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The Batman
05-05-2011, 12:52 PM
Neal with it :lmao

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 12:54 PM
O & Forever!

The Batman
05-05-2011, 12:54 PM
O & Forever!

Kobe - 5
Duncan - 4

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 12:55 PM
Kobe - 5
Duncan - 4


Kobe: 5

Dirk: O

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 12:56 PM
Kobe: 5

Dirk: O

‎"shhhhhhh" -Dirk Nowitzki 5/4/11, Staples Center

The Batman
05-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Kobe: 5

Dirk: O

Dirk

http://abreakingnews.com/newsimages/For-Game-2-For-The-Lakers-It-Boils-Down-To-Dirk-Nowitzki-And-The-Bench.jpg

stretch
05-05-2011, 12:58 PM
if they win it all this year, Dirk should without question be considered the 2nd best PF ever. of course, people wont, because people are ignorant, but oh well.

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 01:00 PM
if

:lmao

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:03 PM
Kobe 5

Dallas 0

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:05 PM
Kobe 5

Dallas 0

Kobe - Bitch
Kool - Faggot

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:07 PM
Kobe - Bitch
Kool - Faggot


Your Mama Complies

Your Daddy Watches

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:11 PM
Your Mama Complies

Your Daddy Watches

The Lakers' demise

Your vagina cries

BlackSwordsMan
05-05-2011, 01:12 PM
I'm batman hear me roar
as I rip through your anal virginity door

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:23 PM
The Lakers' demise

Your vagina cries

Koolaid's Big Pole

In Batman's Asshole

lefty
05-05-2011, 01:23 PM
He could be if he played any kind of defense

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:24 PM
The Lakers' demise

Your vagina cries


Koolaid Sticks

Batman Splits

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 01:24 PM
Koolaid Sticks

Batman Splits


:lmao

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:27 PM
Koolaid Sticks

Batman Splits

Koolaid sits, while taking a piss

lefty
05-05-2011, 01:27 PM
Neal with it :lmao
So are you excited about fighting Bane in TDKR?

Can't wait :hungry:

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:29 PM
Koolaid sits, while taking a piss


Koolaid cums on Batman's tongue....

BlackSwordsMan
05-05-2011, 01:30 PM
fag

lefty
05-05-2011, 01:30 PM
feggets

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Koolaid sits, while taking a piss


Batman's dick is the size of a Clit :lol

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:32 PM
Koolaid cums on Batman's tongue....

I won't call you "Kool", because you can't get laid,
Your last post just confirms your faggot ass is gay

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:35 PM
I won't call you "Kool", because you can't get laid,
Your last post just confirms your faggot ass is gay


Kool is tha King that got you lookin up now open your mouth as I piss in my cup....

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:44 PM
Kool is tha King that got you lookin up now open your mouth as I piss in my cup....

Why are you obsessed with fucking a man?
You're the ONLY bitch who pisses out THAT much sand
Clean out that vag girl, you should at least give a damn
Oh shit, how did I forget you're from PAKISTAN

Fpoonsie
05-05-2011, 01:45 PM
if they win it all this year, Dirk should without question be considered the 2nd best PF ever. of course, people wont, because people are ignorant, but oh well.

Agreed. (shtick aside)

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:47 PM
Why are you obsessed with fucking a man?
You're the ONLY bitch who pisses out THAT much sand


so you insult men by calling yourself a man...bend ova bitch and watch me do it with no hands....

cesare borgia
05-05-2011, 01:51 PM
if they win it all this year, Dirk should without question be considered the 2nd best PF ever. of course, people wont, because people are ignorant, but oh well.

1x

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 01:51 PM
Batman study long study wrong...let me know when you tired of me kicking your ass

The Batman
05-05-2011, 01:58 PM
Batman study long study wrong...let me know when you tired of me kicking your ass

Kickin' my ass? LOL that's funny
You can't even make a bet with V-Bookie money
You'd welch on that too, ya whitewaterin fuck
How many dicks do you suck just to make a buck?

Koolaid_Man
05-05-2011, 02:48 PM
You spit game like u got a big clit bring ya ass Batman and let me hammer that shit…
Fucking with Kool makes you holler and yelp...Imma fuck Batman til he’s calling Robin for help.

mavsfan1000
05-05-2011, 03:09 PM
Dirk is the best shooting forward of all-time. Now a real power forward is Karl Malone. Now that's how you man up that position.

024
05-05-2011, 03:15 PM
dirk is a great player. he just suffered like lebron. while his teammates were definitely more talented than lebron's cavs, they were mentally weak. dirk did his best to carry them but, like lebron, ultimately failed. now that cuban finally got tyson chandler, see how dramatic a difference he makes. tyson is a good center but hardly a legitimate second option. dirk still has no legitimate second option, all he needed was his teammates to be mentally tough. he has always been a top 5 player since 2005.

z0sa
05-05-2011, 03:17 PM
Dirk just needs a ring to be #2 all-time

stretch
05-05-2011, 03:18 PM
Dirk is the best shooting forward of all-time. Now a real power forward is Karl Malone. Now that's how you man up that position.

You are such a fucking dumbass.

lefty
05-05-2011, 03:26 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201101/110110.07.jpg

ElNono
05-05-2011, 03:27 PM
Manu > Dirk

Killakobe81
05-05-2011, 05:27 PM
IF Dirk can at least get 2 or 3 rings he has a case ...because he would have to go through Miami to do it.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Dirk is the best shooting forward of all-time. Now a real power forward is Karl Malone. Now that's how you man up that position.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lFarI2kWd3o/TaHzUFXyblI/AAAAAAAAKdU/tubP4wLm2D8/s1600/running_of_the_bulls.jpg

http://factchecked.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/alaskan-30cm-brushed-nickel-fan.jpg

http://www.anniemayhem.com/blog%20pics/1000thPost.jpg

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 05:40 PM
IF Dirk can at least get 2 or 3 rings he has a case ...because he would have to go through Miami to do it.

