When Spurs get to Finals:

[Jimcs50]

Do we want to play Boston with HCA, or do we want to play Chicago without HCA?

I have been wondering which would be best.

[Budkin]

Jimcs50 jinx!

[wontstartdumbthreads]

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[rmt]

Do we want to play Boston with HCA, or do we want to play Chicago without HCA?

I have been wondering which would be best.

CHI - less experienced. I'd rather hang my hopes on trying to contain Rose than dealing with all the weapons BOS has. BOS shoots too well and is too championship-experienced.

[WeNeedLength]

We want to play Atlanta with HCA tbh...

[ohmwrecker]

The very idea of beating the Lakers in the WCF makes me so goddamn giddy that I dare not think of the LOB lest my head explode.

[cheguevara]

Spurs have < 10% chance of reaching the Finals. And the Bulls even less. Why bother thinking about this?

[wontstartdumbthreads]

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin/foto/1098-1-eng-GB/foto_strip_panel.gif
OMG, it's finally happened. Splitter is coming to the Spurs!


http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/hobbes/evil_hobbes/1135-1-eng-GB/evil_hobbes_strip_panel.jpg
Ha ha. The NBA championship is our again!

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/mom_and_dad/dad_reading_paper/222149-1-eng-GB/dad_reading_paper_strip_panel.gif
Hey, they just resigned Matt Bonner for a shitload of money.
Bet Pop plays him a bunch to justify the money.

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin_and_hobbes/relaxing_on_rock/12249-1-eng-GB/relaxing_on_rock_strip_panel.jpg
Do you think Duncan can make it one more year?

[Obstructed_View]

Fear the Centerpiece.

[Josepatches_]

Miami will play the NBA Finals this year.
Boston lost Perkins and they lost good part of his adavantage in the paint.The age is the key too.They aren't young anymore.One year has to be the last one for pierce,Allen & Garnett.

So we'll have HCA in the Finals :toast

[Dex]

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin/foto/1098-1-eng-GB/foto_strip_panel.gif
OMG, it's finally happened. Splitter is coming to the Spurs!


http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/hobbes/evil_hobbes/1135-1-eng-GB/evil_hobbes_strip_panel.jpg
Ha ha. The NBA championship is our again!

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/mom_and_dad/dad_reading_paper/222149-1-eng-GB/dad_reading_paper_strip_panel.gif
Hey, they just resigned Matt Bonner for a shitload of money.
Bet Pop plays him a bunch to justify the money.

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin_and_hobbes/relaxing_on_rock/12249-1-eng-GB/relaxing_on_rock_strip_panel.jpg
Do you think Duncan can make it one more year?

:tu

[Libri]

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin/foto/1098-1-eng-GB/foto_strip_panel.gif
OMG, it's finally happened. Splitter is coming to the Spurs!


http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/hobbes/evil_hobbes/1135-1-eng-GB/evil_hobbes_strip_panel.jpg
Ha ha. The NBA championship is our again!

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/mom_and_dad/dad_reading_paper/222149-1-eng-GB/dad_reading_paper_strip_panel.gif
Hey, they just resigned Matt Bonner for a shitload of money.
Bet Pop plays him a bunch to justify the money.

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin_and_hobbes/relaxing_on_rock/12249-1-eng-GB/relaxing_on_rock_strip_panel.jpg
Do you think Duncan can make it one more year?

Calvin and Hobbes, one of my favorite comics.

[ALVAREZ6]

Chicago without, easily, and as already stated, pretty irrelevant topic. The Lakers are in the Spurs' way, and Boston in Chicago's.

[vander]

Hey, they just resigned Matt Bonner for a shitload of money.
Bet Pop plays him a bunch to justify the money.




Bonner makes 3 million, the big three make 44 million

has Bonner really been less than 1/15th as productive as the big 3?

I'd say of all the Spurs players not on their rookie contract, Bonner brings the most value per dollar right now

:wakeup

[wontstartdumbthreads]

has Bonner really been less than 1/15th as productive as the big 3?


Yes, less. I have it at about 1/43 as productive as the big 3.

[Obstructed_View]

I kinda feel that the 2-3-2 eliminates HCA.

[wontstartdumbthreads]

Bonner makes 3 million, the big three make 44 million

has Bonner really been less than 1/15th as productive as the big 3?

I'd say of all the Spurs players not on their rookie contract, Bonner brings the most value per dollar right now

:wakeup

BTW, are you saying $3,000,000 isn't a shitload of money?

[vander]

BTW, are you saying $3,000,000 isn't a shitload of money?

relative

btw RJ is getting 8+

[vander]

Yes, less. I have it at about 1/43 as productive as the big 3.

based on...

[wontstartdumbthreads]

relative

btw RJ is getting 8+

I agree it's just as egregious.

But that wouldn't have made sense in the context of the comic strip. It was inferring that Bonner was going to be taking Splitter's minutes.

