CHI vs. ATL - GM 2 sponsored by the NBA MVP

[NewJerSpur]

And yes, EVERYONE is welcome, lol.

:corn:

[LakerHater]

Was looking for the Game Thread...

[NewJerSpur]

:tu

[LakerHater]

Is Rose gonna play?

[NewJerSpur]

Is Rose gonna play?

Pretty sure, X-Rays came back negative and he said during his presser yesterday that the ankle was feeling fine and he was able to get in some work at practice. Even if he woke up feeling crappy, with everything that's at stake I can't see him missing this one.

Where is Hitman out this mofo btw?

[NewJerSpur]

Props D-Rose.

[Spur-Addict]

Couldn't get COrnelison to do the anthem tonight eh? Either that, or he was deemed bad luck LOL

[LakerHater]

The intro is pretty cool!!!

[NewJerSpur]

Couldn't get COrnelison to do the anthem tonight eh? Either that, or he was deemed bad luck LOL

:lol:lmao

That run is over.

[NewJerSpur]

Dick Stockton name mixup count in effect.

[LakerHater]

Is this camera man new??!??

[NewJerSpur]

Nice pumpfake by Horford.

[LakerHater]

Hawks strike 1st!

[Spur-Addict]

Al with the little fade away

[Spur-Addict]

LOL Boozer

[Jelloisjigglin]

Are the fans booing Boozer? Or are they saying Booozee? Probably the former i can imagine.

[Spur-Addict]

Nice block by Deng

[LakerHater]

They give game balls in the Association?

[NewJerSpur]

Rose bringing the floater back that disappeared in the 1st round.

[NewJerSpur]

Wonder if Bogans is given more minutes to try and contain Johnson even if it's at the expense of Korver's shooting?

[NewJerSpur]

Josh Smith has to stay away from those shots, even if he is open on the break....his main job is to get to the rim at all costs in those instances.

[Jelloisjigglin]

Just heard Hinrich is probably out for the series? Tough break

[Spur-Addict]

Wonder if Bogans is given more minutes to try and contain Johnson even if it's at the expense of Korver's shooting?

I think you have to give Korver minutes. But if Korver doesn't produce, and gets killed by Crawford, then you have to sit him. Crawford was getting wherever he wanted for the most part when Korver was on him.

[Spur-Addict]

You need people to stretch the court for Rose.

[Jodelo]

Stupid shot by Smith!

[NewJerSpur]

I think you have to give Korver minutes. But if Korver doesn't produce, and gets killed by Crawford, then you have to sit him. Crawford was getting wherever he wanted for the most part when Korver was on him.

Good point, which kills Chicago when he can't offset his suspect defense with his deadly jumper coming off of screens.

[NewJerSpur]

Didn't see a foul there, but if you're Chicago it's good to see Rose foregoing the weak jumpers early.

[Spur-Addict]

Didn't see a foul there, but if you're Chicago it's good to see Rose foregoing the weak jumpers early.

I agree

[NewJerSpur]

With the deep positioning Noah gets and the iso opportunities other teams give the guy defending him, if he could develop some sort of offensive game on the block it would take a ton of pressure off of Deng and Rose.

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks moving the ball better than I've seen thus far in the playoffs.

[NewJerSpur]

Bad decision by Rose leaving his feet with nowhere to go and nice job of spacing on defense by Atlanta limiting his outlet options.

[Spur-Addict]

With the deep positioning Noah gets and the iso opportunities other teams give the guy defending him, if he could develop some sort of offensive game on the block it would take a ton of pressure off of Deng and Rose.

I could see him putting a hook in his game. He has steadily improved each year. He put the work in to put muscle on etc

[NewJerSpur]

I could see him putting a hook in his game. He has steadily improved each year. He put the work in to put muscle on etc

Can definitely see the bulk he's add on. Good thing is too, at least he's always going for every rebound even his which is like insurance when he throws up something that has no chance of going in :lol.

[NewJerSpur]

Shots like that by Crawford will either keep the Bulls in the game (when missing) or pile on and bury Chicago (when making).

[Spur-Addict]

Can definitely see the bulk he's add on. Good thing is too, at least he's always going for every rebound even his which is like insurance when he throws up something that has no chance of going in :lol.

:lol

I just don't see him putting in a turn around jumpshot, or anything like that. Every now and then you'll see him drop an up and under though.

