We've been telling you all year...

[benefactor]

...that this team is a bunch of phonies with fake game plan that would not hold up in the playoffs. All you guys could say is "60 wins!"

None of you believed us...but now? Scoreboard.

[MmP]

Duncan is done that's the problem

[024]

pretty much the last things the suicidal spur fans want to hear. but yeah, the realists knew this team had many lucky breaks during the regular season and that the lack of defense and size will eventually doom them.

[Uriel]

Is it genuinely gratifying to be right on this matter?

[Brutalis]

I figured our offense would always keep us in games, and didn't give enough thought to when the Spurs offense is derailed, there's no defense to save us anymore.

[The Truth #6]

You're right. I wouldn't be happy about it, though.

[Mugen]

We also said that Pop wouldn't play Splitter until it was too late.

[MannyIsGod]

An I told you so thread tonight?

Fuck you. FUCK YOU. You're a fucking dipshit. The game blog is filled with long time fans talking about how this is one of the worst things to watch as a Spurs fan and you're a happy little bitch because you got proven right and can post your "I TOLD YOU SO" thread.

What a fucking dick.

[mexicanjunior]

I said before the series the Grizz would win in 6...scoreboard.

[benefactor]

The plan was the problem. As soon at it was decided the Spurs would sacrifice Spurs basketball for the abomination that we see before us their fate was sealed.

[ChumpDumper]

personal internets scoreboard > anything else in the world

[vander]

Ha! I've been tellin it since '08

LOL @ Pop the genius,
LOL @ the extensions for TP/MANU/RJ
LOL @ TD and Manu "stepping it up in the playoffs"
LOL @ Neal and Splitter and McDyess all being the savior/final piece
LOL @ homer koolaid-drinking Spurstalk

[John Basedow]

http://www.crystalradio.net/minerals/pyrite.jpg

[benefactor]

An I told you so thread tonight?

Fuck you. FUCK YOU. You're a fucking dipshit. The game blog is filled with long time fans talking about how this is one of the worst things to watch as a Spurs fan and you're a happy little bitch because you got proven right and can post your "I TOLD YOU SO" thread.

What a fucking dick.
It one of the worst things to watch because those fans never accepted the reality of the situation. You deserve every bit of the pain you feel because you blinded yourself to the truth. Now the truth is hitting you in the face like a shovel. Does it still suck? Yes, because no fan wants to lose and no fan wants to be right about this sort of thing. It's not my fault you homers lived with in the fucking clouds for months when the writing has been on the wall the whole time.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This team hasn't been the same since Pop pulled Blair out of the starting five in favor of Dice's "corporate knowledge".

[MannyIsGod]

I still can't believe how much of a fucking scumbag you are for posting this thread tonight. Congrats on being right. Hope you did a fist pump.

[MannyIsGod]

It one of the worst things to watch because those fans never accepted the reality of the situation. You deserve every bit of the pain you feel because you blinded yourself to the truth. Now the truth is hitting you in the face like a shovel. Does it still suck? Yes, because no fan wants to lose and no fan wants to be right about this sort of thing. It's not my fault you homers lived with in the fucking clouds for months when the writing has been on the wall the whole time.

No its your fault you came in and posted this fucking thread tonight. This is what I expect from the Laker and Mavs trolls. YOU should fucking know better.

But congrats. You're obviously a great basketball mind. I'll just keep on rooting for the team I root for and hope they win 3 in a row. You just keep fist pumping and hoping for more losses so you can be right.

[ChumpDumper]

no fan wants to be right about this sort of thing.But if you think you are right, it's a great idea to start a thread so others can watch you fellate yourself.

[mexicanjunior]

I still can't believe how much of a fucking scumbag you are for posting this thread tonight. Congrats on being right. Hope you did a fist pump.

If the realists had been proven wrong (Spurs winning)...you would be the one making this thread...and I would be happy to accept my ignorance in being wrong. Too bad it doesn't work the other way around...

[benefactor]

No its your fault you came in and posted this fucking thread tonight. This is what I expect from the Laker and Mavs trolls. YOU should fucking know better.

But congrats. You're obviously a great basketball mind. I'll just keep on rooting for the team I root for and hope they win 3 in a row. You just keep fist pumping and hoping for more losses so you can be right.
It's not trolling its reality...and it's nothing I and many others haven't been saying repeatedly all year long. I never hoped for them to lose and I'd love for them to find some sort of miracle formula that gets them back to the Finals...but that's not going to happen. It was never going to happen.

