Does anyone truly believe in Bonner/Blair?
1st round flameout possible
2nd round dismissal likely
3rd round highly improbable
Finals: laughable

[MaNu4Tres]

Splitter must have been really bad in practice.

Sad thing is they hardly ever (or never) have full all-out practices during the season.

95% of their "practices" consist of shoot arounds-- briefly implementing new wrinkles (walk throughs) on the defensive and offensive end (mostly this) for the upcoming opponent-- and film-- hardly ever do they scrimmage or go 100% simulating live game scenarios.

The end of practice is when the players, that hardly get any playing time, work individually with a coach or play 2 on 2 with the other bench warmers.

Don't forget the great interviews at the end as well.

[carina_gino20]

Pop's already said that the defense is as good (or bad?) as it's gonna be. If you believe that, then it should tell you that Splitter, to him, doesn't make a difference one way or the other.

Splitter obviously needs to get over himself...

[Obstructed_View]

Sad thing is they hardly ever (or never) have full all-out practices during the season.

95% of their "practices" consist of shoot arounds-- briefly implementing new wrinkles (walk throughs) on the defensive and offensive end (mostly this) for the upcoming opponent-- and film-- hardly ever do they scrimmage or go 100% simulating live game scenarios.

The end of practice is when the players, that hardly get any playing time, work individually with a coach or play 2 on 2 with the other bench warmers.

Don't forget the great interviews at the end as well.

"Practice" is what the fans don't see and Pop does, which is why Pop makes the decisions that he does, because Pop is smart and fans are not, because 4 rings faggot.

[Chomag]

Sad thing is they hardly ever (or never) have full all-out practices during the season.

95% of their "practices" consist of shoot arounds-- briefly implementing new wrinkles (walk throughs) on the defensive and offensive end (mostly this) for the upcoming opponent-- and film-- hardly ever do they scrimmage or go 100% simulating live game scenarios.

The end of practice is when the players, that hardly get any playing time, work individually with a coach or play 2 on 2 with the other bench warmers.

Don't forget the great interviews at the end as well.

I think he was more being sarcastic with that. IT has usualy been the go to excuse for the Pop fans when Pop would not play certain players.

[Uriel]

Tim played 34:24 tonight. With a back-to-back looming tomorrow against the Kings, wouldn't you expect him to sit out tomorrow's game and have Splitter start in his place?

[JustinJDW]

It's one thing to simply dislike the fact that a player you like on the Spurs is getting limited minutes. It's an entire other thing to completely bash and criticize that coach's strategy and vision, and call the man a stubborn fool. Especially when that man has four fucking championships to his name.

I hope some of you spoiled bipolar fans realize that.

[Chomag]

It's one thing to simply dislike the fact that a player you like on the Spurs is getting limited minutes. It's an entire other thing to completely bash and criticize that coach's strategy and vision, and call the man a stubborn fool. Especially when that man has four fucking championships to his name.

I hope some of you spoiled bipolar fans realize that.

I thought this was 2011? I guess we can allways be stuck in 2008 though.

[HarlemHeat37]

It also sucks that they could be using Splitter to lessen the wear and tear on McDyess, tbh..Dice is an old-ass man, relying on him to play 30+ minutes in the playoffs is foolish..

[MaNu4Tres]

It also sucks that they could be using Splitter to lessen the wear and tear on McDyess, tbh..Dice is an old-ass man, relying on him to play 30+ minutes in the playoffs is foolish..

Couldn't agree more. :tu

IMO Dyess will make the most contribution if his minutes are limited to 20 tops. He doesn't have it in him to be as effective playing nearly 30 minutes a night come playoff time. (When extra effort (energy) is needed just about every possession.)

[Old School 44]

Pop's trying to "break" Splitter. Why, I don't know?
He always seems to play these mental games with players, especially new ones. It started with Tony, Manu and Jacks. Since it was somewhat successful with these three, he ran with this formula for almost all his players going forward. Some make it through the hazing, others just get "broke"...see Jefferson, a potential 15-18pt slasher/scorer, reduced to a spot up three point shooter.

[Obstructed_View]

It's one thing to simply dislike the fact that a player you like on the Spurs is getting limited minutes. It's an entire other thing to completely bash and criticize that coach's strategy and vision, and call the man a stubborn fool. Especially when that man has four fucking championships to his name.

I hope some of you spoiled bipolar fans realize that.

Since that stubborn fool cost the Spurs a fifth fucking ring in 2006 because he decided to bench the center rotation on a 63 win team and refused to play the starting center for the 2007 championship team for no other reason than he was a (31 year old) rookie, the fans have every right to criticize when he does the exact same goddamn thing years later.

