So, is Kobe that much worse than last year?..

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol He is the same player as last year..he has actually played better than last year's playoffs, when you consider the level of competition..

Last year, after he won the title, NBA casual fans/Laker fans/NBA people/analysts/coaches continued to hype him up, strictly because he won the title, ignoring his performance..

This year, even though he's virtually the same player, the Lakers have been embarrassed in the 2nd round, and Kobe's stock is going to fall..

Further proves how much of a difference a supporting cast makes, and it further supports the argument that winning is extremely overrated, when making a ranking of players..

[Venti Quattro]

He's actually worse HH. Way worse.

[Spurtacus]

No. His ankle is at 50%. He'll bitch about the training staff once he's eliminated.

[lefty]

Bah

It's not easy to 3peat

He does seem to be a bit tired

2008 Olympic games, NBA Finals year after year; it takes a toll on your body

[DJ Mbenga]

he isnt that bad considering the miles he has logged. the other comparable guys have fallen off the face of the earth: duncan, kg, shaq. what killed the lakers was no 3pt spacing

[lefty]

And remember, Jordan had to take a 2 year break because he was mentally and phisically burned out

[crc21209]

Bah

It's not easy to 3peat

He does seem to be a bit tired

2008 Olympic games, NBA Finals year after year; it takes a toll on your body

+1. You can only force your body to do so much. I think they've said Kobe's played in about 75 playoff games the last 3 seasons combined, which pretty much adds up to an extra season....

[Giuseppe]

And remember, Jordan had to take a 2 year break because he was mentally and phisically burned out

And Stern suspended him.

[InRareForm]

Via @Hoopdata only 3 of Kobe's 65 FGA have come at the rim in this series.

all you need to know.

[Spurtacus]

And remember, Jordan had to take a 2 year break because he was mentally and phisically burned out

His father was murdered a month after the three peat.

[BRHornet45]

glorified T-Mac is all is he has ever been

[Giuseppe]

His father was murdered a month after the three peat.

& some insist that MJ's gambling addiction was complicit in that murder.

[Giuseppe]

glorified T-Mac is all is he has ever been

Left you dead in the ground.

ha, ha.

[ElNono]

Gasol ain't there to carry him...

[DMC]

& some insist that MJ's gambling addiction was complicit in that murder.

Some don't bathe.

[Giuseppe]

Gasol ain't there to carry him...

Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

[ElNono]

Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

Kobe couldn't win a playoff series either...

[HankChinaski]

Lack of depth along with an aging laker's squad is what it comes down to.

Welcome to our spurs dilemma.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe couldn't win a playoff series either...

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[Giuseppe]

Some don't bathe.

I was just making sure all assholes are checked.

[ElNono]

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

He still couldn't win a playoff series until Gasol and Shaq took him...

[Giuseppe]

He still couldn't win a playoff series until Gasol and Shaq took him...

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[mystargtr34]

Daddy: 3

Kobe: 2

[mystargtr34]

Daddy: 3

Kobe: 2

[Giuseppe]

Daddy: 3

Kobe: 2

No. Since the divorce:::

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[NewcastleKEG]

His numbers are significantly worse than last year AND he's not getting the same production from others. Bad combo


2009: 30.2, 5.3 boards, 5.5 assists
2010: 29.2, 6.0 boards, 5.5 assists
2011: 24.3, 3.4 boards, 3.3 assists

That's pretty significant downgrade

[DMC]

Kobe hasn't worsened or improved. He's the same. The team isn't as capable of winning despite him as they were.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kobe's numbers from last year were severely stat-padded vs. shitty defenses in Utah and Phoenix..

He shot 40% from the field against the only 2 top 5-10 defenses he played last year, Boston and OKC..

This year, he has played 2 top 5-10 defenses so far, and he's actually played pretty decently against both..he had an above average series vs. NO, and a pretty good series vs. Dallas..

He's the same player as last year, contrary to the belief of some..the only difference is that his supporting cast is worse, particularly Pau, which is reflected in the Lakers 2nd round exit..

