Bonner 26% 3PT shooting...

[ElNono]

4-15 from downtown in 5 games...
New career high in minutes played in the playoffs (20.4)...

Any questions, chazley?

[Isitjustme?]

We should just trade him and Jefferson for someone else's bad contracts.

[TJastal]

According to some around here, he doesn't deserve ANY more blame than any other guy on the team.

I mean, CLEARLY all he needed was just more time to get a rhythym. And more minutes.

:lol

[1Parker1]

Bonner is just not built for the postseason. I think his release litterally just changes when he's faced with the pressure of trying to get off a shot quick and under jittery conditions.

That being said, there's not a lot of 3 point shooters out there who are able to convert on a regular basis in the playoffs when the speed slows down and teams learn your strengths and can defend it better.

[Hoops Czar]

Who gives a shit. Bonner just added to the gimmick on the basketball court. This team was exploited for who they were. For some odd reason, this forum couldn't see it. As bad as Bonner was, he didn't lose this series.

[Marcus Bryant]

Bonner is fine as the 5th big, not the 3rd.

[ElNono]

I didn't put the series on him...

But he's part of the problem, and what we really need to start getting away from... soft, mentally weak players that fold when it matters playing an extended role in the team...

[ElNono]

Bonner is fine as the 5th big, not the 3rd.

Agree. He should've been what Novak was this series...

[peskypesky]

but he spreads the floor!

[Nathan89]

3..2..1..Chazley

"The sample size is still not large enough"

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bonner is fine as the 5th big, not the 3rd.

You and I both know he will always be a rotation player for Pop as long as the guy has a pulse and a contract. Pop's decided all he has to do is keep trotting him out there and he'll turn into Horry one day.

It's like Finley. Pop just won't pull the plug unless he's not on our roster.

[objective]

Bonner and Jefferson (and Pop's rotations and Buford's signings) are what's wrong with the Spurs.

Things won't be right until RJ and Bonner are out of uniform. Be that through trade, getting cut, or permanently deactivated, that is the situation.

[ElNono]

You and I both know he will always be a rotation player for Pop as long as the guy has a pulse and a contract. Pop's decided all he has to do is keep trotting him out there and he'll turn into Horry one day.

It's like Finley. Pop just won't pull the plug unless he's not on our roster.

I called this last summer as the reason why he shouldn't be re-signed... it's not that he doesn't try hard or that he can't be a decent 5th big, or play 5-10 mins a game... it's that Pop is so foolishly in love with him that he can't help himself from trotting him out there, while guys like Splitter, who need to be developed, are watching from the end of the bench.

[temujin]

A lot of people predicted that Bonner will vanish in the PO.
Why am I not surprised?

Good luck with him for 3 more years.

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Look at the bright side... at least lots of Coach B videos will still be released.

Let's toast to this! :toast

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(toast if you got the balls to do it) :lol

[Venti Quattro]

BUT HE SPACES THE FLOOR :cry

[Doctor J]

As long as Pop is around, there Bonner will be... forever.

I want to get rid of him together with RJ... but although RJ may be gone, Bonner will live.

Pop and Bonner are in love... I don't know why and how, but that's what it is.

[SenorSpur]

This should come as no surprise to anyone.

The biggest surprise is that Pop, his coaching staff, and the FO continue to invest faith, dollars and playing time in this guy. He's almost treated as though he's a critical role player or something. Nothing could be furthe from the truth. On another club, he's be a 10th man.

Pop needs to recognize the shortcomings of his some of his own players.

What am I saying? It's three years since Horry has left the building and Bonner cannot even produce half of what Horry provided - at his advanced age even.

[Harry Callahan]

He is just a specialist who should get no more than 10 minutes a night.

You really can't trust him. He has proven what he can and can't do over that last four years. He is just a guy.

[SA210]

You and I both know he will always be a rotation player for Pop as long as the guy has a pulse and a contract. Pop's decided all he has to do is keep trotting him out there and he'll turn into Horry one day.