At least the "spoiled" fans realize that wasting opportunities as Tim Duncan's career winds down is fucking insanity.

[ace3g]

Blair continues to toggle with Tiago in a reserve role


ATLANTA — One game after not playing at all in the first half, DeJuan Blair was back as the Spurs’ second-unit center in Tuesday’s 97-90 victory over Atlanta.

Rookie Tiago Splitter was back to taking a DNP-CD.

Blair responded with a performance that was solid, but not spectacular, logging seven points and five rebounds in 13:06.

“My role is just to be ready at all times,” Blair said. “Because you never know.”

Blair admits not knowing hasn’t been easy over the past month, after he went from starting the first 53 games of the season to earning sporadic minutes off the bench.

“With the change in the lineup, I go back to thinking again — what do I do?” Blair said. “I’ve got to get that out of my head, somehow.”


http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/05/blair-continues-to-toggle-with-tiago-in-a-reserve-role/

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the competition.

[timtonymanu]

It's one thing to simply dislike the fact that a player you like on the Spurs is getting limited minutes. It's an entire other thing to completely bash and criticize that coach's strategy and vision, and call the man a stubborn fool. Especially when that man has four fucking championships to his name.

I hope some of you spoiled bipolar fans realize that.

This is such a cliched Pop homer post.

[timtonymanu]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the competition.

I have to agree with McDonald on this. I think Blair needs to be the odd man out in the bigs rotation. We all know Pop will never cut Bonner's minutes, but he needs to do it with Blair in favor of Splitter.

[Obstructed_View]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the competition.

I call BS on McDonald for like the 1,000th time. In Pop's lineups, Blair's playing center and Splitter's playing power forward. If the above were true Splitter would have gotten some time with Duncan.

[5in10]

I would love to see a blair/splitter combination off the bench. Sick.

[ace3g]

I just find it odd that Pop can't figure out a rotation using all of them:

Duncan/Dice

Splitter/Bonner

Dice/Blair

Duncan/Bonner

The key is that Blair and Bonner can never be on the court at the same time and always with either Duncan, Dice, or Splitter.

[Capt Bringdown]

I just find it odd that Pop can't figure out a rotation using all of them.

Exactly.

Splitter would be a starter on many if not most NBA teams. Serviceable 7-footers are extremely hard to come by.

Yet for Pop, Splitter is an asset that we can afford to squander, to leave rotting on the bench.

[mingus]

the proof that Pop has lost his ability to make sane decisions will be in the pudding in the playoffs. Memphis will just absolutely abuse, abuse, the Bonner-Blair frontline just as they have in the regular season. fortunately for Pop is incompetency in that regard will masked by all the talent he's got to work with. they meet LA and Bonner-Blair will not be masked, and Pop's dumb ass decision to not develope Splitter in the reg. season will be exposed. and i've been sayin that since the Spurs won the first game against LA by 20. small ball doesn't work and it won't work this year.

you have a guy in Splitter that held one of the best pfs in Aldridge to one of his worst games this season (14 & 9). yet Pop doesn't find that kind of defensive ability of any use agains the best frontline in the league. it pisses me off to know that Duncan won't have ample help in what may be his last year (never know), when it's been there the whole year. unfucking believable. Splitter is literally the dude we've been waiting for for the last 4 years. it's the dude Duncan's been waiting for. :bang

let's put things into prespective though. Popovich has lost his mind. and he lost it before the Splitter fiasco. the last few years he's simply made bad decisions and said very retarded things. let's go through them:

1. virtually not playing Bowen and Hill against the Mavs in '08 until the series was lost. instead he put all his faith in defensless Finley and old as Jacque Vaugh. :bang:bang

2. remember when he said that RJ was Stephen Jackson without all the drama? who the fuck in their right mind would make that statement? anyone who can rationalize that themselves is out to lunch. :lmao

3. calling Bogans the centerpiece :lol:lol:lol

Poop has just lost it.

[howbouthemspurs]

I think Tiago will be fine.. Pop is the master and he has a master plan

[mystargtr34]

Blair continues to toggle with Tiago in a reserve role


ATLANTA — One game after not playing at all in the first half, DeJuan Blair was back as the Spurs’ second-unit center in Tuesday’s 97-90 victory over Atlanta.

Rookie Tiago Splitter was back to taking a DNP-CD.

Blair responded with a performance that was solid, but not spectacular, logging seven points and five rebounds in 13:06.

“My role is just to be ready at all times,” Blair said. “Because you never know.”

Blair admits not knowing hasn’t been easy over the past month, after he went from starting the first 53 games of the season to earning sporadic minutes off the bench.