[Mel_13]

Bonner makes 3 million, the big three make 44 million

has Bonner really been less than 1/15th as productive as the big 3?



That may be one of the worst constructed analogies ever posted on the internets.

And yes, Bonner has been less than 1/15th as productive as the combined efforts of Duncan, Parker and Ginobili.

[vander]

That may be one of the worst constructed analogies ever posted on the internets.yes, production per dollar has no place in basketball, basketball isn't a business, money doesn't matter, there is no salary cap


And yes, Bonner has been less than 1/15th as productive as the combined efforts of Duncan, Parker and Ginobili.

based on?

[wontstartdumbthreads]

based on...

His crappy basketball skills.

[vander]

His crappy basketball skills.

yeah that's what i figured :lol

[Mel_13]

yes, production per dollar has no place in basketball, basketball isn't a business, money doesn't matter, there is no salary cap

My comment didn't argue against any of that. My comment was directed at the fact that comparing Bonner's production to the combined production of the Big 3 is silly. It is.



based on?

You brought up this silliness. Why don't you make the case that Bonner is that productive?

[vander]

My comment didn't argue against any of that. My comment was directed at the fact that comparing Bonner's production to the combined production of the Big 3 is silly. It is.



what about it is silly? what about it doesn't compare?

[Oh, Gee!!]

better question: when spurs win the finals, what will be the design on the t-shirts and caps? can I pre-order?

[Mel_13]

what about it is silly? what about it doesn't compare?

Go ahead. Compare Bonner's production to the combined production of the Big 3. You won't be able to do it without looking silly. Prove me wrong if you can.

[wontstartdumbthreads]

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OMG, have you seen vander's posts?


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Ha ha, he's such a dumbass.

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Now he's saying that Bonner is more than 1/15 productive
than the big three.
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Wow. I can't believe how big a dumbass vander is.

[Cessation]

Actually, Ginger is getting 4 mill a year, while Gary Neal 600k, so no Bonner is not the best bang for the buck.

[JR3]

I kinda feel that the 2-3-2 eliminates HCA.

I agree. 2-2-1-1-1 is the best format.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd like the Spurs to beat the Celtics in the Finals.

[ALVAREZ6]

crofl bonner being 1/15th productive as combined efforts of big 3. So, Bonner amounts to 1/3 the total value of any given big 3 player. LOL. Tony is 5 times better overall on offense, 2.5 as good on defense for a total of 7.5. Manu is about 5 times as well, just not currently, on offense, and perhaps 5 times better on defense as well. Tim Duncan is about 4 times better on offense, 9 times better on defense.

vander, your stupid calculations on your stupid statistic are off I think.

[Seventyniner]

The big 3 have a combined 17 All-Star appearances, right? If Bonner was worth 1/15 of that, he'd have one by now.

Ditto for All-NBA Team selections.

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Not to sound defeatist - not at all - but I would hate losing to the Celtics far worse than losing to the Bulls.


I'd rather we played Chicago; plus, I think it would still favor us matchup wise even without HCA.

[tlongII]

If the Spurs play the Blazers in the playoffs I will bet wine against Jimcs50!

[concken]

Well intended threads always turn to shit bc of yall. Thanks

[Em-City]

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OMG, have you seen vander's posts?


http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin_admin/storage/images/strips/selectors/hobbes/evil_hobbes/1135-1-eng-GB/evil_hobbes_strip_panel.jpg
Ha ha, he's such a dumbass.

http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/mom_and_dad/dad_reading_paper/222149-1-eng-GB/dad_reading_paper_strip_panel.gif
Now he's saying that Bonner is more than 1/15 productive
than the big three.
http://www.calvin-and-hobbes.org/var/calvin/storage/images/strips/selectors/calvin_and_hobbes/relaxing_on_rock/12249-1-eng-GB/relaxing_on_rock_strip_panel.jpg
Wow. I can't believe how big a dumbass vander is.


haha. truth.

[vander]

. . . . . . . . Bonner . . . Big 3
on court . . . +8.8 . . . . . . +8.7
off court . . . +4.8 . . . . . . +2.3
difference . . . +4 . . . . . . +6.4 (x3 = +19.2)
PPS. . . . . . . . 1.3 . . . . . . 1.28 or so?
adj FG% . . . . 62% . . . . . . 51% or so
scoring
rebounding
A/TO
etc.
etc.

i doubt there's a stat where Bonner hasn't been at least 1/15th as productive, but it's mob rule on spurstalk, so none of the facts matter, and those arguing against Bonner never have to support their claims

you guys are hilarious, and sad. poor Bonner, greatest scapegoat in NBA history, the sole reason the Spurs won't 5-peat this year
:lol :wakeup

[vander]

Well intended threads always turn to shit bc of yall. Thanks

actually this was a terrible thread, that's why I had to derail it

[Mel_13]

. . . . . . . . Bonner . . . Big 3
on court . . . +8.8 . . . . . . +8.7
off court . . . +4.8 . . . . . . +2.3
difference . . . +4 . . . . . . +6.4 (x3 = +19.2)
PPS. . . . . . . . 1.3 . . . . . . 1.28 or so?
adj FG% . . . . 62% . . . . . . 51% or so
scoring
rebounding
A/TO
etc.