It's like Finley. Pop just won't pull the plug unless he's not on our roster.

Thats how I see it.

[DarrinS]

Some Bonner highlights

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[BRs.Ganso]

Some Bonner highlights

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hahahaahaha

nice one

Bonner before NBA

hahahaha :lol

[resistanze]

We're talking a guy who had a smaller role when he was on the Raptors. It's mind-boggling, really.

[TampaDude]

Playoff Bonner...'nuff said...

[timtonymanu]

I hate Richard Jefferson more, tbh.

RJ is actually suppose to be a contributor. Bonner is what he is and Pop thinks that equals Robert Horry. Not Bonner's fault at all.

[Agloco]

This should come as no surprise to anyone.

The biggest surprise is that Pop, his coaching staff, and the FO continue to invest faith, dollars and playing time in this guy. He's almost treated as though he's a critical role player or something. Nothing could be furthe from the truth. On another club, he's be a 10th man.

Pop needs to recognize the shortcomings of his some of his own players.

What am I saying? It's three years since Horry has left the building and Bonner cannot even produce half of what Horry provided - at his advanced age even.

Been saying this exact same thing since Bruce and Bob exited stage left. We've replaced those two with Bonner and Dicky J.

Fail.

[Ginobilly]

It's because Bonner's white and the Spurs organization have to please the high-class white fans who pay for Spurs season tickets and suites.( There's racism within Sports you Know?) They have to give them somebody to cheer for and relate to. Manu Ginobili = For the Latino/Hispanic population, Tim Duncan = The intellectual black community of San Antonio, Tony Parker= European d-bag community, and Richard Jefferson = I'm just going to leave it alone here. What happened to the Spurs of the past when they got white players with balls( Steve Kerr anyone?)

[angelbelow]

Well this shouldn't be surprising. Not only does have a history of struggling in the playoffs he struggled massively down the stretch of the season.

Even if Matt Bonner shot a great % this post season I wouldn't necessarily be surprised either, after all that's his job.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's because Bonner's white and the Spurs organization have to please the high-class white fans who pay for Spurs season tickets and suites.( There's racism within Sports you Know?) They have to give them somebody to cheer for and relate to. Manu Ginobili = For the Latino/Hispanic population, Tim Duncan = The intellectual black community of San Antonio, Tony Parker= European d-bag community, and Richard Jefferson = I'm just going to leave it alone here. What happened to the Spurs of the past when they got white players with balls( Steve Kerr anyone?)


That's such a retarded take. Pop's said it before. Bonner is here to play the Horry role of the stretch four and hit shots from outside.

The problem is he is nothing but a giant vagina in the postseason.

[GoodOdor]

Ends up shooting 33%(6 out of 18).....not as bad as could have been, tbh. Most of the damage was the memphis bigs abusing him pretty much every trip down the other end.

[TDMVPDPOY]

he got his while allowing the his opposition have a career year

[Hoops Czar]

That's such a retarded take. Pop's said it before. Bonner is here to play the Horry role of the stretch four and hit shots from outside.

The problem is he is nothing but a giant vagina in the postseason.

Well, thats a retarded take by Pop. Horry was more than a three point specialist. He could defend the paint, rebound and block shots.

Bonner can shoot three's and shove sandwiches in his mouse like a damn pig. If I were Horry, and I heard those comments, I'd be upset.

