LOL Sony

[phyzik]

http://ps3.gamespy.com/articles/115/1159288p1.html

Anonymous Declares War on Sony

Gulp! That's the collective reaction Sony likely had this morning after receiving a slap to the face from the hacker activist group famous for taking on the Church of Scientology, Anonymous. For its recent actions against PlayStation 3 hackers, including George "Geohot" Hotz, Anonymous has declared war on Sony.

Sony has been hunting anyone and everyone associated with exploiting the PlayStation 3's cracked security since Hotz released the console's root key to the masses back in January. And in the eyes of Anonymous, the company has gone too far.

"Your recent legal actions against fellow Internet citizens, GeoHot and Graf_Chokolo, have been deemed an unforgivable offense against free speech and Internet freedom, primary sources of free lulz (and you know how we feel about lulz)," Anonymous stated through a press release on its AnonNews website.

"Now you will experience the wrath of Anonymous. You saw a hornets nest and stuck your penises in it. You must face the consequences of your actions, Anonymous style."

The group went on to inform Sony it has "only been renting" its web domains, just as PS3 owners have, based on Sony's actions, evidently only been renting the consoles they purchased. As such, Anonymous said it will now begin attacking Sony's private property.

:wow :lmao

[koriwhat]

Fuck sony!on a side not though, i might have a 360 fall into my lap this week so what up big dogs on 2k!!?

[cheguevara]

exciting stuff

[Agloco]

"Now you will experience the wrath of Anonymous. You saw a hornets nest and stuck your penises in it. You must face the consequences of your actions, Anonymous style."

That will probably leave an indelible mark.......

[Sense]

lol please keep us updated on what happens... I would love to know

[Nathan Explosion]

Why doesn't Sony just do what Microsoft does and hire the hackers for shit loads of money? And besides, what's the whole point of hacking and fucking with people's things. I never got it. Is your life so unfulfilled that you have to fuck with everyone else just to make yourself feel important?

[Sense]

Why doesn't Sony just do what Microsoft does and hire the hackers for shit loads of money? And besides, what's the whole point of hacking and fucking with people's things. I never got it. Is your life so unfulfilled that you have to fuck with everyone else just to make yourself feel important?

They do it for us you fag..

[BlackSwordsMan]

Why doesn't Sony just do what Microsoft does and hire the hackers for shit loads of money? And besides, what's the whole point of hacking and fucking with people's things. I never got it. Is your life so unfulfilled that you have to fuck with everyone else just to make yourself feel important?
The hackers they hired must suck microsoft lost 1.4 million on ms codes last week due to hackers.

[Drachen]

Why doesn't Sony just do what Microsoft does and hire the hackers for shit loads of money? And besides, what's the whole point of hacking and fucking with people's things. I never got it. Is your life so unfulfilled that you have to fuck with everyone else just to make yourself feel important?

Anonymous, it seems are doing this to show solidarity to this geohot guy. This geohot guy is being targeted by sony for getting his hardware to do what he wanted (and thereby making it more valueable), then sharing his work with others.

It would be like Centex homes coming after you for retiling your bathroom

[Nathan Explosion]

They do it for us you fag..

They do it for themselves and pretend it's for the better of the people.

If it was done for us, there wouldn't be viruses and trojans and all sorts of malware infesting computers and shutting them down. We wouldn't have to worry about protecting our identities and losing money from our bank accounts. We wouldn't need ridiculous amounts of internet security just to make sure our investments (our PCs) stay clean and operable.

The fact that you believe such utter bullshit says a lot about yourself.

[Nathan Explosion]

Anonymous, it seems are doing this to show solidarity to this geohot guy. This geohot guy is being targeted by sony for getting his hardware to do what he wanted (and thereby making it more valueable), then sharing his work with others.

It would be like Centex homes coming after you for retiling your bathroom

If I recall correctly, he was modifying the software, which should be protected by copyright laws, although I don't claim to be a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination and could be totally wrong. I think it could lead to software piracy (games and whatnot) which is illegal.

Again, I'd have to go back and read the article outlining what his work actually did, but I seem to remember that that's what that was all about.