[ColinB]

Who the hell are you speaking for/to?

[Dex]

Bad form. :td

[rascal]

I figured our offense would always keep us in games, and didn't give enough thought to when the Spurs offense is derailed, there's no defense to save us anymore.

The offense relied too much on the 3 point shot. You can get away with that in the regular season but the open looks are no longer there in the playoffs.

[John Basedow]

benefactor was nailed to the cross for his beliefs earlier this season. He was right afterall

[benefactor]

Back to earth, homers. Stop sleeping with your jerseys and start watching and understanding basketball.

[ChumpDumper]

lol

[IronMaxipad]

benefactor with the goods. :toast

[rascal]

No its your fault you came in and posted this fucking thread tonight. This is what I expect from the Laker and Mavs trolls. YOU should fucking know better.

But congrats. You're obviously a great basketball mind. I'll just keep on rooting for the team I root for and hope they win 3 in a row. You just keep fist pumping and hoping for more losses so you can be right.

Fools like you could not see the flaws in the team that would bring them down in the playoffs. You clowns argued all year with a few of us now you get your payback.

[MannyIsGod]

I'd rather be a homer than post shit like this. I like being a fan. Congrats on basically posting like a Dallas or Lakers troll. :tu They'll love this thread.

[peskypesky]

This team hasn't been the same since Pop pulled Blair out of the starting five in favor of Dice's "corporate knowledge".

:toast

[romad_20]

http://www.crystalradio.net/minerals/pyrite.jpg

mmmmmmm, fools gold
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQum_TL8RYjzQZ32pxZ1eUGws-xW_d5yuaHXZZtvetkN5EJbF86

[ChumpDumper]

spurfan loves it when the Spurs lose.

[MannyIsGod]

Fools like you could not see the flaws in the team that would bring them down in the playoffs. You clowns argued all year with a few of us now you get your payback.

Congrats on your payback. Most fans would rather the team they root for win instead of getting their internet scoreboard.

[spurtech09]

...that this team is a bunch of phonies with fake game plan that would not hold up in the playoffs. All you guys could say is "60 wins!"

None of you believed us...but now? Scoreboard.
your a phonie.....your not a true spur fan....now go cry cause the spurs lost again....just a game

[MannyIsGod]

shitty spurfan loves it when the Spurs lose.

[mexicanjunior]

spurfan loves it when the Spurs lose.

Would rather be celebrating a Spurs victory but I actually lived in reality with this team...

[Basketball Power]

ALL SEASON I;ve been telling idiots that the record didn't mean jack shit, especially when the Lakers raped us in SA then the Heat killed us by 30


we had NO bigs and Duncan is shit now, we were playing gimmick small ball all year jacking up threes up the ass


no one took us seriously all year, and guess what we proved them all right

[ChumpDumper]

Would rather be celebrating a Spurs victory but I actually lived in reality with this team...


ALL SEASON I;ve been telling idiots that the record didn't mean jack shit, especially when the Lakers raped us in SA then the Heat killed us by 30


we had NO bigs and Duncan is shit now, we were playing gimmick small ball all year jacking up threes up the ass


no one took us seriously all year, and guess what we proved them all rightYou guys are deliriously happy.

[GSH]

...that this team is a bunch of phonies with fake game plan that would not hold up in the playoffs. All you guys could say is "60 wins!"

None of you believed us...but now? Scoreboard.


We? Us? How many people are in your fucking head?

With this personnel, exactly what game plan would have held up? Before the season everyone said we couldn't win 50 games.

[ElNono]

It just sucks all the same we didn't win the 3 point lottery... :depressed

[ElNono]

I want to look forward though... what are we gonna do about this?

[mexicanjunior]

You guys are deliriously happy.

Meh...

[ChumpDumper]

I want to look forward though... what are we gonna do about this?Wait til the lockout is over.

[Capt Bringdown]

We could've kept the window open longer even with a fading and uneven Duncan if we had a authentic commitment to defense - that should have been the Spurs founding concept. Everything starts with defense.

Instead, we went with smallball, Bonnerball, turd towers gimmickry. Pop must answer for that - this was not the only option available. Pop brought us 4 rings, but he also finished the Duncan era before it was ready to end.