[NewJerSpur]

MVP for 3.....had to do it.

[NewJerSpur]

:lol

I just don't see him putting in a turn around jumpshot, or anything like that. Every now and then you'll see him drop an up and under though.

Agreed. At least he's more patient than Blair is right now.

Also like the high-high/mid-low action the Hawks have added to their offense this game where they have Josh setup around/behind the arc, a wing below the FT line and another big around the rim.

[NewJerSpur]

Still no Korver......interesting. And they've got Rose defending Crawford which he wasn't doing in game 1, even before the ankle was sprained.

[NewJerSpur]

Better shot by Crawford coming off of a screen in rhythm.

[NewJerSpur]

Looks like Thibs is also having his guards pressure the ball early trying to force the Hawks to get into their sets earlier than they normally like to.

[NewJerSpur]

Gibson ballhawking......no pun intended.

[NewJerSpur]

Korver sighting. Got to see who he's going to check.

[Spur-Addict]

Agreed. At least he's more patient than Blair is right now.

Also like the high-high/mid-low action the Hawks have added to their offense this game where they have Josh setup around/behind the arc, a wing below the FT line and another big around the rim.

Any structure is good for them :lol


Still no Korver......interesting. And they've got Rose defending Crawford which he wasn't doing in game 1, even before the ankle was sprained.

Korver just got in. 0-2. Let's see how his D works out LOL

[lefty]

Is this camera man new??!??


Nice pumpfake by Horford.

Couldnt resist :D

[NewJerSpur]

When Horford isn't in there, it's a different bal game on the boards for the Hawks.

[Spur-Addict]

They put him on Teague

[NewJerSpur]

Josh Smith has to give that up.

[Frenzy]

I'm surprised noah doesn't pump his chest at ever complete pass.

[NewJerSpur]

They put him on Teague

I was going to say I guess that's safer (on his ankles, lol) but when you lose sight of him and leave him open for jumpers not-so-much. His jumper is still off and he isn't getting clean looks it seems.

[NewJerSpur]

I'm surprised noah doesn't pump his chest at ever complete pass.

This is only his 1st year around Boozer....give it time, lol.

[Frenzy]

This is only his 1st year around Boozer....give it time, lol.

dam bro u a post whore. Reaching for the stars huh..

[NewJerSpur]

Boozer over the back, Rose's ankle looks good given his burst.

[NewJerSpur]

dam bro u a post whore. Reaching for the stars huh..

Everybody's got to have something to shoot for.....just coasting forthe time being though. :toast

[Spur-Addict]

Where's Collins???

[NewJerSpur]

Good question? He did good work in the 1st game on both ends of the floor. Maybe now that Horford isn't in as much foul trouble they're comfortable going smaller and leaning more on Zaza.

[LakerHater]

WOW, those IncrediBULLS!!!http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/8.gif

[Spur-Addict]

Bad call on Smith

[Bill_Brasky]

Josh Smith has had two bad calls on him now.

[NewJerSpur]

Smith was doing better in both games as a facilitator waiting to hit guys coming off of screens, etc. When he's trying to create his own offense it doesn't seem to go as well.

[NewJerSpur]

Where's Collins???

There you go.

[Spur-Addict]

Good question? He did good work in the 1st game on both ends of the floor. Maybe now that Horford isn't in as much foul trouble they're comfortable going smaller and leaning more on Zaza.

That's exactly what's going on but they need to go big.

[LakerHater]

WHAT!!!!?

No IncrediBULLS!?!?

[NewJerSpur]

Well, if Korver can't make the jumper at least he's hustling for the looseballs. Boozer should be screaming at himself for not knowing that the ball carrier was closest to him off of that screen.

[Spur-Addict]

Why is Noah practicing form without the ball on the line which he does not use??? LOL

[NewJerSpur]

Why is Noah practicing form without the ball on the line which he does not use??? LOL

:lol

[NewJerSpur]

Damn, you could tell that was WAY outside of Rose's range...he tried to give the jumper a little extra kick.

[Bill_Brasky]

lol Noah yelling "gimme that shit!!!" every time he goes up to block a shot.

[Spur-Addict]

Chicago D the stroy of the first half

[LakerHater]

Love this cameraman.... looking for chix!!