[lefty]

His father was murdered a month after the three peat.

Yeah but he admitted that he started to feel burned out during the ECF vs the Knicks
Heck, he thought about taking a year off after the 92 Finals

[Giuseppe]

...then Stern insisted.

tee, hee.

[Pelicans78]

He's not getting it done in the 4th quarter either. Looks worn out.

[wanggi]

His worst thing on the court is Selfish, self-centered.

[Bill_Brasky]

...then Stern insisted.

tee, hee.

Boiled down, though:::::::

Jordan: 6
Kobe: 5

And that's having gone to college and taken 2 years off in his prime.

[Jt.ONE]

age catches up even with the best of 'em

aside from a few highlights kobe has gotten from attacking the rim, the man is just a jumpshooter now

[Jt.ONE]

Kobe's numbers from last year were severely stat-padded vs. shitty defenses in Utah and Phoenix..

He shot 40% from the field against the only 2 top 5-10 defenses he played last year, Boston and OKC..

This year, he has played 2 top 5-10 defenses so far, and he's actually played pretty decently against both..he had an above average series vs. NO, and a pretty good series vs. Dallas..

He's the same player as last year, contrary to the belief of some..the only difference is that his supporting cast is worse, particularly Pau, which is reflected in the Lakers 2nd round exit..


basically.

[Giuseppe]

Boiled down, though:::::::

Jordan: 6
Kobe: 5

And that's having gone to college and taken 2 years off in his prime.

But, Jordan is locked.

[DMC]

But, Jordan is locked.
Locked as the GOAT.

[Giuseppe]

Locked as the GOAT.

No. He's locked at 6. Kobe still has many years left. & he's not married to the Lakers. He'll hunt Jordan down no matter the uniform required.

[DMC]

No. He's locked at 6. Kobe still has many years left. & he's not married to the Lakers. He'll hunt Jordan down no matter the uniform required.

Kobe's rings will never make him the GOAT. He's already negated any chance of that with the post-Shaq pre-Pau years, giving up in the playoffs, tantrums, media outbursts, Colorado....

[Giuseppe]

Kobe's rings will never make him the GOAT. He's already negated any chance of that with the post-Shaq pre-Pau years, giving up in the playoffs, tantrums, media outbursts, Colorado....

All Bryants wants is the raw number (at least 7). He's wise enough, near psychotic enough to realize that that is enough. He cannot control the hum of debate. He can control the raw number and that is what he's hunting.

Sorta like Knight hunting the win record. He knew once he got it they'd denigrate it, but, that's on them, not him.

[DPG21920]

This defined Kobe's legacy and career. Nothing else will be remembered. It will only be that he was skunked the first time he met Tim and now that he lost to the Mavs when it was all on the line.

[peskypesky]

Locked as the GOAT.

yep

and its not the 6 rings alone that locks MJ as the GOAT. its not the two three-peats.

Bill Russell has more rings than MJ but no one calls him the GOAT.

here are some of the reasons MJ is the GOAT:

6-time NBA champion: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998 (all with Chicago Bulls)
6-time NBA Finals Most Valuable Player: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
6 NBA Finals appearances: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

5-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998

10-time scoring champion: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

3-time steals leader: 1988, 1990, 1993

3-time minutes leader: 1987, 1988, 1989

14-time NBA All-Star: 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2002, 2003

3-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1988, 1996, 1998[5]

1-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1987-88

11-time All-NBA selection:
First team: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
Second team: 1985

9-time All-Defensive selection:
First team: 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

NBA All-Rookie selection:
First team: 1985

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1985

2-time NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1987, 1988
Runner-up in 1985

7-time The Sporting News Most Valuable Player: 1987-88, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98

Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year: 1991

Ranked #1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 75 Players of All-time

Ranked #1 by ESPN Sportscentury's Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century

Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"

Selected in 1996 as member of two of the "Top 10 Teams in NBA History"
1991-92 Chicago Bulls (67–15; .817)
1995-96 Chicago Bulls (72–10; .878)

Two Olympic gold medals - USA: 1984, 1992

[Giuseppe]

All Kobe wants is the raw number (7), and he'll hunt it.