[ElNono]

Wait til the lockout is over.

:depressed
:depressed
:depressed

[benefactor]

I want to look forward though... what are we gonna do about this?
I don't know man. There's not a lot of good directions for this team to go. Perhaps hope Duncan opts out and resigns for less to give the team some financial relief? Package Dice's unguaranteed deal with Hill for another piece?

[Isitjustme?]

I want to look forward though... what are we gonna do about this?

wtf can the Spurs do? Some of those contracts look pretty awful right right now.

[SA210]

We also said that Pop wouldn't play Splitter until it was too late.

[yavozerb]

...that this team is a bunch of phonies with fake game plan that would not hold up in the playoffs. All you guys could say is "60 wins!"

None of you believed us...but now? Scoreboard.

Wow, the only thing this thread does is make yourself look really silly for being spurs die hard and then saying "I told you so" when times are tough...Who are you are calling phony again?

[Chomag]

I wonder who all were the "but Spurs are winning insert record crowd" during the season. I have forgotten...

At least they replaced the "it's only insert month" crowd this season rigth? lol

[Spurs Brazil]

I don't know man. There's not a lot of good directions for this team to go. Perhaps hope Duncan opts out and resigns for less to give the team some financial relief? Package Dice's unguaranteed deal with Hill for another piece?

TD deserves all the money of his last year and much more for all he gave to the franchise and the fans.

TD took less money in his last contract and the Spurs gave that money to Jefferson and Bonner

[Chomag]

(Double post)

[Chomag]

(edit) Dammit, why the hell is my PC spazzing out tonight. Posted 3 times! sorry.

[benefactor]

We? Us? How many people are in your fucking head?

With this personnel, exactly what game plan would have held up? Before the season everyone said we couldn't win 50 games.
I'm talking about when the Spurs were like 29-4 and people were talking about 70 wins(lol) while completely overlooking the fact that the type of basketball that was being played has never EVER held up in the playoffs. Was it fun? Sure...but if you want fun go root for the Warriors. I'd rather see this team try to put one more trophy in the case.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol @ you telling any Spurs fan to go root for another team when you're over here fist pumping at a loss. YES! I told you so!

[benefactor]

TD took less money in his last contract and the Spurs gave that money to Jefferson and Bonner
Three more years. Perhaps I can do something to avoid suicide during that stretch.

[benefactor]

:lol @ you telling any Spurs fan to go root for another team when you're over here fist pumping at a loss. YES! I told you so!
Enjoy your big dose of reality. You might want to find a bigger spoon.

[MannyIsGod]

Unlike you I don't enjoy the Spurs losing even if its reality. Thats the point. I don't deny you're right about the Spurs and you obviously have been all year. I just think your thread shows how much of a fan you really are and puts you on a level with Mavs and Lakers trolls.

Its obvious to Spurs fans that this is reality. The difference is we're not happy about it.

[MannyIsGod]

Unlike you I don't enjoy the Spurs losing even if its reality. Thats the point. I don't deny you're right about the Spurs and you obviously have been all year. I just think your thread shows how much of a fan you really are and puts you on a level with Mavs and Lakers trolls.

Its obvious to Spurs fans that this is reality. The difference is we're not happy about it.

[Spurs Brazil]

Three more years. Perhaps I can do something to avoid suicide during that stretch.

This is the most disturbing thing. Bonner failed in every playoff game he played and was rewarded with a 3 year deal.

RJ was a good gamble but after one year it was clear it would not work in the Spurs system, rewarded with a 3 year deal.

We would be better with a Dice/TD/Tiago/Blair rotation and any and I repeat any FA guy who could shoot from the corner, even R.Butler

And now we have 3 more year of Jefferson and Bonner

I just can't believe

[John Basedow]

We all knew the ending when Bonner and RJ were given longterm deals. You just don't do things like that.

[Cane]

Bad luck health-wise tbh and they were never the same after Duncan and Ginobili endured their injuries near the end of the season. Its no surprise that the Spurs needed to at least be healthy in order to compete in the playoffs which they haven't been since the last trophy.

In hindsight they got too beat up towards the end of he regular season to stand much of a chance. Anyone remember McDyess tweaking his knee a handful of times as well? Plus that stinger in game 3.

