Gov. Perry yesterday: "Prey for rain"

[DMX7]

So did anybody prey for rain to slow down the wildfires yesterday? Looks like it really worked. It's goddamn 95 degrees outside and it's not even summer.

[clambake]

i'm sure its raining somewhere. prayers should be really specific.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Prey? Not much of a trophy.

[CosmicCowboy]

Laughing at ignorant stupid mother fucking DMX7 that can't even master the spelling of simple 4 letter words.

[4>0rings]

:lmao

[Nbadan]

maybe he was preying for another coyote

[Nbadan]

....see kids, climate change denial is fun!

[CosmicCowboy]

....see kids, climate change denial is fun!

Dan, droughts and fires happen in Texas. See the late 1950's bitch.

[z0sa]

You didn't prey hard enough.

[MannyIsGod]

....see kids, climate change denial is fun!

Ignorant motherfuckers like you attributing ever event to climate change do far more harm than good regarding public acceptance of climate change.

[ManuBalboa]

Wow, apparently there is a worldwide drought going on. 2012 Prophecy continues to gain steam.

[Nbadan]

Ignorant motherfuckers like you attributing ever event to climate change do far more harm than good regarding public acceptance of climate change.

:rolleyes

It's not like I'm trying to say that climate change is bunk because it's snowing in winter...there is clearly a pattern of less snow and less fresh runoff water in Western States...and other parts of the Word....

[MannyIsGod]

How much snow pack does West Texas have?!?!?!??!

Its fucking arid shrub land out there. Droughts happen. Bringing up climate change is fucking foolish and completely unsubstantiated.

For the record, you're also wrong about less snow in the winter. There's actually more.

[MannyIsGod]

Droughts happen.

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/ybd01

[MannyIsGod]

Anyone with a modest understanding of South Western US climatology will point to the latest ENSO cycle we've gone through before any form of climate change. La Nina winters are drier in the southwest and they're also warmer.

The words Climate Change don't belong anywhere near a discussion of this situation.

[Nbadan]

How much snow pack does West Texas have?!?!?!??!

Its fucking arid shrub land out there. Droughts happen. Bringing up climate change is fucking foolish and completely unsubstantiated.

For the record, you're also wrong about less snow in the winter. There's actually more.

Droughts happen, but the severity of these droughts can be directly affected by climate change.....

...and I was talking about snowfall in Western Mountain states which rely on snowpack for irrigation and public use...

[MannyIsGod]

Oh I can see why you bring up Colorado and Utah snowpack in a discussion of West Texas.

You always do this shit Dan. This is like when you tied to use hurricane projections from a climate change study in 2050 to justify increased hurricane activity. There is nothing to substantiate that the level of climate change we've seen up to now has ANYTHING to do with this specific drought at all. Like I said, ignorant people like you love to spout off with the climate change meme but it does absolutely no good and a lot of harm.

Climate Change belongs nowhere near this discussion.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/maf/?n=research_lanina

[Nbadan]

It will belong in this discussion until rain returns to West Texas, especially with La Nina weakening for the third straight month...

[Nbadan]

...by the way, Steve Brown is doing a special on KSAT12 right now on extreme weather for those of you interested...

[MannyIsGod]

So once rain returns climate change isn't in effect?

:lmao

You're such a tool on this subject. Just STFU.

[DMX7]

That word is foreign to me. :lol

[ploto]

Everyone knows we will have drought until it floods in September.

[MannyIsGod]

Everyone knows we will have drought until it floods in September.

Actually fairly true. Either you'll get a good soaking in May/June or it'll be bone dry until the fall. Droughts in South Texas (not so much West Texas) end with floods a lot of the time.

Feast or Famine.

[greyforest]

http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/RadarLoop/sat_None_anim.gif

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nxssa_r1_h_500x620d/r1h/inxr1KSATa_h.gif

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nx_mosaic_640x480_public/sir/inmasirmr_sat.gif

[Nbadan]

So once rain returns climate change isn't in effect?

:lmao

You're such a tool on this subject. Just STFU.

Right.....this has nothing to do with the shifting polar winds due to global climate change, but everything to do with a weakening La Nina....who's the tool again?

