it's Bonners fault

[alchemist]

:lmao eat it haters, the team has serious flaws. yes bonner is one of them but those issues are beyond him (perimeter d, pick-n-roll d, help d......manu sucking in the clutch).

:hat

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner played great

25 minutes 0-5 FG all from 3

GO WATCH A GAME. Bonner is the worst thing that happened in Duncan era

[Rummpd]

Bonner is a ten man or worse. What a joke he gets 25 minutes with the recent productivity of Splitter and others.

[kaji157]

Well actually with him on, the team plays 4 on 5 on defense and 4 on 5 on offense lately.
It may seem strange to other coaches in the league how this guy gets 25+ minutes on regular basis with a single skill that diminishes when it cares.

[dbestpro]

I disagree. It's not Bonner's fault. It's Pop'a fault because there is no way Bonner would play so badly if he never left the bench.

[KaiRMD1]

Trade Bonner for Finley

[dallasmaverickslose]

Id rather have 4 players on the court that have 5 with Bonner

[dallasmaverickslose]

Trade Bonner for Kwame Brown

[ElNono]

lol entire 4th quarter and overtime :lmao
lol 5th big
lol 15 mpg

[slick'81]

bbb bonner

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/files/2011/01/Matt-Bonner-123-306x389.jpg

[Hooks]

Do you even watch him play? Just focus on him for 1 game, watch ALL of his late rotations (Do you even know what a rotation is?), too many players get wide open shots because of this and make them. It's no coincidence that other teams have made runs against the Spurs while he is in the game in the past 20 games or whatever number it is.

[Cessation]

lol next Robert Horry
lol 26 3pt% in last 13 games

[ElNono]

lol playing 4 on 6..

[slayermin]

Bonner should get two three point shots in the first half. If he hits at least one, then give him a look in the 2nd half. If he misses both, then sit him the rest of the game. This shit is getting old.

[kaji157]

Why can't he get injuried more often??????????

Or because he doesn't get any contact out there...

[siraulo23]

Bonner is a ten man or worse. What a joke he gets 25 minutes with the recent productivity of Splitter and others.

but but, he is a three point threat which makes our spacing work, otherwise, it wouldnt be possible for the big three to all have 20+ points

[Chachachango]

dude sucks at everything even at running.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs just need to buy him out and move on. Bonner going to another team after would just be a plus. Same with Dick.

[spurtech09]

nope its pops fault.....

[GSH]

Missing all those 3's is pretty damn bad, when you're a 3-point specialist. (If you're Pop, wouldn't you give Novak a look in a game like this?) But people miss shots, and have mini-slumps.

But near the end of the game, the Spurs ran a play with Tony sitting in the corner. Bonner went over and stood around in the same corner. It was like Tony had his spot and he didn't know what to do, so he just stood right next to him. Tony had to push him out of the way and point to another spot on the floor for him to go stand.

I've defended Bonner on this board, but that was one of the most seriously fucking stupid things I've ever seen. He's been around too long to do something like that.

[bresilhac]

I've stayed off the Bonner hatewagon particularly since he established himself as a respectable three point shooter for much of the season. That was until tonight. Matt Bonner's annual late season meltdowns and particularly Pop's propensity to give him so many minutes during these times has me feeling very disappointed lately. Without hitting so much as one three tonight Bonner was nothing more than a liability on the floor for San Antonio. And his play, or lack thereof, help pull us down for yet another loss.

When will Pop and his staff recognize that Matt is a tremendous late season choker and bench him, permanently? I'm trying to keep the faith with the Spurs but my faith and enthusiasm is fading with every loss that piles up. Combine that with the LAL recent surge and well...we'll have to see what happens in the end.

[Obstructed_View]

Not at all Bonner's fault. He's playing as hard as he can when he's in the game. If you want to blame someone, blame the guy who has consistently put him into positions where he's in over his head. Tony Parker's a great player, and he wouldn't be able to play center for the Spurs either.

[Chomag]

Look, Bonner is a very good guy, but he is just not a very good ball player. Sadly this is pro-basketball.