“With the change in the lineup, I go back to thinking again — what do I do?” Blair said. “I’ve got to get that out of my head, somehow.”


http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/05/blair-continues-to-toggle-with-tiago-in-a-reserve-role/

Blair is starting to sound really butthurt about being relegated. He needs to be quiet or just leave it at 'Im ready to play when my number gets called'. Splitter kept his mouth shut all season and said the right things while sitting on the bench behind Matt Bonner and DeJuan Blair.

Blair is obviously a great kid and has contributed well this season.. but he needs to realise he has no business starting on a championship contender.

[analyzed]

I agree with this, it's not so much using Bonner but it is using him with Blair, however let me qualify this , playing Bonner 20 min especially when he is not clicking and 10 minutes stretches is just way to long , and it exposes us significantly. I totally understand putting in a speicalist shooter for short stretches but last I heard using one dimentional specialist like Steve Kerr , were never used consistently over 10 min stetches game after game as bonner is used.


JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the competition.

[Isitjustme?]

Since that stubborn fool cost the Spurs a fifth fucking ring in 2006 because he decided to bench the center rotation on a 63 win team and refused to play the starting center for the 2007 championship team for no other reason than he was a (31 year old) rookie, the fans have every right to criticize when he does the exact same goddamn thing years later.

At least the "spoiled" fans realize that wasting opportunities as Tim Duncan's career winds down is fucking insanity.

Exactly how I feel.

[rmt]

Any hope that Pop is going to use Splitter for any extended minutes in the playoffs went down the drain last night. If he won't use him until the last 5 mins. on a back-to-back playing SAC what are the chances he plays him against LA when it really counts.

I think he's really lost his mind. Playing Blair/Bonner puts the team in a hole that TP/Manu/TD have to expend wasted energy to pull them out of. That's not going to cut it in the playoffs where every possession counts. Spurs' margin for error is already razor-thin - all the pins have to line up and they have to get lucky to win it all. Pop's stubbornness is going to be their downfall if he's expecting to get by on mistake-free execution on offense and Blair/Bonner combo. What a shame.

[Obstructed_View]

Any hope that Pop is going to use Splitter for any extended minutes in the playoffs went down the drain last night. If he won't use him until the last 5 mins. on a back-to-back playing SAC what are the chances he plays him against LA when it really counts.

I think he's really lost his mind. Playing Blair/Bonner puts the team in a hole that TP/Manu/TD have to expend wasted energy to pull them out of. That's not going to cut it in the playoffs where every possession counts. Spurs' margin for error is already razor-thin - all the pins have to line up and they have to get lucky to win it all. Pop's stubbornness is going to be their downfall if he's expecting to get by on mistake-free execution on offense and Blair/Bonner combo. What a shame.

Well put, but like I mentioned in another thread, we've collectively beaten this to death now. The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last night's rotation. They've wrapped up home court against the Lakers, which is really all that matters. Time to just put on our fan hats and root for them, IMO.

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The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last year's rotation.

Save for Neal, what's the diff? Bonnerball doesn't work -Pop had a chance to turn the page, but chose to turn his back on the fundamental basketball.

"All that really matters" is putting the best possible team on the floor, not HCA.
HCA won't make Bonnerball work in the playoffs.

Despite the histrionics, supporting the Spurs is a given. Who appointed you gatekeeper? Folks will talk about what they want to talk about.

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Save for Neal, what's the diff? Bonnerball doesn't work -Pop had a chance to turn the page, but chose to turn his back on the fundamental basketball.

"All that really matters" is putting the best possible team on the floor, not HCA.
HCA won't make Bonnerball work in the playoffs.

Despite the histrionics, supporting the Spurs is a given. Who appointed you gatekeeper? Folks will talk about what they want to talk about.

I love that you're lecturing me about smallball, Splitter, Bonner or Popovich. I've certainly never heard any of this before. :lol

Yeah, you're the prime example of rehashing the same useless arguments over and over again. BTW, when have you supported the Spurs? You've been talking up the Lakers most of the year, then you suddenly jumped on the Splitter-doesn't-play-enough bandwagon six months late and have continued to use it to announce this season a failure and the outcome of the playoffs a foregone conclusion

With your track record, attempting to brand me a forum cop for telling you guys to let it fucking go and start rooting for the team to do well is doubly laughable.

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
For like the 1,000th time: Matt Bonner is not taking any of Splitter's pt. Pop has decided on Blair over Splitter. THAT'S the competition.

Unfortunately we all know that’s true. Pop won’t play Tiago and Blair together and I also think those 2 won’t work well. The best thing now is Tiago play ahead of Blair.