[spurtech09]

time for the spurs to trade bonner and rj.....bonner is a great guy and yes he can make 3pt shots....but I think its time the spurs get stronger and tough....bonner and rj are just to weak.....you never know maybe james anderson can take rjs spot....also spurs need a big thats going to take over tim duncans roll...I like splitter but hes not the guy that has a strong offensive game....I like splitters d though and I don't mind him starting with tim duncan....spurs also need a decent pg cause hill just doesn't cut it....hes more of a shooting guard...but the main thing spurs need a better choice than bonner and rj....get some tuff guys

[200 miles]

time for the spurs to trade bonner and rj.....bonner is a great guy and yes he can make 3pt shots....but I think its time the spurs get stronger and tough....bonner and rj are just to weak.....you never know maybe james anderson can take rjs spot....also spurs need a big thats going to take over tim duncans roll...I like splitter but hes not the guy that has a strong offensive game....I like splitters d though and I don't mind him starting with tim duncan....spurs also need a decent pg cause hill just doesn't cut it....hes more of a shooting guard...but the main thing spurs need a better choice than bonner and rj....get some tuff guys

Easier said than done. I didn't think I'd say this, but as long as this team has BOTH Pop AND Bonner on its payroll, the San Antonio Spurs are doomed and will not go far in the playoffs for a long, long, long time.



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[Chomag]

Bonner does need to be separated from Pop but as long as Pop's in charge I don't think he will let that happen.

After saying that Although his contract is a bit pricey for what he is, his contract isn't unmovable. I think he would thrive on a non-playoff aspirated team. I'm sure there are of few of these teams that would consider him. Best bet would him being used in a package deal though
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[rascal]

Bonner cannot hit shots if he is guarded. During the regular season no one cares and gives him wide open looks. He doesn't get those in the playoffs.

[jeebus]

Bonner cannot hit shots if he is not guarded. B:lolnner = b:loltch

[rmt]

I wonder if Bonner doesn't think that Pop's crazy for having him guard Zach. I actually felt sorry for him when he got crunched by those 2 MEM players - like "I should be at the 3 pt line being guarded by a PG - not being abused by Randolph and Gasol."

I won't rag on Bonner because he did play well in the last game. The blame, for this series, lies primarily with Pop for thinking that he could go into the playoffs with TD/Dice/Bonner/Blair. Zach and Gasol made him pay.

[Splits]

Bonner and Splitter kept the Spurs in the game in the 1st half last night. To put the failure of the season on Bonner is idiotic. There are 29 teams which would love to have the most accurate 3pt shooter in the league for $3mil a year. He is not the problem. The "big" 3 failed to show up or show any heart. To blame Bonner is like blaming Neal or Splitter, it makes no sense. If he made $7mil a year, maybe. But he makes chump change.

[Sean Cagney]

Well, thats a retarded take by Pop. Horry was more than a three point specialist. He could defend the paint, rebound and block shots.

Bonner can shoot three's and shove sandwiches in his mouse like a damn pig. If I were Horry, and I heard those comments, I'd be upset.

Basically!

[Sean Cagney]

Bonner and Splitter kept the Spurs in the game in the 1st half last night. To put the failure of the season on Bonner is idiotic. There are 29 teams which would love to have the most accurate 3pt shooter in the league for $3mil a year. He is not the problem. The "big" 3 failed to show up or show any heart. To blame Bonner is like blaming Neal or Splitter, it makes no sense. If he made $7mil a year, maybe. But he makes chump change.

Big three did not show up? Tony did well, Manu even had a few shots and tried his butt off! Tim just is Tim now, he is not going to get 19 and 11 but he will get you 12 and 10! They did what they could and were just overmatched out there. Bonner would be good yes if he played the role he deserves, he is overplayed though and used wrong! When he was on Randolph forget it, no chance and he had to foul everytime down there and it was the penalty from then out.

George HILL did not show at all, RJ? Pshhhhhhhhh where was he? Big three did well enough to win, role players sucked later. Neal kept us in it early along with Bonner agreed there! The bench did kick butt there! Sides that though?

[ElNono]

Bonner and Splitter kept the Spurs in the game in the 1st half last night. To put the failure of the season on Bonner is idiotic.


I didn't put the series on him...


There are 29 teams which would love to have the most accurate 3pt shooter in the league for $3mil a year.

They can have him. He's nowhere near the 'most accurate 3pt shooter in the league' when it matters.


He is not the problem.