[Hooks]

LOL @ this thread back firing on the OP :lol

[Caeman]

It's not all Bonner's fault. Hill/Blair/Neal and Manu are choking some big d*ck as of late.

However, I will say that every nigga's d*ck gets wet when they see Bonner guarding them.

[alchemist]

LOL @ this thread back firing on the OP :lol
:lmao @ you thinking this

[Obstructed_View]

Look, Bonner is a very good guy, but he is just not a very good ball player. Sadly this is pro-basketball.

Disagree. Bonner's an excellent basketball player. He's a great shooter, a very good dribbler, he has good hands, good instincts, he has a high basketball IQ, and he plays smart team defense.

That's what he is.

Here's what he is not:

An NBA center
A starting-caliber power forward
A good individual defender of starting-caliber bigs
A rotation big

Here's how he should be used:

Put Bonner in.
Let him shoot.
If he makes shots, he stays in
If he misses shots, he comes out
Double teams on his man when they isolate on him.

And as others mentioned, if RJ and Dice and Hill aren't complete vomit, and if Manu is playing like he played much of the season, Bonner doesn't hurt the Spurs even when he goes ohfer.

[ElNono]

Disagree. Bonner's an excellent basketball player. He's a great shooter, a very good dribbler, he has good hands, good instincts, he has a high basketball IQ, and he plays smart team defense.

That's what he is.

Here's what he is not:

An NBA center
A starting-caliber power forward
A good individual defender of starting-caliber bigs
A rotation big

Here's how he should be used:

Put Bonner in.
Let him shoot.
If he makes shots, he stays in
If he misses shots, he comes out
Double teams on his man when they isolate on him.

And as others mentioned, if RJ and Dice and Hill aren't complete vomit, and if Manu is playing like he played much of the season, Bonner doesn't hurt the Spurs even when he goes ohfer.

He's not even a backup caliber power-forward against good teams. It's not isolation against him that's (only) a liability. He's a mediocre pick and roll defender, he doesn't box out, he's a mediocre team defender (disagree on that one with you, seeing he's been 3 seasons in the system and he still misses rotations on a nightly basis) and he has a complete inability to rebound at a decent rate, which costs us actual points and possessions.

He can probably a rockstar against Sacramento or Cleveland. But against the likes of Odom, he has no place on the court.

[gospursgojas]

Dear Matt Bonner,

Thank you for your dead eye shooting throughout the season. Alot of the Spurs #1 record is bc of your great contributions from beyond the arc. That Miami game we won by 30 was fun...your 6 3 pointers made it a great game to watch.

Since then, however, you are shooting 12 for 50 from 3 pt land. Now I now you can smell the playoffs are just weeks away and that is obviously the reason for this decline. No worries...it was expected from us Spurs fans, but now if you would just have a seat on the bench while the REAL season begins, that would be greatly appreciated.

[Sean Cagney]

Disagree. Bonner's an excellent basketball player. He's a great shooter, a very good dribbler, he has good hands, good instincts, he has a high basketball IQ, and he plays smart team defense.

That's what he is.

.

He is not a excellent player! He is not a good shooter or great later in the year! As usual! LOL defense and Bonner in one? Come on bro get real there! WHO YOU FOOLING THERE? He is an okay shooter and a horrible one late in the year, if he is not hitting he is horrible!

[Hooks]

:lmao @ you thinking this


LOL @ you thinking Bonner actually contributes something to this team :lmao:lmao.

[itzsoweezee]

Bonner's an excellent basketball player.


Wrong.



He's a great shooter


Yes.



, a very good dribbler


Hell, the fuck no. The guy looks at the ball when he dribbles. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.



good instincts


Nope, he pretty much has no idea whatsoever what to do unless he's running part of a play. If the play breaks down, he's completely clueless. The opposite of what you claim.



he has a high basketball IQ,


You couldn't be more wrong. He knows how to follow instructions. But he clueless about how to play basketball.




and he plays smart team defense.


he follows instructions and cant guard 1 on 1

[Sean Cagney]

Wrong.



Yes.



Hell, the fuck no. The guy looks at the ball when he dribbles. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.



Nope, he pretty much has no idea whatsoever what to do unless he's running part of a play. If the play breaks down, he's completely clueless. The opposite of what you claim.