[spurs50_]

I like dice, don't get me wrong,but I hope he retires. As long as he is on the roster he will be the starter. If it's not the old guy it will be the short guy. Tiago will never get on the court except in garbage time. Get your ring dice and call it a career.

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

I just find it odd that Pop can't figure out a rotation using all of them:

Duncan/Dice

Splitter/Bonner

Dice/Blair

Duncan/Bonner

The key is that Blair and Bonner can never be on the court at the same time and always with either Duncan, Dice, or Splitter.

i dont find it that odd, i mean the guy is overhyped any man will look like a genius when you have the best power forward of all time, see bill russel after he left, and so on,

its not a big deal and while im very honored to have such a respected coach im not a dumbass who thinks its pop who gave us rings, actually its more tim duncan and r.c buford than you think i think pop is more like bonner in a way while he is very methodical /consistent and respectful he is very lacking in overall talent

remember pop didnt draft manu pop also didnt draft parker and yes he wanted duncan but who didnt?? think for yourself people

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

theres a reason why he treats all the talent we have like shit yet all the guys who are old kiss asses like allstars its because hes given the talent and works with it people have the misconception of pop being some scout genius and that is exactly the opposite the man with all the talent/magic and created our success as an organization is RC BUFORD more than anybody while there were alot of people who arent getting credit.

so when i bitch about pop im not some lebron drinking punk who is talking out of his ass, so people who protect pop need to relax and know who does what in this org. i can bet you if we had pop scouting our team would be filled with unathletic red heads, i think pop has a soft spot to unathletic white guys who try and play pro he sees himself in these type of players and is in some way (im sure) bitter about not being drafted or given the chance to go pro due to real scouts.

thats why i say bonner is a fucking piece of garbage because he is and pop knows damn well he shouldnt be given these ridiculous amount of minutes.

[Mel_13]

Well put, but like I mentioned in another thread, we've collectively beaten this to death now. The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last night's rotation. They've wrapped up home court against the Lakers, which is really all that matters. Time to just put on our fan hats and root for them, IMO.


I love that you're lecturing me about smallball, Splitter, Bonner or Popovich. I've certainly never heard any of this before. :lol

Yeah, you're the prime example of rehashing the same useless arguments over and over again. BTW, when have you supported the Spurs? You've been talking up the Lakers most of the year, then you suddenly jumped on the Splitter-doesn't-play-enough bandwagon six months late and have continued to use it to announce this season a failure and the outcome of the playoffs a foregone conclusion

With your track record, attempting to brand me a forum cop for telling you guys to let it fucking go and start rooting for the team to do well is doubly laughable.

:clap

[Brazil]

Well put, but like I mentioned in another thread, we've collectively beaten this to death now. The Spurs are going to go into the playoffs with last night's rotation. They've wrapped up home court against the Lakers, which is really all that matters. Time to just put on our fan hats and root for them, IMO.

You are absolutely right but some of us are not on the acceptance stage yet.

I have to confess I'm myself on the depression stage which is good, a little effort and I will be on the acceptance then I will start to enjoy the moment.

60 wins, hca clinched, Tim Duncan and his bank shot, Manu and his crazy stuff, Speedy TP, our old crazy favorite coach, even our loved red rocket etc... for one of our last dance in POs we should all celebrate :toast and be ready :flag:

[Brazil]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:


1. Denial and Isolation. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading63)
2. Anger. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading64)
3. Bargaining. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading65)
4. Depression. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading66)
5. Acceptance. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading67)
then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm just praying to god the Spurs shoot 50% from three-land for the playoffs.

That's what it comes down to.

Especially against L.A (If we get there)...

[Mugen]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:


1. Denial and Isolation. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading63)
2. Anger. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading64)
3. Bargaining. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading65)
4. Depression. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading66)
5. Acceptance. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading67)

then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

:lmao:lmao so true when it comes to the Tiago situation....

Sadly, i've reached Acceptance. Hopefully the healing can now begin...

[Mel_13]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:


1. Denial and Isolation. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading63)
2. Anger. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading64)
3. Bargaining. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading65)
4. Depression. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading66)
5. Acceptance. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading67)
then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

I reached acceptance a long time ago.

Then Tiago played so well while Timmy was out that I've slid back to bargaining for Tiago to get Blair's minutes backing up Tim.

[Mugen]

I reached acceptance a long time ago.

Then Tiago played so well while Timmy was out that I've slid back to bargaining for Tiago to get Blair's minutes backing up Tim.

Yup.

Then depression when Timmmy came back from injury and Tiago got sent back to the bench.

Acceptance when he was the last guy off the bench on the 2nd night of a b2b against the fucking Sacramento Kings.

