Game 7: Pistons vs Heat Thread

[1Parker1]

Sorry, didn't know if there was a thread on this or that anyone else is watching. I predicted before that I was 99% sure Pistons will win this. Right now score is 9-13 Heat, with Heat shooting 46% and Pistons 36%

[1Parker1]

Damn, Shaq is looking pretty healthy to me. Someone needs to wake up Billups. Rasheed, and Big Ben. I bet a lot of money on them :(

[myhc]

Shaq looks like he can go for a monster 30 and 10 night. But its early on and he may tire down the stretch. We'll see. And Wade is a warrior.

[Big Pimp_21]

I'm still torn as to who I want to win this one. I think that Miami will be easier to beat, but I HATE Shaq!

[1Parker1]

Nice to see Rasheed waking up towards the end of the first with a quick 6 points.

[myhc]

Losing Damon Jones is huge for the Heat.

[1Parker1]

I'm still torn as to who I want to win this one. I think that Miami will be easier to beat, but I HATE Shaq!

:lol That's exactly how I see it. I hate Shaq, Alonzo, and Wade. The way I see it, it would be sweeter to beat them :)

[midgetonadonkey]

damn hamilton is getting hot

[1Parker1]

Damn, Hamilton is on fire tonight, 6-6, while guarding D-Wade on the other end.

[1Parker1]

So, anyone else impressed with Miami and Detroit?? Or do you all think they look beatable by the Spurs??

[mavsfan1000]

Deeetroitttt Bassssketbaalll!!! Hamilton is on fire. Defense is unbelievable right now :lol

[myhc]

1. Heat lose Damon Jones and are working with a less than 100% Wade.
2. Rip Hamilton looks like he could go for 30 tonight.

[midgetonadonkey]

who's everybody cheering for? personally i want the heat to make it. i want shaq to get as close as he can to the trophy then lose it to timmy and the gang

[myhc]

Shaq needs to get back in the game. This is all on him.

And I want the Heat to win. That is the path of least resistance in my opinion.

[1Parker1]

who's everybody cheering for? personally i want the heat to make it. i want shaq to get as close as he can to the trophy then lose it to timmy and the gang

I don't know. I know Pistons are going to win, but I'd rather play Miami--they seem more beatable.

[Manu20]

who's everybody cheering for? personally i want the heat to make it. i want shaq to get as close as he can to the trophy then lose it to timmy and the gang

May the best team win. Also, it would be sweet to beat the champs in the finals.

[1Parker1]

Oh god, does any1 else want to reach into their Televisions and slap Alonzo Mourning across the head?? I can't stand that guy.

[myhc]

Oh god, does any1 else want to reach into their Televisions and slap Alonzo Mourning across the head?? I can't stand that guy.

What did he do? Let me guess, did he flex his biceps?

[myhc]

Dangerous time now for the Heat. The Pistons are about to break this game open. If Shaq was supposed to be the MVP, he needs to take this team on his shoulders now.

[Manu20]

Wow Detroit can't miss right now.

[mavsfan1000]

I think Shaq is already tired.

[ducks]

heat need some o NOW or game over

[Tek_XX]

Stern on suicide watch

Seriously you can tell who is the more complete team.

[1Parker1]

Get Linsay Hunter out of there.

[midgetonadonkey]

Are they ever going to call a 3 second on Shaq? Seriously the dude is in the paint for the whole shot clock.

[ducks]

suns are much better then either of these teams

[1Parker1]

Billups is 1-6, i think he's waiting for the 4th quarter....and as I am saying this he scores a 3 pointer :)

Wade is also now 2-7.

[Duff McCartney]

Man...Dwyane Wade is laying a big egg.

[midgetonadonkey]

I don't think Wade is even close to 70%. Unless they inject him at half-time, I think this one is over.

[1Parker1]

suns are much better then either of these teams

???? Ducks, Suns don't play any DEFENSE! Are you watching the Pistons hold Miami to 33 points with 2 minutes left in Game 7 at Miami's HC???