[DPG21920]

He had his chance and came up woefully short. That's just the truth. It was the biggest moment of his great career and he completely shit the bed.

[Giuseppe]

He had his chance and came up woefully short. That's just the truth. It was the biggest moment of his great career and he completely shit the bed.

Jordan is locked at 6. A fixed target for Kobe. & he'll hunt it.

Like Knight hunted Smith.

[DMC]

All Bryants wants is the raw number (at least 7). He's wise enough, near psychotic enough to realize that that is enough. He cannot control the hum of debate. He can control the raw number and that is what he's hunting.

Sorta like Knight hunting the win record. He knew once he got it they'd denigrate it, but, that's on them, not him.
So unless you are his cabin boy, why do you try to sell his misconceptions as fact? He will never be the GOAT.

[BanditHiro]

No. He's locked at 6. Kobe still has many years left. & he's not married to the Lakers. He'll hunt Jordan down no matter the uniform required.

so you are a kobe fan and not a laker fan?

[DPG21920]

Players don't recover from collapses like this. He had his chance to catch Jordan. It was the single biggest event the NBA would have ever witnessed. Kobe came up short and failed. Failed spectacularly. It's over. He defined his career in the biggest moment of it and it wasn't pretty.

[DMC]

All Kobe wants is the raw number (7), and he'll hunt it.
Yes he will try to win more championships. Thanks for that breaking news. Imagine a player trying to get more championships. It's Jordanesque.

[Giuseppe]

So unless you are his cabin boy, why do you try to sell his misconceptions as fact? He will never be the GOAT.

Bryant knows though that at 7 he can sit back and listen to to the din of debate and in his own mind he'll be convinced he is the GOAT. Kobe is not like "you" or I. He can get to 7, it's up to him. He's at the con. We're not. All we do is provide the din before, and after (if it comes to fruition). He cares only about the raw number.

He'll enter his house justified at 7.

[Giuseppe]

Players don't recover from collapses like this. He had his chance to catch Jordan. It was the single biggest event the NBA would have ever witnessed. Kobe came up short and failed. Failed spectacularly. It's over. He defined his career in the biggest moment of it and it wasn't pretty.

He's had other dismal failures. He rose outta the CO. catastrophe and got to 5. He's borderline sociopath. He'll continue to hunt.

[DMC]

Bryant knows though that at 7 he can sit back and listen to to the din of debate and in his own mind he'll be convinced he is the GOAT. Kobe is not like "you" or I. He can get to 7, it's up to him. He's at the con. We're not. All we do is provide the din before, and after (if it comes to fruition). He cares only about the raw number.

He'll enter his house justified at 7.

One huge factor detrimental to the legacy of Bryant is that he did not make his success against Bird, Magic, Barkley, Hakeem, DRob, Malone (for the most part)...

Who did he beat? Paul Pierce... Ray Allen... Old KG.... Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson... crew of nobodies by the time the rest retire.
20 years from now, Shaq will be remembered as a much bigger influence to the game than Kobe was. Kobe will be remembered as a franchise player on a team that had the power to bring in "help". Kobe needs help. Kobe + quality help = rings. You might argue that for Michael, but then Michael never played second fiddle to any "help".

[DPG21920]

Between Kobe completely withering in the biggest moment of his career and with his previous quitting, I'm sorry, it's over. There is no arguing otherwise.

[cobbler]

He had his chance and came up woefully short. That's just the truth. It was the biggest moment of his great career and he completely shit the bed.

This is why you cannot ever be taken seriously and are well, a fool.

First off. The Lakers are still playing.

