Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Didn't see this anywhere

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/04/17/2011-04-17_republican_official_in_california_didnt_think_o bama_as_chimp_email_was_racist.html



A California (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/California) Republican party official who sent out an e-mail of President Obama (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Barack+Obama)'s face super-imposed onto a chimp says she's sorry, but insists she wasn't trying to be racist.

Marilyn Davenport (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Marilyn+Davenport), an elected member of the Orange County (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Orange+County) Republican central committee, sent the e-mail on Friday. The "family photo" features the commander-in-chief as a baby chimpanzee with two chimp parents.
Along with the offensive image was the tagline "Now you know why -- No birth certificate."

The supposed gag refers to the belief by so-called "birthers," who insist - even after the White House (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/The+White+House) released a digitally scanned image of his Hawaii (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Hawaii) birth certificate in 2008 - that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/United+States) and is ineligible to be president.

Davenport admitted to passing it around to her "friends and acquaintances," reported the Orange County Weekly (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/04/racist_orange_county_republica.php).

The Tea Party activist then offered up a half-hearted apology.

"I'm sorry if my email offended anyone," she wrote, according to the OC Weekly. "I simply found it amusing regarding the character of Obama and all the questions surrounding his origin of birth."

Davenport wrote she hadn't considered that Obama is "half black."

"In fact, the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people tried to make this about race," she wrote.

The GOP (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/U.S.+Republican+Party) committeewoman then blamed the "media" for trying to make a big deal out of the racist e-mail, insisting that the "average person knows and agrees is much ado about nothing."

Davenport has since sought to hunt down the "cowardly" person who leaked the e-mail, said Republican Party of Orange County chairman Scott Baugh (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Scott+Baugh), who was one of the original people who received the "highly inappropriate" Obama e-mail.

"It's a despicable message, it drips with racism and I think she should step down from the committee," he said.

Davenport, however, has already refused to quit.

"I will NOT resign my central committee position over this matter," she wrote to the OC Weekly.

"I have never seen anything like this before from an elected official," Michael Schroeder (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Michael+Schroeder), former chairman of the California GOP Party (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/California+GOP+Party), told CBS 2 News in Los Angeles (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/04/15/orange-county-republican-party-member-circulates-racist-e-mail-targeted-at-president-obama/). "It's stunning."

He noted that in 2009 the former Republican mayor of Los Alamitos (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Los+Alamitos), Dean Grose (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Dean+Grose), e-mailed a photo showing a watermelon patch in front of the White House last year, Davenport defended him. She also backed former Newport Beach City Councilman Dick Nichols (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Dick+Nichols) for making an offensive remark about Mexicans.

"She has managed to top both of those incidents by comparing African Americans to monkeys," Schroeder told the OC Weekly on Saturday. "She has disgraced herself and needs to resign."

In March 2010, Tennessee Hospitality Association (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Tennessee+Hospitality+Association) CEO Walt Baker (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Walt+Baker) was fired after forwarding a joke via e-mail equating First Lady Michelle Obama (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Michelle+Obama) to Cheeta, Tarzan's chimpanzee sidekick.

[Oh, Gee!!]

"Oh, come on! Everybody who knows me knows that I am not a racist. It was a joke. I have friends who are black. Besides, I only sent it to a few people--mostly people I didn't think would be upset by it."

:lol



link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/16/marilyn-davenports-racist_n_850063.html

[Parker2112]

congrats on buying in/spouting off about bullshit soap-opera style drama surrounding a false left-right paradigm while our country gets led into the noose. While you sheep follow these force-fed meaningless/mindless stories meant to distract and keep your eyes off the thieves stealing from you and yours, the futures of future generations are going up in flames.

again. congrats :depressed

[Bartleby]

congrats on buying in/spouting off about bullshit soap-opera style drama surrounding a false left-right paradigm while our country gets led into the noose. While you sheep follow these force-fed meaningless/mindless stories meant to distract and keep your eyes off the thieves stealing from you and yours, the futures of future generations are going up in flames.

again. congrats :depressed

Way to and steer clear of all the bullshit soap-opera style drama.