[NewJerSpur]

Bulls in better shape than Game 1 and they are dictating the tempo on both ends. Have to see if Atlanta finds creative ways to get Crawford and Johnson going or if they just take it upon themselves to do so in the 2nd half.

[Red Hawk #21]

Bulls played lockup defense in that 1st half. We need to get some stops and get out in transition in the 2nd half.

[LakerHater]

Oh man, that lady is way too hott for that bald guy!!

[NewJerSpur]

lol Noah yelling "gimme that shit!!!" every time he goes up to block a shot.

LOL, the Boozer effect.

[LakerHater]

Man, check that girl out!!

I cant do that on a rope & there she is doin it on a drape!!

[LakerHater]

That chick is more enjoyable than the game!!!!

[NewJerSpur]

2nd half coming up.

[Red Hawk #21]

Vamos Hawks...

[NewJerSpur]

Nice cut by Deng/pass by Noah.

[NewJerSpur]

Noah with the dumb foul.

[Red Hawk #21]

Jj!

[Red Hawk #21]

Marvin!

[NewJerSpur]

Boozer still telling people to block the shot after the fact.

[Red Hawk #21]

Come on Hawks...

[NewJerSpur]

Johnson starting to get going again like he did in the 2nd half of game 1. Like the contact Bogans is putting on him to at least challenge the shots.

[Red Hawk #21]

JJ really needs to pass.

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks offense looks like it's running solely through JJ to start and the ball movement doesn't look as crisp as it did in the 1st quarter.

[NewJerSpur]

2nd time Smith has gone for the spin and lost the ball out of bounds.

[Red Hawk #21]

TRADE Josh Smith!

[NewJerSpur]

TRADE Josh Smith!

:lol

If he focuses his energy more on the defensive side and rebounding he'd be that much more productive/efficient but he feels like he's obligated to score most times they put the ball in his hands on offense.

Bogans lighting it up.

[Red Hawk #21]

Fuck, we're playing right into their hands smh

[LakerHater]

Damn, thats gotta be GAME!!

[LakerHater]

check out these fat guys!!!!!!

[Red Hawk #21]

:lol

If he focuses his energy more on the defensive side and rebounding he'd be that much more productive/efficient but he feels like he's obligated to score most times they put the ball in his hands on offense.

Bogans lighting it up.

You're right but everyone's been saying this for years now. The kid's never gunna learn. :downspin:

[Killakobe81]

Bulls have this, this series is actually pretty boring outside of Joe Johnson when he is hot.

Rose needs to put his MVP stamp on this game.

[LakerHater]

i bet Inside the NBA puts Barkley's face on one of these fat guys!!

[NewJerSpur]

This is where milking the clock hurts the Hawks, when they're down double digits and the offense is stagnated, but whe they're up big like they were in the last game they can afford to get off late shots and hopefully get long rebounds if they miss and force the opposition to do more on the offensive end to make up for the deficit, even if it means rushing the offense.

[Red Hawk #21]

Err, coach we're not in a great position.

[Red Hawk #21]

Good drive Teague.

[NewJerSpur]

Eva Mendes=good television

[NewJerSpur]

Nice push by Teage, better decision by Smith.

[Red Hawk #21]

Good play Smoove.

[NewJerSpur]

Rose still launching 3's that barely make it over the rim rather than probing the lane with only one defender on him and hardly anyone else on that side of the floor.

[NewJerSpur]

Deng going Pippen (bank).

[Red Hawk #21]

Great Pass, Al!

[NewJerSpur]

Nice pass by Horford and nice job of moving without the ball for Josh.

[LakerHater]

Nice pass!

[Red Hawk #21]

Now, if we can just get a few stops and push tempo...

[Bill_Brasky]

Rose is pulling a Bonner in these playoffs as far as his 3pt shot is concerned.

He's been pretty good at everything else though.....just not what I'd expect from an MVP.

[NewJerSpur]

Rose is pulling a Bonner in these playoffs as far as his 3pt shot is concerned.

He's been pretty good at everything else though.....just not what I'd expect from an MVP.

Hitman brought it up during the Pacers series, but dude gets lazy on offense for some reason. I know you can't go 100 mph everytime down on offense, but if no one can stay in front of you when you're going 60 why not exploit that?

