Tiago with the DNP-CD

[ElNono]

:pop: "CROFL"

[Thomas82]

Makes no sense whatsoever!!!

[DesignatedT]

Spurs with the W

[Chomag]

Spurs with the W
Yep, even the Clippers can win sometimes.

[ElNono]

Spurs with the W

Okay

[silverblk mystix]

Pop just letting the league (Lakers) off the hook by NOT developing a TD/Tiago combo...

[DesignatedT]

Yep, even the Clippers scan win sometimes.

You comparing us to the Clippers? :lol

[Chomag]

You comparing us to the Clippers? :lol
No

Only comparing that a win doesnt allways trump that everything is ok.

[Bill_Brasky]

Genius move.

[TE]

Nothing new to see here. Pop is the coach for a reason but the decision to put Blair over Splitter is appalling. Splitter is just a better fit for this team.

[Dex]

fwiw Atlanta was pretty small all night.

That being said, wouldn't hurt for the Spurs to actually try to dictate a mismatch for once, but que sera sera...

[Juanobili]

www.tiagotalk.com

[chazley]

Atlanta is a very small team and is probably the reason he didn't play.

But facts are facts: he's the 5th big on this team, even though , in my opinion, he should the the 3rd big.

[Chomag]

fwiw atlanta was pretty small all night.

That being said, wouldn't hurt for the spurs to actually try to dictate a mismatch for once, but que sera sera...

qft

[Mugen]

Spurs with the W

with the 2nd Best Big getting only 20 minutes. Who woulda thunk it?

[DesignatedT]

with the 2nd Best Big getting only 20 minutes. Who woulda thunk it?

No idea what this means but alright.

[Bill_Brasky]

http://i53.tinypic.com/28irtoo.jpg

[ElNono]

What's with this talk of Atlanta being small?

Collison: 7 ft
Horford: 6'10
Armstrong: 6'11
Pachulia: 6'11

And guys like Horford are athletic as hell..

[Mugen]

No idea what this means but alright.

sorry do you not think Bonner is the 2nd best big on this team like you said earlier this year?

[DesignatedT]

I have never claimed Bonner to be the 2nd best big man on the roster. Clearly Mcdyess is and has been since he has been here. Bonner played well early in the year when Dice wasn't getting many minutes but his play has clearly dropped off as the season wears on.

[Mugen]

I have never claimed Bonner to be the 2nd best big man on the roster. Clearly Mcdyess is and has been since he has been here. Bonner played well early in the year when Dice wasn't getting many minutes but his play has clearly dropped off as the season wears on.

As expected.

I hope Pop gets the memo.

[DMC]

1st of a back to back. Tiago will probably get minutes tomorrow night.

[silverblk mystix]

1st of a back to back. Tiago will probably get minutes tomorrow night.

This fuckin' song is old already...the playoffs are just about here...this bullshit of giving Tiago garbage minutes every third or fourth game is just fuckin' unforgivable...

What good is it for Tiago to get 5-10 minutes tomorrow?

Wanna bet that Bonner at least -DOUBLES- Tiago's minutes tomorrow????

[Knoxxx]

Dyess > Splitter is not a given in my mind. I think with more consistent minutes over the course of the season, Splitter would be clearly > Dyess by now. However, I can't argue that over the course of the season the stready vet = more games won. That could in turn result in home court which could be the difference for our veteran-led team. Therefore there is no clear answer but against ATL tonight I think Splitter easily matches Dice man's productivity with equal minutes.

[Juggity]

Feel like we got pretty lucky tonight. We were down by 9 or 10 near the end of the first half... Pop should stop tempting fate and start giving Splitter consistent minutes or it's going to start going against us again.

[weebo]

No way in hell this team wins a title playing the Bonner/Blair combo for any time during a playoff series.

[NRHector]

This fuckin' song is old already...the playoffs are just about here...this bullshit of giving Tiago garbage minutes every third or fourth game is just fuckin' unforgivable...

What good is it for Tiago to get 5-10 minutes tomorrow?

Wanna bet that Bonner at least -DOUBLES- Tiago's minutes tomorrow????there's the reason he's not in game shape because stupid Pop doesn't let him get in shape

[Knoxxx]

This fuckin' song is old already...the playoffs are just about here...this bullshit of giving Tiago garbage minutes every third or fourth game is just fuckin' unforgivable...