[myhc]

Can't fault Wade at all. The role players like Haslem need to step up big time.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I swear to god people, even if we see the harder team in the finals (detroit) CHAUNCY BILLUPS IS A ONE TRICK PONY!!!
ive never seen him do anything in my entire life except palm the ball and call it dribbling, and shoot three pointers

[1Parker1]

I think Wade may step it up in the 4th quarter. Both Miami and Pistons are similiar in that sense that they both have players who know how to, and aren't scared to step it up in the 4th quarter of close, important games: Billups and Wade. I expect the two to trade shot for shot in the 4th if its a close game.

[Tek_XX]

Woah he's missing layups, yeah he should take the injection.

[midgetonadonkey]

Usually he would've dunked that.

[myhc]

Damn. Just throw all 7-0, 280 pounds of Campbell at Shaq.

[Duff McCartney]

What's up with Wade? This dude is looking for a foul call everytime he drives to the hoop. Bitch you aren't Jordan.

[atlfan25]

shaq w/ the beautiful touch at the line

[myhc]

Jesus someone stop Hamilton!!!!!! :pctoss

[midgetonadonkey]

They can even use Darko to take a few fouls. Throw the bastard in there, let's see what he can do.

DARKO! DARKO! DARKO!

[1Parker1]

Shaq chokes 2 FT's :) Nice to know some things never change. I am very unimpressed with the Pistons and Heat bench right now.

[Duff McCartney]

What the fuck? That was a clean block, that was garbage.

[Solid D]

Eddie F. Rush is seeing things again.

[1Parker1]

What's up with Wade? This dude is looking for a foul call everytime he drives to the hoop. Bitch you aren't Jordan.


Have you watched any Heat games this season? Wade gets calls if the opposing player breathes on him. Seriously, Wade gets bailed out by the refs so many times in situations where it should be a TO on him.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Seriously has anyone seen Chauncy Billups take a normal dribble in his nba career????

Even in his commercial he had a few months ago he was blatantly carrying and palming the ball

this is why usa blew it in the olympics

[Tek_XX]

The new lakers going down, it's not looking good.

[ducks]

pistons d has little to do with the points heat are putting up
heat players are hurt

pistons d is good but you have to look at the health of the heat
'if pistons were so good why game 7
pistons do not scare me at all

[myhc]

Eddie Jones lives up to his choker reputation. He's 2-8 now.

[1Parker1]

Damn 3 fouls on Wade at the half.

[midgetonadonkey]

Did they say these three are officiating the Finals??

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Duncan faced his toughest matchup against Camby, no way the Wallaces play him better than him

[atlfan25]

damn, what a play to end the 1st half

[myhc]

Eddie Jones hits a nice shot.

[Tek_XX]

woah new life for the Heat

[atlfan25]

Duncan faced his toughest matchup against Camby, no way the Wallaces play him better than him
rasheed plays excellent D on duncan, better than camby i'd say

[1Parker1]

pistons d has little to do with the points heat are putting up
heat players are hurt

pistons d is good but you have to look at the health of the heat
'if pistons were so good why game 7
pistons do not scare me at all


Ducks, talk to me after Spurs play Detroit after a few games.

[mavsfan1000]

I can't believe why didn't Billups get the ball at the end of the quarter. :wtf

[1Parker1]

Wow, poor way to close out the half by detroit. Nice shot by Eddie Jones, though. Damon Jones, starting PG, has yet to score...and they are only down by 5. Not bad.

[Tek_XX]

Rasheed is on of Duncans toughest covers due to his three ability and he plays good defense.

[Solid D]

I ran the DVR replay back and Eddie got the shot off with .02 sec. left. It's good.

[midgetonadonkey]

pistons d has little to do with the points heat are putting up
heat players are hurt

pistons d is good but you have to look at the health of the heat
'if pistons were so good why game 7
pistons do not scare me at all

Its a pretty good point, in my opinion. I think about how they needed seven games to beat the Pacers. The Ron Artestless, 50% O'neal Pacers!! I will never say it's guarenteed but I like our chances.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

rasheed plays excellent D on duncan, better than camby i'd say


Duncan's admitted himself Marcus Camby is like the toughest matchup for him

[myhc]

I've seen enough 6-22 performances by Duncan to know that Wallace is a very effective defender.