But he's part of the problem, and what we really need to start getting away from... soft, mentally weak players that fold when it matters playing an extended role in the team...


The "big" 3 failed to show up or show any heart. To blame Bonner is like blaming Neal or Splitter, it makes no sense. If he made $7mil a year, maybe. But he makes chump change.

Money has nothing to do with it. A guy like Neal doesn't make anywhere near $3 million, and it's really an insult to put him in the same sentence as Bonner.

Ultimately, it's the coach's fault for not being able to get rid of the addiction. As MB pointed out, he should be a 5th big in this team, at best.

[Avitus1]

Bonner sucks in Playoffs. What good is having him on the team when he doesn't show up when needed? Fuck his ass... he's another part of the package deal Spurs need to make.

[yavozerb]

4-15 from downtown in 5 games...
New career high in minutes played in the playoffs (20.4)...

Any questions, chazley?

Another great thread, thanks...Lets talk about team turnovers, fg% for the team, team ft shooting, I could go on with team stats but we will talk about a bench player...awesome :toast

[lefty]

This should come as no surprise to anyone.

The biggest surprise is that Pop, his coaching staff, and the FO continue to invest faith, dollars and playing time in this guy. He's almost treated as though he's a critical role player or something. Nothing could be furthe from the truth. On another club, he's be a 10th man.

Pop needs to recognize the shortcomings of his some of his own players.

What am I saying? It's three years since Horry has left the building and Bonner cannot even produce half of what Horry provided - at his advanced age even.

Horry good stuff



And Jax....



So Spurs refused to pay Jax, but it's OK to pay Bonner

[ElNono]

Another great thread, thanks...Lets talk about team turnovers, fg% for the team, team ft shooting, I could go on with team stats but we will talk about a bench player...awesome :toast

Feel free to start a thread talking about whatever else you want... if you don't want to talk about Bonner, don't... :lol

[chazley]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judgement of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

[chazley]

Bonner and Splitter kept the Spurs in the game in the 1st half last night. To put the failure of the season on Bonner is idiotic. There are 29 teams which would love to have the most accurate 3pt shooter in the league for $3mil a year. He is not the problem. The "big" 3 failed to show up or show any heart. To blame Bonner is like blaming Neal or Splitter, it makes no sense. If he made $7mil a year, maybe. But he makes chump change.

The problem with Bonner isn't the amount of money he makes, it's the fact he gets the 3rd most minutes of any big on this team. He had two good halves against the Grizzles, but the fact is as a whole this series he played terrible. Tiago showed way too much this series for Bonner to ever enter a game before him.

You're my favorite poster by the way.

[rwb]

It's because Bonner's white and the Spurs organization have to please the high-class white fans who pay for Spurs season tickets and suites.( There's racism within Sports you Know?) They have to give them somebody to cheer for and relate to. Manu Ginobili = For the Latino/Hispanic population, Tim Duncan = The intellectual black community of San Antonio, Tony Parker= European d-bag community, and Richard Jefferson = I'm just going to leave it alone here. What happened to the Spurs of the past when they got white players with balls( Steve Kerr anyone?)

As a white person, I can definitely relate to Bonner not being able to play basketball either. We gringos love porking down big bucks to watch pasty faced, bunny-hopping nerds like us blow our team's opportunitie's to win games. Makes us feel good about contributing.

:pop: It's just basketball.

[slick'81]

bbbut he hit 2 threes in a row in the the playoffs

[all_heart]

Bowen and Horry were replaced w/RJ and Bonner... nuff said..

[ElNono]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judgement of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

Neither guarded him, really, which is really the point...

I wouldn't mind him having the 5th big role... I just don't see Pop doing it though.

[angelbelow]

Neither guarded him, really, which is really the point...

I wouldn't mind him having the 5th big role... I just don't see Pop doing it though.

At this point I'd rather have someone like Tony Massenberg be our 5th man. (Not literally but figuratively). Matt can be the 6th.