What good is it for Tiago to get 5-10 minutes tomorrow?

Wanna bet that Bonner at least -DOUBLES- Tiago's minutes tomorrow????

Bonner and RJ were horrid but thank goodness we won despite them. Tiago should play a lot though to let Duncan/Dice rest. Hard to argue that Splitter could not have given more than RJ and Bonner combined. 5 points in 30 minutes from RJ is ridiculous, Bowen was a better scorer than he has been lately!

[5in10]

1st of a back to back. Tiago will probably get minutes tomorrow night.

this

[DMC]

This fuckin' song is old already...the playoffs are just about here...this bullshit of giving Tiago garbage minutes every third or fourth game is just fuckin' unforgivable...

What good is it for Tiago to get 5-10 minutes tomorrow?

Wanna bet that Bonner at least -DOUBLES- Tiago's minutes tomorrow????
Tiago is not the answer (not yet). He needs to work with trainers to correct his fundamentals. It's too bad he missed training camp.

[Strategic]

The issue is Blair. Splitter just hasn't surpassed him on Pop's depth chart.

[jjktkk]

Spliiter recently is showing more than Blair. My guess is Pop is trying to develop both of them on the fly. Maybe trying to boost Blair's confidence.

[nbaman99]

Makes no sense whatsoever!!!

well we have back to back, so splitter might get minutes tomorrow night and duncan rest.

[SA210]

Pop just letting the league (Lakers) off the hook by NOT developing a TD/Tiago combo...

[ajballer4]

CIA Pop

[jeebus]

1st of a back to back. Tiago will probably get minutes tomorrow night.
Yeah, the 37 seconds before the end of the first half. Meanwhile, Matty will get 29 minutes and go 2 for 11, 0-6 beyond the arc. Book it!

[pad300]

The issue is Blair. Splitter just hasn't surpassed him on Pop's depth chart.

The issue is Bonner. The "snowman". He's a complete fucking choke, and Pop refuses to realize to accept it.

Duncan >> Mcdyess/Splitter/Blair >>>>> "Snowman"

[Budkin]

It's absolutely ridiculous.

[Mel_13]

Nothing new to see here. Pop is the coach for a reason but the decision to put Blair over Splitter is appalling. Splitter is just a better fit for this team.

This is the part that gets me. It seems pretty obvious that Splitter has outplayed Blair and that Splitter/Bonner is a much better combo than Blair/Bonner. (I gave up on the notion of a reduced role for Bonner a long time ago, it's worked wonders for my peace of mind)

The realistic ceiling for Splitter's role in this year's playoffs is as Tim's backup. I'm still holding out hope that he replaces Blair in that role.


What's with this talk of Atlanta being small?

Collison: 7 ft
Horford: 6'10
Armstrong: 6'11
Pachulia: 6'11

And guys like Horford are athletic as hell..

Atlanta may have some tall guys on the roster, but Collins went out early with an injury and Armstrong hardly played. There were significant stretches of the game where Marvin Williams was the PF.

Just as with the subject of this thread, having 2 7-footers on the roster doesn't mean the team plays big.

[Yorae]

I expect a lot of blair/splitter line up. And less blair/bonner. Novak might play imo.

[Obstructed_View]

Tiago is not the answer (not yet). He needs to work with trainers to correct his fundamentals. It's too bad he missed training camp.

I was going to rip this up, but it's simply too stupid, and I'm too tired of doing it, so :lol

[DMC]

I was going to rip this up, but it's simply too stupid, and I'm too tired of doing it, so :lol

Not a prolific offensive player … Despite his height and quickness, Splitter is not much of a shot blocker … Tends to get frustrated when played physically in the low post … This has led some to question his mental toughness … Throughout his career he has had health trouble so there’s concerns that he could be an injury prone player in the NBA’s 82 game schedule … Must improve on his upper body strength. How big he can actually get is questionable … This impacts him offensively when he fails to finish after contact occurs … Despite being one of the most talented players on the court, tends to defer to teammates and lacks aggressiveness … Surprisingly shows mediocre consistency shooting from mid-range … Not a great free throw shooter … Still prone to fundamental lapses, doesn’t always secure rebounds which enable easy steals for opposing teams … Tends to get out-muscled for rebounding position by stronger opposing forwards …

http://www.thedraftreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3123


Just saying...