Having said that, Apple, Google, Motorola and Sony are all doing this sort of thing with their devices, so is this guy going to attack them all. By doing so, he'd basically be declaring war on the consumer as his attacks will surely be passed down to the user either with an interruption of service or by rendering the devices inoperable in some capacity.

But whatever, I mean, he's trying to protect us, right?

[Sense]

They do it for themselves and pretend it's for the better of the people.

If it was done for us, there wouldn't be viruses and trojans and all sorts of malware infesting computers and shutting them down. We wouldn't have to worry about protecting our identities and losing money from our bank accounts. We wouldn't need ridiculous amounts of internet security just to make sure our investments (our PCs) stay clean and operable.

The fact that you believe such utter bullshit says a lot about yourself.

You might think so but it's all about the whole piracy war.. while it does help their ego, I highly doubt they risk that much just so they can say they can do it...

Getting praised for it might be another reason they do it.. it's how they get "famous"...

[phyzik]

If I recall correctly, he was modifying the software, which should be protected by copyright laws, although I don't claim to be a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination and could be totally wrong. I think it could lead to software piracy (games and whatnot) which is illegal.

Again, I'd have to go back and read the article outlining what his work actually did, but I seem to remember that that's what that was all about.

Having said that, Apple, Google, Motorola and Sony are all doing this sort of thing with their devices, so is this guy going to attack them all. By doing so, he'd basically be declaring war on the consumer as his attacks will surely be passed down to the user either with an interruption of service or by rendering the devices inoperable in some capacity.

But whatever, I mean, he's trying to protect us, right?

You show your ignorance by naming "Anonymous" as one person as well as thinking all hackers are "out to get you".

The whole point, regardless of what a copyright might have you believe, is that when you purchase a piece of property, its yours to do with what you will. It's not rented or leased. It's YOURS.

This is akin to any motor vehicle company going after you for adding performance parts to the car you bought.

As for services being interupted for consumers, thats on Sony's head and anyone not addicted to Everquest and DC universe, which both suck ass I might add, can see how Sony has brought this on themselves.

[ElNono]

You show your ignorance by naming "Anonymous" as one person as well as thinking all hackers are "out to get you".

The whole point, regardless of what a copyright might have you believe, is that when you purchase a piece of property, its yours to do with what you will. It's not rented or leased. It's YOURS.

This is akin to any motor vehicle company going after you for adding performance parts to the car you bought.

As for services being interupted for consumers, thats on Sony's head and anyone not addicted to Everquest and DC universe, which both suck ass I might add, can see how Sony has brought this on themselves.

Unfortunately, in the digital domain, and thanks to laws like the DMCA that's not really the case. You're granted a 'license' to use the software. You're also agreeing to use the hardware with said software or you have to return it.

People don't read the fine print, but there's a lot of bullshit there. It's a really fucked up system we're living in these days.

[phyzik]

Nathan,

Contrary to what the media and movies would have you believe, hackers are not the ones creating viruses and malware. They are not out for money or to steal your identity. Hackers hack to learn. They are more interested in the workings of a computer and the challenge of its security.

The few hundred dollars in your account, or that e-mail that proves you cheated on your wife, or that porn folder you have collected video's in for a decade doesnt matter to them.

The people you are refering to about creating viruses and malware are exactly the type of people Anonymous are against.... As well as those companies like Sony who are complete Zealots who will do anything to make sure they control your dollar.

[phyzik]

Unfortunately, in the digital domain, and thanks to laws like the DMCA that's not really the case. You're granted a 'license' to use the software. You're also agreeing to use the hardware with said software or you have to return it.

People don't read the fine print, but there's a lot of bullshit there. It's a really fucked up system we're living in these days.

Except there are also laws that protect the consumer as well.

Thats why this is becoming such a big deal.

[ElNono]

There's all sorts... there's the greedy fucks, there's the guys that are genuinely interested in learning by looking under the hood. There's the ones that are in it for the 'fame'. There are the flat out delinquents. There's the truly brilliant and the coattailers.

Sometimes they start one way, and end up being something else. Some are capable of crossing the fence (going from black to white hat), some are not.

