Matt Bonner = 25min ZERO's across the board

[Sigz]

And Tiago only gets FOUR fucking minutes?



Pop is a complete piece of shit.

[BlackSwordsMan]

par the course per the usual CIA pop mind fucking the lakers

[Nathan89]

Front page thread overload.:downspin:

[Sean Cagney]

He's great, great player there! He will get more mins now!

[crc21209]

He got 1 important stat in the box score. Under Big Giant Vagina....

[dunkman]

It's difficult to understand. Duncan and Dice were in foul trouble, Bonner shots like crap and Splitter gets 4 mpg.

[chazley]

+2

[Caeman]

25 minutes. Bonner gets a minute of playing time for every minute he sucks off Pop. Embarrasing.

[gospursgojas]

Dear Matt Bonner,

Thank you for your dead eye shooting throughout the season. Alot of the Spurs #1 record is bc of your great contributions from beyond the arc. That Miami game we won by 30 was fun...your 6 3 pointers made it a great game to watch.

Since then, however, you are shooting 12 for 50 from 3 pt land. Now I now you can smell the playoffs are just weeks away and that is obviously the reason for this decline. No worries...it was expected from us Spurs fans, but now if you would just have a seat on the bench while the REAL season begins, that would be greatly appreciated.

[TampaDude]

Pop is on drugs...seriously...

[fraga]

And Novack gets no time...

[cherylsteele]

+2
The more important number is actually -5.

I still think Pop has some good wine in his gatorade bottle, Matt probably put in there to keep him drunk so he won't sober up and see his lineup and think, "what the hell is Matt in the game for?"

[ALVAREZ6]

http://wallpapers.free-review.net/wallpapers/24/Sniper_rifle.jpg

Somebody please do it. Pop, time to go buddy. You are fucking stupid.

[wildbill2u]

I thought it was amazing that Pop kept Bonner in when he wasn't being very productive.

Does anyone know why Jefferson was out during the 4th quarter. Did he get hurt? I couldn't watch the game.

[ALVAREZ6]

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/if-only-matt-bo.html


If only Matt Bonner had been given some minutes

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2008/05/30/matt_bonner_spurs_missing_hero.png

With many difficult questions to face going into the long offseason, the Spurs and Gregg Popovich have to be asking themselves, "Where the hell was Matt Bonner?"
From 2008, but still pretty fucking funny anyway.

[dbreiden83080]

I don't have the issue with Bonner that some do but when Matt is ice cold like last night why is he not putting Splitter in there? Bonner offers nothing but 3 pt shots. That's great when they are falling but when he can't hit em what is the point of keeping him in there and letting Splitter sit??

[cherylsteele]

I don't have the issue with Bonner that some do but when Matt is ice cold like last night why is he not putting Splitter in there? Bonner offers nothing but 3 pt shots. That's great when they are falling but when he can't hit em what is the point of keeping him in there and letting Splitter sit??
I really don't dislike Matt, but you are right, if he is not making shots he is virtually worthless and should sit, that is on Pop for sure.

[dbreiden83080]

I really don't dislike Matt, but you are right, if he is not making shots has is virtually worthless and should sit, that is on Pop for sure,

Obviously Splitter is inexperienced we know that but he can't get no minutes when Matt is cold like that. When Matt is stroking it like he was in the Heat win, yeah i get it you ride the hot hand but last night shit...

Splitter plays better D, gives you some post presence and is a better rebounder. Bonner is dead weight when he can't make his jumpshot.. Pop WTF dude???

[dbreiden83080]

Oh yes and seeing Scola play so well as always is a nice reminder of what a clusterfuck that was by the Spurs.

Fuckin team would have maybe won another ring in the Duncan era if they had paid the money for Scola and not been such cheap assholes..

[ALVAREZ6]

Obviously Splitter is inexperienced we know that but he can't get no minutes when Matt is cold like that. When Matt is stroking it like he was in the Heat win, yeah i get it you ride the hot hand but last night shit...

Splitter plays better D, gives you some post presence and is a better rebounder. Bonner is dead weight when he can't make his jumpshot.. Pop WTF dude???

I agree wholeheartedly with this and have been saying it all along, but that doesn't take much brain power to realize. Any fan can realize that this type of usage of Bonner would be optimal, but Pop is simply too stubborn to veer from this stupid ass system. Fuck you Pop.