[Obstructed_View]

None of the things listed has any casual relationship to his missing training camp. Thanks for ripping it up for me.

[Budkin]

The sad thing is that Pop would have probably pulled this shit with Scola had we not given him away.

[DMC]

None of the things listed has any casual relationship to his missing training camp. Thanks for ripping it up for me.

Him not playing is tied to him missing training camp. I have no idea where you are trying to go with this. Tiago Splitter missed training camp. He needs to work with NBA trainers, Spurs trainers to be precise. I am sure he's done some work, but you can tell when he's out there than he's still trying to figure out where he's supposed to be. I think the guy is amazing, but I don't see any reason to ignore the facts.

[Mel_13]

Not a prolific offensive player … Despite his height and quickness, Splitter is not much of a shot blocker … Tends to get frustrated when played physically in the low post … This has led some to question his mental toughness … Throughout his career he has had health trouble so there’s concerns that he could be an injury prone player in the NBA’s 82 game schedule … Must improve on his upper body strength. How big he can actually get is questionable … This impacts him offensively when he fails to finish after contact occurs … Despite being one of the most talented players on the court, tends to defer to teammates and lacks aggressiveness … Surprisingly shows mediocre consistency shooting from mid-range … Not a great free throw shooter … Still prone to fundamental lapses, doesn’t always secure rebounds which enable easy steals for opposing teams … Tends to get out-muscled for rebounding position by stronger opposing forwards …

http://www.thedraftreview.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3123


Just saying...

That review was written before the 2007 draft.

Just sayin.....

[Obstructed_View]

Him not playing is tied to him missing training camp. I have no idea where you are trying to go with this. Tiago Splitter missed training camp. He needs to work with NBA trainers, Spurs trainers to be precise. I am sure he's done some work, but you can tell when he's out there than he's still trying to figure out where he's supposed to be. I think the guy is amazing, but I don't see any reason to ignore the facts.

Funny how you talk about facts but post complete bullshit like the bolded part, and back it up with a four year old scouting report.

[DMC]

I'm not getting into another pissing contest with the "gang up" crowd. I tend to get the shitty end of the deal.

[DMC]

Funny how you talk about facts but post complete bullshit like the bolded part, and back it up with a four year old scouting report.

If you could rip it apart you would. You obviously kept responding.

Tell me how good Tiago is.

[Mugen]

If you could rip it apart you would. You obviously kept responding.

Tell me how good Tiago is.

He's miles ahead of Bonner and Blair defensively.

And he's about the same offensively when Bonner is clanking open 3s and DeJuan is missing open dunks.

[Sean Cagney]

Atlanta is a very small team and is probably the reason he didn't play.

But facts are facts: he's the 5th big on this team, even though , in my opinion, he should the the 3rd big.

FINALLY I agree with you on here, man thats what I wanted to see from you bro! Some sense and the truth! WHere has this been?

[Splits]

Splitter starts 4 games. Spurs go 0-4. Dude hasn't proven anything this year except that a fifth of our losses come with him in the starting lineup. Props to Pop.

[chazley]

Splitter starts 4 games. Spurs go 0-4. Dude hasn't proven anything this year except that a fifth of our losses come with him in the starting lineup. Props to Pop.

How many of those games did Tim Duncan miss? Tiago looked very good in most of the games he got with Tim out, and to say that he isn't a viable 3rd big in front of Bonner and Blair is kind of stupid, in my opinion.

[jiggy_55]

1st of a back to back. Tiago will probably get minutes tomorrow night.

This.

[#2!]

Beat me to it. I bet McDyess/Duncan play a lot less tomorrow night.

Everytime Splitter doesn't play on the 1st night of a b2b the "he's being saved for tomorrow" line gets rolled out. It's online, in the paper, on pre and postgame shows, but as far as I can tell it holds no weight in Tiago's case. A dnp on one night has no special motivation for Splitter - it is what it is.

No matter how mediocre or poor Bonner plays he still gets the minutes, and is the 1st big off of the bench.

The win was nice, but this situation makes my head explode.

[Mel_13]

And he has not improved on a single thing since then.

just sayin....

Back off the ignore list!