0 chance he'd catch Duncan but he could definitely be #2.

The list of great players in history, at the Power Forward position, is way shorter than any other position in history.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 05:42 PM
The list of great players in history, at the Power Forward position, is way shorter than any other position in history.

:lol which is why spurfans are so eager to say he's a 4.

DMC
05-05-2011, 05:49 PM
Malone + Dirk = 0 rings

Big Shitty = 4 rings

DMC
05-05-2011, 06:17 PM
ring argument is overrated
And in the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Funny, we don't consider best golfer without looking at wins, titles, all that.

The ring is the greatest factor. There are others, but without winning a ring, players are severely handicapped in terms of legacy. MJ without a ring is Lebron.

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 06:28 PM
ring argument is overrated

No. There is nothing else.

frodo
05-05-2011, 07:04 PM
dirk be da #2 best PF without doubt mayne, malone be tha #1 of all time tho retired w/o a ring (larry bird considered a SF obviously)

Bito Corleone
05-05-2011, 07:13 PM
let me know when you tired of me kicking your ass
:lol You're losing this back and forth with him by a long shot. He's verbally bending you over, and you just keep going on and on about wanting to fuck a man.

jag
05-05-2011, 07:51 PM
if they win it all this year, Dirk should without question be considered the 2nd best PF ever. of course, people wont, because people are ignorant, but oh well.

Wow

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 07:56 PM
0 chance he'd catch Duncan but he could definitely be #2.

The list of great players in history, at the Power Forward position, is way shorter than any other position in history.

This. Outside of Duncan (who lets be honest won half of his championships with him at C and Horry at PF in the 4th quarter), PF is filled with guys who could never get over the hump as their team's #1 option (Barkley, Malone, Dirk, etc.).

Normally I consider stretch a giant homer, but 1 championship won by Dirk with his pissball supporting cast IMO puts him ahead of all power forwards not named Duncan, for no reason other than he doesn't have stiff competition.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:07 PM
This. Outside of Duncan (who lets be honest won half of his championships with him at C and Horry at PF in the 4th quarter), PF is filled with guys who could never get over the hump as their team's #1 option (Barkley, Malone, Dirk, etc.).

Normally I consider stretch a giant homer, but 1 championship won by Dirk with his pissball supporting cast IMO puts him ahead of all power forwards not named Duncan, for no reason other than he doesn't have stiff competition.

I like Dirk and have even argued with others on here about how good he really is to continue carrying this team. But it's hard to consider him in even the top 3 because of his inability to play both ends of the floor. I absolutely despise KG, but there's no way I take Dirk over KG in this argument. Malone didn't play much defense, but he was hard nosed and physical. And even Malone looks good defensively next to dirk.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:10 PM
I like Dirk and have even argued with others on here about how good he really is to continue carrying this team. But it's hard to consider him in even the top 3 because of his inability to play both ends of the floor. I absolutely despise KG, but there's no way I take Dirk over KG in this argument. Malone didn't play much defense, but he was hard nosed and physical. And even Malone looks good defensively next to dirk.

Who would you rather close out a game, Dirk or KG?

jag
05-05-2011, 08:14 PM
Who would you rather close out a game, Dirk or KG?

That's not even debatable. But there's more to it than that.

I'd rather 2004-2008 Kobe close out games than 2004-2008 Duncan, but that doesn't mean I'd rather build a team around Kobe.

Proxy
05-05-2011, 08:14 PM
This. Outside of Duncan (who lets be honest won half of his championships with him at C and Horry at PF in the 4th quarter), PF is filled with guys who could never get over the hump as their team's #1 option (Barkley, Malone, Dirk, etc.).

Normally I consider stretch a giant homer, but 1 championship won by Dirk with his pissball supporting cast IMO puts him ahead of all power forwards not named Duncan, for no reason other than he doesn't have stiff competition.

I support this statement.

IMO he is already #2 though, behind Duncan and in front of Malone, KG, and others...

He has to be one of the hardest players in league history to defend... similar to prime Shaq, but in different fashion. His unstoppable offense makes up for his mediocre defense, and out of the top PFs ever, he has had the worst teams to carry.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:18 PM
That's not even debatable. But there's more to it than that.

I'd rather 2004-2008 Kobe close out games than 2004-2008 Duncan, but that doesn't mean I'd rather build a team around Kobe.

With both at their primes.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:20 PM
I guess it depends on what you value.

I still think defense wins Championships. It's the reason the Spurs have those titles. It's the reason they probably won't win anymore for a while. It's the reason the Mavs are winning right now. Tyson Chandler and Kidd's defense. You gotta be able to carry your team on both ends of the floor.

If you want to only consider offense, then there's no reason to talk about Dirk being the 2nd best PF. Forget PFs, Dirk is obviously one of the 5 best offensive players to ever play the game. There's never been a player with his skill set.

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:26 PM
Who would you rather close out a game, Dirk or KG?

Neat argument, tbh, imho.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:28 PM
I'd def. start a team with 2004 KG over 2007 Dirk, but if we're talking legacies and how each one would be viewed, Dirk winning a ring this year with Jason Terry as the 2nd best player trumps anything KG has ever done.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:28 PM
Neat argument, tbh, imho.


remember that one time you said something off the wall like manu > Dirk?