Second, All you haters all year long bitch and whine. If Kobe only played team ball. If he only did this, If he only did that. ANd you all talked about MVPau ad naseum. Kobe has had a very good series. You can look at 12 other Lakers before Kobe in this one. Game one he shot a lot for 49% and played well. Game 2 he takes less shots for 49% and gets his teammates even more involved. 3rd game he had his most effecient game of the series. He has had some costly turnovers and a few blunders but by far has been the best and most consistent Laker out there. He has changed his game all 3 games trying to get his players to respond and only a few have. Shame on you.

Pau shit the bed. It's been seen by the entire country. It's been commented on by EVERYONE. And PJ showed you all who needed motivation and heart and even then nothing.

What a tool you are DPG. And the comeback with Kobe leading it will be shitting right where most your diarrhea resides. Your mouth.

[Giuseppe]

One huge factor detrimental to the legacy of Bryant is that he did not make his success against Bird, Magic, Barkley, Hakeem, DRob, Malone (for the most part)

That is outta his control. He's a professional. "That" never crosses his mind. That's why he's a professional.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Cobbler, don't cry, he wasn't being that serious..

[Giuseppe]

:lol Cobbler, don't cry, he wasn't being that serious..

You want Cobby to quit.

Uh, uh.

Luva & Kool won't either.

[DPG21920]

This is why you cannot ever be taken seriously and are well, a fool.

First off. The Lakers are still playing.

Second, All you haters all year long bitch and whine. If Kobe only played team ball. If he only did this, If he only did that. ANd you all talked about MVPau ad naseum. Kobe has had a very good series. You can look at 12 other Lakers before Kobe in this one. Game one he shot a lot for 49% and played well. Game 2 he takes less shots and gets his teammates even more. 3rd game he had his most effecient game of the series. He has had some costly turnovers and a few blunders but by far has been the best and most consistent Laker out there. He has changed his game all 3 games trying to get his players to respond and only a few have. Shame on you.

Pau shit the bed. It's been seen by the entire country. It's been commented on by EVERYONE. And PJ showed you all who needed motivation and heart and even then nothing.

What a tool you are DPG. And the comeback with Kobe leading it will be shitting right where most your diarrhea resides. Your mouth.

Cobbler, are you mad chum? I am simply stating what is very obvious. Kobe not only is a quitter (see the Suns series), he is a choker who completely melted down in the single biggest moment of his career.

I really do admire you and the way you stick by your team. How do you feel about Cul when he says it's over after game 2?

By Kobe not playing the right way all year, he set himself and his team up for this failure. It's on him and him alone.

If Kobe doesn't lead the comeback and they lose, will you write an apology to me for taking out your anger towards me instead of where it belongs? Kobe's mouth.

[cobbler]

:lol Cobbler, don't cry, he wasn't being that serious..

hahahahahaha

Not a problem. All in the fun for me.

They are not out yet

[DMC]

That is outta his control. He's a professional. "That" never crosses his mind. That's why he's a professional.

It crosses your mind. He's not here to debate it. This is about your misconception that Kobe getting another ring will put him on par with Jordan.

[DPG21920]

This isn't fun for you Cobbler. You don't have to lie to kick it. You are enraged. You are sad. You are in dismay.

Kobe is not a professional either. Quitters aren't professionals.

[jjktkk]

All Bryants wants is the raw number (at least 7). He's wise enough, near psychotic enough to realize that that is enough. He cannot control the hum of debate. He can control the raw number and that is what he's hunting.

Sorta like Knight hunting the win record. He knew once he got it they'd denigrate it, but, that's on them, not him.

Kobe is just too old to carry a team now. His only hope is that is for Bynum to be a viable #1 option, so Kobe can slide into that #2 option. I doubt Kobe would be willing to do that though.

[Giuseppe]

It crosses your mind. He's not here to debate it. This is about your misconception that Kobe getting another ring will put him on par with Jordan.

Of course it crosses my mind. I ain't a professional. He wouldn't waste a second in "here."

In Kobe's mind getting another ring will put him on par with Jordan. That's all he can control is the raw number. He is just gratefult that (6) is within reasonable reach. He's wise enough to know that he'll never convince the din, and he'll spend nary a second on it, before or, after the fact.

