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mexicanjunior
05-01-2011, 10:54 AM
Good article from Craig Miller of the Ticket in Dallas...he is probably the only Spurs fan that works for the station.

http://juniormiller1310.blogspot.com/



The End of an Era

A couple of weeks ago, Sports Illustrated's cover story proclaimed the new "small ball" revolution in the NBA. One of their examples happened to be the Spurs, who this year went to a smaller, higher scoring lineup in order to take more of the focus off their aging big man, Tim Duncan. Duncan, of course, had been the rock of a Spurs foundation that had won four NBA titles since 1999. But Duncan's skills were clearly in decline.

With apologies to S.I., and anyone else who loves "small ball", I will always believe that in the NBA, much like in the mind of a woman, size matters. Give me bigs--young, athletic bigs, preferably--over small scorers. I'll beat you every time. Kids on the playground learn this basic premise at an early age--the tall guys are always picked first when choosing sides.

(Note: There are, of course, occasional exceptions to any rule. In this case, Shawn Bradley would be an example of being the exception to the "always give me a tall guy" rule.)

Spurs "small ball" didn't work too well against a younger, hungrier, and bigger Memphis team. The Spurs joined the Mavs as the only top seeds to ever lose a best-of-seven to an eight seed. The Grizzlies made San Antonio look old, slow...and small. Zac Randolph was a beast and was way too much for the Spurs aging and undersized power forward Antonio McDyess. And, Marc Gasol was too much for Duncan to handle. That's right--Tim Duncan had a tough time with Marc Gasol. Not Pau Gasol. Marc.

It's not that Duncan was awful in this series (12 ppg and 10 rpg). He just isn't the Tim Duncan of old. Now, he's just old Tim Duncan.

In the 2003 playoffs, at the height of his powers, Duncan scored 37 points and grabbed 16 boards in the series-clinching game against the Lakers. That day (and that series), Duncan dominated an in-his-prime Shaquille O'Neal, who found himself matched up with Duncan more than usual, as the Lakers had no answer for "The Big Fundamental" (as Shaq called him).

Fast forward to 2011--the series-deciding game 6 in Memphis. Duncan scored just 12 points and grabbed 10 rebounds, while Gasol had 12 and 14. Gasol was so effective guarding Duncan that the Spurs never ran the offense through the Duncan post--a complete departure from the glory days. Instead, the Spurs had to run everything through Parker and Manu on the perimeter, where they were no match for the young, quick, and athletic Grizzlies. I counted exactly one time that Duncan scored on Gasol from a traditional low-post set. And, I counted exactly one Duncan bank shot--the familiar 16-footer from the side that used to be automatic. Not anymore.

NBA champs are built from the inside out. You have to have big, strong guys inside who can attack the rim on offense and who can get easy, post-type shots in the paint. Those same guys have to be able to defend the rim on the other end. If you have one of those guys, you are golden. If you have two of those guys, you are almost unbeatable (think the current Lakers, or the Duncan/Robinson Spurs). If you have none of those guys, you are this year's Spurs.

I never liked the Spurs chances in this postseason (not that I thought they would lose to Memphis!). The fact that they won 61 games in the regular season was a miracle--one of Popovich's best coaching jobs ever. But they were never going to be a postseason match for the better clubs. Duncan turned 35 this week. When a big man ages, he can lose it quickly. Very quickly. Add to that the fact that the other "bigs" on the SA roster aren't very big at all. McDyess is old and hasn't been a good leaper for years. Matt Bonner will play hard, but he seems more of a 6'7 guy than his actual 6'10. DeJuan Blair couldn't get off the bench in this series. Blair is the Spurs top backup C and PF, but he plays smaller than his 6'7 (which is a generous listing). It got so bad for the Spurs that Popovich gave significant minutes to Tiago Splitter, the Brazilian project who barely sniffed the court during the regular season. Pop was simply desperate for some size to try to slow down the Memphis parade to the rim. He probably would have played Swen Nater if the big Dutchman had been available.

In the post-Robinson years, Duncan was still so dominant that the Spurs could get away with average players alongside him. They won titles with the likes of Rasho Nesterovic, Nazr Mohammed and Fabricio Oberto riding shotgun with Duncan. Everything went through Duncan, and nobody could stop him.

Now, age and mileage have caught up. Last night in Memphis officially marked the end of the Duncan Dynasty. It was an incredible run. Having followed the Spurs since I was a kid (and since they were in the ABA), I never thought I would see them win a championship. Duncan delivered four. It had to come to an end at some point. This is that point.

Duncan has another year left on a big contract. It's likely he'll play next season (if there is a next season), but the title-winning window has closed. Duncan will go down in history as one of the ten greatest players the Association has ever seen. But in this Memphis series, Duncan was just another guy. Zac Randolph was the alpha-male.

In the Duncan era, I've never seen a team make the Spurs work harder on both ends of the floor than Memphis did in this series. Ever. To hell with "small ball"--if Tim Duncan had been 25 instead of 35, the Spurs would have won the series in five games. That's how much a dominant big man means to a team. But, time marches on, and Duncan's march has slowed down to a crawl--and thus all around him slows down, too. The Duncan Dynasty is dead. Long live The Big Fundamental.

