LMAO www.gutsycall.com

[DarrinS]

Look where it redirects.

http://www.gutsycall.com/

Given all the crap Clinton's taken for NOT getting OBL when given the chance, I don't see it as a gutsy call. It's a no-brainer.

[clambake]

it was a very gutsy call.

[DarrinS]

Why am I not shocked that http://www.barackobama.com is one of those rude websites that won't let you leave by hitting the back arrow?

[boutons_deux]

"Clinton's taken for NOT getting OBL when given the chance"

link?

does it compare with dubya losing OBL at Bora Bora?

[MannyIsGod]

Why am I not shocked that http://www.barackobama.com is one of those rude websites that won't let you leave by hitting the back arrow?

You are this stupid and you expect me to believe you have computer patents? Did you realize that by hitting the back button you're going back to the redirect? Do you also wonder why you never get anywhere when you're walking on a treadmill?

[TeyshaBlue]

You are this stupid and you expect me to believe you have computer patents? Did you realize that by hitting the back button you're going back to the redirect? Do you also wonder why you never get anywhere when you're walking on a treadmill?

:lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

Fucking magnets! How do they work?

[DarrinS]

You are this stupid and you expect me to believe you have computer patents? Did you realize that by hitting the back button you're going back to the redirect? Do you also wonder why you never get anywhere when you're walking on a treadmill?

lol, you got me there, weatherboy.

[clambake]

do you keep track of how many times you get killed in here?

[DarrinS]

do you keep track of how many times you get killed in here?


Do you keep track of how many times people ignore you?

[clambake]

Do you keep track of how many times people ignore you?

yes, you are at zero times.

[ChumpDumper]

DarrinS must've had high hopes for this thread.

[clambake]

just another thread where he lifts his skirt.

[ManuBalboa]

The more comical part of this is how Chump and Clam are able to keep doing what they do for years and years :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Do what? Post on a message board?

You are quite easily amused.

[Wild Cobra]

Why am I not shocked that http://www.barackobama.com is one of those rude websites that won't let you leave by hitting the back arrow?
Could it be a sign of authoritarianism?

[LnGrrrR]

Could it be a sign of authoritarianism?

:lmao

That's why no one creates a troll of you WC; you do too good a job of it yourself.

[Stringer_Bell]

"Clinton's taken for NOT getting OBL when given the chance"

link?

does it compare with dubya losing OBL at Bora Bora?

Wow, what a dummy liar on behalf of the VRWC! OBL was not "lost" in that situation, there was a strategic decision made not to engage him despite the intel and opportunity. Special forces was all up in that shit ready to go but were ordered to stand down. Quit lying for your corporate overlords!

[Lizard_King]

What's the point of this thread?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Look where it redirects.

http://www.gutsycall.com/

Given all the crap Clinton's taken for NOT getting OBL when given the chance, I don't see it as a gutsy call. It's a no-brainer.

I know, I still haven't forgiven the Cowboys from passing on Tom Brady..




sincerely,

hindsight 20/20

[TeyshaBlue]

I know, I still haven't forgiven the Cowboys from passing on Tom Brady..




sincerely,

hindsight 20/20

YOU LIE!



Really? The Cowboys passed on Brady? I didn't know that.:depressed

[lazerelmo]

:lol:lol gutsy call :lol:lol


Truman is rolling in his grave.

[ChumpDumper]

We must downplay Obama's role in bin Laden's killing at all costs.

[TeyshaBlue]

We must downplay Obama's role in bin Laden's killing at all costs.

Looks like he might've been the shooter!

http://www.dallasdigestforum.com/attachment.php?id=16310

[lazerelmo]

Michelle was the shooter. Barry drove the get away chopper. - Brennan

[ChumpDumper]

We must downplay Obama's role in bin Laden's killing at all costs.Sarcastic hyperbole counts.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't particularly think it was a gutsy call at all, but if this is the extent of the spin I'd gladly take it when compared to landing on a carrier with a god damn flight suit on.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't particularly think it was a gutsy call at all, but if this is the extent of the spin I'd gladly take it when compared to landing on a carrier with a god damn flight suit on.That wasn't a victory lap! Laying a wreath -- that's a fucking victory lap!