Not sure wtf is wrong with Parker though. I've been eating crow about his play all season and then he puts on a Grizz uniform in the playoffs....I hate to also tip-toe into the "told you so" crowd but man Parker has regressed the most of the Big 3 in the past couple of seasons when it comes to playoffs time and he's just 28 years old and he seems healthy this year and the healthiest of the big 3.

Here's hoping for the Spurs to turn it around. No one really thought the Spurs would be the top seed in the West and I bet few though they'd be down 1-3 to the Grizz without Rudy Gay.

[Obstructed_View]

I still can't believe how much of a fucking scumbag you are for posting this thread tonight. Congrats on being right. Hope you did a fist pump.

[Spur-Addict]

unlike you i don't enjoy the spurs losing even if its reality.

+1

[bdubya]

Okay, now I really want to see the Spurs reel off three in a row, just to make this the all-time greatest thread ever, anywhere.

[benefactor]

Unlike you I don't enjoy the Spurs losing even if its reality. Thats the point. I don't deny you're right about the Spurs and you obviously have been all year. I just think your thread shows how much of a fan you really are and puts you on a level with Mavs and Lakers trolls.

Its obvious to Spurs fans that this is reality. The difference is we're not happy about it.
Again...I never said I enjoyed it. You have interpreted this thread how you wish to interpret it. I've been asking fans to wake up all year. This thread is merely the call to those fans who choose to bury their heads in the sand. Even going into the playoff they refused to accept it. If they had spent more time looking at history and less time chasing bubbles blown out of a stick with a circle on the end then they would be able to take a more even approach to what is happening...as I am now. Am I coming across a bit harsh? You bet your ass I am. Tough love seems to be the only thing some people will respond to.

[mexicanjunior]

Again...I never said I enjoyed it. You have interpreted this thread how you wish to interpret it. I've been asking fans to wake up all year. This thread is merely the call to those fans who choose to bury their heads in the sand. Even going into the playoff they refused to accept it. If they had spent more time looking at history and less time chasing bubbles blown out of a stick with a circle on the end then they would be able to take a more even approach to what is happening...as I am now. Am I coming across a bit harsh? You bet your ass I am. Tough love seems to be the only thing some people will respond to.

I don't know why you are even trying to defend yourself at this point...Spurs homerism blinded most posters here all year, no way they admit incompetence after a loss like this...you would be better off making this thread a week after the Spurs are knocked out.

[ChumpDumper]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lilcnuuJUL1qg1wtw.gif

[L.I.T]

I'm having some difficulty figuring out who are the Spurs fans and who are the Lakers/Mavs trolls.

Damn sad.

[MannyIsGod]

Again...I never said I enjoyed it. You have interpreted this thread how you wish to interpret it. I've been asking fans to wake up all year. This thread is merely the call to those fans who choose to bury their heads in the sand. Even going into the playoff they refused to accept it. If they had spent more time looking at history and less time chasing bubbles blown out of a stick with a circle on the end then they would be able to take a more even approach to what is happening...as I am now. Am I coming across a bit harsh? You bet your ass I am. Tough love seems to be the only thing some people will respond to.

This post (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5176038#post5176038) shows you were very happy about the situation. Maybe you and Mexican here can do a chest bump to celebrate.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm having some difficulty figuring out who are the Spurs fans and who are the Lakers/Mavs trolls.

Damn sad.

[benefactor]

I don't know why you are even trying to defend yourself at this point...Spurs homerism blinded most posters here all year, no way they admit incompetence after a loss like this...you would be better off making this thread a week after the Spurs are knocked out.
Just for the record, I'm not on your level. Since I started posting here several years ago I have never seen a poster that enjoyed watching his team lose as much as you do. My history speaks for itself. I post here in the best and worst of times...from the end of the season through the draft all the way up until now. You only show up when they lose and revel in it. Do me a favor and piss off.

[mexicanjunior]

This post (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5176038#post5176038) shows you were very happy about the situation. Maybe you and Mexican here can do a chest bump to celebrate.

Whatever makes you feel better...If you don't want to be mad at your team for playing like shit, next best thing is to spew venom on those that had it right all along... :toast

[ohmwrecker]

Unfortunately, "we" are all in the same boat here. There has been some blatant homerism, some focused optimism, some dubious cynicism and some blatant negativity, but nobody was right about everything. Nobody.
We are all fans of the same team and none of us should feel above anyone else as far as that goes.