[Killakobe81]

If hawks can push it to 6 or 7 without Hinrich, mad props to the Hawks.
If they win, wow just wow.

[NewJerSpur]

Kurt Thomas sighting, no Korver again.

[Killakobe81]

damn, Hawks needed that. great move ... no finish by Crawford.

[Red Hawk #21]

Get that shit out!

[NewJerSpur]

Kurt can still knock that down with the best of 'em.

[LakerHater]

Kurt thomas!!!

[Red Hawk #21]

Fuck

[Frenzy]

So what I miss...:lol

Doesn't smith always wear a headband?

[Red Hawk #21]

So many missed ft's

[NewJerSpur]

Good defense by the Hawks pressing up.

[NewJerSpur]

Rose still leaving his feet with nowhere to go with the ball.

[Killakobe81]

Get that shit out!

Hey Redhawk, real talk ...
Besides a healthy Hinrich, what do you think your team needs most?

A true upgrade at center that moves Horford to PF full-time? Can Josh be good enough at SF to move him there if they get that?

or

A top level Chris paul/Dwill type PG?

Isn't Dwight from ATL? Any rumors about dwight wanting to go home?

[NewJerSpur]

Damn this is a low-scoring game, lol. Nice boxout by Smith.

[Red Hawk #21]

Great play by Teague.

[NewJerSpur]

Still a game, especially with Crawford/Johnson on the floor. Expect Rose to try to take over and do more of what he did on the Bulls' previous possession.

[Red Hawk #21]

If not for our missed ft's and some stupid shots we'd be right in this game. Let's go all out in the 4th.

[NewJerSpur]

If not for our missed ft's and some stupid shots we'd be right in this game. Let's go all out in the 4th.

Props for hanging in with your boys, as usual. :toast

[rayjayjohnson]

atlanta making the conference finals would say everything that needs to be said about the leastern conference

[rayjayjohnson]

Props for hanging in with your boys, as usual. :toast

true, props to red hawk for sticking with it.

[NewJerSpur]

Rose might play the entire 4th imo.

[Red Hawk #21]

Hey Redhawk, real talk ...
Besides a healthy Hinrich, what do you think your team needs most?

A true upgrade at center that moves Horford to PF full-time? Can Josh be good enough at SF to move him there if they get that?

or

A top level Chris paul/Dwill type PG?

Isn't Dwight from ATL? Any rumors about dwight wanting to go home?

I haven't heard anything about Dwight wanting to come home. I think we have a good team, but we need a strict coach. Some of these guys play like they're at a local park at times. We're solid at the PG spot though with Kirk and Jeff Teague, and JJ/Crawford can also play at the 1. I expect Teague to have a breakout season next year. We're good at every spot but we need to put everything together.

[NewJerSpur]

Rose with another unnecessary launch.

[Red Hawk #21]

Keep shooting 3's, MVP.

[NewJerSpur]

Wow.

[Red Hawk #21]

Teague!

[Bill_Brasky]

Det nigga Rose needs to play within the system. He's trying to do too much.

[NewJerSpur]

korver sighting.

[NewJerSpur]

They don't call him "4th Quarter Korver" for nothing.....or is that just me?! LOL.

[Red Hawk #21]

EAD Korver.

[Capt Bringdown]

Stinky basketball - boring!

[LakerHater]

IncrediBULLS!!!

[NewJerSpur]

IncrediBULLS!!!

It's back......until the Hawks go on another run, lol.

[LakerHater]

It's back......until the Hawks go on another run, lol.
All 4 cams now!!

[NewJerSpur]

I didn't know anything about Teague coming into this series, but with him and Hinrich in the backcourt the Hawks may have a pretty bright future at the point.

[Red Hawk #21]

Selfish fucking basketball.

[rayjayjohnson]

lol stockton called him david rose.

[rayjayjohnson]

damn noah's fts and jumpshot is ugly

[LakerHater]

lol stockton called him david rose.
Wasnt sure if I heard it right!

[NewJerSpur]

lol stockton called him david rose.

:lol

[Bill_Brasky]

That selfish 1on5 display was.......special....

Then he comes down and gives a good feed....do that consistently and you win this game.

Rose just quit shooting 3s bro!!!

[NewJerSpur]

Rose and Smith shooting the other team back into it.

[LakerHater]

Derrick Rose -20 point 6 rbs 9 assists

[Red Hawk #21]

Bulls want it more.