[cobbler]

Cobbler, are you mad chum? I am simply stating what is very obvious. Kobe not only is a quitter (see the Suns series), he is a choker who completely melted down in the single biggest moment of his career.

I really do admire you and the way you stick by your team. How do you feel about Cul when he says it's over after game 2?

By Kobe not playing the right way all year, he set himself and his team up for this failure. It's on him and him alone.

If Kobe doesn't lead the comeback and they lose, will you write an apology to me for taking out your anger towards me instead of where it belongs? Kobe's mouth.

You will get an apology from me about the time you could beat me in a one on one game. ie. never.

You have already concluded a series that is not over. Cul is entitled to get his Mid on. Many have. You will not hear it from me. It isnt over till the 48th minute of the 4th loss. That has not happened. If it does, I will tip my hat to the Mavs and their fans and root for the winner of the west whoever it is.

Anybody blaming Kobe for the situation they are in in this series is a complete fool with no knowledge of basketball. He has been the one constant.

On to game 4...

[Nathan89]

If Kobe fails it will definitely leave a negative mark on his legacy because he is playing with the 2nd best C and 2nd best Pf.

[DMC]

Of course it crosses my mind. I ain't a professional. He wouldn't waste a second in "here."

In Kobe's mind getting another ring will put him on par with Jordan. That's all he can control is the raw number. He is just gratefult that (6) is within reasonable reach. He's wise enough to know that he'll never convince the din, and he'll spend nary a second on it, before or, after the fact.
But you will. You cannot defend Kobe from his point of view, only from yours, and yours is either that Kobe will be as good as Michael if he gets the ring or he will not. Let's not split hairs here.

[Cane]

This is why you cannot ever be taken seriously and are well, a fool.

First off. The Lakers are still playing.

Second, All you haters all year long bitch and whine. If Kobe only played team ball. If he only did this, If he only did that. ANd you all talked about MVPau ad naseum. Kobe has had a very good series. You can look at 12 other Lakers before Kobe in this one. Game one he shot a lot for 49% and played well. Game 2 he takes less shots for 49% and gets his teammates even more involved. 3rd game he had his most effecient game of the series. He has had some costly turnovers and a few blunders but by far has been the best and most consistent Laker out there. He has changed his game all 3 games trying to get his players to respond and only a few have. Shame on you.

Pau shit the bed. It's been seen by the entire country. It's been commented on by EVERYONE. And PJ showed you all who needed motivation and heart and even then nothing.

What a tool you are DPG. And the comeback with Kobe leading it will be shitting right where most your diarrhea resides. Your mouth.

Pau's definitely the main reason.

But Kobe doesn't look like he can make an impact that can rival Dirk's or CP3's. He's too old/injured and hasn't put up a complete game all series long: Game 1: 0 assists. Game 2: 0 rebounds. Game 3: 17 points on 16 shots.

You expect more from Kobe against a 38 year old Jason Kidd and Jason Terry. Imo Kobe's injured and fatigued out there. People forget he had knee surgery in the summer, didn't practice throughout the year, and hurt his foot at the end of the season + playoffs.

[DPG21920]

You will get an apology from me about the time you could beat me in a one on one game. ie. never.

You have already concluded a series that is not over. Cul is entitled to get his Mid on. Many have. You will not hear it from me. It isnt over till the 4bth minute of the 4th loss. That has not happened. If it does, I will tip my hat to the Mavs and their fans and root for the winner of the west whoever it is.

Anybody blaming Kobe for the situation they are in in this series is a complete fool with no knowledge of basketball. He has been the one constant.

On to game 4...


So is Cull a p*ssy like you call everyone who bails?

It's Kobe's moment. His time to catch Jordan. The only moment that truly mattered and he couldn't overcome a bad couple games from Pau? It's on him because he is a mental midget and quitter. He packed it in mentally all year. He breed this disease in the locker room by accepting "coasting". It's on him and you for not speaking up earlier.