We could really have a 10+ page thread on this topic. It's a varied world out there.

EDIT: This was RE: Hackers

[ElNono]

Except there are also laws that protect the consumer as well.

Thats why this is becoming such a big deal.

Such as? A lot of consumer laws are getting obliterated with superimposed loopholes. I didn't bring the DMCA lightly.

Consumers were allowed to make personal copies. By encrypting the originals, that right was lost under the DMCA, which criminalizes circumventing the encryption, and has no exceptions for personal copies.

Contract law has a very long precedent. When you willfully agree to waive certain rights, there's normally very small recourse. Half the people that buy things like the PS3, don't even know what they're agreeing to. And that's the problem.

[CuckingFunt]

What a bunch of spoiled brats. Seriously.

[phyzik]

There's all sorts... there's the greedy fucks, there's the guys that are genuinely interested in learning by looking under the hood. There's the ones that are in it for the 'fame'. There are the flat out delinquents. There's the truly brilliant and the coattailers.

Sometimes they start one way, and end up being something else. Some are capable of crossing the fence (going from black to white hat), some are not.

We could really have a 10+ page thread on this topic. It's a varied world out there.

agreed.

Still, the heart of this issue is that Sony is trying to prevent people from doing what they want with property that they rightfully own.

What those people do with the knowledge is an entirely different manner.

For instance, there are people building supercomputers based off of PS3's, which is not what they where intended for, but I dont see Sony going after them....

As much as I dont like Microsoft, they did it right... just disable those systems so they no longer can access PSN and be done with it. Same as with a car... if you modify it, you void the warranty. You dont go to jail for it.

[MannyIsGod]

They do it for themselves and pretend it's for the better of the people.

If it was done for us, there wouldn't be viruses and trojans and all sorts of malware infesting computers and shutting them down. We wouldn't have to worry about protecting our identities and losing money from our bank accounts. We wouldn't need ridiculous amounts of internet security just to make sure our investments (our PCs) stay clean and operable.

The fact that you believe such utter bullshit says a lot about yourself.

The fact you posted this complete and utter load of crap shows just how little you know. Jesus Christ this is one of the worst posts in this forum I've ever run across.

I haven't read the rest of the thread, but I can only hope the forum has shit on you as much as you deserve for this bullshit.

[ElNono]

agreed.

Still, the heart of this issue is that Sony is trying to prevent people from doing what they want with property that they rightfully own.

No such thing as 'property that they rightfully own'. I doubt you've read the Sony's TOS included with the console?
Nobody can stop you from doing whatever you want in the privacy of your home for personal use. Distributing that information is more complicated though.


What those people do with the knowledge is an entirely different manner.

I agree that the onus is on Sony to prove that the guy hacked the console with the intent to bypass rights management.


For instance, there are people building supercomputers based off of PS3's, which is not what they where intended for, but I dont see Sony going after them....

You don't know that they didn't get a license from Sony for doing that though. I mean, Sony did include Other OS exceptions for the fat PS3, until they removed the option with a later software update.


As much as I dont like Microsoft, they did it right... just disable those systems so they no longer can access PSN and be done with it. Same as with a car... if you modify it, you void the warranty. You dont go to jail for it.

Microsoft actively pursues hackers, and has had the FBI investigate and prosecute: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/crippen-dismissed/

Different companies have different approaches though. Some are willing to work with who they might consider brilliant instead of suing them if they feel they'll reap more rewards that way.

[Cry Havoc]

I can only hope the forum has shit on you as much as you deserve for this bullshit.

Nah. We're pretty used to it from him and Viva 'round these parts. :lol

[Chachachango]

Well, that sucks,I can't sign in now.

[MannyIsGod]

PSN has been down all day. Coincidence?

[LnGrrrR]

If I recall correctly, he was modifying the software, which should be protected by copyright laws, although I don't claim to be a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination and could be totally wrong. I think it could lead to software piracy (games and whatnot) which is illegal.

Blake, is that you?

[Jacob1983]

Fuckin joke. I bet a lot of people are pissed about it because Portal 2, the new SOCOM game, and Mortal Kombat came out recently. I'm pissed too. Ridiculous. Sony lets some pussy hackers fuck up their shit.