You couldn't be more wrong. He knows how to follow instructions. But he clueless about how to play basketball.




he follows instructions and cant guard 1 on 1

I disagree on great shooter as well, late in the year he is hardly that! NOT AT ALL! He sucks shooting later in the year fuck his % first half!

[rr2418]

The thing that gets everyone pist is that when Bonner isn't hitting his shots, Pop doesn't replace him. Why not put Novak in? And another thing, there might not be any football, so we're stuck with baseball.......snoooooze!!!

[ElNono]

Splitter played better in 4 mins... I don't know that Splitter is ready to play against the good teams, but tonight he was playing pretty well.

[rmt]

Disagree. Bonner's an excellent basketball player. He's a great shooter, a very good dribbler, he has good hands, good instincts, he has a high basketball IQ, and he plays smart team defense.

That's what he is.

Here's what he is not:

An NBA center
A starting-caliber power forward
A good individual defender of starting-caliber bigs
A rotation big

Here's how he should be used:

Put Bonner in.
Let him shoot.
If he makes shots, he stays in
If he misses shots, he comes out
Double teams on his man when they isolate on him.

And as others mentioned, if RJ and Dice and Hill aren't complete vomit, and if Manu is playing like he played much of the season, Bonner doesn't hurt the Spurs even when he goes ohfer.

You're contradicting yourself. If Bonner is an excellent basketball player, why is he not a rotation big (unless you think he's should be a rotation wing/guard).

He is not a great shooter. Ray Allen is a great shooter. Bonner is a great 3pt shooter when he's wide open and it's before the ASB.

He is not a very good dribbler. He does not have good hands; Duncan and Blair have excellent/good hands. He does not have good instincts or high basketball IQ or plays smart team defense - that would be Robert Horry who Pop in his stubbornness thinks Bonner is replacing.

WTH does Pop have him out there at all much less in crunch time? He plays over 25 mins and scores 0 points while Splitter scores 4 pts in 3:48 If he's not hitting 3pters he's useless.

Also, why did Pop go with Hill so much when Neal was heating up?

Popovich's lineups are what is most wrong with this team. Maybe if they keep losing, he'll come to his senses and bench Bonner and RJ and play Splitter and Neal.

[ElNono]

Popovich's lineups are what is most wrong with this team. Maybe if they keep losing, he'll come to his senses and bench Bonner and RJ and play Splitter and Neal.

:pop: "That wouldn't be fair to the team"

[objective]

Here's how he should be used:

Put Bonner in.
Let him shoot.
If he makes shots, he stays in
If he misses shots, he comes out
Double teams on his man when they isolate on him.

And as others mentioned, if RJ and Dice and Hill aren't complete vomit, and if Manu is playing like he played much of the season, Bonner doesn't hurt the Spurs even when he goes ohfer.

that is just as wrong as playing him the way Pop is now.

Here is the ONLY way to use Bonner as people like me have written about for years, and been proven right again and again:

He can only be a situational shooter. 13 seconds left in the first . . . put Bonner in to have as an option to shoot a three. One possession left in a half, or quarter, or down 3 to end a game? Put him in.

Otherwise he has no business being on the court unless it's garbage time, foul trouble, or there are injury problems among the good players.

That's it.

[temujin]

Missing all those 3's is pretty damn bad, when you're a 3-point specialist. (If you're Pop, wouldn't you give Novak a look in a game like this?) But people miss shots, and have mini-slumps.

But near the end of the game, the Spurs ran a play with Tony sitting in the corner. Bonner went over and stood around in the same corner. It was like Tony had his spot and he didn't know what to do, so he just stood right next to him. Tony had to push him out of the way and point to another spot on the floor for him to go stand.

I've defended Bonner on this board, but that was one of the most seriously fucking stupid things I've ever seen. He's been around too long to do something like that.

Good post. I noticed the very same thing.

I think Popovich is trying to prove something to a couple of guys on the team by playing Bonner.

This team is going nowhere.

[temujin]

I guarantee you that Bonner would NOT have played in any quarter final games of the Euroleague these past two weeks.