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phyzik
04-10-2011, 09:34 PM
Secret FBI memo 'proves' govt. covered up Roswell alien landing of 1947

(thats the title of the article, not my beliefs or opinion)

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/132521/20110410/ufo-fbi-secret-memo-flying-saucer-disc-1947-roswell-new-mexico-1947-landing-aliens-dead-bodies-crash.htm

A secret memo released online by the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) in its 'Vault' has emerged as proof for the famed landing -- or crash or capture -- of a flying saucer with three dead aliens in Roswell in New Mexico in June 1947.

The memo, titled 'Flying Saucers', was written by FBI agent Guy Hottel. The decades-old memo, which was published by the FBI in its 'Vault,' says "three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico', citing an Air Force investigator.

The memo also says the investigator passed on the information to a special agent. Hottel says this about the flying saucer: "They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter." "Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall."

Newspapers were awash with news of the alien sighting, and headlines said a flying saucer has been captured with three dead aliens. Subsequently, photographs of three aliens, who were much like human beings in shape but shorter in frame, emerged along with reports that the dead foreigners' bodies had been autopsied.

The newly emerged Hottel memo also describes the alien bodies found in the flying disc. It says the bodies were "dressed in a metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots."

Initially the military released a statement saying the rumors concerning alien sightings in New Mexico has turned out real with the crash of the flying disc.

"The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc," the military statement said.

Rumors flew thick and fast that the U.S. military had captured aliens who frequently visited the area, fuelling fears of aliens and theories about alien invasion.

But the military immediately backtracked, saying what it had reported as a flying disc with aliens just hours earlier was indeed a weather balloon that crashed in the area. Although the issue died down immediately, theories of a government cover-up of the alien landing resurfaced strongly in the 1970s. Many people believed that the U.S. government covered up the alien issue in order to prevent public panic and since it did not have clear clues as to how to deal with this new, strange problem.

Emboldening the conspiracy theory of the government cover-up, the Hottel memo says there were no further investigations into the incident though the air force investigator passed on the information to a secret agent.

Hottel's explanation that possibly the flying saucer was brought down, or crash-landed, also gives credence to some of the conspiracy theories. He states that, according the informant, the "very high-powered radar set-up in that area" set up by the government may have interfered with the "controlling mechanism of the saucers."

The Roswell incident was forgotten by contemporary people but it resurfaced strongly in the 1970s when serious UFO researchers scanned the issue once again.

Here's some history from Wikipedia: "...in 1978, physicist and ufologist Stanton T. Friedman interviewed Major Jesse Marcel who was involved with the original recovery of the debris in 1947. Marcel expressed his belief that the military had covered up the recovery of an alien spacecraft. His story spread through UFO circles, being featured in some UFO documentaries at the time."

Again, in February 1980, The National Enquirer ran its own interview with Marcel, garnering national and worldwide attention for the Roswell incident.

The release of secret documents from FBI's records will certainly enliven the UFO debate once again. While releasing the document the FBI has said the contents of the memos may not reflect the agency's current beliefs and positions.


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Here's a link to the document thats been released due to the freedom of information act.

http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy%20Hottel%20Part%201%20of%201/view

phyzik
04-10-2011, 09:36 PM
As far as I can tell, this is just a memo stating that someone from the airforce said these things.... Its not outright saying that they are true.... just that someone said it.

4>0rings
04-11-2011, 12:33 AM
Just another leak provided by the government to get the public used to the idea of other beings in the universe.

Sisk
04-11-2011, 12:41 AM
I've actually heard a much more intriguing idea of Roswell that seems more realistic to me.

Basically, what crashed was a Russian ICBM (technology we didn't have at the time) that would've terrified Americans as we didn't have anything to repel a potential attack. The UFO conspiracy was an easy out for the U.S. as it prevents national panic that the Russians could attack us and we were defenseless. The ICBM that was found was suppose to fly over the U.S. and land in Russia and had no warhead aboard.

Just another theory, though.

phyzik
04-11-2011, 01:10 AM
I've actually heard a much more intriguing idea of Roswell that seems more realistic to me.

Basically, what crashed was a Russian ICBM (technology we didn't have at the time) that would've terrified Americans as we didn't have anything to repel a potential attack. The UFO conspiracy was an easy out for the U.S. as it prevents national panic that the Russians could attack us and we were defenseless. The ICBM that was found was suppose to fly over the U.S. and land in Russia and had no warhead aboard.

Just another theory, though.

Every misdirection, including aliens crashing or Russian missles, helps to secure our military secrets. Now, Im not a blind patriot.... I'd love to visit the "secrets" that Roswell holds, and I would hardly bat an eye if there was some alien technology there, but I believe its all misdirection to keep foreign powers from whats really being developed there. Thats all.

BlackSwordsMan
04-11-2011, 01:14 AM
thats nice post tht shit here so some of us can end up in an ''accident'' tomorrow

Kyle Orton
04-11-2011, 01:30 AM
Those who think this planet is the only place where life exists are living in ignorance. It's not a question of if other life exists, it's a question of where.

TE
04-11-2011, 02:47 AM
Those who think this planet is the only place where life exists are living in ignorance. It's not a question of if other life exists, it's a question of where.
Pretty much agree with DOK. The universe is beyond the combination of words that describe vastness and large. It has been stated by astrophysicists that there are more stars than people that have ever existed. The probability of one of those stars being the center of some solar-system like design is unknown but I would believe the probability and actuality of this being the case exists out there. There is a statistical evaluation that is used to compute the amount of intelligent civilizations out there. This is conducted via a famous equation known as the 'drake' equation.

More about it is in the link, interesting stuff.
http://www.setileague.org/general/drake.htm

xtremesteven33
04-11-2011, 03:34 AM
Truth is far stranger than fiction

desflood
04-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Roswell is a red herring. Something much bigger took place and a distraction was needed for the "common folk".

DoubtingThomas
04-11-2011, 08:56 AM
Nothing new.

lefty
04-11-2011, 09:41 AM
Roswell is a red herring. Something much bigger took place and a distraction was needed for the "common folk".
I agree

Wild Cobra
04-11-2011, 12:16 PM
Should read this:

FBI "Hottel Memo" Reveals UFO Hoax (http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/132868/20110411/fbi-hottel-memo-reveals-ufo-hoax.htm)

mrsmaalox
04-11-2011, 02:12 PM
I'm not dissing anyone who takes interest in all this, it just makes me wonder why I don't care about it at all? If it was real aliens that's fine by me, and if there was a cover up it doesn't matter to me either. My kids love this stuff, it makes me :sleep

Sisk
04-11-2011, 02:39 PM
Those who think this planet is the only place where life exists are living in ignorance. It's not a question of if other life exists, it's a question of where.

Agreed

Summers
04-11-2011, 04:41 PM
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist or "I want to believe" type, but I have seen and heard some things that make me believe we are being visited by something outside our planet. There is compelling evidence for this and at some point, one has to begin to feel insulted and/or dumbfounded that our government either continues to lie about what they know or refuses to treat the possibility as the serious topic it is.

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4>0rings
04-11-2011, 06:15 PM
Swamp gas

Wild Cobra
04-11-2011, 07:17 PM
I have a serious problem when people are adamant that alien technology is how we discovered things like Velcro and semiconductors. Such people to me fail to comprehend the human creativity.