See, I told you that you would look silly, but you couldn't help yourself.

[mytespurs]

Do we want to play Boston with HCA, or do we want to play Chicago without HCA?

I have been wondering which would be best.

Slow your roll-spurs haven't clinched final seed yet. And the ways spurs have played lately, doubt hc would matter as in spurs may not mke it that far.

[SenorSpur]

I think the cart is now pulling the horse.

[silverblackfan]

. . . . . . . . Bonner . . . Big 3
on court . . . +8.8 . . . . . . +8.7
off court . . . +4.8 . . . . . . +2.3
difference . . . +4 . . . . . . +6.4 (x3 = +19.2)
PPS. . . . . . . . 1.3 . . . . . . 1.28 or so?
adj FG% . . . . 62% . . . . . . 51% or so
scoring
rebounding
A/TO
etc.
etc.


Wow. Did not think this comparison would go any farther. I mean.. just wow.

[itzsoweezee]

Boston. That teams looks like shit. The O'Neals are your center options? LMAO.

The Bulls are ridiculously good. They would probably crush the Spurs. Thibadeu's (sp) defense would shit on Popovich's "system." And the Spurs cannot guard Rose or Boozer. I can't see that series going more than five games.

[Old School 44]

I kinda feel that the 2-3-2 eliminates HCA.

Yep, I always disliked this format for the finals. You work all year to secure home court and the league rewards you by taking it away.

Regarding the question, I'd go with Boston, just because I'd like to see the Duncan/Garnett matchup on the biggest stage.

[Jimcs50]

actually this was a terrible thread, that's why I had to derail it

You would derail a thread about lasting peace in the Middle East.

:p:

[DesignatedT]

That's a pretty tough one but that's the last thing I'm worried about.

Regarding the 2-3-2, I never liked this setup either but I still definitely think homecourt is valuable. The finals are almost always going to go 6 games rather then not and to have those last 2 games at home is very crucial.

[Jimcs50]

That's a pretty tough one but that's the last thing I'm worried about.

Regarding the 2-3-2, I never liked this setup either but I still definitely think homecourt is valuable. The finals are almost always going to go 6 games rather then not and to have those last 2 games at home is very crucial.

I think the 2-3-2 format favors the team with HC more than the 22111 format. It is super had to win 3 straight games against a better team.

[Old School 44]

I just don't like if you have HCA in the finals and you split the first two games, you might not see home again. If the HCA team had the choice before the finals started, what format do you think they'd choose?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I just don't like if you have HCA in the finals and you split the first two games, you might not see home again. If the HCA team had the choice before the finals started, what format do you think they'd choose?

Well look at the Celtics and Lakers last year. Boston had a 3-2 lead only to blow it cuz games 6 and 7 were in LA.

As a matter of fact, only two teams in NBA history have won the middle 3 games, which were the 04 Pistons and 06 Heat.

I think having all of your home games in the middle is tough, as it's very difficult to win 3 in a row during the Finals when going up against another championship caliber team.

[IronMaxipad]

*bookmarked*

[DMC]

I just don't like if you have HCA in the finals and you split the first two games, you might not see home again. If the HCA team had the choice before the finals started, what format do you think they'd choose?

If you lose one at home, you've lost HCA anyhow. If the opponent loses one at home, you are right back with HCA again. So it doesn't matter if it's three in a row or not, HCA is what it is. The 2-3-2 system is much better than that 2-2-1-1-1 stuff, in that there's way too much traveling going on (on and off the court).

With 3 in a row on the opponents floor, the burden is really on them if you are up 2-0. Being down 0-2 even going home for 3 is not a good place to be. True the non HCA team can return to the opponents floor up 3-2, but they then have to win one on the road. It's not been easy for a team to win in SA, despite the recent skid.

[Killakobe81]

*bookmarked*

What he said ...even laker fans not making that assumption.

[Mel_13]

What he said ...even laker fans not making that assumption.

Please...

You do realize that you're in the distinct minority as a reasonable, thoughtful Lakers fan.

[Mugen]

What he said ...even laker fans not making that assumption.

Umm, have you ever been downstairs Killa?

[Killakobe81]

Umm, have you ever been downstairs Killa?

LOL well OK I am not making that assumption. Pau's knee bruise and Bynum's perpetual knee injuries make us vulnerable.

[IronMaxipad]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[IronMaxipad]

*Bump*

[rascal]

Bump

Give up on the predictions

[Venti Quattro]

*Bump*

IM with the goods :lmao :lmao :lmao

[DMC]

better question: when spurs win the finals, what will be the design on the t-shirts and caps? can I pre-order?
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