[jjktkk]

If Kobe fails it will definitely leave a negative mark on his legacy because he is playing with the 2nd best C and 2nd best Pf.

In all honesty, Jordan, in his prime, would take this current Lakers team to greater heights than Kobe could.

[DPG21920]

Also, why are you above an apology Cobbler? If you were wrong and I was right, why can't you say "I'm sorry"? It shows you are petty. Really sad.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe is just too old to carry a team now. His only hope is that is for Bynum to be a viable #1 option, so Kobe can slide into that #2 option. I doubt Kobe would be willing to do that though.

He won't do for a leaky vessel such as Bynum. & he shouldn't. In order to rearrange the deck the Lakers must have a viable 1 in order for Kobe to relinquish. & frankly there is no sense in resetting the template if the new 1 is without merit. Mitch knows this without being told.

They thought this playoff season would be the beginning of that transition to Gasol. Uh, uh.

Kobe will sit down with Buss & Mitch after the funeral and get back to it.

[Giuseppe]

In all honesty, Jordan, in his prime, would take this current Lakers team to greater heights than Kobe could.

Only if MJ brought Pippen with him. He couldn't do squat without Pip.

[DPG21920]

You have to worry about Kobe quitting like before though. He's done it before. Now, with this failure on his mind, he can't recover.

[HarlemHeat37]

So is Cull a p*ssy like you call everyone who bails?

It's Kobe's moment. His time to catch Jordan. The only moment that truly mattered and he couldn't overcome a bad couple games from Pau? It's on him because he is a mental midget and quitter. He packed it in mentally all year. He breed this disease in the locker room by accepting "coasting". It's on him and you for not speaking up earlier.

:lol So, apparently, Kobe needed THREE 20-10 bigs to win, this year:lol..Bynum putting up an unexpected 20-10 dominance wasn't enough to win, along with Lamar Odom having a very good game..Kobe needs all 3 bigs to put up big numbers:lol..

Spoiled and delusional..

[DMC]

You will get an apology from me about the time you could beat me in a one on one game. ie. never.

You have already concluded a series that is not over. Cul is entitled to get his Mid on. Many have. You will not hear it from me. It isnt over till the 48th minute of the 4th loss. That has not happened. If it does, I will tip my hat to the Mavs and their fans and root for the winner of the west whoever it is.

Anybody blaming Kobe for the situation they are in in this series is a complete fool with no knowledge of basketball. He has been the one constant.

On to game 4...

He has been a constant. That much is true. The problem is that his constant has been detrimental to the success of the team, but they have overcome it with team play from collusion acquired players and those leg riders like Artest who would be second options on most other teams. Kobe has been allowed to exist in a carnival where he gets to ride the rides and take the shots for the big stuffed bear, but he's never had to pay the entry fees. That's always been done by the "help".

[Giuseppe]

You have to worry about Kobe quitting like before though. He's done it before. Now, with this failure on his mind, he can't recover.

He recovered from quitting to accomplish:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

He'll recover from this.

[Cane]

In all honesty, Jordan, in his prime, would take this current Lakers team to greater heights than Kobe could.

Even Wizards Jordan would dominate a 38 year old Jason Kidd tbh

[cobbler]

Also, why are you above an apology Cobbler? If you were wrong and I was right, why can't you say "I'm sorry"? It shows you are petty. Really sad.

You'll get no apologies from me. You are nothing but a tool and a sheep. Enjoy your weekend! :lol

[Giuseppe]

Even Wizards Jordan would dominate a 38 year old Jason Kidd tbh

As long as he brought Pippen with him. He couldn't do diddly without Pip.

[DPG21920]

:lol Exactly. If you are some guy chasing MJ, you should be able to overcome a few bad games from Pau, especially when Bynum is picking up the slack.

He's playing a team with no second option and Pau's scoring average isn't that far off from the Mavs second leading scorer :lol

[Nathan89]

Only if MJ brought Pippen with him. He couldn't do squat without Pip.

I think he could manage with 2nd best C, 2nd best Pf, and Odom(6th man,6'10,versatile).