[NewJerSpur]

Chicago's too big right now. Hawks have to get Horford and maybe Collins back in the game to be compete on the boards.

[Red Hawk #21]

Just pass the fucking ball smfh

[NewJerSpur]

Good defense by Chicago, doubling on the dribble then backing off to cutoff the passing lane when the dribbler picks the ball up.

[LakerHater]

IncrediBULLS!!!!

[024]

rose 8-23, trying to outdo kobe's 6-24.

[Spur-Addict]

What did I miss?

[Killakobe81]

Redhawk one more question ...how come Teague got no "run" ... especially when Bibby was still there? He could of spelled him some more ...I like teague have watched him since his ACC days ...probably not a long-term starter, but as a back-up he is pretty good.

[LakerHater]

What did I miss?
IncrediBULLS!

[NewJerSpur]

What did I miss?

-Rose going back and forth between doing what he's best at (driving) and shooting contested shots from out of his range

-Atlanta's offense is struggling but the defense is keeping them in the game

[Red Hawk #21]

Yes!

[NewJerSpur]

Better shot by Rose.

[Red Hawk #21]

Come on Hawks, I know we can get a few more stops.

[NewJerSpur]

Jannero Pargo in suit on bench sighting. 2008 seems like lightyears ago.

[Killakobe81]

I haven't heard anything about Dwight wanting to come home. I think we have a good team, but we need a strict coach. Some of these guys play like they're at a local park at times. We're solid at the PG spot though with Kirk and Jeff Teague, and JJ/Crawford can also play at the 1. I expect Teague to have a breakout season next year. We're good at every spot but we need to put everything together.

OK thanks, fair points. I havent seen them much the past two seasons love their talent and athleticism. I would love to see Horford at PF ...



WOw teague, like I said, I liked that guy in college.

[Frenzy]

Is it me or did the announcer get all excited for nothing about rose losing the ball right before that time out..

[Red Hawk #21]

Fucking moron.

[024]

lmao johnson. with the bad defense and then turnover

[NewJerSpur]

Bulls trapping the hell out of JJ.....Teague's going to have to take on even more of the scoring load.

[Killakobe81]

Bad overplay on Deng, and a worse pass from JoeJ ...followed by a forced shot by JoeJ

[NewJerSpur]

Is it me or did the announcer get all excited for nothing about rose losing the ball right before that time out..

It's what Dick Stockton does.

[Spur-Addict]

Thanks for the updates.

[024]

how are the bulls not whipping these hawks?

[Bill_Brasky]

Luol Deng has been great this series tbh

[NewJerSpur]

Matador defense by the Hawks right now.

[Capt Bringdown]

Hawks 35%
Bulls 38%

I love defense, but this is like watching a junior high JV game.

[024]

hawks offense consists of one guy dribbling nonchalantly beyond the 3 pt line while the rest of the team daydreams.

[Red Hawk #21]

Fuck you Joe Johnson, fucking ball stopper. Fuck You Josh Smith you fucking low IQ bum who never learned how to shoot. Fuck you Larry Drew for not making adjustments.

[NewJerSpur]

Korver's not delivering like he was in Indy, and Atlanta's defense has paid better attention to him than the Pacers did, but at least the attention he's garnering is creating opportunities for other teammates.

[Killakobe81]

Hawks 35%
Bulls 38%

Lebron and Wade are laughing ... licking their lips,TBH.

[NewJerSpur]

That just might do it.

[Spur-Addict]

Game

[NewJerSpur]

Nice pass.

[davethedope]

fucking Hawks couldn't even keep it close. So boring.

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks, got what they came for: HCA. Now they have they have to play more disciplined like they did in Game 1 even though the raucous home crowd is going to tempt them to take the 1st shot available.

[Frenzy]

Shouldn't they take out rose. We know what happen last time.

[Red Hawk #21]

Whoever wins this round is gunna end up getting skullfucked by the Heat or Celtics anyway tbh

[Red Hawk #21]

Hawks, got what they came for: HCA. Now they have they have to play more disciplined like they did in Game 1 even though the raucous home crowd is going to tempt them to take the 1st shot available.

They can't play disciplined. This is a team full of people who think they're on the playground.

[NewJerSpur]

Props again to Red Hawk, sticking with his team just like Romsey. Series on.