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:30 PM
remember that one time you said something off the wall like manu > Dirk?

Yeah, it was Manu's career > Dirk's career.

Who would you rather have close out a game Shaq or Ray Allen?

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:30 PM
He probably still believes Manu > Dirk. Those Argentinians are batshit crazy.

badfish22
05-05-2011, 08:31 PM
:lol would you look at AF. With the gd soccer signature after The Shame.

If this don't beat it all.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:31 PM
Saying Manu's career > Dirk's career is like saying Tim Tebow's career > Dan Marino's career.

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:32 PM
:lol would you look at AF. With the gd soccer signature after The Shame.

If this don't beat it all.

That's not God, that's Jesus.

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 08:33 PM
:lol Manu > Dirk

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:33 PM
It's a surprise he hasn't made a ZBO > Dirk thread considering he's always looking for somebody to put up against Dirk. The German makes his panties twist in a weird way.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:34 PM
It's a front for the relationship Argentinians have had with a certain group of Germans in the past.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:34 PM
I'd def. start a team with 2004 KG over 2007 Dirk, but if we're talking legacies and how each one would be viewed, Dirk winning a ring this year with Jason Terry as the 2nd best player trumps anything KG has ever done.

Yeah, it trumps anything KG has ever done, but it doesn't change their careers. It doesn't change their weaknesses and how they will be remembered. Dirk, for all his ability, only plays one side of the floor. He's also a 7-footer that has come as close as possible, but has never been able to grab 10 rpg in a season.

If dirk rebounded and played D, he'd mave multiple rings. Duncan, KG and Malone (for the most part) maximized their talent and effort on both ends of the floor over the course of their respective careers. Same can't be said for Dirk.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:36 PM
When I saw DAF's first post in here, I just knew he was going to fuck up this thread. Nice job, bitch

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 08:36 PM
It's a front for the relationship Argentinians have had with a certain group of Germans in the past.

:lol

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:36 PM
Dirk has played on both ends of the floor for years now. This isn't 2003.

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:37 PM
Saying Manu's career > Dirk's career is like saying Tim Tebow's career > Dan Marino's career.

Yeah, multiple Eurolegue, Olympic and NBA chamionships while beign the go to guy (or close to it) = a College trophy.

But don't change the subject, I'm here to discuss Dirk > Duncan, KG, Malone, etc.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:39 PM
:lol Dirk doesn't rebound

He averages over 10 per game in the playoffs. For as much better of a rebounder KG is, he only musters .4 more per game than Dirk in the post season :lol

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:39 PM
Yeah, multiple Eurolegue, Olympic and NBA chamionships while beign the go to guy (or close to it) = a College trophy.



Spic ball is about on the same level as college ball. Glad to see your coming around.

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:40 PM
When I saw DAF's first post in here, I just knew he was going to fuck up this thread. Nice job, bitch

It's not my problem that I make Mavsfans assholes sore, I just noted how stupid Dirk4mvp argument was. And I would appreciatte if you don't call me a bitch.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
Dirk averaged 7 rpg the past two seasons.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
It's not my problem that I make Mavsfans assholes sore, I just noted how stupid Dirk4mvp argument was. And I would appreciatte if you don't call me a bitch.

:lmao in what way? Saying stupid shit constantly is not how that happens, retard.

badfish22
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
If dirk rebounded and played D, he'd mave multiple rings. Duncan, KG and Malone (for the most part) maximized their talent and effort on both ends of the floor over the course of their respective careers. Same can't be said for Dirk.

KG got a ring because he joined two other all-stars and made a team with a talent level that Dirk hasn't even gotten close to enjoying. Not because KG "Maximized their talent effort on both ends of the floor".

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
And I would appreciatte if you don't call me a bitch.

The rest of the world would have appreciated if a country didn't give Nazi officers a safe haven and they had to face charges for the brutal war crimes they committed. Things don't always work out.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:42 PM
It's not my problem that I make Mavsfans assholes sore, I just noted how stupid Dirk4mvp argument was. And I would appreciatte if you don't call me a bitch.

I'm sure you would.

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Dirk averaged 7 rpg the past two seasons.

and averages 10-11 boards in the playoffs..

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:43 PM
Dirk averaged 7 rpg the past two seasons.

.4 less RPG in the playoffs than KG for their postseason careers.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:43 PM
KG got a ring because he joined two other all-stars and made a team with a talent level that Dirk hasn't even gotten close to enjoying. Not because KG "Maximized their talent effort on both ends of the floor".

That's why I haven't included KG's ring as part of the argument.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 08:43 PM
Spic ball is about on the same level as college ball. Glad to see your coming around.

:tu the racist slur goods

jag
05-05-2011, 08:46 PM
.4 less RPG in the playoffs than KG for their postseason careers.

Over their careers: 10.7 to 8.4.

That's basically what I've been trying to say. Dirk could be a much better rebounder and defender but unlike KG he hasn't maximized his talent on that end of the floor.

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm sure you would.

Does it make you feel good inside to insult people hat you never saw in your life and is lots of miles away from you?

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 08:47 PM
does it make you feel good inside to insult people hat you never saw in your life and is lots of miles away from you?

8

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 08:48 PM
if they win it all this year, Dirk should without question be considered the 2nd best PF ever. of course, people wont, because people are ignorant, but oh well.

WTF is this shit?

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:48 PM
Does it make you feel good inside to insult people hat you never saw in your life and is lots of miles away from you?

Does it make you feel good to sympathize with the people responsible for the most notorious genocide in the history of mankind?

badfish22
05-05-2011, 08:49 PM
As if things couldn't be a bigger clusterfuck right now, in walks 'PG.