[MannyIsGod]

The tool is the person claiming "polar winds" are shifting due to climate change with no studies to back it up. You arguing with me on climate and weather is like me arguing with you on how to be a moron: I don't try to act like I know more about your specialty.

If you have academic studies showing that the west Texas drought has anything to do with "polar wind shifts" by all means post them.

[Nbadan]

like me arguing with you on how to be a moron:

You win.

There is absolutely zero proof that la Nina is causing the drought..

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, none.


Results

Evaluation of the data sets used in this study does indeed show an overall decrease in precipitation for La Niña years. Figures 1-3 display a comparison of the seasonal averages with the seasonal precipitation totals for each of the moderate to strong La niña events. Table 2 displays the precipitation totals and percentages of normal for moderate to strong La Niña events while Table 3 shows identical information for weak La Niña events. When combining both the weak (Table 3) and moderate to strong (Table 2) La Niña events it was found that 23 out of the 33 seasons (70%) had below normal precipitation. On average, precipitation received during any one of the three seasons was 69-80% of normal when normals computed with all the years inclusive of this study were used. Interestingly enough, during the spring season (MAM) of both weak and moderate to strong La Niña events, 9 out of the 11 spring seasons (82%) had below normal precipitation. With an average of just below 70% of normal precipitation, the spring season showed the greatest decrease in precipitation out of all three seasons studied.
A comparison of the seasons used in this study shows that winter (DJF) holds the greatest variability in rainfall received. This would not be totally unexpected since the average precipitation was the least for the winter and the distribution of the observations would be further from a normal distribution that the other two seasons involved in this study. Winter percent of normals ranged from a high of 315% in 1938 to a low of 5% in 1970. Besides the high of 315% in 1938, precipitation received in any one of the seasons during all the La Niña years was greater than 141% of normal only one other time.

The results of this study demonstrate that La Niña has distinct effects on Midland, Texas precipitation. Overall, the moderate to strong La Niña events (Tables 2) showed a greater likelihood to be below normal (75% of normal) for all three seasons when compared to the weak La Niña events (87% of normal).



Conclusions

Analyses of past La Niña studies and past precipitation records for Texas and the southern plains show there has been a negative effect (decrease) on precipitation totals during most La Niña years. From this study, the most decisive finding is that the precipitation totals in any given season for a La Niña year are likely to be below normal. The autumn and spring seasons are more likely than the winter season to have below normal precipitation with the spring season being the most likely. However, in rare cases, precipitation totals may exceed 315% of normal during a La Niña episode.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/maf/?n=research_lanina

[MannyIsGod]

The worst drought in 45 years has turned the state of Texas into a tinderbox, the scene of more than 5,300 wildfires so far this year.

The drought is being aided by moderate to strong La Nina conditions this winter, according to a report on climatecentral.org. More than 1 million acres have burned, with few signs of rain to bring relief.

http://wap.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/texas-wildfires-climatecentral_2011-04-20

Nope, none.

[MannyIsGod]

La Niña conditions, which are characterized by cooler than average conditions in the eastern equatorial tropical Pacific Ocean, are associated with drier than average conditions in the southern tier of the U.S., including Texas. While this does not hold true during every La Niña year, it has played out this year, as storms bypassed the southern tier of the country.

“The moderate to strong La Niña event of 2010/2011 is certainly one of the primary factors in the dryness across Texas. Normal day to day weather swings and serendipity play a lesser role, but current studies tell us that on average Texas is more apt to receive below normal precipitation during La Niña winters,” Murphy says.

The drought followed a very wet summer and early fall, rounding out a boom and bust cycle of precipitation in the Lone Star State, which has provided plenty of dry vegetation to fuel wildfires. From October 1, 2010 to March 31, 2011, Texas received just 5.07 inches of rainfall as a statewide average. This is 45 percent of the 100-year statewide average of 11.35 inches. March was Texas’ driest such month since records began in 1895.

Wish I could find some proof.

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/early-start-to-fire-season-as-wildfires-scorch-texas/

[MannyIsGod]

A quick look at some climate statistics for Midland, TX reveals that the forecast of warmer and drier conditions than normal for West Texas this past winter of 1998-1999 verified quite well. Specifically, meteorological winter (the months of December, January, and February) had high temperatures above normal nearly 70% of the time while the drought from last year continued into the new year with only 58% of the average precipitation occurring in these winter months.