Here ya go:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=GR&state=

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2010/players/sl_sofoklis_schortsanitis/

[mingus]

Splitter starts 4 games. Spurs go 0-4. Dude hasn't proven anything this year except that a fifth of our losses come with him in the starting lineup. Props to Pop.

and the thing you and your shitty observations fail to mention is that Splitter was one of the reasons the Spurs were in position to win any of those games (Portland, Memphis, Denver). and had he played in the 4th in any of those, they may very well have.

[DrSteffo]

and the thing you and your shitty observations fail to mention is that Splitter was one of the reasons the Spurs were in position to win any of those games (Portland, Memphis, Denver). and had he played in the 4th in any of those, they may very well have.

Trolls often have shitty observations, it's their job. Everyone who watched the games and knows anything about basketball agrees with you.

[Rummpd]

Splitter isn't as good.

Your being moronic with your persistance and sublime takes vs. Spitter; despite the obvious signs that he would be at least a top ten NBA starter if allowed to play more and potentially a top 5 center.

Only true "lock" centers getting time in the NBA with potential better than Splitter in the West are a vastly improving Bynum and the vastly under-rated Nene. Chandler blocks less than 1.5 shots a game and is vastly over-rated and in the East only Howard and Bogut are day in and out - true superstars and stars respectively at center.

If only Pop would get over his Ginger and Grizzly Bear fetishes the Spurs would be fine - Manu-_Forever wake up!

[Obstructed_View]

I'm not getting into another pissing contest with the "gang up" crowd. I tend to get the shitty end of the deal.

Perhaps it's by saying stupid shit like "He looks lost out there". Are you also one of the people that says he shouldn't be out there because the other team might run Hack a Shaq on him? There's really nothing to rip up since you have yet to back up the whole "work on fundamentals" thing. The only fundamental the team has worked on with him is his free throw shooting and that's been a disaster so far.

[Obstructed_View]

And he has not improved on a single thing since then.

just sayin....

He only became the best center in Europe since that time, not to mention the MVP awards.

[GrandeDavid]

Yep, even the Clippers can win sometimes.

:lol :lol

Seriously, I'm gonna assume he'll play at least a buck fifteen of time tonight against the lowly Kings.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Yep, even the Clippers can win sometimes.

They cant win 59+ in one season.

[rmt]

Splitter isn't as good.

If you're a fan of this team, wouldn't you want to find out? Bonner's been with this team for 3-4 years now. He already knows the system and plays. Why wouldn't you want another option to go if any of the bigs get in foul trouble.

Do you see the teams looming ahead in the playoffs? Memphis (Randolph/Gasol), OKC (Perkins/Ibaka), DEN (Nene, KMart), LAL (Gasol/Bynum/Odom), BOS (KG, Shaq). When Randolph is killing us on the boards and abusing Bonner in the post, is that when Pop and his apologists will be looking for Splitter to help stop the bleeding?

He should have been integrated. There's no excuse - he's not been injured that long and he's played professionally for years (not a true rookie).

LOL at Bonner with 2pts/6reb (1-8) in almost 21 mins while Splitter collects a DNP-CD. Then we wonder why they got in a hole after Bonner checks in.

And Blair's not much better either. But at least his problems are because of physical limitations. He's not hesitating with his shot. Quite the opposite - I swear he never passes the ball out once he gets it. Still the jury is out on him whether he can stand the pressure of the playoffs. With Bonner, we know what's going to happen.

For God's sake, Pop, no Bonner/Blair in the playoffs.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Funny how you talk about facts but post complete bullshit like the bolded part, and back it up with a four year old scouting report.

Not disagreeing with your overall premise but Tiago does look a bit lost when hes not running a pick and roll. The Spurs run back screens and set up walls for kickouts and he is still getting the nuances of that.

That being said, he has clearly improved dramatically in that regard since hes gotten more time.

[MannyIsGod]

Not playing again tonight. So fucking dumb.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not getting into another pissing contest with the "gang up" crowd. I tend to get the shitty end of the deal.

Thats because you tend to make stupid arguments.

[silverblk mystix]

Wouldn't any sane person think this is a great opportunity to play Tiago while simultaneously keeping TD & Dice injury free for the playoffs?

Pop is a dumb ass.