Christ.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Does it make you feel good inside to insult people hat you never saw in your life and is lots of miles away from you?

Yes, sometimes it does. Especially if it's directed at someone who consistently shitty's up threads.

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 08:49 PM
WTF is this shit?

you were wrong about the Mavs ;)

jag
05-05-2011, 08:50 PM
WTF is this shit?
:rollin


:corn:

DAF86
05-05-2011, 08:52 PM
Yes, sometimes it does. Especially if it's directed at someone who consistently shitty's up threads.

Well, good for you. Usually when I insult somebody is 'cause I want to fight him, that's why I try to not do it when I know that can't happen.

P/S: I would love to see links to all those threads I've been shitting up.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 08:53 PM
As if things couldn't be a bigger clusterfuck right now, in walks 'PG.

Christ.

Jesus, here we go.

I know where this thread is headed. A back and forth between Oden/Orton/some other Mavfan vs Jag/DPG for 3 pages with a racial slur here and there.

then some dumbass like LkrFan will pop in and post something retarded like "Rasheed Wallace>>>>>_Irk" and then the thread will go downhill (will probably involve some copy and paste)

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Over their careers: 10.7 to 8.4.

That's basically what I've been trying to say. Dirk could be a much better rebounder and defender but unlike KG he hasn't maximized his talent on that end of the floor.

Dirk has made tremendous strides on both sides of the ball since entering the league.

Sean Cagney
05-05-2011, 08:55 PM
NO.... He is up there though.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Eh, lately I've been on the same side as DPG in arguments involving the Mavs. I just don't think the title of "2nd best PF of all time" is that impressive given who's competing for it.

It's most likely an irrelevant hypothetical as I refuse to believe a team with Jason Terry as its 2nd option is winning a title.

jag
05-05-2011, 08:56 PM
Jesus, here we go.

I know where this thread is headed. A back and forth between Oden/Orton/some other Mavfan vs Jag/DPG for 3 pages with a racial slur here and there.

then some dumbass like LkrFan will pop in and post something retarded like "Rasheed Wallace>>>>>_Irk" and then the thread will go downhill (will probably involve some copy and paste)

:lol

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 08:56 PM
Eh, lately I've been on the same side as DPG in arguments involving the Mavs. I just don't think the title of "2nd best PF of all time" is that impressive given who's competing for it.


Ya, that was my point. If Dirk wins a title I'm not sure how he's not the frontrunner for 2nd best PF ever.

There's Barkley, Malone, Garnett then who's next? Worthy? After that Chris Webber starts entering the discussion :lol

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Jesus, here we go.

I know where this thread is headed. A back and forth between Oden/Orton/some other Mavfan vs Jag/DPG for 3 pages with a racial slur here and there.

then some dumbass like LkrFan will pop in and post something retarded like "Rasheed Wallace>>>>>_Irk" and then the thread will go downhill (will probably involve some copy and paste)

I might just take the gif route, tbh.


http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1329176/lil-b-the-basedgod-o.gif

Proxy
05-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Dirk averaged 7 rpg the past two seasons.
Dallas doesn't call on Dirk to rebound

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 08:58 PM
As if things couldn't be a bigger clusterfuck right now, in walks 'PG.

Christ.

elo chum.


you were wrong about the Mavs ;)

Kind of. Mavs are balling and I have clearly said Dirk has been a beast this year. I picked the Mavs to win the first round (albeit in 7 games), and I did think LA would beat DAL (which is yet to be decided although Dallas being up 2-0 shocks me). I really wanted to see DAL vs LA and I also said Dirk would shit on Pau.

I did say Dallas couldn't win a title as currently constructed because they lack a second option. We will see if I am right as I don't think they beat BOS or MIA and even LA is not done yet.

But they are playing much better than I thought they would overall even if the end result I predicted will not be much different.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 08:59 PM
Barkley, Malone, Garnett, Dirk and McHale (which is a reach) are the ones I'd think of as top 5 after Duncan (I consider worthy a SF). After that it gets pretty gross.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:00 PM
Jesus, here we go.

I know where this thread is headed. A back and forth between Oden/Orton/some other Mavfan vs Jag/DPG for 3 pages with a racial slur here and there.

then some dumbass like LkrFan will pop in and post something retarded like "Rasheed Wallace>>>>>_Irk" and then the thread will go downhill (will probably involve some copy and paste)

Hey, I bring the basketball take goods. You may not agree with my methods, but the discussion is basketball related.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:00 PM
Ya, that was my point. If Dirk wins a title I'm not sure how he's not the frontrunner for 2nd best PF ever.

There's Barkley, Malone, Garnett then who's next? Worthy? After that Chris Webber starts entering the discussion :lol

There aren't a lot of people in there. I was just taken aback by Stretch's amnesia. Like he forgot Malone, Barkley and KG existed.

There isn't much to argue about. Like I said, it depends on what you value. Unless he knocks out b2b titles, I think Dirk is on the outside looking in when you consider top 3 PFs of all time. Mostly due to his defense.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:01 PM
IF Dirk wins a ring this year, I can see the argument for putting him second. Not saying I would put him there, but it won't be absurd if he does get that elusive Championship.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:02 PM
Malone is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. I'd take Dirk over him even if the Mavs lost this series and he had another choke on his record.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:02 PM
Dirk has made tremendous strides on both sides of the ball since entering the league.

Tremendous is a gross overstatement when considering both ends. Did he improve for a period of time on defense from being a complete turnstile? Yes. Was he ever really good on that end? No.

