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BRs.Ganso
04-06-2011, 09:51 PM
T.Splitter

MIN: 3:29
4 Points
2 Rebounds
1 Steal
2-4 FT
1-1 FG

M.Bonner

MIN: 20:00

3 Points
4 Rebounds
2 Steal
2 Fouls
1-2FG
-/+ = -2 (just he)

:lmao

:flag:

honestfool84
04-06-2011, 09:51 PM
another Splitter/Bonner thread to go along with all these threads:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176237

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176241

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176022

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175962

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176028

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176035

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176086

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175983

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176231

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175590

:tu

jag
04-06-2011, 09:52 PM
Yeah it's a cruel joke at this point.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 09:52 PM
Needs its own sub forum tbh.

SenorSpur
04-06-2011, 09:52 PM
It's not even funny anymore.

honestfool84
04-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Needs its own sub forum tbh.

:lol

ElNono
04-06-2011, 09:53 PM
:pop: "It's not even fair (to the team)"

BRs.Ganso
04-06-2011, 09:53 PM
another Splitter/Bonner thread to go along with all these threads:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176237

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176241

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176022

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175962

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176028

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176035

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176086

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175983

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176231

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175590

:tu

thanks by recognition. :toast

Mugen
04-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Needs its own sub forum tbh.

that would be awesome, tbh.

Stringer_Bell
04-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Bonner with -2 on the +/-...the only Spur with a negative IIRC

SA210
04-06-2011, 09:56 PM
:pop: "It's not even fair (to the team)"

Someone send Pop this..and ask if it's fair to the team

Bonner 19 min 3 pts 4 reb 2 stl
Splitter 3 min 4 pts 2 reb 1 stl

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 09:58 PM
Someone send Pop this..and ask if it's fair to the team

Bonner 19 min 3 pts 4 reb 2 stl
Splitter 3 min 4 pts 2 reb 1 stlWhy don't you send it?

Why don't you ask him?

DMC
04-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Sorry, but 4pts isn't enough of a sample (nor is 3 minutes) to know how Splitter would have fared. Regardless, Splitter doesn't spread the floor.... :)

SA210
04-06-2011, 10:02 PM
Why don't you send it?

Why don't you ask him?

Hi Pop

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 10:03 PM
Hi PopHi Rielle.

SA210
04-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Hi Rielle.

:sleep

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 10:05 PM
:cry

underdawg
04-06-2011, 10:06 PM
Why don't you send it?

Why don't you ask him?

it would just be a waste of time - Bonner's 46.3% from the 3 (league leading) and the Spurs are 60-19; that's all that needs to be said about Bonner heading into the playoffs. Besides - he's just a role player and how much could he really affect the outcome of playoff games?

SA210
04-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Just stating the obvious., sorry it's hurts your brown nosing feelings :lol

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 10:14 PM
Just stating the obvious., sorry it's hurts your brown nosing feelings :lolAs was I. Sorry I made you cry.

VBM
04-06-2011, 10:17 PM
lmao at +/- tonight. Only one Spurs player has a -

SA210
04-06-2011, 10:17 PM
As was I. Sorry I made you cry.

Don't be mad because the adulterer would have made a better president than the overrated current soft prez :lol

btw, good job your boy Bonner did tonight, he blew Tiago away. :lol

:flag:

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 10:19 PM
Don't be mad because the adulterer would have made a better president than the overrated current soft prez :lolNah, Edwards was entirely too stupid and without character.


btw, good job your boy Bonner did tonight, he blew Tiago away. :lol

:flag:Not my boy. The rabid haters like you are too busy frothing at the mouth to see that.

Sorry you live with such hate and regret. :lol

:flag:

SA210
04-06-2011, 10:22 PM
Nah, Edwards was entirely too stupid and without character.

Not my boy. The rabid haters like you are too busy frothing at the mouth to see that.

Sorry you live with such hate and regret. :lol

:flag:

:lol He beat softy in every debate hands down

And I live with wanting the Spurs to win, all the way, not just in the reg season. That means playing Tiago more. But if you think Blair/Bonner will put a hurtin on the 2 time champs, that further shows how delusional you are just as when you thought Obama would be the savior of our time :lol

jag
04-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Bonner with -2 on the +/-...the only Spur with a negative IIRC

Chazley has a good explanation for that.