[GSH]

I'm talking about when the Spurs were like 29-4 and people were talking about 70 wins(lol) while completely overlooking the fact that the type of basketball that was being played has never EVER held up in the playoffs. Was it fun? Sure...but if you want fun go root for the Warriors. I'd rather see this team try to put one more trophy in the case.

I think the team got the best mileage possible out of the personnel. Memphis was the worst possible first round match-up. And a big part of the problem, as I have said all season long, hs been the veteran players doing stupid shit in crunch time.

You have a point that putting up lots of points, and not playing solid defense is not a recipe for playoff success. But I never thought the lack of defense was from a lack of interest in playing defense, or a lack of coaching defense by Pop. Are you saying that he doesn't know how to coach D? Or that he should have coached the offense better? He's never been innovative on the offensive end. But weren't you saying that offense isn't going to win a championship?

So what really is the point?

[mexicanjunior]

You only show up when they lose and revel in it. Do me a favor and piss off.

Yeah, I will get right on that...

[MannyIsGod]

Unfortunately, "we" are all in the same boat here. There has been some blatant homerism, some focused optimism, some dubious cynicism and some blatant negativity, but nobody was right about everything. Nobody.
We are all fans of the same team and none of us should feel above anyone else as far as that goes.


I don't know about that. I feel like a much better fan than Benefactor after this thread. He's obviously a smarter basketball analyst, though.

[DPG21920]

Ohm, some people are right way more often than others though. Doesn't make you "above them", but to act like everyone's takes on here are equal is just silly.

We have all been wrong though. Numerous times.

[rascal]

This is the most disturbing thing. Bonner failed in every playoff game he played and was rewarded with a 3 year deal.

RJ was a good gamble but after one year it was clear it would not work in the Spurs system, rewarded with a 3 year deal.

We would be better with a Dice/TD/Tiago/Blair rotation and any and I repeat any FA guy who could shoot from the corner, even R.Butler

And now we have 3 more year of Jefferson and Bonner

I just can't believe

I have said this spurs front office is over rated. They have locked up this same core team for the next couple of years. This team as constructed is not a championship contender.

[ChumpDumper]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhgftrt2Na1qfcbk7.gif

[Cane]

I don't know about that. I feel like a much better fan than Benefactor after this thread. He's obviously a smarter basketball analyst, though.

For what its worth the OP made a thread that the Spurs and Duncan were done last season after losing at New Jersey without Parker and Manu on the tail end of a back to back road trip. Nothing new to see here from benefactor :downspin:

[ChumpDumper]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhgftalpel1qfcbk7.gif

[MannyIsGod]

Its not that he posted that they're done. Thats not the point. Its that on the night of the worst loss many Spurs fans can remember, this asshole can only think to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

I thought thats what the Mavs and Lakers trolls were for.

[DPG21920]

They are also for not paying me on bets they lost.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm willing to give anyone 10 to 1 odds on any bet that Jefferson won't be here for 3 more years.

People are unaware on the size and length of Blair and Hill's contracts. With their salary value to go up at least 500-600% (when their rookie contracts expire), the Spurs will most likely look to move one or both of them if they don't intend to pay them. (Remember how they just gave Tony a 4 year-50 million dollar extension; he plays PG btw).

This off-season will be the perfect time to package Blair with Jefferson FWIW.

[ohmwrecker]

Ohm, some people are right way more often than others though. Doesn't make you "above them", but to act like everyone's takes on here are equal is just silly.

We have all been wrong though. Numerous times.

I didn't say everyone's takes are equal. We are all squarely on equal ground as fans however.

[mexicanjunior]

...

You must really love Glee...

[benefactor]

I think the team got the best mileage possible out of the personnel. Memphis was the worst possible first round match-up. And a big part of the problem, as I have said all season long, hs been the veteran players doing stupid shit in crunch time.

You have a point that putting up lots of points, and not playing solid defense is not a recipe for playoff success. But I never thought the lack of defense was from a lack of interest in playing defense, or a lack of coaching defense by Pop. Are you saying that he doesn't know how to coach D? Or that he should have coached the offense better? He's never been innovative on the offensive end. But weren't you saying that offense isn't going to win a championship?