[1Parker1]

Wow, I cannot wait to see the Spurs play against one of these teams! I think Spurs are clearly better then Miami and Pistons--our bench is what puts us over the top, IMO, well and that guy who wears #21. I still think it will be a hard fought series because its the Finals, the stakes are high, and this is the stage where teams find unlikely heros and miracle shots. So anything is possible. God, I love the NBA!! :)

[midgetonadonkey]

I worry about Prince's defensive ability. He is great and will be a difficult matchup against Ginobili. The Parker-Billups match concerns me as well, but I'm pretty sure that Parker can blow by him more often than not.

[orhe]

duncan says that long and athletic big man like camby and wallace are his toughest guards.

[midgetonadonkey]

duncan says that long and athletic big man like camby and wallace are his toughest guards.

I'd rather have Ben Wallace guarding Duncan than Rasheed. Maybe Pop will move Duncan to the 5 and have Horry at the 4 for big parts of the game. Duncan should be able to have success against Ben.

[mavsfan1000]

What will decide this series is you can put Bruce Bowen on Hamilton and completely shut down Detroit.

[exstatic]

Rip Hamilton is a cool as the underside of your pillow.

[atlfan25]

wade w/ a nice stroke

[myhc]

Wade!!!!

[myhc]

Man...Dwyane Wade is laying a big egg.

:blah

[Guru of Nothing]

I'm just jumping into this thread without reading everyone else's comments. If the Heat find a way to win this game, the Spurs will sweep - okay, 5 tops.

Nets 2K3 > Heat 2K5

[Tek_XX]

The Heat are just hanging around

[Solid D]

Is Eddie F. Rush a Miami resident? Dude it's a bit much, don't you think?

[mavsfan1000]

The Heat will win this game. Detroit will go in a drought like they usually do. Refs won't let Detroit win. Watch the ending.

[midgetonadonkey]

No matter how fucked up the offciating is, I think people are giving them too much credit. If the Pistons lose this, it's on them. The referees can't stop the shots from going in.

[myhc]

Dwayne Wade is the truth. God damn he's good.

[Tek_XX]

The Heat are the worst inbounding team i've ever seen

[Manu20]

Wade is on fire!!

[midgetonadonkey]

I hate how they show all the celebrities at the Heat games. I guess TNT and ABC miss all of Hollywood being at Laker's games so they shipped them all to Miami.

[Tek_XX]

I wonder if he took the injection.

[mavsfan1000]

Officiating is falling for the flop now. :pctoss

[Amuseddaysleeper]

who r the majority of the people here rooting for in game 7? im goin for the heat cuz SA would have a much easier time w/ the heat than detroit

[myhc]

The Heat.....although with the way Wade is playing with the injury, I'm not so sure the Heat will be the easier matchup.

[mavsfan1000]

The heat are an offensive juggernaut. You can't stop them. They also slow down the tempo.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The heat are an offensive juggernaut. You can't stop them. They also slow down the tempo.

we did fine against the bigger offensive juggernaut in the suns. the spurs are too deep for the heat while detroit would fare against us much better

[mavsfan1000]

They beat you in a different way. The Heat slow down the tempo and the suns speed up the tempo. The only times the Heat run are on turnovers.

[Tek_XX]

i guess we should all be careful what we wish for but both these teams are tough so you might as well pick one.

[Manu20]

This is going to be a great 4th quarter. Heat lead by 2.

[td4mvp21]

I have no clue i prefer the Pistons. The Heat clog the paint on drives, and with Shaq, that makes it much more harder for inside scores. Pistons are overall a good defensive team, much like the Spurs. I think we can beat either team, but the Miami refs would give us all headaches.

[mavsfan1000]

Miami is a complete team. They got 2 superstars, good role players, and athletics guards that force turnovers. Are you sure you want Miami?

[ducks]

damm it I want to beat them both!

[Solid D]

No matter how ***** up the offciating is, I think people are giving them too much credit. If the Pistons lose this, it's on them. The referees can't stop the shots from going in.

This is anybody's game. The officiating by Rush is the oddity. Bavetta and Crawford seem to be fair on their calls. Eddie F. just ain't seein' it. This game will be won by the players...I agree.

[Tek_XX]

If your the miami Heat why the hell is dooling on the floor. Dudes taking bad shots and turning it over.

[Dex]

From this point on, I am going to assume that whoever is leading will be the team the Spurs will face.

If the lead changes, so does my opinion. Just call me Bandwagon Man.

FUCK! SHAQS COMING!