Maybe SOMEONE in the meteorological community believes La Nina is a huge factor in this. MAYBE.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/maf/?n=research_ensoreview

[MannyIsGod]

Although exact conclusions are always tricky, as is the case with large-scale weather patterns and long range forecasts, there are some trends that can be noted across the South Plains that are correlated with La Niña. In general, La Niña episodes favor below normal precipitation and above normal temperatures for the region. Below are some observations made from previous La Niña episodes as compiled by Lubbock Warning Coordination Meteorologist (WCM) Jody James. The information is broken down by the strength of the La Niña episode as defined in the table below. The Oceanic Niño Index (ONI) is defined as the 3-month running mean of sea surface temperature (SST) anomalies in the Niño 3.4 region (5oN-5oS, 120o-170oW).


From the above tables we can see that:

La Niña events favor a decrease in total precipitation at Lubbock, with strong to extreme episodes having a stronger signal.
There is a strong signal for a significant decrease in snowfall during La Niña episodes.
What does this all mean?

According to the current computer model forecasts it appears the ongoing La Niña episode will persist through this upcoming winter. Thus, there will be a greater than average chance that the South Plains region is drier and less snowy than normal this winter. The official long range forecast for the United States reflects this, and can be found at the Climate Prediction Center by CLICKING HERE.

The development of La Niña is also well correlated with warmer than normal conditions across the southern United States during the winter. The current long range forecast from the Climate Prediction Center for the South Plains calls for a high likelihood (50 percent or greater) of winter temperatures being above average.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/lub/?n=news-20101015-lanina

[clambake]

manny.......breathe....

[MannyIsGod]

Its not like anyone in NWS or NOAA saw this coming.

November's drought forcast.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/sdo_archive/2010/sdo_ndj1011.gif


Soil moisture that was plentiful across much of the southern Great Plains following the early September passage of Tropical Storm Hermine has dwindled as much drier weather has occurred the past 45 days. An exception to this has been extreme southern Texas where ample mid- to late September rains have maintained wetness. With the exception of heavy rains during the next 5-days (from HPC) in northern Texas and Oklahoma, all forecasts from the short to medium range through the seasonal outlook indicate enhanced chances of below-median precipitation and above-normal temperatures. And with the likelihood of little or no "bonus" tropical cyclone rains (such as from Hermine) in the western Gulf Coast due to decreased tropical cyclone formation and southward-displaced mid-latitude troughs that tend to recurve any tropical cyclones eastward away from the region, drought persistence is maintained in Oklahoma and northern and southwestern Texas. In addition, development was extended across most of south-central Texas, northern Texas and Oklahoma, and parts of eastern New Mexico where La Niña conditions are strongly associated with decreased precipitation and increased temperatures.
Forecast confidence for the southern Plains is moderate to high.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/sdo_archive/2010/sdo_ndj1011_text.shtml

:lmao

Ok I'm done. I'm sure NBAfuckhead will come back and remind us that he's a great mathematician who makes great future forecasts with some mysterious models.

[lefty]

2+0+1+2

[TeyshaBlue]

Lol @ nbadan getting his ass handed to him again.:lol

Manny's meteorlogical brainpan ftw.

[Drachen]

2+0+1+2

5????

Oh are you referring to the prophecy that the end of days is in May??

[boutons_deux]

Perry, obviously a deeply religious, good-faith, honest, empathetic man (all politicians are) pandering to the TX Bible-thumping bubbas and sheeple.

[Nbadan]

I never believed the rumors, Manny is a over-educated ass-hat...Why is Manny showing maps from 2010? ...because El Nina has been easing for the last three months..the rains in west TX...not so much

...I also never said that El Nina does not a effect on the drought in West TX, what I said is that we may also be seeing the effects of global climate change at work here....even many of Manny's weather geek friends have no idea what causes a La Nina or even how to predict a La Nina year.....evidence the lack of long-term predictions of for a La Nina forecast this spring and summer....

....like always, Manny blew his load to early....probably why he has no GF and spends so much of his time defending pseudo-science like weather prediction..

[Nbadan]

Lol @ nbadan getting his ass handed to him again.:lol

Manny's meteorlogical brainpan ftw.

:lol

at TB sucking Manny's cock...

