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SPARKY
06-06-2005, 04:13 PM
During our wait for the start of the 2005 NBA Finals, I feel that it is quite appropriate that SpursTalk.com honor the fans of the Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks, Indiana Pacers and Portland Trailblazers who frequent this forum by taking a look ahead at the upcoming NBA draft.

The Spurs, as of now, currently hold only one pick in the draft (held at Madison Square Garden on June 30th), their first round selection (#28 overall). Your guess is as good as mine with regards to what they ultimately will do with it. While history is on the side of them trading out of the first round to avoid the guaranteed contract, they have not had a problem with drafting and bringing in that player immediately (ie Udrih).

A brief glance at the draft board shows a few teams with multiple second round picks. Such teams might be potential draft day trading partners for the Spurs. Why not pick up the rights to a couple more international prospects and put them with the rest?

In any event, it would be nice if the Spurs can turn their pick into multiple prospects to make up for the couple of draft picks they foolishly gave away in the Malik Rose trade.

spur219
06-06-2005, 04:20 PM
The Spurs will probably draft that first round pick unless they see a foreigner that they really like. Of course the Spurs won't say who they like but I did read in an another article that Buford has his whole board in his office with a bunch of foreign young players. So unless they like someone they will draft if not they will trade and get some rights to some other foreign players. One thing is for sure though. If they do get someone it will be a foreign player.

SPARKY
06-06-2005, 04:27 PM
Teams with multiple second round picks in the draft:

Atlanta (#31, 59)
Boston (#50, 53)
Golden State (#40, 42)
Los Angeles Lakers (#37, 39)
Orlando (#41, 44)
Seattle (#48, 55)
Toronto (#38, 58)
Utah (#34, 51, 60)

Granted, the Spurs may spot a player who they would like to trade up for, but it seems like they would be more inclined to trade out of the 1st round, especially with a somewhat full roster and ever present payroll concerns. Any of the above could make for a potential draft day trading partner...

RobinsontoDuncan
06-06-2005, 04:27 PM
See my sig for details on whom we should draft.

mavsfan1000
06-06-2005, 04:34 PM
Here's a mock draft I found
1. Milwaukee Andrew Bogut 7-0 242 C Utah

2. Atlanta Marvin Williams 6-9 230 SF UNC Fr.

3. Portland Chris Paul 5-11 175 PG Wake Forest So.

4. NewOrleans Deron Williams 6-3 210 PG Illinois Jr.

5. Charlotte Gerald Green 6-8 200 SF TX HSSr.

6. Utah Fran Vazquez 6-10 230 PF Spain 1983

7. Toronto Raymond Felton 6-0 194 PG UNC Jr.

8. New York Charlie Villanueva 6-11 240 PF Conn So.

9. Golden St. Channing Frye 7-0 248 C Arizona Sr.

10. LA Lakers Chris Taft 6-10 260 PF/C Pittsburgh So.

11. Orlando Martell Webster 6-7 235 SG/SF WA HSSr.

12. LA Clippers Tiago Splitter 6-11 236 PF Brazil 1985

13. *Charlotte Antoine Wright 6-7 205 SG Tex. A&M Jr.

14. Minnesota Danny Granger 6-8 225 SF New Mex. Sr.

15. New Jersey Sean May 6-8 260 PF North Carolina Jr.

16. *Toronto Joey Graham 6-7 225 SF Oklahoma St.Sr.

17. Indiana Rashad McCants 6-3 207 SG UNC Jr.

18. Boston Hakim Warrick 6-8 220 SF/PF Syracuse Sr.

19. Memphis Rudy Fernandez 6-5 180 SG Spain 1985

20. *Denver Johan Petro 7-0 260 C France 1986

21. *Phoenix Monta Ellis 6-2 175 PG MS HSSr.

22. Denver Andrew Bynum 7-0 280 C UConn HSSr.

23. Sacramento CJ Miles 6-6 210 SG TX HSSr.

24. Houston Andray Blatche 7-0 230 PF NY HSSr.

25. Seattle Jarrett Jack 6-3 202 PG Georgia Tech Jr.

26. Detroit Wayne Simien 6-8 255 PF Kansas Sr.

27. *Utah Kennedy Winston 6-6 220 SG Ala. Jr.

28. San Antonio Ike Diogu 6-8 255 PF Arizona St. Jr.

29. Miami Ronny Turiaf 6-10 243 PF Gonzaga Sr.

30. *New York Randolph Morris 6-10 266 C Kentucky Fr.

SPARKY
06-06-2005, 04:35 PM
Perhaps the Spurs will begin to find it more difficult to engage in pick swaps due to their talent evaluation prowess but one should never cease to underestimate the stupidity of the average NBA General Manager...

ducks
06-06-2005, 04:53 PM
damm you sure miss rose

TNT21
06-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if we could land Hakim Warrick, he could be Bowen's understudy, but odds are that he will go high in the draft.

Big Pimp_21
06-06-2005, 05:20 PM
is Salim Stoudemire gonna fall to the 2nd round? I know he's not great, but the guy is explosive and has a nice shot.

tlongII
06-06-2005, 05:23 PM
I think the Blazers will draft Gerald Green.

wildbill2u
06-06-2005, 05:53 PM
Does anyone know the answer to these questions:

1.If a team drafts a Euro with their first round choice and the player doesn't come over and play, does the team still get charged a first round salary against the cap?

2. Or does the salary charged only accrue when and if the player comes over, is signed and plays?

3.And if it takes a few years before the player comes over, is the charge against the cap the first round of the year he is drafted?

If there's no charge for a Euro who doesn't come over, it's clear why the Spurs have been using their draft choices on them. It saves them big bucks when they don't have an interest in a first round American player at 28th or lower pick.

ChumpDumper
06-06-2005, 06:26 PM
Granted, the Spurs may spot a player who they would like to trade up for, but it seems like they would be more inclined to trade out of the 1stThat's my thinking. There are probably one or two players they'd probably like at #28, but if they aren't available the draft is pretty deep in prospects with that fabled quality: "upside." Two 2nd rounders for a #28 and some cash might work out -- I don't think it violates the Stepien rule.

JLH Fans
06-06-2005, 06:28 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if we could land Hakim Warrick, he could be Bowen's understudy, but odds are that he will go high in the draft.
U are right.As I told before he is my favourite for months,could be a great defender and very athletic as well,so we should take him.

ChumpDumper
06-06-2005, 06:29 PM
1.If a team drafts a Euro with their first round choice and the player doesn't come over and play, does the team still get charged a first round salary against the cap?
There is a cap charge equal to the rookie scale the player would get at the time the cap levels for each team is set, regardless of whether the team intends to sign that player over the summer or not.

RobinsontoDuncan
06-06-2005, 07:36 PM
so we should trade our 1st round pick for a high second round pick to nab Luka

Solid D
06-06-2005, 07:49 PM
If Turiaf is there at 28... it's mighty tempting to keep that pick.

RobinsontoDuncan
06-06-2005, 10:10 PM
If Turiaf is there at 28... it's mighty tempting to keep that pick.


you cant store him away overseas though, therefore Luka is the best available pick IMO.

Man I'm really pimpin' this kid hard.

TDMVPDPOY
06-06-2005, 10:33 PM
I say we trade up!!! give a deal to sum deal with brown and sum other scrubs on teh team to move up..

mattyc
06-06-2005, 11:15 PM
Who knows this year. Some seem to think we'll go for a college kid, others seem to think we'll go for another Euro....

CIA.