[Caeman]

Oh yes and seeing Scola play so well as always is a nice reminder of what a clusterfuck that was by the Spurs.

Fuckin team would have maybe won another ring in the Duncan era if they had paid the money for Scola and not been such cheap assholes..

Where you Pop-huggers? Start spinning the fact that we gave up an all-star caliber player for nothing. Fab may have helped bring us one title, but by giving Scola away, the FO (and Pop, mostly Pop) gave up multiple title-shots.

Where you nut-huggers at? You mutherf*ckers get real quiet when the shit hits the fan.

[dbreiden83080]

too stubborn to veer from this stupid ass system. Fuck you Pop.

Pop's system has been long built on, good guard play, defense and presence in the post. In the early Duncan years it was really just post play, half court offense and good D.. Bowen never would have got so many minutes if he was just a corner 3 shooter who could not defend his ass off.. Yes Tim is no longer the focus but when in that era was Pop ever about favoring someone who just shoots 3's over a guy that has more tools? What does Bonner do better in his system than Splitter other than the 3?? I don't get what it is about Matt specifically at all???

[TampaDude]

Oh yes and seeing Scola play so well as always is a nice reminder of what a clusterfuck that was by the Spurs.

Fuckin team would have maybe won another ring in the Duncan era if they had paid the money for Scola and not been such cheap assholes..

Yup...the Spurs would have 5 or 6 titles by now.

[tenbeersbold]

Well you nailed it,best PF of his generation and he could of had a LOT more rings but the Spurs are cheap and honestly didn't draft well.

The big three should have been broken up.Manu should've been traded,notice that he poured it on when the trade possibility was out there.I think complacency has taken hold the last few years on the Spurs.Bonner being resigned was the lazy icing on the cake that no real competitive spirit was going to infiltrate this team any time soon

But I lay a lot of this on Duncan,he's no leader of a serious perennial contender
Not enough fire and desire to motivate people.

You can thank the abnormal regular season record on Blair's starter hustle and Bonner/Neal and co's 3pt shooting.Spurs caught a lot of people sleeping but now that the league has homed in on the Spurs 3pt shooting as their achilles heel combined w/ Bonner's awkward/slow/low release that is ridiculously easy to disrupt...well you know the rest

Oh yeah,bench McDyess,he's proven to be no starter vs Blair and definitely not over Tiago.And let McDyess retire next year,let Jefferson go.Trade Bonner if you can...

And let Duncan retire seriously,he's been great but clear some salary cap and get us another TWIN TOWER to go w/ Tiago for the future

[ALVAREZ6]

Pop's system has been long built on, good guard play, defense and presence in the post. In the early Duncan years it was really just post play, half court offense and good D.. Bowen never would have got so many minutes if he was just a corner 3 shooter who could not defend his ass off.. Yes Tim is no longer the focus but when in that era was Pop ever about favoring someone who just shoots 3's over a guy that has more tools? What does Bonner do better in his system than Splitter other than the 3?? I don't get what it is about Matt specifically at all???

Well clearly his mentality has changed, it's obvious over the past couple of seasons, but I can't fault him for all of that. Tim is nowhere near what he used to be in terms of dominating. You can't feed the ball to him every night and expect him to dominate the paint. Also, it's probably better that Manu doesn't slash as much during the regular season until towards the end, so he's well rested and not as banged up for the playoffs. These guys are just older and the laws of nature apply to everyone.

I think Pop's regular season mentality, at least in terms of the offense, has been pretty damn solid. Actually, given this past season it's undeniable. But in my opinion they needed to start changing and adopting a different style of play earlier, and yet they still aren't despite the fact the playoffs are right around the corner. In the reduced possessions and pace of the playoffs, it's very hard for a 3 point shooting team to win a championship. They may be lucky to be hot for a few games and maybe get by a team, but they aren't going to beat LA or Boston by relying on the 3 point shot. It's frustrating to see that down the stretch of the season in some of these games, about one third of the Spurs field goal attempts are coming from beyond the arc.

I don't get it..it makes me wonder if the Spurs are all brainwashing each other, and that no one is stepping up verbally on the sidelines and in practice. It's very much a guess, but you can't infer from the Spurs regular play that anybody is challenging their teammates and coach or team as a whole.