Right, Chazley?

ChumpDumper
04-06-2011, 10:31 PM
:lol He beat softy in every debate hands down He's an idiot who fucked around on his dying wife.


And I live with wanting the Spurs to win, all the way, not just in the reg season. That means playing Tiago more. But if you think Blair/Bonner will put a hurtin on the 2 time champs, that further shows how delusional you are just as when you thought Obama would be the savior of our time :lolWhen did I ever say any of that?

You're as big a liar as John Edwards.

And John Edwards is a fucking huge liar.

Strategic
04-06-2011, 10:54 PM
Don't get me wrong. I think Splitter could help the Spurs advance this year, but Popovich sticks to his guns, he has always stuck to his guns. I can picture him sitting down before the first tip of the season and making a seasonal game plan. He had his idea of what this team needed to accomplish it's goals for the entire season. He had to have somebody that could relieve the back court, namely Ginobili, and he found that in Neal. I think he may of had the McDyess/Blair switch in mind from the start. He doesn't want a five man front court rotation. When Tiago missed on preseason, he lost his chance to get in Pop's head. This team will probably win 62 games, I think Popovich will have no trouble sleeping on that. Splitter should have more chances to impress in the last 2 or 3 games of the regular season, I think he will surprise and step it up another notch. At least we can always hope.

:makemyday

BRs.Ganso
04-06-2011, 10:59 PM
Don't get me wrong. I think Splitter could help the Spurs advance this year, but Popovich sticks to his guns, he has always stuck to his guns. I can picture him sitting down before the first tip of the season and making a seasonal game plan. He had his idea of what this team needed to accomplish it's goals for the entire season. He had to have somebody that could relieve the back court, namely Ginobili, and he found that in Neal. I think he may of had the McDyess/Blair switch in mind from the start. He doesn't want a five man front court rotation. When Tiago missed on preseason, he lost his chance to get in Pop's head. This team will probably win 62 games, I think Popovich will have no trouble sleeping on that. Splitter should have more chances to impress in the last 2 or 3 games of the regular season, I think he will surprise and step it up another notch. At least we can always hope.

:makemyday

God bless this! :lol

Man In Black
04-06-2011, 11:07 PM
Tell FREE TIAGO guy to add a few lines for statistics and then wear that shirt.

crc21209
04-06-2011, 11:10 PM
How Splitter didnt even get garbage minutes fucking baffles me...:lol

Strategic
04-06-2011, 11:23 PM
How Splitter didnt even get garbage minutes fucking baffles me...:lol



:pimpslapI'm with you.

duncan228
04-07-2011, 12:26 AM
...Splitter’s playing time again was limited after he could have earned more time earlier in the second half when the game appeared at hand. But Blair’s big game (six points, eight rebounds) and his hustle and grit made Popovich stay with him longer than normal. The result was Splitter getting 3 minutes and 29 seconds in mop-up time in the fourth quarter. But if Popovich decides to give his bench extensive work next week, I’d look for Splitter to get most of the playing time inside.

Five quick takes: Recent wins puts aside residue from Spurs’ losing streak (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/06/five-quick-takes-recent-wins-puts-aside-residue-from-spurs-losing-streak/)
Tim Griffin

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/04/06/five-quick-takes-recent-wins-puts-aside-residue-from-spurs-losing-streak/

crc21209
04-07-2011, 12:31 AM
:lol At Tim Griffin calling 6 points and 8 boards a "big game" for Blair....

Mugen
04-07-2011, 12:42 AM
Tiago was the last guy off the bench tonight. Un-fuckin-believable :lmao

SA media still spinning Pop's stupidity. :toast

Sean Cagney
04-07-2011, 12:52 AM
Bonner with -2 on the +/-...the only Spur with a negative IIRC

YES BUT CHAZLEY WILL AVOID THAT! HE WILL point out some other shit for BONNER! No more + for him! Just a - now lol.

senorglory
04-07-2011, 01:09 AM
...Popovich sticks to his guns, he has always stuck to his guns. I can picture him sitting down before the first tip of the season and making a seasonal game plan.

"Trust in the system, " is one of the things it's been reported Pop has written on the pre-game chalk board.