[Spurs Brazil]

And to make it even worst Blair is playing the worst basketball since he arrived

[Mugen]

Splitter starts 4 games. Spurs go 0-4. Dude hasn't proven anything this year except that a fifth of our losses come with him in the starting lineup. Props to Pop.

another solid take from awktalk. :lmao

[ChuckD]

Danny Green gets first quarter burn. Team Teego throws the rope over the shower rod. :lol

[Quasar]

Common POP, enough with the turd towers!

[ChuckD]

Bonner back in the game with his eye hanging down on his cheek... :lol

[Mugen]

:lmao @ being the last guy off the bench.

Pop skullfucking Tim Duncan's twilight years. :depressed

[Strategic]

While Duncan's out Splitter started 4 games and didn't play in the 4th quarter and the Spurs went 0 - 4.


1st game at Denver, Spurs up by 5 at half, lose by 3
2nd game at Portland, Spurs up by 2 at half, lose by 2
3rd game at Memphis, Spurs down by 5 at half, lose by 7
4th game vs Portland, spurs down by 7 at half, lose by 8

Anybody with eyes and a brain could see that this would be the toughest stretch in the Spurs season. FOR MONTHS!!!! Someone want to blame these losses on Splitter? Look at these simple f....king numbers. The Spurs did not execute properly in the 4th quarter of any of these games. Splitter was not in the games in the 4th. Tiago was let down by the likes of Manu, Tony, Blair, and yes, Matt Bonner. They couldn't finish.

:bang:bang:bang

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

He was never the best center in Europe. He never won any MVP award in anything but secondary competitions in Europe.

hey matt bonner shouldnt you be working on your coach B videos ??you piece of shit:flag:

[Obstructed_View]

He was never the best center in Europe. He never won any MVP award in anything but secondary competitions in Europe.

He was far and away the best center in Europe. The only way you could argue that is if you made a case that he's a power forward, in which case he's the best power forward in Europe. Did he or did he not win multiple MVP awards? I thought so.

Souvlaki.

[Brazil]

KBP is such a powerful troll he is miles away from laka, kool, cul... its not even funny

[Splits]

While Duncan's out Splitter started 4 games and didn't play in the 4th quarter and the Spurs went 0 - 4.


Incorrect. He came into the 4th quarter in the 2nd game against Portland at the 5:56 mark and finished the game. We were up 2 when he entered and lost by 8.

[Josepatches_]

He was never the best center in Europe. He never won any MVP award in anything but secondary competitions in Europe.


Spanish ACB is the best league in Europe outside Euroleague and Euroleague is an international league.

Which one is better? The greek one where 2 teams win all the games? Is it better?

[Bill_Brasky]

ACB is a SECONDARY league.

Splitter was MVP of a second tier competition.

he was never near being MVP of the actual top level in Europe. You are trolling this site at ridiculous proportions at this point.

All of Europe is second tier competition. NBA is the first tier competition in the world, and it's not even close.

So yes, technically Splitter was the MVP in second tier competition, but he was the MVP of the best league outside of the NBA.

[Mugen]

Incorrect. He came into the 4th quarter in the 2nd game against Portland at the 5:56 mark and finished the game. We were up 2 when he entered and lost by 8.

awktalk with the horrible spin job as per usual.

he also fails to mention that Tiago was the second leading scorer that night behind Hill and ended up with 14pts and 9rbs as well as help keep Aldrige to only 9 points.

And that he got 4th qtr time that night because Bonner/Blair got raped the previous game by Gasol/Randolph in crunch time.

The Turd Towers combined for a scintillating 9pts and 10rbs against the Blazers the following night with Coach B going 0-2 from the 3pt line.

[Mel_13]

If NBA is better than Euroleague then Splitter was MVP of the THIRD tier level.

The THIRD competition. The SECOND best in Europe.

Get your facts right.

Not the "best league outside the NBA". The Spanish league isn't "the best league outside the NBA". How is this so hard to grasp?

It isn't as good as the Euroleague, so it CANNOT be "the best league outside the NBA".

Good to see that you've finally accepted the reality that the ACB is better than then Grreek League.

Baby steps...

[BRs.Ganso]

Good to see that you've finally accepted the reality that the ACB is better than then Grreek League.

Baby steps...

Agreed!