:toast

[ploto]

"I'm sorry if my email offended anyone,"

This is not an apology.

[The Reckoning]

wow bunch of fucking hypocrites. i guess i could be described as "independent" which allows me to point out the blatant hypocrasy of everyone comparing bush to chimps. is that racist too? gtfo everyone.

[ChumpDumper]

A California Republican party official who sent out an e-mail of President Obama's face super-imposed onto a chimp says she's sorry, but insists she wasn't trying to be racist.No, you didn't even have to try.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs, the repugnant party of the old, white, country-club, wealthy, racist Have-It-Alls, the party of all Human-Americans.

As dubya said to the NAACP: "We value the black VOTE" (but value black people? ...)

[DarrinS]

This would never happen to a white POTUS, like Bush.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Tea Potty!

[jack sommerset]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/267535/thumbs/s-MARILYN-DAVENPORT-RACIST-EMAIL-large300.jpg

http://www.aquilaarts.com/bushmonkey.jpg

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/267535/thumbs/s-MARILYN-DAVENPORT-RACIST-EMAIL-large300.jpg

http://www.aquilaarts.com/bushmonkey.jpg

so what's your point dummy?


hey mcfly, how many of the photos that you posted were sent by a US Congressman?


get back to us on that...

[Drachen]

who fucking cares about this.

[boutons_deux]

dubya was/is ridiculed as ignorant, stupid, affirmative-action-exploiter, fils-pourri, failed, born-on-third-base asshole and murderer.

Barry is trashed because he's an educated, accomplished, articulate, uppity nigga, aka, the un-bubba.

[Wild Cobra]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/267535/thumbs/s-MARILYN-DAVENPORT-RACIST-EMAIL-large300.jpg

http://www.aquilaarts.com/bushmonkey.jpg
I didn't know president Bush was black...

[Wild Cobra]

who fucking cares about this.
Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!

Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.

[TeyshaBlue]

so what's your point dummy?


hey mcfly, how many of the photos that you posted were sent by a US Congressman?


get back to us on that...

It's only racist if sent by a senator?:monkey

[George Gervin's Afro]

It's only racist if sent by a senator?:monkey

dang it... didn't read the article corrrectly..she was not a congresswoman... so either way making bush or oabama into a monkey is stupid.. but it is common knowledge that racists from the past compared black folks to monkeys...

[Wild Cobra]

dang it... didn't read the article corrrectly..she was not a congresswoman... so either way making bush or oabama into a monkey is stupid.. but it is common knowledge that racists from the past compared black folks to monkeys...

Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?

[TeyshaBlue]

Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?

GGA is not a racist. GFY.

[Wild Cobra]

GGA is not a racist. GFY.
Maybe not, but I will call using the race card that anyway.

[clambake]

she sent a written apology.......on a watermelon.

[CuckingFunt]

Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?

Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.

And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.

And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.

nuances..

[Wild Cobra]

Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.

And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.
OK...

I guess using the race card on unproven perceived racism is just to be called terrible stupid.

[CuckingFunt]

OK...

I guess using the race card on unproven perceived racism is just to be called terrible stupid.

No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.

Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.

Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.

Keep in mind WC wants to shoot illegals as they cross the border..

[Wild Cobra]

No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.

Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.
Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.

I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?

Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.

We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?

[Wild Cobra]

Keep in mind WC wants to shoot illegals as they cross the border..
It's a more worthy war to fight than the war on drugs.

[clambake]

pretty funny how wc feels compelled to defend obvious racism.

[Wild Cobra]

pretty funny how wc feels compelled to defend obvious racism.
My point is that it isn't obvious racism to everyone. Perceived does not mean it is. How many TV shows have monkeys been used in without any racial content?