Obstructed_View
04-07-2011, 01:09 AM
another Splitter/Bonner thread to go along with all these threads:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176237

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176241

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176022

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175962

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176028

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176035

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176086

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175983

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176231

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175590

:tu

Exactly. Time to let this go, folks. It sucks, but it is what it is. Time to just shut up about it and root for the Suns, er ... the Spurs to win the title.

Fireball
04-07-2011, 02:27 AM
Exactly. Time to let this go, folks. It sucks, but it is what it is. Time to just shut up about it and root for the Suns, er ... the Spurs to win the title.

a matchup Lamar Odom vs. Matt Bonner ... no title ... period

howbouthemspurs
04-07-2011, 02:53 AM
Sometimes its not the stats that show what a player is really in there for. Another useless thread

analyzed
04-07-2011, 04:21 AM
Oh believe me Bonner can really affect the outcome of the playoff for the spurs, if he plays 20 minutes and gets manhandled in defense and in rebounds that will cause our exit. 'This is no joke , I'm serious with this. Bonner could be our single biggest reason for failure. If rings are won on the defensive end and in rebounding, remember Bonner has the lowest rebounding avg in the NBA for bigs avg 20 or more minutes, he is also possibly the worst defensive big man in the NBA. So yeah I absolutely believe the Spurs are playing a huge gamble by playing him significantly (15 min ) or so in the Playoffs



it would just be a waste of time - Bonner's 46.3% from the 3 (league leading) and the Spurs are 60-19; that's all that needs to be said about Bonner heading into the playoffs. Besides - he's just a role player and how much could he really affect the outcome of playoff games?

ChumpDumper
04-07-2011, 04:23 AM
spurfan is myopic

SA210
04-07-2011, 07:08 AM
He's an idiot who fucked around on his dying wife.

When did I ever say any of that?

You're as big a liar as John Edwards.

And John Edwards is a fucking huge liar.

He is an idiot for that, I never said he wasn't. And yea he lied, about an affair. He made me sick to my stomach for that crap. I just still think he would have been tougher than softy.

And I didn't say you said that about Bonner and Blair, you're lying by saying I did. :lol But it is safe to assume you are just fine with it, since you get so butthurt over anyone questioning that lineup.

At least we both like Louis C.K. Have a good day Chump. :lol

:toast

:flag:

GrandeDavid
04-07-2011, 07:16 AM
Why don't you send it?

Why don't you ask him?

He lives next to my folks, I'll ask him if I see him. Actually if I see Pop, the brief talks are about anything but basketball.

Obstructed_View
04-07-2011, 07:24 AM
a matchup Lamar Odom vs. Matt Bonner ... no title ... period

K, now you're on record with that, so you can bookmark it and bump when the Lakers win.

weebo
04-07-2011, 07:38 AM
Exactly. Time to let this go, folks. It sucks, but it is what it is. Time to just shut up about it and root for the Suns, er ... the Spurs to win the title.

San Antonio Spuns :depressed

DMC
04-07-2011, 08:09 AM
It's not so much that Splitter is the next coming of Pau Gasol, but that he could be a better option than what we are doing now. I think that's what people are arguing. If and when we meet the Lakers, having two competent bigs on the floor to combat theirs would be a huge plus. If nothing else, just having the option to bring in a guy who can at least show in the paint would be good.

Also, if he's such a liability, which I feel he could be, given his limited playing time (circular argument), why bring him to the Spurs at all? Is he trade bait?

I trust Pop's call here, but I don't understand it completely.

Budkin
04-07-2011, 08:29 AM
The floor must be spread.

biskvito
04-07-2011, 08:31 AM
I like Splitter's game but you guys are just going insane over this. Pop is going all the way with his floor-spreading scheme. "Neal" with it.

++SaiNt TiAg0++
04-07-2011, 09:23 AM
It's not so much that Splitter is the next coming of Pau Gasol, but that he could be a better option than what we are doing now. I think that's what people are arguing. If and when we meet the Lakers, having two competent bigs on the floor to combat theirs would be a huge plus. If nothing else, just having the option to bring in a guy who can at least show in the paint would be good.

Also, if he's such a liability, which I feel he could be, given his limited playing time (circular argument), why bring him to the Spurs at all? Is he trade bait?