[Sean Cagney]

To be honest, I was HUGELY disappointed with Bonner in this series. I thought he would go off against two slow bigs like ZBo and Marc, but if he isn't capable of hitting threes against those two in the playoffs, there's no hope for Matt Bonner on any playoff team. He is still a GREAT weapon to have for the regular season though... which no longer interests me.

I still don't think my main point was way off though... Bonner is such a good regular season player that I wanted to get a larger playoff sample size to have a better judgement of if he was good or not in the playoffs. We now have the sample size that says Bonner is no more than a situational playoff player.

All along I've said Tiago should be our third big, Matt fourth, Dejuan 5th. Only thing I'd change is Dejuan 4th, Bonner 5th.

U said it urself.......... We got our sample size though last year and the year before to tell us that, I needed no more to tell me that there.

[chazley]

U said it urself.......... We got our sample size though last year and the year before to tell us that, I needed no more to tell me that there.

No, we did not have the sample size because in 09 and 10 playoffs at least one of our big 3 was injured.

2011 all our big 3 were playing big minutes and relatively healthy, and I saw all I needed to.

[Cessation]

lol "but.. but. but sample size"

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

thats the only reason ive been saying pop needs to go clearly he has horrible judgement these days, and cant be trusted with regular season/playoff rotations! i mean tiago came in the summer and pop did absolutely nothing with the guy theres no excuse for that.

thats something a moron does, im sorry but pop is not a genius he's just a lucky bastard who is arrogant as hell now.he needs to be fired asap, and im telling you guys right now i have a feeling bonner is going to be the least of our problems next year were going to be begging pop to gtfo of here.

mark my words its only going to get worse (pops arrogance/insanity) unless he swallows his pride..does anyone see that happening>? FOR ALL WE KNOW BONNER COULD START NEXT YEAR i dont put it past pop

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

He didn't sabotage the series, but his shooting was awful. Just shows that 3's don't work too well in the playoffs.

Hopefully RJ and Bonner are traded.

[Warlord23]

Don't worry about the percentages, Bonner will play for Pop as long as Pop is coach, and when he's done as a player he'll be an excellent assistant coach.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No, we did not have the sample size because in 09 and 10 playoffs at least one of our big 3 was injured.

2011 all our big 3 were playing big minutes and relatively healthy, and I saw all I needed to.

What does the health of the big three have to do with Bonner's nuts shriveling to the size of raisins in the playoffs? Everyone with a brain saw that two years ago, nothing has changed. Guys either have it or they don't.

[BackHome]

Please forgive me my brothers I have been a nay sayer in the brotherhood of "BONNER SUCKS BIG BALLS" camp. Please do not hold that against me for I have seen the light my brothers and I welcome joining you of the brotherhood of "BONNER SUCKS BIG BALLS" camp!

[itzsoweezee]

Told you so! I predicted this shit EXACTLY when popovich resigned Boner to a multi-year deal after two years of absolutely pathetic performance in the playoffs. I was laughing at you people who were claiming Boner would just be a 10 min player.

I knew Popovich was finished when he benched Bowen in favor of Finley. The guy is a fucking joke now.

I was for a confident coach, someone who wants to play players that are tough. I guess ill keep wishing.

[itzsoweezee]

Told you so! I predicted this shit EXACTLY when popovich resigned Boner to a multi-year deal after two years of absolutely pathetic performance in the playoffs. I was laughing at you people who were claiming Boner would just be a 10 min player.

I knew Popovich was finished when he benched Bowen in favor of Finley. The guy is a fucking joke now.

I wish for a confident coach, someone who wants to play players that are tough. I guess ill keep wishing.

[Dex]

I would go back and bump all the threads where people predicted this from Bonner, but I don't think our servers could handle the load.

The only person who didn't seem to see it coming (or acknowledge it) was Pop. Hell, he's probably still clinging to the fact that Bonner hit a few big threes (which ultimately didn't help us), despite the fact that the guy is a complete liability when he is shooting that poorly from the arc.