[phyzik]

Fuckin joke. I bet a lot of people are pissed about it because Portal 2, the new SOCOM game, and Mortal Kombat came out recently. I'm pissed too. Ridiculous. Sony lets some pussy hackers fuck up their shit.

Anonymous has stated publicly that they are not responsible for this.... weather its true or not remains to be seen, but I would lean towards believing that it was not Anonymous.

If it was... they would have claimed it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

what sony can just do is block the ports from the ps3 from hoping onto their network or best brick it on next firmware

[SAtown]

Fucking gay. Just in time for a long weekend to get some MK online in, and was thinking about getting Socom also. Fuck me

[TheMACHINE]

time for me to do"training" all day on MK...then own some fools online when it gets back up!

[IronMaxipad]

It's still fucking down? fuck

Right when socom is out.. can't play that single player garbage.

[MannyIsGod]

Sony pissed off the wrong people.

[jimo2305]

im not upset it's down or anything but just wanna put it out there for all those fellow ps3 netflixters that netflix still works online on the ps3 lol.. it says one needs to be online to watch the movies and we're just like 'sure ok whatever'..

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah I used Netflix yesterday. I could give two shits about PSN being down but I rarely use anything online other than Netflix and that still works.

[z0sa]

I would say Netflix is all that really matters to me as well, but I can just stream off my laptop or hell, even the 360.

PSN is probably just garbage.

[Sense]

Haha

[IronMaxipad]

http://i56.tinypic.com/bhlpao.gif

[IronMaxipad]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1261596481_3Fw2MnJ-L.jpg

[jimo2305]

lol dang.. that one hurt

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ the error code.

[Chachachango]

This is crap. Today was the only day I could chill and play some ps3 and take a break from school. Guess I gotta hit book instead. And fuk the VP of Bullshit.

[IronMaxipad]

Sony finally confirms that they were hacked. Anon says it wasn't them though.


An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.

[LnGrrrR]

So nice to know I will have job security once get out of the military as long as I keep my certifications current :lol

[IronMaxipad]

Still fucking down.. nice.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, someone fucked Sony pretty hard. 3 days down in 2011? Damn.

[Cry Havoc]

That's pretty crazy. What's the longest Live has been down for?

[IronMaxipad]

That's pretty crazy. What's the longest Live has been down for?

Xbox live was down for a week and it was during Christmas.

[ynh]

My understanding live was down 2 weeks when Halo 3 came out. This from next gen tactics. I don't remember that but I don't think I was doing online shit back then.

[IronMaxipad]

We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.

Rebuild the entire system?! Yeah take your time sony. fuck

SOCOM4 just sitting here with it's shitty single player campaign :bang

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Wow

[Spur-Addict]

This is getting ridiculous.

[IronMaxipad]

Day 5 bitches! :toast

[Muser]

Fuck me i'm taking Mortal Kombat back tomorrow and switching it for a 360 version

[Drachen]

Wow, this thing still isn't wrapped up? 5 days down in 2011 is like 30 days in 1997.

[ElNono]

Investigating...

Non-Issue

/Sony

[IronMaxipad]

PSN made Foxnews:



Sony Corp. was trying to determine Monday whether users' credit card numbers or other personal information had been compromised as the outage of its global PlayStation Network entered a sixth day, PC World reported.

The company confirmed that an "external intrusion" by hackers disrupted the service, affecting more than 75 million users worldwide who use it to play video games against friends online, stream movies and shop online.

Sony Computer Entertainment spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka said the company was conducting a "thorough investigation" into the outage, which began April 20.

He said Sony did not yet know if users' credit card information or other personal information had been compromised in the attack, but the company would immediately inform users if it had.

A posting on the official PlayStation blog Monday by Patrick Seybold, Sony senior director of corporate communications and social media, gave no indication when PlayStation Network service might return.

"Unfortunately, I don't have an update or timeframe to share at this point in time," Seybold wrote. "We'll keep you updated with information as it becomes available."

Seybold said late Saturday that Sony was completely rebuilding its systems to strengthen its network infrastructure.