[ducks]

I said refs will not decide who wins game 7

[Solid D]

Oops. Dueling Doolings. :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

dooling needs to chill out or he's single handedly gonna lose gm 7 for the heat

[Solid D]

He just made two straight buckets, though, and Damon is gimpy on that twisted ankle.

[Duff McCartney]

They beat you in a different way. The Heat slow down the tempo and the suns speed up the tempo. The only times the Heat run are on turnovers.

How much of a different way? The Spurs are better in the half court than the Heat are. The Spurs showed in the WCF that they can run and they can slow it down if they wanted.

[mavsfan1000]

Dooling is playing awesome. He is making things happen against a solid defense.

[mavsfan1000]

How much of a different way? The Spurs are better in the half court than the Heat are. The Spurs showed in the WCF that they can run and they can slow it down if they wanted.
Lakers of last year played half court. This team can do both also. They play half court with Shaq and Wade able to create for others. Their defense is pretty good also.

[Duff McCartney]

Looks like it's gonna be Miami vs San Antonio.

[myhc]

5 on Rasheed! :lol

[mavsfan1000]

Refs are BS.

[ducks]

PISTONS O SUCKS !! SPURS O IS MUCH BETTER
PISTONS AND SPURS D=
SPURS WIN

HEAT D IS GOOD SPURS D IS BETTER
HEAT's O is ok with a healthy wade SPURS O IS BETTER

SUNS ARE A BETTER TEAM THEN THE HEAT RIGHT NOW

[ducks]

oh where is the pistons o great larry brown!

[KC SpUr]

we will own either of these teams

[Tek_XX]

pistons coming back

[mavsfan1000]

PISTONS O SUCKS !! SPURS O IS MUCH BETTER
PISTONS AND SPURS D=
SPURS WIN

HEAT D IS GOOD SPURS D IS BETTER
HEAT's O is ok with a healthy wade SPURS O IS BETTER

SUNS ARE A BETTER TEAM THEN THE HEAT RIGHT NOW
The Heat are playing against the best defense in the league. The Heat are the best offense in the league and they play good defense. The spurs could be in big trouble.

[Duff McCartney]

The Heat are playing the best defense in the league? Are you kidding me?

[KC SpUr]

The Heat are playing the best defense in the league? Are you kidding me?
consider the source. :lol

[ducks]

heat are not the best o even with everyone heathly

[mavsfan1000]

consider the source. :lol
Pistons

[mavsfan1000]

FG percentage
Heat #1
Suns #2

[wildbill2u]

Coming online late. Anyone ever post the score here?

[myhc]

^^nope. But tied right now at 74 with 4 mins left

[exstatic]

Wade looked like he was really hurting after that last play.

74, all, with 4 minutes left.

[myhc]

Uh oh. Wade is out of the game now. :depressed

[ducks]

Go Heat

[KC SpUr]

fg % makes them the best O?

[ducks]

FG percentage
Heat #1
Suns #2


with a healthy shaq and wade :angel

[myhc]

For all the crap Shaq gets for his free throw shooting, he does come though in the clutch.

[1Parker1]

Man, both teams will barely score 80! There's 500 vbookie I'll never see again....:(

[ducks]

3:19 MIA - D. Wade enters game for R. Butler

[ducks]

Man, both teams will barely score 80! There's 500 vbookie I'll never see again....:(

pistons and heat suck on o

[milkyway21]

this is not the way a champ team supposed to play!:huh
a healthy team vs an injured Wade & Shaq(?)?

Hey Mr. Brown...........

[wildbill2u]

Just checked out the chatroom. Nobody there. Why doesn't anyone use it for game commentary? This is so cumbersome

[1Parker1]

For all the crap Shaq gets for his free throw shooting, he does come though in the clutch.

:lol You spoke too soon. He split them the next time around...79-78, Heat

[milkyway21]

pistons and heat suck on o
and i am happy Pops focused on the Spurs' offense during thr Spurs' break.
:rolleyes

[ducks]

they might score 165 total

[RashoFan]

^ don't know...makes sense though ...right?

[midgetonadonkey]

Wade is choking. He needs to save his team.

[Tek_XX]

wtf was the quick shot for???

[RashoFan]

come on Miami...

[wildbill2u]

Score? Time left? Give some info to a guy with no cable.