[LnGrrrR]

YOU LIE!



Really? The Cowboys passed on Brady? I didn't know that.:depressed

Every team passed on Brady at least five times, since he was picked in the 6th round.

[DarrinS]

I'd gladly take it when compared to landing on a carrier with a god damn flight suit on.


Never understood why that infuriates the left.

[clambake]

Never understood why that infuriates the left.

because he lied his way to war. try and keep up

[LnGrrrR]

I don't particularly think it was a gutsy call at all, but if this is the extent of the spin I'd gladly take it when compared to landing on a carrier with a god damn flight suit on.

Why not? Just curious.

[Nbadan]

because he lied his way to war. try and keep up

don't forget he threw over a trillion dollars at the MIC and we have gotten 0 return for our money....can you imagine if the Bush administration had thrown a trillion dollars toward alternative energy and fuel cell development instead....choices people, choices....

[ChumpDumper]

Never understood why that infuriates the left.The right is infuriated over Obama's wreath laying.

[MannyIsGod]

Why not? Just curious.

Gutsy implies you have an option. There was a risk of failure, but was Obama really going to pass on the opportunity to get Bin Laden? It would have been far riskier to pass on it.

Whats the worst that happens? He gets away? If the team dies or suffers casualties its not exactly 1979 and its in pretty much an active warzone so its not like the nation will go Carter on him.

Yeah, there was a risk of failure but it seems like a pretty obvious decision to make to me.

[MannyIsGod]

Never understood why that infuriates the left.

The right is absolutely incensed with Obama taking credit for the Obama operation yet you don't see how landing on a carrier with a flight suit on pisses people off? Really? What do you think Bush was trying to look like, Darrin?

When you add in the fact that we were in Iraq for nearly a decade after that stunt, its pretty god damn obvious to anyone with a brain why that would be offensive.

[LnGrrrR]

Gutsy implies you have an option. There was a risk of failure, but was Obama really going to pass on the opportunity to get Bin Laden? It would have been far riskier to pass on it.

Whats the worst that happens? He gets away? If the team dies or suffers casualties its not exactly 1979 and its in pretty much an active warzone so its not like the nation will go Carter on him.

Really? You don't think screwing up the plan to capture Osama bin Laden is pretty much an instant death knell for a 2012 campaign? Republicans would have a field day with that. "Obama is incompetent!" etc etc

[ChumpDumper]

I believe the other option would have been missiles or bombs.

[MannyIsGod]

Really? You don't think screwing up the plan to capture Osama bin Laden is pretty much an instant death knell for a 2012 campaign? Republicans would have a field day with that. "Obama is incompetent!" etc etc

You don't think those same people would have had an even bigger field day if he didn't try?

[hitmanyr2k]

Really? You don't think screwing up the plan to capture Osama bin Laden is pretty much an instant death knell for a 2012 campaign? Republicans would have a field day with that. "Obama is incompetent!" etc etc

Republicans definitely would have had fun if the operation failed since they weren't really involved. They could go all out with criticism of Obama being incompetent and on top of that they would hammer home the point that some of his advisors were against the operation and he still didn't listen blah blah blah.

[LnGrrrR]

You don't think those same people would have had an even bigger field day if he didn't try?

How would they have known? Who would've told them?

[MannyIsGod]

You're kidding yourself if you think it wouldn't have gotten out that Obama passed on going after Bin Laden. It was a no brainer IMO. Obama really didn't have any other realistic option.

[LnGrrrR]

You're kidding yourself if you think it wouldn't have gotten out that Obama passed on going after Bin Laden. It was a no brainer IMO. Obama really didn't have any other realistic option.

It might've gotten out, but I doubt it would've during Obama's presidency. Even then, the source probably would've been questioned.

[Capt Bringdown]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dnZGffhx_ts/TcWklvYf7cI/AAAAAAAACFY/-K3pXGhFac8/s1600/codpiece2.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

It might've gotten out, but I doubt it would've during Obama's presidency. Even then, the source probably would've been questioned.