So what really is the point?
It's less about what the Spurs could have done and more about people failing to realize that this was not going to lead to success. I know that the Spurs didn't have the personnel to play the type of defense they played in the past...but many fans were still saying that the increase in offense would offset the defensive issues and all would be fine. I told them it was not going to be fine and they pointed to the Spurs record. Now here we are...down 3-1 to the 8 seed and no one can seem to process it. It does suck, but I can process it fine because I saw this coming long ago. I thought the Spurs would win this series fairly convincingly...partially because I underestimated the Grizz a bit. But it's no surprise to me they are losing it. It just happened a bit sooner than expected.

[MannyIsGod]

I like Glee quite a bit. Is that really an attempt at an insult?

[DMC]

There can be only one, and anyone who loses before that will be going through the same things we are. If we aren't going the entire distance, no reason to go anywhere.

[ChumpDumper]

You must really love Glee...You're the one who knew they were from Glee....

[Mugen]

I like Glee quite a bit. Is that really an attempt at an insult?

Only if you're not gay.

[benefactor]

Ohm, some people are right way more often than others though. Doesn't make you "above them", but to act like everyone's takes on here are equal is just silly.

We have all been wrong though. Numerous times.
Indeed. I have been quick to admit my failures too. I've eaten much crow for things I have posted. Perhaps some sort of smile will come from the basketball gods and I will eat it once again.

[mexicanjunior]

You're the one who knew they were from Glee....

I don't have anything against Glee, just an observation on the GIF's you chose...commercials made the characters recognizable...

[jag]

Its not that he posted that they're done. Thats not the point. Its that on the night of the worst loss many Spurs fans can remember, this asshole can only think to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

I thought thats what the Mavs and Lakers trolls were for.

I agree.

This team hasn't played the kind of defense necessary to make a real run at a title this season. Every single Spurs fan saw that. It's not cutting edge to think LA, Boston and now OKC had a better chance. An "I told you so" thread is the stuff of pussy fans.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't have anything against Glee, just an observation on the GIF's you chose...commercials made the characters recognizable...Yes....commercials....

[mexicanjunior]

I like Glee quite a bit. Is that really an attempt at an insult?

No one was talking to you...I guess your attempt to block the fun bunch celebration was distracted by my post to Chumpdumper...

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0603/gallery.nfltdcelebration/images/05152422.jpg

[benefactor]

I'm willing to give anyone 10 to 1 odds on any bet that Jefferson won't be here for 3 more years.

People are unaware on the size and length of Blair and Hill's contracts. With their salary value to go up at least 500-600% (when their rookie contracts expire), the Spurs will most likely look to move one or both of them if they don't intend to pay them. (Remember how they just gave Tony a 4 year-50 million dollar extension; he plays PG btw).

This off-season will be the perfect time to package Blair with Jefferson FWIW.
You can't be serious with this.

[ohmwrecker]

...but many fans were still saying that the increase in offense would offset the defensive issues and all would be fine. I told them it was not going to be fine and they pointed to the Spurs record.

Honestly, though . . . is it worth scoreboarding anyone who actually said anything like that. I can't think of a single, specific poster who had this take because it was probably someone I don't pay a lot of attention to anyway.

[mexicanjunior]

Yes....commercials....

Yes...although I do like Jane Lynch's movie work.

[carina_gino20]

"I venture to say that what is bad in the candid friend is simply that he is not candid. He is keeping something back-- his own gloomy pleasure in saying unpleasant things." ~ Chesterton

[GSH]

It's less about what the Spurs could have done and more about people failing to realize that this was not going to lead to success. I know that the Spurs didn't have the personnel to play the type of defense they played in the past...but many fans were still saying that the increase in offense would offset the defensive issues and all would be fine. I told them it was not going to be fine and they pointed to the Spurs record. Now here we are...down 3-1 to the 8 seed and no one can seem to process it. It does suck, but I can process it fine because I saw this coming long ago. I thought the Spurs would win this series fairly convincingly...partially because I underestimated the Grizz a bit. But it's no surprise to me they are losing it. It just happened a bit sooner than expected.


Fair enough. I understand what you're saying, and I can't really argue.

I will say this. With the right matchups, the Spurs could have made it to the WCF, anyway. It sounded like you were saying that a first round exit was inevitible, and that's just not right. But, yeah, in the end defense and big men win championships, and this team never had the D, or the strength in the middle to go all the way, without some amazing matchups and luck.