[ALVAREZ6]

And let Duncan retire seriously,he's been great but clear some salary cap and get us another TWIN TOWER to go w/ Tiago for the future

Dude...this is obviously and purely Duncan's sole decision. Not a single thing is going to force him out of San Antonio or off of the basketball court, unless it's himself. And I'd have to disagree on the point, anyway. While Duncan is a shell of his former self, sadly, he's still far superior than any other big man on this team. What frustrates me the most is that this has been true forever since Robinson retired. The Spurs have done nothing over the years in order to get another quality big next to Duncan.

[Caeman]

why hasn't someone shoved Bonner down some stairs yet? We're talking about our last chance at a title with Timmy, and Bonner is dragging down the Spurs.

[Budkin]

The reason Pop keeps Red in when he's shooting so poorly is that he makes up for it on the defensive end. He provides great film to analyze how not to play defense. That is a valuable asset in this league.

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[cherylsteele]

The reason Pop keeps Red in when he's shooting so poorly is that he makes up for it on the defensive end. He provides great film to analyze how not to play defense. That is a valuable asset in this league.
Where is the rimshot smiley?
We need one.

[tenbeersbold]

Dude...this is obviously and purely Duncan's sole decision. Not a single thing is going to force him out of San Antonio or off of the basketball court, unless it's himself. And I'd have to disagree on the point, anyway. While Duncan is a shell of his former self, sadly, he's still far superior than any other big man on this team. What frustrates me the most is that this has been true forever since Robinson retired. The Spurs have done nothing over the years in order to get another quality big next to Duncan.

Well I disagree,Tiago's footwork is WAY better/quicker than Duncans at this point down on the block.Sure he's not a shot blocker but he disrupts in the post similar to TD due to his size.Plus Tiago can bang w/ just about anyone on the block which Duncan was never great at and definitely cant do now.

I like our chances w/ Tiago on Bynum etc vs Duncan tbh.Sure TD is better in some aspects but he honestly doesn't get enough touches in this offense to make use of those parts of his game that are better than Splitter's IMHO.

[ALVAREZ6]

Well I disagree,Tiago's footwork is WAY better/quicker than Duncans at this point down on the block.Sure he's not a shot blocker but he disrupts in the post similar to TD due to his size.Plus Tiago can bang w/ just about anyone on the block which Duncan was never great at and definitely cant do now.

I like our chances w/ Tiago on Bynum etc vs Duncan tbh.Sure TD is better in some aspects but he honestly doesn't get enough touches in this offense to make use of those parts of his game that are better than Splitter's IMHO.

Overall, Duncan is much more effective than Tiago. I'd love to see Tiago get more minutes, I of course agree he should play more and should have logged way more minutes this season, but unfortunately Gregg Faggot doesn't see it this way. Tiago still needs a lot of work in his overall game, especially offense. Sometimes his offensive reactions are too slow and he doesn't go up as strong or explosively/aggressively, but that can change pretty easily. He's a decent post defender, much better than Bonner obviously, but saying "he can bang with just about anyone" is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion. He could get there, but he still needs a little more time/experience and size. I'd like to see him put on some muscle in the offseason.

But yes, I am baffled why we don't see more Duncan/Splitter combo. Pop is literally throwing this crazy season away like a jackass.

[Ice009]

Pop's system has been long built on, good guard play, defense and presence in the post. In the early Duncan years it was really just post play, half court offense and good D.. Bowen never would have got so many minutes if he was just a corner 3 shooter who could not defend his ass off.. Yes Tim is no longer the focus but when in that era was Pop ever about favoring someone who just shoots 3's over a guy that has more tools? What does Bonner do better in his system than Splitter other than the 3?? I don't get what it is about Matt specifically at all???

I think it was the 2008 series against the Lakers.

Pop said after the series that the defense was good enough, but the lack of offense is what caused us to lose the series. I think that was the point that he changed.

Someone would have to look it up, but I think we actually held LA to less PPG than anyone did during those playoffs, even Boston allowed them to score more in the finals.

Our offense was putrid at times though, and we lost games with huge leads of almost 20 points in 3 or 4 of the games because we went on big scoring droughts. I am sure that is when Pop decided to go for offense more.

What do you guys think?