[ChumpDumper]

....like always, Manny blew his load to early....probably why he has no GF and spends so much of his time defending pseudo-science like weather prediction..Really, dan?

[Nbadan]

Really, dan?

what?

Weather prediction is a pseudo-science...the rest is true..

[z0sa]

:lol this thread delivers the lulz

[Nbadan]

:lol this thread delivers the lulz

...get a rope...

[MannyIsGod]

TBH knowing when you lost is a good way to earn props around here. It would be a useful skill for NBADan to master.

Yes, (oh and LOL @ El Nina) La Nina has been easing and will likely transition into a neutral phase in the coming months and perhaps even back into an El Nino phase later this year.

That doesn't change the fact that La Nina is the primary climatological reason for the drought.

Just admit you're wrong, Dan. Jeez.

[MannyIsGod]

I really should work on getting a gf. Maybe I can start looking for one on Spurstalk.

This girl looks pretty cool!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=459

[MannyIsGod]

You win.

There is absolutely zero proof that la Nina is causing the drought..



...I also never said that El Nina does not a effect on the drought in West TX,


:lmao

Furthermore, ENSO predictions are quite good. NBADan arguing that we don't know what causes it or how it forms is pretty laughable.

Dude's gonna end up in China by tomorrow at the rate he's digging.

[Nbadan]

TBH knowing when you lost is a good way to earn props around here. It would be a useful skill for NBADan to master.

What? So TBH is never wrong?


:lol

[Nbadan]

That doesn't change the fact that La Nina is the primary climatological reason for the drought.

Only time will tell....but West TX does not avg much yearly rainfall in a normal year....

...my feeling is we are witnessing both the effects of La Nina around the equator and shifting polar wind in the northern hemisphere because of melting polar cap...

[Nbadan]

I really should work on getting a gf. Maybe I can start looking for one on Spurstalk.

This girl looks pretty cool!

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=459


Why haven't you married that?

[Nbadan]

2+0+1+2

unless your a meteorologists apparently...

...then its 2, if it indeed 2, and 0, assuming this is a 0 type occurance, 1, if we are feeling the full effects of 1, and 2, as long as 2 lasts long enough....is 2012...but not always....

...what a joke....

[Nbadan]

But La Niña isn't to blame for the recent severe weather affecting the Northeast. Winter weather for these regions is often driven not by La Niña but by large-scale weather patterns over the U.S., the northern Atlantic Ocean and the Arctic. These are often short-term, and are generally predictable only a week or so in advance. They are the culprits responsible for the dip in temperatures and spike in snow storms in the Midwest and Northeast.

In addition to extreme rainfall, La Niña can lead to drought conditions. Currently in East Africa, it has caused drier-than-usual weather, sparking food-security concerns in areas lacking irrigation, including parts of Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Tanzania. Parts of South America, Asia and the southern U.S. may also see lower rainfall for the first quarter of 2011.

Since 1950, the world has experienced six major La Niña events, wreaking havoc in countries around the world. In 2000, for example, floods associated with La Niña affected 400,000 people in southern Africa, caused at least 96 deaths and left 32,000 homeless.

La Niña conditions typically persist for 9 to 12 months, peaking sometime during the end of the year. But 2010 was a lively year for climate scientists: For the first four months of this year, El Niño conditions prevailed in the tropical Pacific, but that quickly changed, and by June, a La Niña pattern had emerged.

"Last year's transition from El Niño to La Niña was about the most sudden we've ever had," Barnston said. "When we had rapid flips like this in the past, we sometimes ended up having a two-year La Niña, such as right after the El Niño episodes of 1972 to 1973 and 1997 to 1998."

Barnston cautions that the likelihood of this happening with the current La Niña is unknown. "Even if we do have a second year of La Niña developing in northern summer 2011, we expect at least a brief return to neutral conditions from May to July of 2011."

Psyorg (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-climate-phenomenon-la-nina-blame.html)

Yes..... it's ALL la Nina as Manny said...



:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Since when is Texas in the Northeast? Are you really this fucking stupid? We're talking about a drought in Texas and you talk about snowstorms in the North East?

Good lord.

[MannyIsGod]

What? So TBH is never wrong?


:lol


So to be honest is never wrong?

What, the, fuck???