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[clambake]

and yet he still defends it. you needn't bother. your pretentious attempt to, is embarrassing.

[CuckingFunt]

Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.

I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?

Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.

We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?

Firstly, ignorance isn't an excuse.

Secondly, you don't have to have grown up in the south or around a large population of black people to know the history of racism in this country. It's not as if the countless documents/cartoons/etc. that made this comparison were secret and/or unique to certain communities.

Thirdly, even if we were to go along with your hypothetical (and frankly baseless) suggestion that she was completely unaware of the historical precedents, do you honestly think that the circulation of images which dehumanize one's political opponent (or anyone else, for that matter) is an act worthy of defense?


My point is that it isn't obvious racism to everyone. Perceived does not mean it is. How many TV shows have monkeys been used in without any racial content?

I refuse to believe anyone can really be this stupid. Apes on their own aren't inherently racist. You'll notice that no one here is attacking zoos for their connection to ante- and postbellum ethnographic rhetoric.

[Creepn]

Thirdly, even if we were to go along with your hypothetical (and frankly baseless) suggestion that she was completely unaware of the historical precedents, do you honestly think that the circulation of images which dehumanize one's political opponent (or anyone else, for that matter) is an act worthy of defense?


That's a damn good question. I already know his answer.

"Racism is the outrage of that email picture, not the integrity of tactics one uses to fight the enemy. Since, we can't prove that she's being racist, that's what I'm defending against. I refuse to let a poor innocent citizen be assumed the worse just because the majority of Americans still wants to dabble in our dark history. CANT WE ALL MOVE ON PLEASE? Obviously this woman did and we should all learn from her!"

[MannyIsGod]

CF, he's really that stupid. Believe it.

[Oh, Gee!!]

who fucking cares about this.

the Orange County GOP leadership I presume, since they asked her to step down because of the e-mail.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!

Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.

what about this guy?


Republican Party of Orange County chairman Scott Baugh, who was one of the original people who received the "highly inappropriate" Obama e-mail.

"It's a despicable message, it drips with racism and I think she should step down from the committee," he said.

[ohmwrecker]

Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!

Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.

Bush isn't black, he's just dumb.

[ChumpDumper]

Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?Why can't you let a black person perform surgery on you?

[z0sa]

I find chimps to be extremely funny, mainly because of their mixture of cognizant learning abilities and animal instincts.

Superimpose pictures of chimps upon people, of any race anywhere, and they quickly lose their splendid humorous characteristics. That Republican official may not think she's racist, but she should definitely know her taste in humor is not only questionable politically but from a humor standpoint, as well.

I mean, seriously, what is supposed to be funny about the pictures?

[FromWayDowntown]

Why can't you let a black person perform surgery on you?

Obviously, that's not obvious racism to everyone.

Besides, categorically distrusting the professional credentials of those of one particular race (but only those of that race) who toil in a field is not racism.

Obviously.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol

He's nothing if not predictable, good ole WC.

[mouse]

Where are all the Darwin supports?

[Spursmania]

:sleep

[ManuBalboa]

This thread is now about how cool monkeys are.
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[Def Rowe]

Why can't you be color blind like me.


I don't trust black surgeons.
:lmao

[ohmwrecker]

Obviously, that's not obvious racism to everyone.

Besides, categorically distrusting the professional credentials of those of one particular race (but only those of that race) who toil in a field is not racism.

Obviously.

I hope this is sarcasm . . .

[ChuckD]

White person as chimp = probably disrespectful and insulting

Black person as chimp = racist meme, hundreds of years old

[DMX7]

:lmao

According to that joker, blacks are the only real racists.

[mouse]

Politician post a funny Obama monkey picture it's racism.

SNL post the same picture it's comedy gold NBC's ratings go up.


Radio talk show host calls a bunch of black women playing basketball nappy ho's its racism and lost of Job.