Jess
05-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Hear, hear.

TheManFromAcme
05-01-2011, 11:17 AM
:tu

good read

Heck, a 2008 Spurs squad would have crushed this memphis team or at worst 6 games.

Warlord23
05-01-2011, 11:20 AM
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. And the other thing that becomes immediately obvious is that the Spurs need to start over. Play their young guys, get lottery picks, scout and draft well and plan for a 2015/16 revival.

TheManFromAcme
05-01-2011, 11:27 AM
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. And the other thing that becomes immediately obvious is that the Spurs need to start over. Play their young guys, get lottery picks, scout and draft well and plan for a 2015/16 revival.

that's actually realistic :tu

the underlying positive with the Spurs is still having Buford in the FO
Same guy who brought you Manu and I believe the initial scout of Tony.

Assman
05-01-2011, 11:54 AM
Vaginal slice.

TheManFromAcme
05-01-2011, 11:56 AM
:wtf

SenorSpur
05-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Couldn't have said it better. Oh but wait, sure I could, by asking the simple question, "what was Pop thinking?"

mexicanjunior
05-01-2011, 01:44 PM
Vaginal slice.

Born Born...

Harry Callahan
05-01-2011, 03:17 PM
One error in that column (I think). Didn't Tim know down three or four bankers on Gasol in Game 5? Not that it matters now.

Miller is the only Spurs fan in the Dallas media. The rest of them are jealous of SA's titles (often at the expense of the soon to be fishin Mavies).

DirkISaCocLuvinPuSSy
05-01-2011, 07:11 PM
it had to end sooner or later, Duncan is SA hero forever and provided some of the best entertainment a sports fan could ask for whatever happens next I'll always be a Spurs fan. Thx to D Rob and Tim, the best role models a kid could have. Appreciate what we witness these last couple of decades because even if we get better or even win another championship it won't be at the level Duncan did it.

rr2418
05-01-2011, 07:45 PM
One error in that column (I think). Didn't Tim know down three or four bankers on Gasol in Game 5? Not that it matters now.

Miller is the only Spurs fan in the Dallas media. The rest of them are jealous of SA's titles (often at the expense of the soon to be fishin Mavies).


Yep, you're right! TD did bank three or four on Gasol. I thought those banks kind of set the tone for the rest of the game. Pop kinda turned back the clock! I thought or hoped we might see that bank shot in gm 6. The Grizz was just better!

pawe
05-01-2011, 09:13 PM
Bigs in the NBA are like RBs in the NFL, when they go on a decline, they slide down hard. GG TD!

Kamala
05-01-2011, 11:03 PM
It was a hell of a run. I have the championship dvds to show my kids of one of the best big men to play the game.

Fireball
05-02-2011, 08:26 AM
Bigs in the NBA are like RBs in the NFL, when they go on a decline, they slide down hard. GG TD!

NBA bigs, running backs and Richard Jefferson

will_spurs
05-02-2011, 08:33 AM
One error in that column (I think). Didn't Tim know down three or four bankers on Gasol in Game 5? Not that it matters now.

He did, facing up Gasol, in the 1st quarter of Game 5. I thought he had finally found the asnwer.

Pop rewarded him by nailing him to the bench for the whole 2nd quarter.

wildbill2u
05-02-2011, 09:01 AM
As Miller pointed out, Duncan and Gasol had about equal stats. So Duncan wasn't a total waste against one of the best young--and improving--big men in the league.

Miller correctly pointed out that the Spurs no longer have ANY quality size on the front line to work with Duncan and his skills are now eroded to the point where he simply can't defend two positions at once.

That's why Pop's crazy decision to stay with the Blair Witch lineup during the regular season instead of developing Splitter paved the way for the cruel end to the season.

jsandiego
05-02-2011, 09:28 AM
#LongLiveTheBigFundamental

The "Duncan window" is closed insofar as he is not the superstar we can rely on to carry us to a title. That doesn't mean our championship window is closed. He's still a top-10 defender in the paint, and we could contend again if we had another big down low.

Kareem extended his career as a quality piece of the 80s championship Lakers teams in 1987-1988, although not the superstar of the team. The current Celtic mix was big and won the title in 2008 without a dominant post player, but great bigs that could defend the paint. Duncan is this piece for us; but we need (and have needed) a 2nd big next to him.

We still have an in-his-prime Tony Parker, and Manu the miracle worker, along with Duncan who can protect the rim. Pieces can still be added to make this work. We've had an unbelievable 14 year run, and it's worth extending the run another year to try and make it work.

SpurOutofTownFan
05-02-2011, 09:38 AM
:pop: we are just going to go out and play

Sean Cagney
05-02-2011, 02:10 PM
Good :lmao

One day when LA loses this dude will not be on the board anymore talking :lol:lol

SpurSpurSpurs
05-02-2011, 04:43 PM
We know Stern will let them do the trade. :lol

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