[RashoFan]

Jump ball....damn

[Tek_XX]

it's slipping away from the Heat.

[baseline bum]

82-79 Detroit... 54 seconds left, Miami ball

[ducks]

heat should run play for shaq to dunk it

[RashoFan]

17 sec....82 det 79 miami

[KC SpUr]

stfu billups

[1Parker1]

hmmmm....looks like its Pistons vs. Spurs. That's a shame, I would have liked to see how the series would have played out with a healthy Dwayne Wade.

[Tek_XX]

omg missed free throw

[B.AlMighty]

Sorry, but looks like Detroit has it.

[Dex]

Did the ref just run into Billups and then call it a foul on the Pistons?

[cqsallie]

Coming in late - been on the Detroit Free-Press. I'm beginning to believe the Pistons where the refs are concerned. I really want Detroit to knock off Miami, so nobobdy will have anything to gripe about when we win the whole damn thing!

[RashoFan]

would have loved to see a healthy D Wade play the Spurs

[Duff McCartney]

Looks like it'll be the Pistons.

[ducks]

a piston could miss on if not both he has tonight already

[myhc]

Pistons, unless something crazy happens at the end. It's gonna be a war no doubt.

[Dre_7]

Crap! I wanted the easier road. Oh well, Spurs have played tough opponants(sp?) through-out the playoffs. I have faith in my team!!!

Finals this Thurs.

GO SPURS!!!!!!!!

[ducks]

I guess spurs might end up playing a HEALTHY TEAM

PISTONS WILL BE LUCKY TO WIN 2 GAMES

[RashoFan]

15 sec.....84 det 80 miami

[cqsallie]

Score? Time left? Give some info to a guy with no cable.
15.5 secs, Detroit up by 4...

[milkyway21]

who sez the Spurs'-Nets 2003 match-up was boring?

tonight's drought is even more.
not lot of shotblocks & rbds. they just can't put into the hole........:D

paging Stern (Lakers vs Lakers, the best finals Match-up fan)

:sleep :sleep :sleep

[E20]

Looks like Detroit is gonna seal this one up.

[RashoFan]

is it me or is Prince...anorexic?

[ducks]

:11.6 MIA - Personal foul on D. Jones
:12.6 MIA - S. O'Neal makes shot. Assist: D. Wade
:15.5 MIA - S. Smith enters game for A. Mourning

[ducks]

84-82

[1Parker1]

Wow, Heat are tough. If D Wade was healthy and Shaq, they could have beaten the Pistons, I think.

[atlfan25]

dtown w/ tha W

[ducks]

:11.6 DET - C. Billups hits the second free throw
:11.6 DET - L. Hunter enters game for B. Wallace
:11.6 MIA - R. Butler enters game for S. Smith
:11.6 DET - C. Billups hits the first free throw

[RashoFan]

Let the fans in Det celebrate now...in the end they will be crying.......

[ducks]

:02.9 DET - T. Prince defensive rebound
:04.9 MIA - D. Wade misses a 25-foot three-pointer from the top of the arc

[Tek_XX]

poor David Stern, good luck selling this final

[adidas11]

Free throws win the game.

I will say this, the past two champions are making the 2000-2002 Lakers looking damn good! LOL

[1Parker1]

88-82 FINAL. Looks like it's SPURS VS PISTONS

[Hook Dem]

Spurs & Pistons.......yeah baby!

[cqsallie]

C'est tout fini, mes amis!!!!
Here come the Pistons. Go! Spurs! Go!
Can't say I'm sad that Miami couldn't get it done.
But think of this, if Miami had been able to pull it out and then the Spurs beat the crap out of them, we'd hear nothing but whining and complaining about Shaq's deep thigh injury and Dwayne's rib injury.
This way, Miami can complain that Detroit beat them for the above reasons, but they'll be fishing when the Spurs beat the Pistons for the title.
Just what I wanted!!!!!

[adidas11]

And what's even funnier Foofida, is that the national media would be correct.

[ducks]

Atleast The Heat Coach Does Not Make Excuses
Hopefully Shaq Will Not

[RashoFan]

True...and if we would have played Miami in the finals...media would have said we won because of the injuries on Shaq and D Wade....

[boutons]

"Shaq and Wade weren't at 100%."