Chris Rock says the same thing people laugh and he gets another contract on HBO.

How fucked up is the country?

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry you aren't funny, mouse.

[LnGrrrR]

Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.

I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?

Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.

We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?

It doesnt matter whether she was "trying" to be racist or not. It's how it's perceived.

If I use the n word with a white friend, and a black person hears it and gets offended, do you think I'd escape trouble because I wasn't truly tryingto offend them? That wouldn't fly.

Don't you have HR Departments where you work WC?

[Wild Cobra]

It doesnt matter whether she was "trying" to be racist or not. It's how it's perceived.

If I use the n word with a white friend, and a black person hears it and gets offended, do you think I'd escape trouble because I wasn't truly tryingto offend them? That wouldn't fly.

Don't you have HR Departments where you work WC?
No, perception is not a qualifier for intent. I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd. Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.

[mouse]

Sorry you aren't funny, mouse.


Trust me there is enough comedy around here watching you backpedal everyday.

By you thinking I was trying to be funny explains why you never get the points I make.

[ChumpDumper]

It was just a general observation, mouse.

Sorry you are so sensitive.

lol points you make

[mouse]

It was just a general observation, mouse.

Kinda like your 9/11 observations?

one sided and impossible conclusions.




Sorry you are so sensitive.

I take my comedy serious.



lol points you make

I tell it like it is and have yet to see anyone debunk my knowledge.

[clambake]

No, perception is not a qualifier for intent.
in many cases.....it is. like this one.

I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd.
are you truly this stupid?

Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.
workplace is absolute reality. but thanks for admitting this had hostile intent.

[ChumpDumper]

Kinda like your 9/11 observations?

one sided and impossible conclusions.Your not being funny is quite within the realm of possibility.


I take my comedy serious.More's the pity.


I tell it like it is and have yet to see anyone debunk my knowledge.Sorry you can't see that when it happens too. It's not an uncommon event.

[LnGrrrR]

No, perception is not a qualifier for intent. I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd. Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.

So who determines intent? Because if you say "the person making the comment" then everyone will claim non-racism.

Don't you think she might have intended racism, and is lying about it now? Can you prove 100% that she's not racist?

[clambake]

he already admitted it was hostile.

[mouse]

Your not being funny is quite within the realm of possibility.

You will know when I am joking your sides will be hurting from laughter.


More's the pity.

^ Mr. T joke here but I am better than that.




Sorry you can't see that when it happens too. It's not an uncommon event.

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

[Wild Cobra]

So who determines intent? Because if you say "the person making the comment" then everyone will claim non-racism.

Don't you think she might have intended racism, and is lying about it now? Can you prove 100% that she's not racist?
What nation do you hail from? Cuba? Guilty till proven innocent?

[LnGrrrR]

What nation do you hail from? Cuba? Guilty till proven innocent?

:lmao

WC, you're the first to assign possibly bad motives to any Democrat who says anything. Give me a break.

[LnGrrrR]

She's either racist or an idiot. Take your pick.

[CuckingFunt]

She's either racist or an idiot. Take your pick.

I think there's a third possibility...

[clambake]

actually, she's both.

[clambake]

CF has a quicker mouse button

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao

WC, you're the first to assign possibly bad motives to any Democrat who says anything. Give me a break.
Not always. You know it.

So... Tit-for-tat? Two wrongs make a right? Is that your philosophy?

[LnGrrrR]

Not always. You know it.

So... Tit-for-tat? Two wrongs make a right? Is that your philosophy?

Where are you from, Cuba? Am I now guilty before innocent? You cant prove 100% what the intent of my post was. Keep an open mind.

[ChumpDumper]

You will know when I am joking your sides will be hurting from laughter.Hasn't happened yet. Have you never tried to be funny on these boards?


^ Mr. T joke here but I am better than that.You aren't.


So what do you think really happened on 9/11?Asked and answered.

Several times.

You never answered the same question.

How funny.