Players can still play games offline, but are unable to challenge others over the internet, one of the console's key features.

Hacker group Anonymous was originally suspected of causing the disruption as it had previously vowed retribution against the Japanese electronics giant after it took legal action two hackers.

However, in a message on its website Friday, titled "For Once We Didn't Do It," the group denied responsibility, saying that while it was possible that individual hackers had targeted the network, Sony was not an official target.


Nice! :lmao

good thing i don't have any credit card info on my account.

[LnGrrrR]

At least Sony recognized that they had to rebuild the security from the ground up, and not just keep putting add-ons.

Too bad it took them a security incident to recognize it. That's usually how a company finds out though.

[MannyIsGod]

At least Sony recognized that they had to rebuild the security from the ground up, and not just keep putting add-ons.

Too bad it took them a security incident to recognize it. That's usually how a company finds out though.

Should have just left Geo alone. Assholes are getting what they deserve.

[LnGrrrR]

Should have just left Geo alone. Assholes are getting what they deserve.

The Anonymous clique, and other Robin Hood-ish hackers definitely walk an interesting line on the moral sidewalk. I find myself usually sympathizing with them more often than not, but I think that's due to libertarian/geek tendencies on my part.

[ynh]

Hackers was a really good movie.. so they cool with me.

[ynh]

Can't beat a pg13 movie that came out when you were 12 that flashed some naked Jolie titties your way and your parents would never suspect they were in there.

[ynh]

:downspin:

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

This is getting ridiculous. My day just doesn't feel complete without hearing someone called a fucking faggot for using a sniper rifle.

[IronMaxipad]

Sony releases a statement:




Update on PlayStation Network and Qriocity

+ Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media

Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve the current outage of PlayStation Network & Qriocity services. We are currently working to send a similar message to the one below via email to all of our registered account holders regarding a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems. These malicious actions have also had an impact on your ability to enjoy the services provided by PlayStation Network and Qriocity including online gaming and online access to music, movies, sports and TV shows. We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week.

We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible. We appreciate your patience and feedback.

Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer:
We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:

Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;
Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and
Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.

We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable.

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.

To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it:

U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228.

We have also provided names and contact information for the three major U.S. credit bureaus below. At no charge, U.S. residents can have these credit bureaus place a “fraud alert” on your file that alerts creditors to take additional steps to verify your identity prior to granting credit in your name. This service can make it more difficult for someone to get credit in your name. Note, however, that because it tells creditors to follow certain procedures to protect you, it also may delay your ability to obtain credit while the agency verifies your identity. As soon as one credit bureau confirms your fraud alert, the others are notified to place fraud alerts on your file. Should you wish to place a fraud alert, or should you have any questions regarding your credit report, please contact any one of the agencies listed below.

Experian: 888-397-3742; www.experian.com; P.O. Box 9532, Allen, TX 75013
Equifax: 800-525-6285; www.equifax.com; P.O. Box 740241, Atlanta, GA 30374-0241
TransUnion: 800-680-7289; www.transunion.com; Fraud Victim Assistance Division, P.O. Box 6790, Fullerton, CA 92834-6790

You may wish to visit the web site of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission at www.consumer.gov/idtheft or reach the FTC at 1-877-382-4357 or 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20580 for further information about how to protect yourself from identity theft. Your state Attorney General may also have advice on preventing identity theft, and you should report instances of known or suspected identity theft to law enforcement, your State Attorney General, and the FTC. For North Carolina residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 9001 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-9001; telephone (877) 566-7226; or www.ncdoj.gov. For Maryland residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 200 St. Paul Place, 16th Floor, Baltimore, MD 21202; telephone: (888) 743-0023; or www.oag.state.md.us.

We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information. Providing quality and secure entertainment services to our customers is our utmost priority. Please contact us at 1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,
Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment

Holy fucking shit. Wow

[Muser]

Looks like i'm gonna cancel my card and get a new one then.

[Muser]

It's a fucking disgrace that it took them basically a week to tell people their bank information could of been stolen.