[NewJerSpur]

They can't play disciplined. This is a team full of people who think they're on the playground.

:lol

[Bill_Brasky]

Hang in there Red Hawk, this series is far from over.

[Killakobe81]

Hawks, got what they came for: HCA. Now they have they have to play more disciplined like they did in Game 1 even though the raucous home crowd is going to tempt them to take the 1st shot available.

Great post. I like the way you "see the game" and actually focus on ball in game threads. There is two little of that on here, most nights TBH.

Props. :toast

[Killakobe81]

Hang in there Red Hawk, this series is far from over.

I agree Hawks playing with house money. Game 3 is HUGE. Hawks win the pressure on the Bulls (and Rose) becomes huge.

[davethedope]

Whoever wins this round is gunna end up getting skullfucked by the Heat or Celtics anyway tbh

Celtics aren't shit. People need to get over them. That wasn't that great a team to begin with. Sure, they got fucked last year by Stern, but they
had chances to take the series and tanked.

[rayjayjohnson]

heat will skullfuck them tho

[Capt. Obvious]

They can't play disciplined. This is a team full of people who think they're on the playground.
Hooray, it's another series of who can screw up less. Also, Rose should not have gotten the M-V-P chants at the end of the game. He's played like trash for most of the playoffs.

[NewJerSpur]

Great post. I like the way you "see the game" and actually focus on ball in game threads. There is two little of that on here, most nights TBH.

Props. :toast

All good KK, repsect man. Just throwing my views out there and trying to show a little love to a few series that normally might not get any, tbh. Always love the back and forth no matter who's involved.

[Capt. Obvious]

Celtics aren't shit. People need to get over them. That wasn't that great a team to begin with. Sure, they got fucked last year by Stern, but they
had chances to take the series and tanked.
The Celtics may not be great, but it these two games are how the Bulls and Hawks are going to play for the rest of the playoffs, then even Boston would crush them both if given the opportunity.

[Red Hawk #21]

Thanks guys, it's just frustrating to watch guys hold the ball for 10 seconds, take 6 Jabsteps and then shoot a fadeaway or highly contested jumper. That's bailing out the defense. Why not pass the ball and get better shots? Why not attack and try to get to the FT line? Sometimes I don't understand this team. We play better at home, but we're gunna need ball movement if we want to win.

[Capt. Obvious]

Thanks guys, it's just frustrating to watch guys hold the ball for 10 seconds, take 6 Jabsteps and then shoot a fadeaway or highly contested jumper. That's bailing out the defense. Why not pass the ball and get better shots? Why not attack and try to get to the FT line? Sometimes I don't understand this team. We play better at home, but we're gunna need ball movement if we want to win.
Both teams are stuck at this point. The Hawks will continue to be a jump-shooting team without enough ball movement, and Chicago will continue to look like shit on offense if Rose doesn't step up.

[Killakobe81]

All good KK, repsect man. Just throwing my views out there and trying to show a little love to a few series that normally might not get any, tbh. Always love the back and forth no matter who's involved.

I feel ya. I may get in some back and forth ...but I dont troll, and I stand by my views even though I could be wrong it's all subjective anyways.

And yes, of course the next game and the Heat game will get the press but I just love ball and talking ball ...that is why I come here. The forum used to be better when i first joined. And yes I know some of it is do to my Lakers brethren "trolling" and the counter trolls bashing Kobe, Lakers etc. But there used to be so much better NBA talk on here ...ahh well. Still better than being on Lakers site all the time ...

[NewJerSpur]

I feel ya. I may get in some back and forth ...but I dont troll, and I stand by my views even though I could be wrong it's all subjective anyways.

And yes, of course the next game and the Heat game will get the press but I just love ball and talking ball ...that is why I come here. The forum used to be better when i first joined. And yes I know some of it is do to my Lakers brethren "trolling" and the counter trolls bashing Kobe, Lakers etc. But there used to be so much better NBA talk on here ...ahh well. Still better than being on Lakers site all the time ...

We all get caught up in the fandom aspect of the game and some of the other things that come with it (which prompts reactionary comments from everyone at some point), but it all boils down to bball at the end of the day even with everything else involved. That's still there and it'll keep the site growing into what it's become I think.

[LakerHater]

"David Rose"

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