But to his credit he played passable defense for a while and his offensive game more than offset his deficiencies on that end.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:04 PM
Ya, that was my point. If Dirk wins a title I'm not sure how he's not the frontrunner for 2nd best PF ever.

There's Barkley, Malone, Garnett then who's next? Worthy? After that Chris Webber starts entering the discussion :lol

Well lets start with this: No matter what Dirk does, he will never be considered better than Duncan (don't care if you want to call him a center and cite the tail end of his career).

He will also never surpass KG.

So at best, and I mean at best, he can be considered number 3. That is not knocking Dirk. Even as a Spur fan, I am a big Dirk supporter and even bangs-magee (Oden) knows it.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:05 PM
Malone is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. I'd take Dirk over him even if the Mavs lost this series and he had another choke on his record.

I hate Malone and I agree. But keep in mind the caliber of front court players he had to compete against, as well as the ones he had as teammates. Winning games with Greg Ostertag isn't any easier than winning games with Brendan Haywood. Malone never had a Tyson Chandler.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:06 PM
Malone is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. I'd take Dirk over him even if the Mavs lost this series and he had another choke on his record.

This is approved. Proceed.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:06 PM
Where's this Oden(bangs mcgee) picture that's floating around?

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:06 PM
So at best, and I mean at best, he can be considered number 3. That is not knocking Dirk. Even as a Spur fan, I am a big Dirk supporter and even bangs-magee (Oden) knows it.

Since you're so jelly, I can hook you up with my barber. I heard longer hair makes people look taller anyway, tbh.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:07 PM
Malone is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. I'd take Dirk over him even if the Mavs lost this series and he had another choke on his record.

in what sense is Malone over-rated? he was a monster on offense, a damn good defender, and his year-in year-out performance is unlike anything any other player achieved.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:08 PM
IMO, Duncan at #1 is obvious, KG and Dirk being the other 2 in the top 3 is also obvious in my book. Malone and Barkley IMO would struggle in the era of long and athletic power forwards Duncan, KG and Dirk play in.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:09 PM
in what sense is Malone over-rated? he was a monster on offense, a damn good defender, and his year-in year-out performance is unlike anything any other player achieved.

I stopped reading when you called Karl Malone a "damn good defender"

jag
05-05-2011, 09:09 PM
in what sense is Malone over-rated? he was a monster on offense, a damn good defender, and his year-in year-out performance is unlike anything any other player achieved.

The guy disappeared at some of the biggest moments in his career. No reason to go into it.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:11 PM
i've said it once and i'll say it again:

you guys vastly underrate karl malone and overrate duncan simply because of hardware and not their actual game. if not for jordan malone would have rang a couple times. put duncan in jordans rookie class and duncan never sniffs a ring either.

Those Jazz teams are overrated because they lose to the Jordan Bulls. The 1997-1998 Jazz wouldn't even make the conference finals in the modern day Western Conference. The 1997 and 1998 West was going through a transitional phase and was at an incredibly weak point.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:12 PM
Karl Malone in today's NBA would be Carlos Boozer with a little more scoring.

lol getting locked up by past-his-prime Dennis Rodman

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:12 PM
Since you're so jelly, I can hook you up with my barber. I heard longer hair makes people look taller anyway, tbh.

You don't see me defending my height, but I see you rush to the aide of your bangs quicker than Kool to his boyfriend.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:13 PM
i've said it once and i'll say it again:

you guys vastly underrate karl malone and overrate duncan simply because of hardware and not their actual game. if not for jordan malone would have rang a couple times. put duncan in jordans rookie class and duncan never sniffs a ring either.

Shhh, girl.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:13 PM
You don't see me defending my height, but I see you rush to the aide of your bangs quicker than Kool to his boyfriend.

Please. stretch has you on a string he yanks at any time about it.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:14 PM
Please. stretch has you on a string he yanks at any time about it.


"Bang" up response.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:15 PM
I stopped reading when you called Karl Malone a "damn good defender"

you just clearly don't know jack-shit about basketball, or at least, karl Malone. the dude was:
3× All-Defensive First Team (1997–1999)
All-Defensive Second Team (1988)

you know how many times Dirk and Barkley made the all-defensive team? Zero times.

so i stand by what i said. Malone was a monster on offense and damn good on defense.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:15 PM
Bangs are perfectly acceptable with certain haircuts. Wait, how long are we talking here?

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:16 PM
Karl Malone in today's NBA would be Carlos Boozer with a little more scoring.

lol getting locked up by past-his-prime Dennis Rodman

i think he would be more like Dwight Howard. but he would score more because he could shoot.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:17 PM
"Bang" up response.

http://i35.tinypic.com/33b0fwl.jpg

jag
05-05-2011, 09:17 PM
you just clearly don't know jack-shit about basketball, or at least, karl Malone. the dude was:
3× All-Defensive First Team (1997–1999)
All-Defensive Second Team (1988)

you know how many times Dirk and Barkley made the all-defensive team? Zero times.

so i stand by what i said. Malone was a monster on offense and damn good on defense.

Malone was physical on defense. He was never a good weak side defender and was at best a mediocre on-ball defender.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:18 PM
dennis rodman is one of the best defenders of all time and still would be today, don't thing that helps your cause any

:toast

look, we're arguing with some dipshits who don't seem to know anything about basketball before the year 2000.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:19 PM
Malone was physical on defense. He was never a good weak side defender and was at best a mediocre on-ball defender.

yeah, i'm going to trust your take on it more than the people who voted him onto those all-defensive teams, and also more than my own eyes, since i witnessed him playing.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:19 PM
i think he would be more like Dwight Howard. but he would score more because he could shoot.