I trust Pop's call here, but I don't understand it completely.

this is what im waiting for , ill stay quiet and laugh when i see people after we meet L.A in the western conference finals theres a reason why we started doing well folks WE PLAYED AT HOME AND WE PLAYED SHITTY TEAMS!!! dont b dumb asses dont get cocky over some easy wins, im happy but not fooled.

when we play a real team for 7 games (lakers,dallas) lamar odom/ (god forbid) bynum, nowitzki they will turn bonner into their bottom bitch in a matter of seconds and we'll see matt bonner run around the court like hes on fire cause he knows once they have the ball he isn't worth a shit.....:bang

then the threads of "well i knew it" and "tiago should have got more time period" will fall from spurs talk but in a way i guess you have a point theres nothing we can do about it from here, thats why you go to games and actually speak up

Seventyniner
04-07-2011, 09:50 AM
I bet Tiago finally gets dusted off in game 2 of the WCF. The Spurs are up 1-0, but are down 9 in the 2nd quarter, and Pop finally unleashes the secret weapon.

Oh, who am I kidding? That secret weapon would be Bonner.

rmt
04-07-2011, 11:24 AM
I bet Tiago finally gets dusted off in game 2 of the WCF. The Spurs are up 1-0, but are down 9 in the 2nd quarter, and Pop finally unleashes the secret weapon.

Oh, who am I kidding? That secret weapon would be Bonner.

More than likely it'll be the Spurs down in games 1-3 (having lost 1 or 2 games at home) when he'll realize Bonner is not going to cut it against Gasol/Bynum. I could almost wish that LA had HCA so that Pop could possibly realize this during their home games. Alas, by then, HCA which they worked for the whole regular season will be gone.

Mel_13
04-07-2011, 01:11 PM
It's very simple. It's just that this forum is full of fan boys and homers.

lol at the president of the VSpan fan club calling anyone a fan boy or a homer.

That's rich even for KBP.

beachwood
04-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Splitter is competing with Blair for minutes, not Bonner.

ChumpDumper
04-07-2011, 01:44 PM
Neither Splitter nor Bonner are Greek.

Thank God.

Arc
04-07-2011, 02:03 PM
all i know is, when splitter was starting for duncan, he was putting up around the same numbers with less touches and minutes. and his game has definitely improved since the beginning of the season. he finishes much stronger now, and doesn't do that flip shot shit hardly ever. if he can get his ft shooting to around 70%, i can easily see splitter going 20/10 if pop looks to him more next year.

Obstructed_View
04-07-2011, 07:57 PM
Splitter has zero offensive game. He never had any offensive game, he has none now, and he probably never will have any. That is why he does not play that much and this whole forum is in denial.......

Led by trolls like you and all your BS hype about Splitter here.

The Spurs are one of the top offensive teams in the NBA. They need a center that can defend and rebound. Things the best center from Europe provides.

The Truth #6
04-07-2011, 08:08 PM
Incarcerate Bonner. I don't care if it's Splitter or Blair but both/either should play in front of Bonner in the playoffs. Tightening our rotation when our depth has been our strength all season is counter-intuitive, especially by promoting Bonner who shouldn't have even been re-signed after last year's collapse.

However, one advantage of playing Bonner is that it helps clarify what our defensive approach will be - every team will go against Bonner whenever possible, so at least we know what other teams are going to do.

Caeman
04-07-2011, 09:15 PM
Look guys. The only explanation for Bonner racking up 20+ minutes per game is that Pop has f*cking lost it. The old man is senile and his retirement plan of a vinyard has gone down the f*cking drain because he won't remember a thing about it.

The reason the Spurs have won championships is because of Duncan. Sure Manu and Parker are amazing players that know when the step it up. But let's get real; it was prime Duncan, one of the greatest of all-time. If this assh*le coach would insert Splitter in the rotation, you'd see our defensive rebounds go up, and our inside defense would improve. Could you imagine Duncan and Splitter inside?

I mean, could it be anymore obvious?

SA210
04-07-2011, 09:28 PM
Look guys. The only explanation for Bonner racking up 20+ minutes per game is that Pop has f*cking lost it. The old man is senile and his retirement plan of a vinyard has gone down the f*cking drain because he won't remember a thing about it.