[MannyIsGod]

Only time will tell....but West TX does not avg much yearly rainfall in a normal year....

...my feeling is we are witnessing both the effects of La Nina around the equator and shifting polar wind in the northern hemisphere because of melting polar cap...

You're a fucking idiot. Thats my gut feeling. First it was all climate change now its maybe La Nina (props on at least getting the name right). My gut feeling tells me that you don't know anything about the subject and instead of just saying that and learning you choose to spew bullshit.

Who do you think you're fooling?

When NOAA issued a drought forecast for West Texas they didn't cite polar winds, melting ice caps, or any other bullshit you want to come up with. They cited the ENSO condition.

[Nbadan]

Since when is Texas in the Northeast? Are you really this fucking stupid? We're talking about a drought in Texas and you talk about snowstorms in the North East?

Good lord.

Right....so weather phenomena in the same hemisphere are completely unrelated....

[Nbadan]

When NOAA issued a drought forecast for West Texas they didn't cite polar winds, melting ice caps, or any other bullshit you want to come up with. They cited the ENSO condition.

Given that it didn't have any preconditions, I can see why...

[MannyIsGod]

Right....so weather phenomena in the same hemisphere are completely unrelated....

They can be, yes. La Nina doesn't impact the NE. AMO blocks don't eally impact the southwest. Every time you decide to post you just post something wrong. Do yourself a favor and stop.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol

at TB sucking Manny's cock...

I already had shrimp for dinner, fuckmonkey.

[johnsmith]

In all my time on the political forum of spurstalk.com, I don't think I've ever witnessed anyone getting their asses handed to them the way Dan is getting it in this thread.

Manny lit him up for two straight pages and Dan just keeps coming back for more, refusing to acknowledge the loss.

It's almost as sad as starting a thread with "gonna be a long thread" in the title and then making sure of it by posting in it on your own for three pages........almost.


I wonder if Dan and Boutons are pals in real life?

[hehateme]

Wow...just wow. You need to change your name from NBAdan to WNBAdan you whiny bitch. Now take your beatdown from this thread and step your game up for next time you try to take on a subject you know shit about.

[Nbadan]

:rolleyes


What causes El Nino & La Nina and how often do the occur?


Scientist don’t have an answer as to the cuase of El Nino’s and El Nina’s. But what is noticeable is the coincidental increase in the global warming phenomenon. Is this nurture or nature; with the increase of El Nino’s and the diminishing of La Nina’s, is human activities the cause of the increased El Nino’s? Or, are we just going through a normal long term warming trend that is caused by El nino? Scientists are busy gathering data and trying to put all the pieces of a very big puzzle into place. Also, depending on which side of the fence you sit on, there is no shortage of opinions.

El Nino’s occur approximately every 3 to 5 years and can last from 6 months 2 over 2 years. Conversely La Nina’s occur in between the El Nino years and don’t last as long. As mentioned earlier going into the future these numbers could change, and the trend is for more frequent and longer lasting El Ninos.

ENSO was such a great discovery for weather meteorologists in that they now can provide much more detailed and longer range weather forecasts.

Link (http://blog.friendlyforecast.com/what-is-el-nino-la-nina-weather-pattern-causes-effects-its-cycle/)

So, nobody knows why El Nino and La Nina are occurring with more or less frequency, except for Manny apparently...he has all the answers...

[Nbadan]

Wow...just wow. You need to change your name from NBAdan to WNBAdan you whiny bitch. Now take your beatdown from this thread and step your game up for next time you try to take on a subject you know shit about.

A maverick Troll? :lol

case closed.

[Nbadan]

They can be, yes. La Nina doesn't impact the NE.

:lol

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/us_impacts/precip_thresh.gif

[MannyIsGod]

:rolleyes





Link (http://blog.friendlyforecast.com/what-is-el-nino-la-nina-weather-pattern-causes-effects-its-cycle/)

So, nobody knows why El Nino and La Nina are occurring with more or less frequency, except for Manny apparently...he has all the answers...