I always prefer defense first, but I could see why Pop wanted to change.

Maybe Pop was going for a balance like LA who is never usually the best defensive team, but usually around 4th or 5th when they win and also their offense is usually top 5 as well. Right now our balance is offense maybe 5th and defense 15th or something. Pop has really screwed up IMO. It's really no better as it has completely turned around to a huge loss in defense which gives us even less of a chance to win IMO.

[cherylsteele]

why hasn't someone shoved Bonner down some stairs yet? We're talking about our last chance at a title with Timmy, and Bonner is dragging down the Spurs.
What is is address?
I might know someone.



























j/k.
Pop really needs to not play him though.

[cherylsteele]

I'll be the first to give Bonner credit for a nice all around game today vs the Suns, the qustion is will he keep it up, or is this just a teaser, or a flash in the pan?

[TampaDude]

I'll be the first to give Bonner credit for a nice all around game today vs the Suns, the qustion is will he keep it up, or is this just a teaser, or a flash in the pan?

Time will tell. Remember, this was a Suns team with no Amare and no Nash today. If we didn't blow them out, I would've worried a bit.

[Sigz]

That ginger still sucks.

[duncan228]

Bonner’s rare game pounding the boards aids Spurs’ triumph (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/bonners-rare-night-pounding-the-boards-aids-spurs-triumph/)
by Tim Griffin

...“I thought his activity on the offensive boards was more impressive than him making a couple of threes,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. “He was very, very active for us in that regard. Against Phoenix, it’s real important. But just in general, his pursuit of what we call the ’50-50 balls’ was real important and he was great at it.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/bonners-rare-night-pounding-the-boards-aids-spurs-triumph/

[boutons_deux]

Matty with a double-double

He seemed very pleased his 3Gs were falling again.

Now work on the consistency

[jeebus]

That ginger still sucks.

[cherylsteele]

Time will tell. Remember, this was a Suns team with no Amare and no Nash today. If we didn't blow them out, I would've worried a bit.
True, but it was nice to see the Spurs hitting shots. The Spurs also tend to play down to the opponent at times too.
Is Matt gonna buck the playoff trend, or revert back ot his old self, this is a good first step, he needs to keep it up.

Like you said time will tell.

[Cessation]

Bonner homers are starting to come back.

[duncan228]

Redemption shot boosts Bonner’s confidence (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/redemption-shot-boosts-bonner%e2%80%99s-confidence/)
Mike Monroe

...In need of a jolt of confidence, he got it when teammate Gary Neal passed up an open 3-pointer to get the ball to Bonner, uncovered at one of his favorite spots.

As he watched his shot settle into the net, Bonner said he felt like an innocent man who had escaped from prison after a sentence he hadn’t deserved.

“It was totally a ‘Shawshank Redemption’ shot,” he said. “I felt like I was riding down the coast of Mexico, looking at the Pacific Ocean.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/03/redemption-shot-boosts-bonner%e2%80%99s-confidence/

[4>0rings]

That ginger still sucks.

[Kool Bob Love]

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:rollin:rollin:rollin

Prove ST wrong this year RED ROCKET!:toast

[cherylsteele]

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Prove ST wrong this year RED ROCKET!:toast
I would love for him to prove us wrong.
Is today a flash in the pan or a sign of things to come. Based on his past, I'd say the former, I hope I am wrong.

[Spursmania]

Those of us that know Bonner's playoff history, know exactly how Bonner is going to react during the playoffs. Complete Fail.

I don't even need to say, "I hope he makes me eat crow and proves me wrong." It will never happen-never has, never will.

The guys balls shrink at the sign of any pressure. Time to call a spade a spade. A few great regular season games does not change the history of Bonner's shitty playoff career.

[xellos88330]

Those of us that know Bonner's playoff history, know exactly how Bonner is going to react during the playoffs. Complete Fail.

I don't even need to say, "I hope he makes me eat crow and proves me wrong." It will never happen-never has, never will.

The guys balls shrink at the sign of any pressure. Time to call a spade a spade. A few great regular season games does not change the history of Bonner's shitty playoff career.

Well, it is looking more and more like he will get his shot at trying to overcome that stigma. Hopefully he will.

[gospursgojas]

Props to Bonner. Not only did he connect on his 3's today, he bustedhis ass on the boards.