The reason the Spurs have won championships is because of Duncan. Sure Manu and Parker are amazing players that know when the step it up. But let's get real; it was prime Duncan, one of the greatest of all-time. If this assh*le coach would insert Splitter in the rotation, you'd see our defensive rebounds go up, and our inside defense would improve. Could you imagine Duncan and Splitter inside?

I mean, could it be anymore obvious?

I've only waited more than a season for it. :bang

silverblk mystix
04-07-2011, 09:41 PM
I've only waited more than a season for it. :bang

Plus the two or three since Splitter was drafted...

Nathan89
04-07-2011, 10:40 PM
David Aldridge- Just said "I think if Tiago Splitter stays healthy and give them some minutes the Spurs have a great chance at going to Western Finals".

To bad Tiago doesn't get to play.

Josepatches_
04-08-2011, 12:34 AM
It's very simple. It's just that this forum is full of fan boys and homers. He was never half as good in Europe as people here think and claim. He has always been a defensive mobile big man and that was it.

He was never an offensive player. But this forum has convinced itself that he was this great super star player in Europe (which is a pure fantasy and is lunatic stuff).

So because of all this "best center in Europe" BS and it IS pure BS......now the expectations are incredibly out of whack for Splitter.



Lol



So tell me... who was the best center here in Europe last year? and can you name 3 centers better than Splitter playing in Europe?

Pure BS is what you are saying.
Splitter was the best center in the ACB hands down . The MVP of the best league in Europe is clearly a superstar...lol lunatic

So 15.6 ppg in 27 mpg is no offensive game...:lol


Now take a look before to write again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmbpGzzRPM0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTUcsl_Qft4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr1himxTGns




PD: I'm from Spain

analyzed
04-08-2011, 01:57 AM
So Splitter is not an offensive player and you think Blair is ? :lol I can see the logic behind using Bonner over Splitter (offense vs defense) although I don't agree with it. but this I do not get, playing a front court of Blair and Bonner, You tell me what is the sense in that, you not only suck defensively but you don't have offense as well, with no real threat inside vs legit NBA bigs.

Pop is a great coach, that doesn't mean he is always right. If he puts a line-up of 5 guards does his 4 rings legitimise his decision, off course not.

Call a spade a spade , Bonner and Blair is simply wrong. This is not even debatable


[QUOTE=Manu_Forever;5117212]It's very simple. It's just that this forum is full of fan boys and homers. He was never half as good in Europe as people here think and claim. He has always been a defensive mobile big man and that was it.

He was never an offensive player. But this forum has convinced itself that he was this great super star player in Europe (which is a pure fantasy and is lunatic stuff).

temujin
04-08-2011, 05:26 AM
Ehi KBP, take those blue pills, and everything is going to be just fine.
But don't fuck up with the color, the blue not the red ones!!

The red ones are for the summer time.

xtremesteven33
04-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Obviously there is a method to Pops madness. We just havent figured it out. If somehow we win with Bonner playing heavy minutes, Pop is enshrined forever as the greatest coach for believing in Bonner and having the forsyth to see him performing well in the playoffs.

But if Bonner plays bad and Splitter gets more minutes and we still win the title, than Pop is still a genius for also believing in Splitter enough to step in at anytime when called upon to step up and contribute victories. If we get dont win the championship then Pops method didnt pan out. Or maybe the Spurs just werent the best team in the end.

Rummpd
04-08-2011, 02:05 PM
For those of you in San Antonio please go to the games and continue to put up signage - maybe one day soon some reporter with stones will actually ask Pop the question again about the obvious.

BRs.Ganso
04-08-2011, 03:53 PM
You are an idiot. I have explained over and over which centers were better than him. And the ACB has never in history been the best league in Europe you trolling moron.

It is a FACT that the best league is the Euroleague, NOT the ACB. So keep trolling here like a freaking idiot.

Splitter had 14PPG in Euroleague

shut up and back to your cave!

:lmao

Obstructed_View
04-09-2011, 02:50 AM
You are just a troll. He was never the best center in Europe and anyone that follows basketball in Europe knows that.

You claim to follow basketball in Europe, and you said that he was to European basketball what Jeff Foster is to the NBA.

:lol troll.

Souvlaki

ChumpDumper
04-09-2011, 10:08 PM
You never watched an NBA game without a Greek player in your life.

FACT.