[LnGrrrR]

lol Sony

Sony PS Network shut down "indefinitely" following attack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/sony-playstation-network-down-ps3_n_853695.html

This is a massive hit to their PR. That's what you get for messing with hackers...

[LnGrrrR]

Sony wanted to try to intimidate modders, and look what it got them. They stuck a big stick in a hornet's nest. I have no sympathy.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Damn, this is crazy. I haven't played my PS3 in over a year due to it being broken. I only used my debit card a couple of times, hopefully nothing more happens.

[Muser]

Microsoft must be jizzing at this.

[Muser]

Should of known Sony's security sucked when Psycho Mantis read my memory card.

/nerdy lefty

[SAtown]

Should of known Sony's security sucked when Psycho Mantis read my memory card.

/nerdy lefty

lol

[MannyIsGod]

Damn!

[Jacob1983]

Damn right Microsoft's jizzing right now. Just think of all the purchases people have made on XBOX Live in the past week and the zero purchases on PSN. I wonder how much money Sony has lost since the PSN shutdown? XBOX Live might cost money to use but when it comes to online content, it beats the shit out of PSN in my opinion.

[spyder]

:lol:lol Xbox rules!!

[leemajors]

Damn right Microsoft's jizzing right now. Just think of all the purchases people have made on XBOX Live in the past week and the zero purchases on PSN. I wonder how much money Sony has lost since the PSN shutdown? XBOX Live might cost money to use but when it comes to online content, it beats the shit out of PSN in my opinion.

It could easily happen to them too, it's not like they could do much if this or any other serious group chose to take them down.

[SAtown]

I'd rather not pay shit and deal with this every once in a while, I just hate that I had to cancel my card and get a new one, which was painless anyways.

I just feel bad for the PS+ users that pay a fee to have rewards and such. Those people should get something free imho

[phyzik]

Sony wanted to try to intimidate modders, and look what it got them. They stuck a big stick in a hornet's nest. I have no sympathy.

I agree with this....

Just to give some more insight on whats really happening though...

It appears a recently released custom firmware called Rebug may be the culprit.

It basically allows people to turn their PS3's into a dev console. A different group of users, supposedly not Anonymous, used the firmware to access the developer networks and found out that while using the dev kit, the PSN networks does not check on credit card info.... leading to large ammounts of piracy through PSN.....

This is supposedly the main reason they shut it down.

Im inclined to believe this scenario.... no way a crude DDoS that Anonymous would have done would have caused this extreme of an outage.

http://www.reddit.com/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/

[timmo]

I still can't believe how long it took them to even acknowledge an issue.

I got this email finally yesterday...



already posted

[TwAnKiEs]

Sony admits utter PSN failure: your personal data has been stolen


Epic fail (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars)

yeah. Kinda scary thank god i dont own one

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol shitty sony is telling everyone to change your pw's and check your credit card statements
buncha fat american kids with no jobs doing this most likely, hope they get caught

[Nathan Explosion]

lol shitty sony is telling everyone to change your pw's and check your credit card statements
buncha fat american kids with no jobs doing this most likely, hope they get caught

Yeah, but, but, Sony deserved it. In everyone's attempt to justify this as Sony "deserving it" they overlooked the fact that the users could be the ones that get fucked, as we finally find out (officially) that credit card numbers and personal information was stolen.

[ManuBalboa]

Another day, another fking company compromising customers' private information.

[ElNono]

Yeah, but, but, Sony deserved it. In everyone's attempt to justify this as Sony "deserving it" they overlooked the fact that the users could be the ones that get fucked, as we finally find out (officially) that credit card numbers and personal information was stolen.

Sony deserves the class action lawsuit that's surely coming their way for failing to secure their network, period. If you're one of the suckers that deposited your info with them, then the responsibility is entirely yours.

This doesn't apply just to Sony. Anybody that knows their salt will tell you not to store purchasing information with any vendor. That goes for Apple, Amazon, etc. I personally use one time transactions declining the option to store my info or simply purchase and use gift certificates.