You quote a place that can't even spell cause correctly. :lol

Actually - they can't even get the fucking names right. EL nina? WTF is that? You're right, we don't know the cause of El Ninas.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/general/enso_faq/




El Niño is an unusual warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean that occurs irregularly at about 3-6 year intervals in response to large scale weakenings of the trade winds that normally blow westward from South America toward Asia. Normally, the trade winds produce cool surface water in the eastern Pacific, through evaporation and the upwelling of colder water from below the surface. Simultaneously, they "corral" warm surface waters over in the far western Pacific. As the trade winds weaken, so does the containment of the warm water in the west and the maintenance of the coolness in the east. As a result, relatively warm water becomes ubiquitous all across the Pacific from New Guinea to South America. Although the immediate cause (wind weakening) is known and scientists have made much progress in understanding the phenomenon, the exact nature of the processes that govern its repetitive cycle are still not certain.

Thats from 2003, btw. We know more about it even now.


Why do El Niño and La Niña occur?

El Niño and La Niña are naturally occurring phenomena that result from interactions between the ocean surface and the atmosphere over the tropical Pacific. Changes in the ocean surface temperatures affect tropical rainfall patterns and atmospheric winds over the Pacific ocean, which in turn impact the ocean temperatures and currents. The El Nino and La Niña related patterns of tropical rainfall cause changes in the weather patterns around the globe.

Show me the tropical rainfall patterns for a strong El Niño and La Nina.

Show me areas typically affected by El Niño and La Nina.



http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ensofaq.shtml#WHY


Scientists from NOAA and other agencies use a variety of tools and techniques to monitor and forecast changes in the Pacific Ocean and the impact of those changes on global weather patterns. In the tropical Pacific Ocean, El Niño is detected by many methods, including satellites, moored buoys, drifting buoys, sea level analysis, and expendable buoys. Many of these ocean observing systems were part of the Tropical Ocean Global Atmosphere (TOGA) program, and are now evolving into an operational El Niño/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) observing system. NOAA also operates a research ship, the KA'IMIMOANA, which is dedicated to servicing the Tropical Ocean Atmosphere (TAO) bouy network component of the observing system.

Large computer models of the global ocean and atmosphere, such as those at NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Prediction, part of the National Weather Service, use data from the ENSO observing system as input to predict El Niño. Other models are used for El Nino research, such as those at NOAA's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory and other non-government research institutions.



What is the relationship between El Niño/La Niña and global warming?

The jury is still out on this. Are we likely to see more El Niño's because of global warming? Will they be more intense? These are questions facing the science community today. Research will help us separate the natural climate variability from any trends due to man's activities. If we cannot sort out what the natural variability does, then we cannot identify the "fingerprint" of global warming. We also need to look at the link between decadal changes in natural variability and global warming. At this time we cannot preclude the possibility of links but it is too early to say there is a definite link.

So the site you use that can't be bothered to spell cause correctly also has incorrect information about ENSO. I'm shocked. No really. Shocked.

The difference here is that I actually know about this stuff and I don't need to go to google to find information to post here. I know exactly where to look because I follow it.

Next time google better.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/us_impacts/precip_thresh.gif


You obviously don't know how to read those maps. The white that covers the NE? That means no change.


:lmao :lmao :lmao

Oh man, this is gold.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

You came back to this thread just to post from a site that can't be bothered to proofread its work and then you post a graphic that doesn't say what you think it says. Holy crap thats awesome.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/impacts/cold.gif

[MannyIsGod]

Do you see how the north east is completely white?

[Nbadan]

the SW.... INCLUDING TX is white too...nice try though..

[MannyIsGod]

Once again, you fail to read the damn maps correctly. If you'll look at the neutral mean, West Texas gets 0-2 days with over a half inch of rain in a normal year. Its pretty hard to get less than zero so of course its white.

Now, anyone with a brain (and LOL @ you having a math degree and not understanding this. I'll never believe you have a math degree from ITT Tech at this point) can understand why it can still rain less and still not see a difference in the number of days when it rains more than half an inch when that number is already zero.

[MannyIsGod]

By all means, keep coming back for more punishment.

[TeyshaBlue]

By all means, keep coming back for more punishment.

He can't help himself. He's pathologically incapable of being wrong.

[johnsmith]

This is quickly becoming my favorite thread ever.

[MannyIsGod]

Bump for Dan (and Johnsmith)

[Nbadan]

Once again, you fail to read the damn maps correctly. If you'll look at the neutral mean, West Texas gets 0-2 days with over a half inch of rain in a normal year. Its pretty hard to get less than zero so of course its white.