:lmao

Proxy
05-05-2011, 09:20 PM
i think he would be more like Dwight Howard. but he would score more because he could shoot.

eh... I think the Boozer comparison is more accurate.

that dirty cunt wouldn't get away with the shit he did, in this modern era.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:20 PM
Look at the 1997 Western Conference. It only had four teams that won 50 games.

One team was the Lakers with Kobe in his rookie year and Shaq in his first season with LA. Not really a contender given how many new faces that team had.

The other team was the Sonics who were never that good to begin with.

The one team capable of putting up a fight with Utah was Houston, and they only lost to Utah because of the ass ramming Stockton gave their scrub ass point guard Matt Maloney. Malone played like shit in the 1997 playoffs.

If they late 90s Jazz lost to any other team in the finals, they'd be known as one of the weakest teams to ever make the finals.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:20 PM
yeah, i'm going to trust your take on it more than the people who voted him onto those all-defensive teams, and also more than my own eyes, since i witnessed him playing.

Marcus Camby won defensive player of the year in 06-07.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:21 PM
Bangs are perfectly acceptable with certain haircuts. Wait, how long are we talking here?

Bangs are acceptable, as in Oden's case. I am simply showing how Oden is not a sexually confident young male by using my powers of observation of his psyche.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:22 PM
i think he would be more like Dwight Howard. but he would score more because he could shoot.

lol

Not so subtle troll bads

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:22 PM
dennis rodman is one of the best defenders of all time and still would be today, don't thing that helps your cause any

late 90s Rodman at age 35 and 36 wasn't "one of the best defenders of all time". Quit revising history. Malone had 3 inches and 50 pounds on a guy who was way past his prime, you can't possibly come up with a legit excuse for Malone being frustrated by Rodman the way he was.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:23 PM
Bangs are acceptable, as in Oden's case. I am simply showing how Oden is not a sexually confident young male by using my powers of observation of his psyche.

Going Phil Jackson on dat ass.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:23 PM
i think he would be more like Dwight Howard

Minus 4 inches and freak athleticism?

jag
05-05-2011, 09:25 PM
Sexual confidence is underrated on this board.

resistanze
05-05-2011, 09:25 PM
lol Malone defense = elbowing niggas unconscious.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:25 PM
Now, in an attempt to show his male (false) bravado, he will piggy back another man's takes for what he perceives (though clearly intellectually dishonest) to be a "jab" that bothers me by referencing my height.

It's a classic case. I'm this close from bringing Dr. Lecter into the conversation.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:25 PM
:lol hair smack doesn't bother me in the least. The 8 months I worked at Target I was called JB at least 5 times a day.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Minus 4 inches and freak athleticism?

yep. Malone put up his gaudy numbers at a time when there were scores of talented big men. Howard puts up big numbers at a time when talented big men are few and far between.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:27 PM
Now, in an attempt to show his male (false) bravado, he will piggy back another man's takes for what he perceives (though clearly intellectually dishonest) to be a "jab" that bothers me by referencing my height.

It's a classic case. I'm this close from bringing Dr. Lecter into the conversation.

you've failed


lmao spurs

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:27 PM
:lol hair smack doesn't bother me in the least. The 8 months I worked at Target I was called JB at least 5 times a day.

It's not your fault.


It's. Not. Your. Fault.


Dirk is not the 2nd best PF of all time either.

This has been a tough day for you, but we have had a break through.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:28 PM
It's not your fault.


It's. Not. Your. Fault.


Dirk is not the 2nd best PF of all time either.

This has been a tough day for you, but we have had a break through.

I've never claimed such a thing.


You fail again.

Maybe you can throw your Kori is my aunt shtick to save yourself.

MavDynasty
05-05-2011, 09:29 PM
tbh odens hair is longer than mine imo

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:29 PM
yep. Malone put up his gaudy numbers at a time when there were scores of talented big men. Howard puts up big numbers at a time when talented big men are few and far between.

Malone put up his numbers whoring pick and rolls with John Stockton. Howard puts up his numbers primarily off isos on the block and put backs. Howard would put up freakishly good numbers in a gimmick Jerry Sloan system.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:29 PM
So you don't have bangs? If you do and you have ever responded to such things, I have succeeded.

I am glad to see you didn't let one bad decision (i.e. bangs) lead to another bad decision (agreeing that Dirk is the 2nd best PF)

jag
05-05-2011, 09:30 PM
JB pulls mad pussy, tbh. I can think of worse things to be called. Like an Arab.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:31 PM
Sorry Ghazi

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:31 PM
It's funny Jag, his only redeeming quality, he tries to scoff :lol Just bad decision making all around.

Again, God mad me short, I have no control over that. You literally, as a functioning adult chose that haircut :lol

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:32 PM
I am glad to see you didn't let one bad decision (i.e. bangs) lead to another bad decision (agreeing that Dirk is the 2nd best PF)

You're on record cosigning my hair. You fail again.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:33 PM
Ok, where is this picture?

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:34 PM
I guarantee Dwight Howard wouldn't get shut down by 36 year old Dennis Rodman

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:36 PM
You're on record cosigning my hair. You fail again.

I said it's acceptable, I didn't say I cosigned. You keep failing at saying I'm failing.

It's acceptable to wear Ed Hardy, but I wouldn't do it.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:36 PM
Tbh, DPG, those bangs could go a long way if you're fratting it up at The Grove at Ole Miss.

peskypesky
05-05-2011, 09:37 PM
Howard would put up freakishly good numbers in a gimmick Jerry Sloan system.

once again proving you know dick about basketball.

that "gimmick" system got him to the Hall of Fame, with two Finals appearances.