I think it would have been let out much sooner than that. The largest source of leaks is disgruntled members of the admin and not going after Bin Laden is going to cause people to disagree big time and then leak.

[hitmanyr2k]

You're kidding yourself if you think it wouldn't have gotten out that Obama passed on going after Bin Laden. It was a no brainer IMO. Obama really didn't have any other realistic option.

How do you figure it was a no-brainer? How exactly would it get out that Obama passed on going after Bin Laden if no one had any clue if he was really there in the first place? They had constant surveillance on that compound and no one had seen him. Up to the day Obama gave the order they still had no concrete evidence Bin Laden was there which is why some of his advisors were against giving consent for the raid. It was risky to give the go-ahead because it could have been a big clusterfuck if things didn't pan out right. Republicans not only would have jumped on it if it all failed but Pakistan probably would have shook their finger at the U.S. and got their word in as well.

[LnGrrrR]

I think it would have been let out much sooner than that. The largest source of leaks is disgruntled members of the admin and not going after Bin Laden is going to cause people to disagree big time and then leak.

I doubt someone would take a chance on leaking that info. That's national security. And as I said, even if leaked, it would probably be dismissed.

You never know, but I'd be surprised if THAT info got out. Only the key players probably knew about it, so an leak would come from a small pool of sources.

[MannyIsGod]

How do you figure it was a no-brainer? How exactly would it get out that Obama passed on going after Bin Laden if no one had any clue if he was really there in the first place? They had constant surveillance on that compound and no one had seen him. Up to the day Obama gave the order they still had no concrete evidence Bin Laden was there which is why some of his advisors were against giving consent for the raid. It was risky to give the go-ahead because it could have been a big clusterfuck if things didn't pan out right. Republicans not only would have jumped on it if it all failed but Pakistan probably would have shook their finger at the U.S. and got their word in as well.

Yeah I hear Americans really care about what Pakistan thinks. Its a no brainer to go after your best shot at Bin Laden. And nothing you've posted takes away from the fact this was the best shot at him. Anyone here think they would have passed?

[MannyIsGod]

I honestly don't understand the desire to name what is an obvious decision that the president should have made as gutsy. It would have been gutless has he passed on this, but that doesn't make this some special order. The president makes tough orders every day. Its his job.

[MannyIsGod]

Who here would have passed on going after him??

[boutons_deux]

"Who here would have passed on going after him??"

Repug Pres candidate McLiar said he wouldn't, and called Barry "naive" for Barry saying he would.

[LnGrrrR]

I honestly don't understand the desire to name what is an obvious decision that the president should have made as gutsy. It would have been gutless has he passed on this, but that doesn't make this some special order. The president makes tough orders every day. Its his job.

So... By going for it, it was the opposite of gutless, also known as...

Gutsy? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Its not an either or. I'll give you an example. Osama orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. Attacking civilians in such a way is undoubtedly gutless. That being said, NOT attacking civilians isn't gutsy. I don't wake up everyday thinking not murdering someone today is a gutsy call.

[LnGrrrR]

Its not an either or. I'll give you an example. Osama orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. Attacking civilians in such a way is undoubtedly gutless. That being said, NOT attacking civilians isn't gutsy. I don't wake up everyday thinking not murdering someone today is a gutsy call.

I know, I was just playing around. I still think that it was gutsy, because I don't think the info would've gotten out/been believed. *shrug*

[Marcus Bryant]

He could've ordered a drone strike instead.

He made the right call, which wasn't easy as there was an option with far less damaging consequences had it failed, and deserves credit for it.

[EVAY]

He could've ordered a drone strike instead.

He made the right call, which wasn't easy as there was an option with far less damaging consequences had it failed, and deserves credit for it.

This. purely and simply.

All the rest is sound and fury signifying....

[Nbadan]

It would have been much safer, politically, to do nothing at all....for many of the same reasons people never take chances at work...it was a gutsy call because to do nothing would have been what most people would do...

[hitmanyr2k]

I can't help but laugh looking at these clips now. As much as Hilary and McCain tried to twist his words Obama pretty much did what he said he'd do.

mYefHfokP44

ze_pG6Q62HA