Oh spit me with your meteorological knowledge on mighty spiter...

This thread is long over-due for for a skit...

Scene: Woman goes to Dr. Manny the gyno...

Woman: Doctor, you've got to help he, my vagina is burning...

Dr. Manny: Has this happened before?

Woman: It used to happen every now and then but now it seems to be happening once a year..

Dr. Manny: Are there any other symptoms?

Woman: Well, I get patches of scaly dry skin and some of my hair falls out

Dr. Manny: Well, you've obviously got a skin condition and bad conditioner

Woman: A skin condition? Why would that make my vagina burn?

Dr. Manny: I don't know

Woman: Can I do anything to prevent my burning vagina?

Dr. Manny: I don't know

Woman: Can I do anything to stop the frequent occurrence of burning vagina?

Dr. Manny: I don't know

Woman: Will it get worse?

Dr. Manny: I don't know

Woman: Is there anything you do know about burning vagina?

Dr. Manny: I know it comes with patchy skin and falling hair...


Two years later the woman's vagina explodes...literally explodes....the family sues doctor Manny for not diagnosing the woman's condition...

Judge: Didn't the woman come and tell you here vagina was burning?

Dr. Manny: Yes

Judge: didn't she tell you that this condition was progressively getting more painful?

Dr. Manny: Yes

Judge: Didn't she tell you that this condition was progressively becoming more frequent?

Dr. Manny: Yes

Judge: What was your diagnoses, Dr. Manny?

Dr. Manny: We're still running test.

[TeyshaBlue]

As if on cue...the rambling non sequitur.

And it's "smite". :lmao

[Nbadan]

He can't help himself. He's pathologically incapable of being wrong.

hey, look, it's left nut

[Nbadan]

This is quickly becoming my favorite thread ever.

Hey, look, it's right nut...

[MannyIsGod]

He can't help himself. He's pathologically incapable of being wrong.

[TeyshaBlue]

hey, look, it's left nut

Hey look. You got a big bag of nothing again.

[johnsmith]

Dear Baby Jesus,

Please let Dan keep posting in this thread. For I have not had this much entertainment on spurstalk.com in so long. Lord hear my prayers.

[SnakeBoy]

La Nina has been easing and will likely transition into a neutral phase in the coming months and perhaps even back into an El Nino phase later this year.


Where did you see El Nino predicted? ENSO neutral by June (just in time for our normal hot & dry summer) is all I've seen.

[Nbadan]

Where did you see El Nino predicted? ENSO neutral by June (just in time for our normal hot & dry summer) is all I've seen.

Some projections I've seen are for La Nina to continue after the summer months, of course, it's all voo-doo science...its equally likely that El Nino will reappear after the summer....

In other words, they don't know shit.

[Nbadan]

Dear Baby Jesus,

Please let Dan keep posting in this thread. For I have not had this much entertainment on spurstalk.com in so long. Lord hear my prayers.


Have you tried looking at yourself naked in the mirror?

[Nbadan]

Hey look. You got a big bag of nothing again.

Manny's nutsack or a big bag of nothing...

....pass the bag..

[Nbadan]

What is the relationship between El Niño/La Niña and global warming?

From Manny's quotes...


The jury is still out on this. Are we likely to see more El Niño's because of global warming? Will they be more intense? These are questions facing the science community today. Research will help us separate the natural climate variability from any trends due to man's activities. If we cannot sort out what the natural variability does, then we cannot identify the "fingerprint" of global warming. We also need to look at the link between decadal changes in natural variability and global warming. At this time we cannot preclude the possibility of links

Manny can, he knows about this stuff.....

[MannyIsGod]

Snake,

Only a few models are predicting a weak El Nino later this year but there are some.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

Scroll down to the model plots.

[TeyshaBlue]

Manny's nutsack or a big bag of nothing...

....pass the bag..

You think about Manny's nutsack....alot.:lol

[MannyIsGod]

He's only human.

[DarrinS]

:rolleyes

It's not like I'm trying to say that climate change is bunk because it's snowing in winter...there is clearly a pattern of less snow and less fresh runoff water in Western States...and other parts of the Word....


lmao @ Manny spanking your ass and you being butthurt.