[DPG21920]

You'll get no apologies from me. You are nothing but a tool and a sheep. Enjoy your weekend! :lol

Wow, just really sad. Can't admit when you were wrong. Just terribly disappointing, much like Kobe's failures.

[cobbler]

Keep spewing when it's not over!

Don't say I didn't warn ya....

see ya Sunday!

[Giuseppe]

I think he could manage with 2nd best C, 2nd best Pf, and Odom(6th man,6'10,versatile).

I don't think so. The record is clear:::Jordan could'nt accomplish anything without Pippen.

[alchemist]

vww3lmLQQGM
Hakeem wasting his time.

[Nathan89]

Comes down to the fact that Kobe can't win with four of the top 5 players of both teams on the Lakers.

[Giuseppe]

vww3lmLQQGM
Hakeem wasting his time.

Please. He rang after this.

[DMC]

You have to worry about Kobe quitting like before though. He's done it before. Now, with this failure on his mind, he can't recover.

Kobe has three options. He could play team ball, we know that's not going to suddenly start. He could decide it's him or nothing, that's a good possibility, or he could decide that he wants no part in the failure finger pointing and just defer to Pau relentlessly. He might even try to get into early foul trouble. I think he goes full chucker mode.

[DPG21920]

Keep spewing when it's not over!

Don't say I didn't warn ya....

see ya Sunday!

Not asking you to apologize now. Asking only if, and it's a big if, LA loses.

Especially after the hate you spewed towards me (someone who believes in LA) and not towards Cull (someone who quit on your team).

Ask him directly.

[DPG21920]

I can see Kobe not shooting in game 4. I can see him forcing the ball into Pau every single time he touches it to prove a point just to insulate him self all around from his own failure.

[DMC]

vww3lmLQQGM
Hakeem wasting his time.

Hakeem is a class act, one of the greatest of all time.

[Giuseppe]

Hakeem is a class act, one of the greatest of all time.

But, he squared the bell curve sharply.

Similar to the tired old shit bag upon reflection.

tee, hee.

[TinTin]

:lol So, apparently, Kobe needed THREE 20-10 bigs to win, this year:lol..Bynum putting up an unexpected 20-10 dominance wasn't enough to win, along with Lamar Odom having a very good game..Kobe needs all 3 bigs to put up big numbers:lol..

Spoiled and delusional..

:lol

[jag]

This is why you cannot ever be taken seriously and are well, a fool.

First off. The Lakers are still playing.

Second, All you haters all year long bitch and whine. If Kobe only played team ball. If he only did this, If he only did that. ANd you all talked about MVPau ad naseum. Kobe has had a very good series. You can look at 12 other Lakers before Kobe in this one. Game one he shot a lot for 49% and played well. Game 2 he takes less shots for 49% and gets his teammates even more involved. 3rd game he had his most effecient game of the series. He has had some costly turnovers and a few blunders but by far has been the best and most consistent Laker out there. He has changed his game all 3 games trying to get his players to respond and only a few have. Shame on you.

Pau shit the bed. It's been seen by the entire country. It's been commented on by EVERYONE. And PJ showed you all who needed motivation and heart and even then nothing.

What a tool you are DPG. And the comeback with Kobe leading it will be shitting right where most your diarrhea resides. Your mouth.


:lmao

[DPG21920]

Killa, this is not about the Spurs so please stay on point and stop spamming.

This is not Pau's fault. This was Kobe's chance to cement his legacy. To catch Mike. He failed. He has the best team around him and came up short. I'm sorry you had to suffer this.

Don't blame Cobbler either. He played his hardest. It's on Kobe.

[dunkman]

Kobe's the same player from last season, however Gasol ended the Gasol era . . . :(

[DPG21920]

Keep spewing when it's not over!

Don't say I didn't warn ya....

see ya Sunday!

We haven't seen Cobbler on this Sunday :lol

[Man In Black]

It's weird to not see all LAL bandwagon threads invade the front page. But the view look so, so nice!!!
:hat