[leemajors]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/DrForester/SonyIsntGoodWithComputers.gif

[ElNono]

Sony sued for PlayStation Network data breach (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html)

[TwAnKiEs]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/DrForester/SonyIsntGoodWithComputers.gif

:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

Sony deserves the class action lawsuit that's surely coming their way for failing to secure their network, period. If you're one of the suckers that deposited your info with them, then the responsibility is entirely yours.

This doesn't apply just to Sony. Anybody that knows their salt will tell you not to store purchasing information with any vendor. That goes for Apple, Amazon, etc. I personally use one time transactions declining the option to store my info or simply purchase and use gift certificates.

I use a seperate debit card linked to an account with no money in it until i transfer it right before a purchase

[Chachachango]

Guys, i just cancelled my credit card and I should be getting one in 5 or 7 days. Just wanted to know if the charges from the cancelled credit card automatically transfer towards the new credit card that im getting, anyone know?

[Mister Sinister]

I use a seperate debit card linked to an account with no money in it until i transfer it right before a purchase

I do something kinda similar to this. My direct deposit through work is linked to savings, not checking (don't own a credit card), and the debit card/checking account is set up so it won't allow overdrafts. If, God forbid, my debit card info got stolen, whoever did it has a whopping 5 dollars and change, to play with.

[leemajors]

Guys, i just cancelled my credit card and I should be getting one in 5 or 7 days. Just wanted to know if the charges from the cancelled credit card automatically transfer towards the new credit card that im getting, anyone know?

:lmao

[Chachachango]

WOW, now I can't even access netflix. Gay ass shit

[LnGrrrR]

Yeah, but, but, Sony deserved it. In everyone's attempt to justify this as Sony "deserving it" they overlooked the fact that the users could be the ones that get fucked, as we finally find out (officially) that credit card numbers and personal information was stolen.

Because Sony didn't do due diligence and protect their network. Sony was f'ing stupid.

Them deserving of embarrassment doesn't mean people deserve to have their info stolen.

[LnGrrrR]

I agree with this....

Just to give some more insight on whats really happening though...

It appears a recently released custom firmware called Rebug may be the culprit.

It basically allows people to turn their PS3's into a dev console. A different group of users, supposedly not Anonymous, used the firmware to access the developer networks and found out that while using the dev kit, the PSN networks does not check on credit card info.... leading to large ammounts of piracy through PSN.....

This is supposedly the main reason they shut it down.

Im inclined to believe this scenario.... no way a crude DDoS that Anonymous would have done would have caused this extreme of an outage.

http://www.reddit.com/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/

How would that have given them access to customer data though?

And if Sony is saying customer data got stolen as a smokescreen, then they're fucking retarded. It would make MUCH more sense to accept the few pirates and try to track them down, then tell everyone that their info got stolen.

[LnGrrrR]

Holy shit. According to that reddit link, the private info wasn't even encrypted. No f'ing way. That's criminal negligence if so.

[LnGrrrR]

The more I read about this, the more amazed I get.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, This is going to chase a lot of people away. Xbox 720 or whatever is going to be looking good, IMO.

[resistanze]

Is putting credit card info on PSN mandatory? I can't remember if I did, but I've never bought anything on PSN nor do I even use the gaming network.

I'm guessing if I did it was almost 2 years ago with an expired CC.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Is putting credit card info on PSN mandatory? I can't remember if I did, but I've never bought anything on PSN nor do I even use the gaming network.

I'm guessing if I did it was almost 2 years ago with an expired CC.

IIRC, and admittedly this was about 18 months ago for me, it wasn't mandatory. I believe it gives you the option to set up a default account for PSN purchases when you register but you can simply opt to set it up later. Was thinking about getting a couple of the PS1 classics for a change of pace over the summer. Gonna have to think long and hard about that now, that's for sure.

[jimo2305]

supposedly the irc chatlog of the psn hackers

http://pastebin.com/m0ZxsjAb

[MannyIsGod]

Its not mandatory. If you want to buy stuff off the PSN you can just buy PSN cards through Amazon and then turn around and use them instantly on the PSN.

[jimo2305]

i was a psn plus user.. im really not too worried about it.. the card i used was a check card.. yes it's tied to my bank and i could easily just get a new one.. i was planning to get a new one anyway because this one has a dent in it lol

[Kai]

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