[johnsmith]

Have you tried looking at yourself naked in the mirror?

Ummm, how would that make me more entertained on spurstalk.com?

Even your insults are dumb.

[Nbadan]

The climate change denial in this thread is strong....exactly why our planet is dying...

Manny on the side of the resident wing-nuts, Classic.

[MannyIsGod]

Ha, you fail on reading comprehension just as much as you fail at everything else.


Ignorant motherfuckers like you attributing ever event to climate change do far more harm than good regarding public acceptance of climate change.

Thats me on page one. One who can read at a fifth grade level would understand that means I acknowledge climate change. My beef isn't with actual AGW theory - its with idiots like you Dan. You basically know nothing about the subject and run your mouth off and then do not accept that you are wrong and there are others who know much much more than you.

I'm on the side of anyone with the ability to view the facts. Thats not you. You've made that clear.

[Nbadan]

Pfff....maybe the real problem is you Manny...you refuse to accept that the earth is a living organism....everything on this earth is inter-related from the smallest wind-devil to the largest cyclone....your full of pride and arrogance...you accept AGW but deny even the smallest hint of change in the environment....you hide behind your 'preconditions' and 'trends'....if any other science did that, we'd all be dead today....it's no wonder whack-jobs like Darrin and JohnSmith have any credibility at all when it comes to posting about AGW, ...its because of pseudo-intellectuals like you who sit around and 'follow your trend lines' instead of taking a few minutes to seriously looking at the world around you and realizing that our planet is dying and man is the plague....your no better than Darrin.... and that's the bottom line.

Someday, you'll get your facts, and we'll all be dead.

[MannyIsGod]

mmmk

[ChumpDumper]

Now it's just getting weird.

[Nbadan]

Pfff... your late to the party...turned weird when Manny and Darrin came out on the same side on global climate change...IMO

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't read it that way.

[Nbadan]

I didn't read it that way.

You read?


Climatologists busy reading charts are just as guilty of doing nothing to help the environment as deniers....

[Spurminator]

Intellectually bankrupt dishonesty: It's the only way to get shit done.

[ChumpDumper]

You read?


Climatologists busy reading charts are just as guilty of doing nothing to help the environment as deniers....What are you doing to help?

[Nbadan]

No shit....look at Dubya....sucked, but got things done..

[Nbadan]

What are you doing to help?

blogging....Im too busy saving the poor...remember?

[Spurminator]

No shit....look at Dubya....sucked, but got things done..

So you're good with being a liar then?

[ChumpDumper]

blogging....Im too busy saving the poor...remember?No, I don't. What are you doing to save them?

[Nbadan]

So you're good with being a liar then?

Go ahead and stand on your soap box, but lies have always gotten shit done. Dubya lied to get us into Iraq, but half the population still thinks he's a hero, hmmm...aesops fables fails me....in fact, great change is this great big world has almost always been based on a lie, sometimes because we get stuck in lethargy, but other times because we lack the fortitude to do what is right...

[Nbadan]

No, I don't. What are you doing to save them?

Spreading Love.

[DMX7]

Half the population thinks Dub-Ya is a hero?

[ChumpDumper]

Spreading Love.So nothing, then.

[Nbadan]

Half the population thinks Dub-Ya is a hero?

the WC half.....miss him yet?

[Winehole23]

Intellectually bankrupt dishonesty: It's the only way to get shit done.I saw Dan emphasizing more of a spiritual orientation. If you grant that the "world" is "LIVING", the sure sign of election is not peer reviewed science, but rather adoption of an essentially esoteric, quasi-charismatic, tendential pantheism which somehow has become the new normal:


hippie-ish nature-worshiping

[Winehole23]

I'm pretty sure Dan wasn't referencing the Swedenborg-ian Great Man hypothesis, but maybe it would have been polite to ask. What think, Dan?

[Winehole23]

btw, you're doing it wrong, Spurminator.

[Winehole23]

:rollin

[MannyIsGod]

Climatologists busy reading charts are just as guilty of doing nothing to help the environment as deniers....

:lmao x 23409204824092804298409248028240948209248

The very people that bring up the issue are guilty of doing nothing because they're not liars like Dan.

Amazing.

[MannyIsGod]

blogging....Im too busy saving the poor...remember?

Link to your blog?