That's not totally false, but Pistons had the poise, made the shots and FTs in crunch time, while the Heat blew their crunch time with TO, bad shots, missed FTs.

These Heat played just like it was the their first ever Game7 for EC championship. They're just paying their dues.

[mavsfan1000]

I jinxed Miami. :lol :rollin :lmao

[Tek_XX]

They might be correct about Wade being hurt, but shaq is about as good as he gets at this stage of his career.

[ididnotnothat]

Props to the Pistons for playing like champions.

[ducks]

Heat Lose Game 6 Because They Missed Wade's End Of The Clock Managament

[KC SpUr]

C'est tout fini, mes amis!!!!
Here come the Pistons. Go! Spurs! Go!
Can't say I'm sad that Miami couldn't get it done.
But think of this, if Miami had been able to pull it out and then the Spurs beat the crap out of them, we'd hear nothing but whining and complaining about Shaq's deep thigh injury and Dwayne's rib injury.
This way, Miami can complain that Detroit beat them for the above reasons, but they'll be fishing when the Spurs beat the Pistons for the title.
Just what I wanted!!!!!
exactly...no excuses

[atlfan25]

injuries are part of the game, thats the way it goes. no excuses.

[ducks]

Props to the Pistons for playing like champions.


PLAYING LIKE CHAMPS
THEY PLAYED LIKE CRAP

THEY BARLEY GOT BY PACERS BARELY GOT BY THE HEAT WITH NOONE HEALTHY

[E20]

LMAO@ Ducks hatred towards Larry Brown.

[Tek_XX]

TNT guys look sad.

[cqsallie]

What sucks is that the national media will be saying that Detroit won because Shaq and Wade weren't at 100%.
You gotit foo! That's why it's cool that the Spurs don't have to listen to that line of horse radish, eh?
Now we can start the stomach-churning, nail-biting, heebie-jeebies. Oooohhhh! Can't wait for Thursday! :elephant

[mavsfan1000]

I said Miami was going to win but I am really glad Detroit won. I don't care who wins in the finals anymore. The spurs were the backbone to stop the heat but it looks like Detroit did it.

[Vashner]

Damn now Will Smith can't break out Miami.. I guess he may have to do a short cut of it.

[E20]

Props to Steve Kerr.
He predicted Detroit in 7.

[milkyway21]

Let the fans in Det celebrate now...in the end they will be crying.......i hope they can take that vs. Spurs... no coke throwing on the Spurs and all that if that happens.

though i want the Duncan's Spurs to face Shaq in the finals to get revenge, glad we face Detroit. at least Pops knows :D a lot of Brown's plays than Van Gundy's

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I think that the lob play to shaq has to go down as the stupidest call in coaching history, a three and you can tie the game reguardless of free throws.

[mavsfan1000]

Go Detroit!

[milkyway21]

PLAYING LIKE CHAMPS
THEY PLAYED LIKE CRAP

THEY BARLEY GOT BY PACERS BARELY GOT BY THE HEAT WITH NOONE HEALTHY

the Pistons were a LOT better team in 2004 than tonight & in the last 2 series... :fro right, Ben?

[E20]

Pops knows a lot of Brown's plays than Van Gundy's
Likewise. Maybe even more on Brown's part.

[milkyway21]

the Spurs are 2-0 in the finals appearance.......

:angel are we gonna be on 3-0 record this year?

SPURS VS. PISTONS

[Tek_XX]

Well we know one play, billups will be posting up parker.

[FearDaFro]

WHat do I keep telling you guys?

Don't EVER understimate the heart of a champion!

[milkyway21]

Likewise. Maybe even more on Brown's part.

Pops does not pattern his plays only from Brown's :rolleyes .


"That's the good thing," forward Robert Horry said. "The bad thing is Pop throwing in about 50 other plays and confusing you."

okay, this final match-up is actually a battle bet. these two great coaches..
let's see.

[E20]

I'm just saying Pop was Brown's student and Larry should know better what kind of coach Pop is than Pop knowing how Larry coaches. From the things I read these guys spend a lot of time together.

[milkyway21]

Shaq plays with 27 pts; 9 rbds and an "ELBOW":D to a LOSING CAUSE....

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/basketball/nba/img8540278.jpg

so long ShaQ. Sorry Wade:cry