"One of the game’s most successful coaches at any level, Sloan is the only NBA coach to record 1,000 wins with the same franchise. He is one of only three coaches in NBA history to win at least 50 games in 10 or more seasons and for good measure he led the Jazz to 15 consecutive playoff appearances from 1988 to 2003."

maybe you don't know what the word "gimmick" means. you clearly don't know much about basketball.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:37 PM
Andrew bynum, now that's a different story.

tee, hee

:lmao yeah it is. He doesn't have 3 inches and 50 pounds on Bynum the way Malone has 3 inches and 50 pounds on Rodman. :lmao using that as a comparison.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 09:38 PM
I guarantee Dwight Howard wouldn't get shut down by 36 year old Dennis Rodman

http://www.hachisvertas.net/temp/gif/kobe_lol.gif

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:38 PM
once again proving you know dick about basketball.

that "gimmick" system got him to the Hall of Fame, with two Finals appearances.

"One of the game’s most successful coaches at any level, Sloan is the only NBA coach to record 1,000 wins with the same franchise. He is one of only three coaches in NBA history to win at least 50 games in 10 or more seasons and for good measure he led the Jazz to 15 consecutive playoff appearances from 1988 to 2003."

maybe you don't know what the word "gimmick" means. you clearly don't know much about basketball.

Jerry Sloan is a glorified Mike D'antoni. Anyone who doesn't buy into false hype agrees. He's been an offense first coach his entire career who's whored pick and rolls.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:38 PM
Tbh, DPG, those bangs could go a long way if you're fratting it up at The Grove at Ole Miss.

Hey, you have to do what you do to survive. I get that. I'm just about long-term success. If you coast by on your bangs, you won't learn anything.

Give a man some bangs, he bangs for a day. Teach a man to function with an adult male haircut and logic, he bangs for life.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 09:39 PM
i think he would be more like Dwight Howard. but he would score more because he could shoot.

you're doing a nice job of filling LkrFan's role tbh

jag
05-05-2011, 09:41 PM
You're really an unlikeable little shit no matter how smug you are in thinking that you're not.

This shit just got serious. Meet me behind Walmart serious.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:42 PM
Dude greg oden is probably one of the best scoffers on the entire forum.

It's funny how your shtick is basically taking the "I'm better than you" route with no actual basis every time and saying shit like "haha you're trying to scoff it's your only redeeming quality!" or like you always tell others "your basketball takes suck! db.comer!! hur dur!!"

You're really an unlikeable little shit no matter how smug you are in thinking that you're not.

You mean like someone who scoffs friends self imposed deaths only to act like he deserves sympathy for his own?

:lmao You're on my list! Just another one that gets butt hurt with everything I say!

It's also hilarious how you completely miss the boat on my comments :lol. My "he is scoffing his only redeeming quality" was in response to him saying he has been called JB on a few occasions. You dummy.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:42 PM
Tbh, DPG, those bangs could go a long way if you're fratting it up at The Grove at Ole Miss.

i'll never my shades on one of those necklaces.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:43 PM
what does taht have to do with it? ben wallace gave up a lot of size to plenty of the guys he shut down.

boiled down::

rodman >>>>>> bynum at defense

:lmao no. 36 year old Rodman isn't > Bynum on defense, especially when we're talking on ball 1 on 1 defense. Also, Ben Wallace was never a great one on one defender. He was a weakside help defender/shot blocker. That's why Detroit didn't become truly elite defensively till they brought Rasheed Wallace in to man the low post, so using him as your argument really doesn't help.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:43 PM
Dude greg oden is probably one of the best scoffers on the entire forum.

It's funny how your shtick is basically taking the "I'm better than you" route with no actual basis every time and saying shit like "haha you're trying to scoff it's your only redeeming quality!" or like you always tell others "your basketball takes suck! db.comer!! hur dur!!"

You're really an unlikeable little shit no matter how smug you are in thinking that you're not.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/297169/turiaflol-o.gif

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:44 PM
It's also funny how Oden likes me better than TC.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:45 PM
We're trying to talk bangs here, and Kyle's busy talking basketball with GNSF who sneaked his way into a bold name. And who's clearly living a gray lifestyle.

jag
05-05-2011, 09:47 PM
i'll never my shades on one of those necklaces.

:lol they're called Croakies, brah

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:48 PM
Tbh, DPG and I have already discussed a GNSF can be bolded. A poster like Bill_Brasky is a quality gray named Spurs fan, while someone like Rummpd or Fabbs is a bolded GNSF.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:49 PM
:lol they're called Croakies, brah

lol i know, that word just sounds dirty. You seem well versed in this type of thing.

IronMexican
05-05-2011, 09:50 PM
I can cook to this thread.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:50 PM
Tbh, DPG and I have already discussed a GNSF can be bolded. A poster like Bill_Brasky is a quality gray named Spurs fan, while someone like Rummpd or Fabbs is a bolded GNSF.

Yes. This is already established. GNSF, much like DB.COMER, is a generic name for a type of poster. It originates due to the likelihood the type of poster is a part of the literal name, but it's not always the case.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:51 PM
I can cook to this thread.

The talk about Justin Beiber is probably giving you some hard lumber

IronMexican
05-05-2011, 09:52 PM
Totally.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 09:53 PM
lol Lakers

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:53 PM
The entire point is: Being short is tough luck. Bangs is an unfortunate choice. This highlights how Dirk is not the 2nd best PF of all time regardless of what happens.

It does not explain TC's constant flip-flopping and BH'dness.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:53 PM
It's also funny how Oden likes me better than TC.

Tyson Chandler is that nigga.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:54 PM
Tyson Chandler is that nigga.