[jag]

I call BS on McDonald for like the 1,000th time. In Pop's lineups, Blair's playing center and Splitter's playing power forward. If the above were true Splitter would have gotten some time with Duncan.

This doesn't make any sense.

[Brazil]

Yup.

Then depression when Timmmy came back from injury and Tiago got sent back to the bench.

Acceptance when he was the last guy off the bench on the 2nd night of a b2b against the fucking Sacramento Kings.

the fact to regress to one stage in the process is absolutely normal.

I think a psy could get a lot of good material in ST to describe the 5 stages of grief.

1. Denial and Isolation. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading63)

"I'm sure Pop is preserving Tiago because he has been hurt, he is not at 100% yet but Pop will insert him into the rotation after the AS break."

2. Anger. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading64)
"Pop you studid stubborn, fuck you ! :bang Matt Bonner sucks, Pop is an old fool !"

3. Bargaining. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading65)

"Come on Pop give the kid some minutes, at least when Bonner is cold as fuck !! pleeeeaaassssseeeee play Tiago"

4. Depression. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading66)

"First round exit, we will never pass Memphis with the Turd Towers, thank you for wasting Tim Duncan's best year. I'm done with this team, they can all burn in hell."

5. Acceptance. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading67)

"Tiago won't play significant minutes during the POs, maybe during Garbage Time. At least he will be pretty good during the lockout. Now let's kick some lakers ass."

[Budkin]

the proof that Pop has lost his ability to make sane decisions will be in the pudding in the playoffs. Memphis will just absolutely abuse, abuse, the Bonner-Blair frontline just as they have in the regular season. fortunately for Pop is incompetency in that regard will masked by all the talent he's got to work with. they meet LA and Bonner-Blair will not be masked, and Pop's dumb ass decision to not develope Splitter in the reg. season will be exposed. and i've been sayin that since the Spurs won the first game against LA by 20. small ball doesn't work and it won't work this year.

you have a guy in Splitter that held one of the best pfs in Aldridge to one of his worst games this season (14 & 9). yet Pop doesn't find that kind of defensive ability of any use agains the best frontline in the league. it pisses me off to know that Duncan won't have ample help in what may be his last year (never know), when it's been there the whole year. unfucking believable. Splitter is literally the dude we've been waiting for for the last 4 years. it's the dude Duncan's been waiting for. :bang

let's put things into prespective though. Popovich has lost his mind. and he lost it before the Splitter fiasco. the last few years he's simply made bad decisions and said very retarded things. let's go through them:

1. virtually not playing Bowen and Hill against the Mavs in '08 until the series was lost. instead he put all his faith in defensless Finley and old as Jacque Vaugh. :bang:bang

2. remember when he said that RJ was Stephen Jackson without all the drama? who the fuck in their right mind would make that statement? anyone who can rationalize that themselves is out to lunch. :lmao

3. calling Bogans the centerpiece :lol:lol:lol

Poop has just lost it.

This x1000. It's completely insane.

[Brazil]

This x1000. It's completely insane.

anger stage ftw

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This doesn't make any sense.

You mean you don't understand it? Splitter should get more minutes, Bonner should get fewer minutes. That's about as simply as it can be put. McDonald's statement is completely wrong on a number of levels, not least of which is that Blair gets minutes at the center position and Splitter gets minutes at the power forward position.

[carina_gino20]

Oh and to help the others, define where you are:


1. Denial and Isolation. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading63)
2. Anger. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading64)
3. Bargaining. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading65)
4. Depression. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading66)
5. Acceptance. (http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-the-3.html#Heading67)
then be ready for the next stage.

I'm on the 4th floor, where are you at ?

:lol Brazil with the goods.

I'm like the others. I've already accepted the Tiago situation until Timmy went down and Tiago played well with more playing time. Now I'm back to anger/bargaining and will have to take the lift to the 5th floor in the next couple of games.

[SA210]

Jeff McDonald is a spineless sorry excuse for a reporter.

[TJastal]

I've been saying all year, the Spurs coaching staff did something to his FT form; if you look back at the World Championships and prior to that is form was much more fluid than that. It was the first thing I noticed, the first time he stepped to that line, he all of a sudden had a hitch right before he released the ball.

He was about a 70-75 % FT shooter, now all of a sudden he is a 50% shooter?????

Examples:
ZGYT7nGWoos

2:24 mark
VgA02ZWPzSU

:30 mark - 1:10
XFjeWYbfxBs&feature=related

1:25 mark - 1:55
KXVvjBDqaEE

Thanks Chip & Pop for completely fucking over my rookie nba season.

--Tiago