Nice step by Forever... :rolleyes

Congrats! :lol

[coachmac87]

Who gives a fuck if he was the best in the "Euroleague". The Spurs FO I'd like to hope knew what they were getting and they have been trying to get him here for a couple years.

What bothers me is that It seems like even if he didn't miss camp or etc. He would still be getting the same PT........

A skilled 7ft player is hard to come by these days, and especially a "skilled" one. We have 2 but only to choose to play 1. FML

[mingus]

Who gives a fuck if he was the best in the "Euroleague". The Spurs FO I'd like to hope knew what they were getting and they have been trying to get him here for a couple years.

What bothers me is that It seems like even if he didn't miss camp or etc. He would still be getting the same PT........

A skilled 7ft player is hard to come by these days, and especially a "skilled" one. We have 2 but only to choose to play 1. FML

the training camp reason came out of Pop's ass because a week after Novak was here he was playing more minutes than Splitter.

[spurspokesman]

I have never claimed Bonner to be the 2nd best big man on the roster. Clearly Mcdyess is and has been since he has been here. Bonner played well early in the year when Dice wasn't getting many minutes but his play has clearly dropped off as the season wears on.

No surprise

[Splits]

awktalk with the horrible spin job as per usual.

he also fails to mention that Tiago was the second leading scorer that night behind Hill and ended up with 14pts and 9rbs as well as help keep Aldrige to only 9 points.

And that he got 4th qtr time that night because Bonner/Blair got raped the previous game by Gasol/Randolph in crunch time.

The Turd Towers combined for a scintillating 9pts and 10rbs against the Blazers the following night with Coach B going 0-2 from the 3pt line.

First, I don't know what you're talking about with the alktalk stuff, the last time you said that he commented on your post.

Second, how is this spin? I'm not blaming him. I'm pointing out a simple fact. The poster was wrong, he said Splitter didn't play in any of the 4th quarters when he started. I corrected him. With a simple fact, including the time he entered the game and the score at that time. How is that spin?

[Mugen]

First, I don't know what you're talking about with the alktalk stuff, the last time you said that he commented on your post.

Second, how is this spin? I'm not blaming him. I'm pointing out a simple fact. The poster was wrong, he said Splitter didn't play in any of the 4th quarters when he started. I corrected him. With a simple fact, including the time he entered the game and the score at that time. How is that spin?



Splitter starts 4 games. Spurs go 0-4. Dude hasn't proven anything this year except that a fifth of our losses come with him in the starting lineup. Props to Pop.

nice try awktalk.

[Mugen]

Dice out. Tiago again the 5th big in the rotation.

Shoulda stayed in Europe cuz Pop just killed your career.

[Capt Bringdown]

Dice out. Tiago again the 5th big in the rotation.

Shoulda stayed in Europe cuz Pop just killed your career.

I'm sure there's other NBA teams that could use a serviceable 7-footer who plays pretty good D.

He absolutely should demand a trade. He won't get a fair shake as long as he's being coached by Pop.

[Mugen]

I'm sure there's other NBA teams that could use a serviceable 7-footer who plays pretty good D.

He absolutely should demand a trade. He won't get a fair shake as long as he's being coached by Pop.

Yup, i would be happy for him too because he seems like a hard working guy and a good teammate.

I wonder what he did though to make Pop have such a personal vendetta towards him.

Either way, Tiago comes out looking like the victim and Pop looks like the stubborn and childish dipshit who lets personal issues get in the way of his team's championship aspirations.

[Thompson]

Shoulda stayed in Europe cuz Pop just killed your career.

Pop's stubbornness keeps on giving; any free agent considering coming here will have to be willing to potentially blow off a year of his career since Pop might not even play him substantial minutes.

[Holden_Caulfield]

Pop's stubbornness keeps on giving; any free agent considering coming here will have to be willing to potentially blow off a year of his career since Pop might not even play him substantial minutes.

gary neal says hi

[4>0rings]

You can tell Sean and company really want Tiago to get more minutes, ALWAYS praising him.

[jeebus]

We need some more "I hate Bonner" threads.

[Thompson]

gary neal says hi

"potentially"

[DMC]

gary neal says hi

I'd like to take that chick in your avatar and catch her in the eye.

[chazley]

Tiago got murdered on defense against Al Jefferson. Couldn't stop a nose bleed. Very pleased with his help defense/rebounding though.