I know. I know.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:54 PM
oh my god based god

jag
05-05-2011, 09:54 PM
lol i know, that word just sounds dirty. You seem well versed in this type of thing.

If you're gonna bang a Phi Mu at Ole Miss you gotta be on your game, son.

And no, my game does not consist of Croakies and striped pants (I know you know what they're really called) I'm too mature for that. Shit's for freshman

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 09:54 PM
killing 2 birds with 1 stone here.

Z_ycuwKGOVw

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 09:57 PM
I wonder what NewJerSpur does on nights when there are no games.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 09:59 PM
Dirk is a bitch, and his pussy will get fucked in this series... again.

No. Regardless of what happens, Dirk is better than any single player in this series.

jag
05-05-2011, 10:00 PM
Rakaruva dying for some attention. I wonder what Raka does on nights when there are no new Naruto episodes.

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 10:00 PM
Dirk is a bitch, and his pussy will get fucked in this series... again.

Not one soul succeeds in shutting the figurative door on our particular team

Not one soul

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 10:00 PM
No. Regardless of what happens, Dirk is better than any single player in this series.

Best player on the courtPERIOD

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 10:03 PM
Dirk is a bitch, and his pussy will get fucked in this series... again.

‎"shhhhhhh" -Dirk Nowitzki 5/4/11, Staples Center

IronMexican
05-05-2011, 10:04 PM
Bieber song is straight fire son. My fucking cousin.

IronMexican
05-05-2011, 10:04 PM
Like it more than anything off Goblin, tbh.

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 10:05 PM
JaG's mom is probably 55+ years old. Disgusting.

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 10:06 PM
Like it more than anything off Goblin, tbh.

Goblin is a great album. I am 100% sure that /mu/ will love the album once they stop blindly hating it after being on OF's nuts for so long.

IronMexican
05-05-2011, 10:07 PM
It was okay. Picked up a lot in the second half. It's no MBDTF tbh

jag
05-05-2011, 10:08 PM
JaG's mom is probably 55+ years old. Disgusting.

easy, bro... easy

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 10:09 PM
It was okay. Picked up a lot in the second half. It's no MBDTF tbh

rofl you hated MBDTF when it came out. My point's been made.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 10:09 PM
It seems like Tyson is cooking up something special :lol

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 10:09 PM
easy, bro... easy

If anyone in his 30s expressed a desire to share naked photos with my mom, I'd consider him disgusting. Don't take it personally :lol

jag
05-05-2011, 10:11 PM
:lol he's 28, Asian, and loves him some Naruto. I considered him disgusting way before he talked about my mom naked

Kyle Orton
05-05-2011, 10:12 PM
:lmao

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 10:13 PM
:lol he's 28, Asian, and loves him some Naruto. I considered him disgusting way before he talked about my mom naked

There is photos of your mom naked, Jaggy?

Axe Murderer
05-05-2011, 10:18 PM
No one is going to remember this in a week, asshole.

Boiled down:::::

Dirk: (3+7)(5+5)/50

Kobe: ((4+9-7+6-3)/9)-1

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 10:19 PM
Boiled down:::::

Dirk: (3+7)(5+5)/50

Kobe: ((4+9-7+6-3)/9)-1

Kobe: 5

Dirk: O & Forever!

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 10:20 PM
Boiled down:::::

Dirk: (3+7)(5+5)/50

Kobe: ((4+9-7+6-3)/9)-1

I would bet that he can't figure that out within 20 minutes.

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 10:24 PM
I would bet that he can't figure that out within 20 minutes.

...you ain't gettin' that 500 smackers?

tee, hee.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 10:27 PM
Shouldn't you be discouraged from betting???:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

My stomach is hurting...:rollin

Why would someone who wins bets be discouraged :lol

Don't make me ghost you as well around here. You do realize I'm a mod? That has to hurt.

DPG21920
05-05-2011, 10:31 PM
Fuck you and your modism ways, little man.


Yeah, he mad.

Ghazi
05-05-2011, 10:36 PM
Kobe: 5

Dirk: O & Forever!

‎"shhhhhhh" -Dirk Nowitzki 5/4/11, Staples Center

Greg Oden
05-05-2011, 10:48 PM
on an unrelated note, lol harlemheat's avatar

BlackSwordsMan
05-05-2011, 10:49 PM
looks like lucy pinder but with smaller tits

Banzai
05-05-2011, 10:49 PM
Dirk is good know doubt..I may hate him when he plays great..but when he speaks after the game..he's a pretty chill guy.

djohn2oo8
05-05-2011, 10:53 PM
O & Forever!

That Kool's women count?

HarlemHeat37
05-05-2011, 10:54 PM
Dirk is good know doubt..I may hate him when he plays great..but when he speaks after the game..he's a pretty chill guy.

He has the best accent/voice in the NBA IMO..so sexy..

Giuseppe
05-05-2011, 10:55 PM
That Kool's women count?

Really, dj, that's it?:rolleyes

djohn2oo8
05-05-2011, 11:02 PM
Really, dj, that's it?:rolleyes

-1 and forever! :lol

HarlemHeat37
05-05-2011, 11:21 PM
QuQIwHSbmC4&########=1

Trainwreck2100
05-05-2011, 11:27 PM
lol HH gonna get banned nice tits though

DMC
05-05-2011, 11:39 PM
lol HH gonna get banned nice tits though
What tits? Oh up there... yeah.. those.

IronMaxipad
05-05-2011, 11:43 PM
It was okay. Picked up a lot in the second half. It's no MBDTF tbh

wat? The first half is fucking awesome