I think what's irking people is that it looks like we are going out in the first round, and you're saying "I told you so". That wouldn't have been a good bet, even after the late losing streak. That and the fact that it's too soon. Sort of like Gilbert Gottfried's joke right after the Japan earthquake.

Agree? Disagree? Anyone... anyone? Beuhler?

[mexicanjunior]

I think what's irking people is that it looks like we are going out in the first round, and you're saying "I told you so". That wouldn't have been a good bet, even after the late losing streak.

The Manu injury had more to do with it to me than the late losing streak...

[benefactor]

Fair enough. I understand what you're saying, and I can't really argue.

I will say this. With the right matchups, the Spurs could have made it to the WCF, anyway. It sounded like you were saying that a first round exit was inevitible, and that's just not right. But, yeah, in the end defense and big men win championships, and this team never had the D, or the strength in the middle to go all the way, without some amazing matchups and luck.

I myself said that this team's ceiling was the WCF. There have been teams in the past that played this typed of ball that made it there...and the Big 3 can never be counted out. I never expected a first round exit, but I'm far from shocked.


I think what's irking people is that it looks like we are going out in the first round, and you're saying "I told you so". That wouldn't have been a good bet, even after the late losing streak. That and the fact that it's too soon. Sort of like Gilbert Gottfried's joke right after the Japan earthquake.

Agree? Disagree? Anyone... anyone? Beuhler?
I'm not really saying I told you so to a first round exit...I'm saying I told you so to the team being exposed for what they are. It may come across as a bit harsh, but I've grown increasingly frustrated with people who have accepted this type of basketball as something that the Spurs could succeed with.

[GSH]

The Manu injury had more to do with it to me than the late losing streak...

Or the Manu injury. I'm saying that it sounds like he was predicting a first round out, because of their style of play. That would have been a pretty bold (and ridiculous) prediction. There's a reason these other teams didn't win any more games in the regular season. And there's a reason why we beat so many of them in the regular season. Memphis happens to be the team we struggled against the most.


[For the record, Gottfried talked about a Japanese man who lost his fiancee in the tsunami, and said, "Don't worry... there will be another on floating by any minute." Kind of tacky, with everything going on over there. Maybe he should have just said, "There's other girls in the sea"? Maybe not.

This was probably just not the best time for Benefactor to sound like he was saying "I told you the Spurs would be out in the first round." It could have waited a day or two.]

[ChumpDumper]

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[MaNu4Tres]

Its not that he posted that they're done. Thats not the point. Its that on the night of the worst loss many Spurs fans can remember, this asshole can only think to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

I thought thats what the Mavs and Lakers trolls were for.

I don't believe for a second that Memphis is the better team.

People just fail to remember how fine the line is between winning and losing in the playoffs.

In just about every playoff series that I can remember (even in the championship title runs; excluding 99'), the Spurs were blown out at least on one occasion every series. Just like they just did in Game 4.

The difference between then and now is the Spurs usually won the games like Game 1 and Game 3. Why? Defensive stops. Which could have happened more consistently for 48 minutes had Splitter been implemented in the rotation ahead of Bonner and Blair. But Pop didn't and Spurs barely lost Games 1 and 3 with Manu with one arm and with Tony having his head up his ass. And they only lost by one possession both games.

Sorry but I'm not buying the notion that this Spurs team is losing to the better team.

So many things went against the Spurs in Games 1-3, From Manu's one arm- To Parker taking a week long siesta- To Pop taking a shit on his own team by playing Bonner and Blair huge minutes game 1-- To Pop taking another shit on his own team by realizing the obvious about Splitter when it was too late-- To Zach Randolph turning into Robert Horry Game 3- I can go on and on....

Spurs could have easily been up 3-0 or even 2-1, then this Game 4 loss doesn't look so bad.

You have to remember, in every playoff series the Spurs have played (even in the title years; excluding 99') the Spurs were always blown out at least one game. This Game 4 was that game-- It's just unfortunate the Spurs weren't able to overcome at least one or both of the defeats earlier in the series.

[gospursgojas]

Id rather be wrong a thousand times about the Spurs losing than to be able to pimp myself being right

[senorglory]

...that this team is a bunch of phonies with fake game plan that would not hold up in the playoffs. All you guys could say is "60 wins!"

None of you believed us...but now? Scoreboard.

Fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. fuck you.