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Hooks
05-07-2011, 07:25 PM
It seems that way, he's killing his team with the lack of ball movement, forcing stuff, chucking up bad shots, etc. When he finally does get Durant the ball it's way too late in the shot clock and Durant has to take a crappy shot. It reminds me a lot of how Kobe thought he was the MVP of the Lakers last year when he shot 6-24 in Game 7, or when he actually thought he was the MVP in '04, he got shut down by Prince and shot his team out of the finals.


I can't remember another player that ball hogged and hurt his team as much as Kobe which is why I made the comparison.

IMO, Durant needs to man up and tell Westbrook some shit, R-West is killing his team with his terrible play.

Giuseppe
05-07-2011, 07:26 PM
Kobe: 5

Westbrook: 0

redskinfan
05-07-2011, 07:29 PM
Westbrook=Stevie Franchise..making olympic and all-star teams so early in career I believe has hurt him...

redzero
05-07-2011, 07:37 PM
He is a slightly less talented Derrick Rose.

Capt. Obvious
05-07-2011, 07:42 PM
He is a slightly less talented Derrick Rose.
As far as style of play goes, absolutely. Mentally/leadership-wise I'd dispute that claim, but they're both young players so we'll see how the both continue to develop in those areas.

mavsfan1000
05-08-2011, 01:02 AM
Yeah he is definitely in the class of Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury.

DJ Mbenga
05-08-2011, 01:19 AM
he's a marbury. his mindset is like he is playing for dantoni, yet thats not what brooks wants. but i gotta give allen props. even when durant got the ball he made things extremely tough. westbrook probably thought if he cant score against him i should destroy conley, of course he was horrible against him

DMC
05-08-2011, 01:34 AM
Westbrook=Stevie Franchise..making olympic and all-star teams so early in career I believe has hurt him...

Winner winner chicken dinner...

Westbrook thinks he's another Kobe. His stats and results don't agree. I'll bet his teammates don't either.

DMC
05-08-2011, 01:34 AM
he's a marbury. his mindset is like he is playing for dantoni, yet thats not what brooks wants. but i gotta give allen props. even when durant got the ball he made things extremely tough. westbrook probably thought if he cant score against him i should destroy conley, of course he was horrible against him
Reminiscent of Tony Parker...

DMC
05-08-2011, 01:35 AM
He is a slightly less talented Derrick Rose.

And Shannon Brown is a slightly less talented Michael Jordan.

elemento
05-08-2011, 02:33 AM
Yeah pretty much

both sidekicks

redzero
05-08-2011, 03:41 AM
And Shannon Brown is a slightly less talented Michael Jordan.

The difference in talent between Rose and Westbrook is not at all significant.

rayjayjohnson
05-08-2011, 05:01 AM
pffffffffffffft.

derrick rose is a 22 year old mvp.

westbrick is a second option.

redzero
05-08-2011, 05:43 AM
Player A
37.4 mpg
25 ppg
.445 fg% (711-1597)
.332 3p% (128-385)
.55 TS%
.485 eFG%
4.1 rpg
7.7 apg
1 spg
3.4 tov
23.5 PER

Player B
34.7 mpg
21.9 ppg
.442 fg% (614-1390)
.330 3p% (34-103)
.538 TS%
.454 eFG%
4.6 rpg
8.2 apg
1.9 spg
3.9 tov
23.6 PER

Now, is one player significantly better than the other?

rayjayjohnson
05-08-2011, 06:19 AM
Rose. Player A.

rayjayjohnson
05-08-2011, 06:20 AM
What stat measures bonehead decisions?

I think Westbrook rates a 9 on the JR Smith scale

redzero
05-08-2011, 06:20 AM
Are you saying that he is better or that he is significantly better? If it is the latter, why? The stats don't bear that out.

EDIT: Rose isn't a sage with the ball either.

Hooks
05-08-2011, 06:35 AM
I don't think you can really compare D-Rose and Westbrook, Rose is in a much tougher situation imo, he's the focus of the Bulls' offense. Teams are constantly trying to shut him down or limit him, all the attention is on him. Meanwhile Westbrook is playing with a great player in Durant, as well as a couple of other guys that are putting up decent numbers.

Rose is the go to guy, when they need a bucket he produces and that's a very tough thing to do, whether it be scoring or setting up a guy for a wide open shot.

redzero
05-08-2011, 06:40 AM
I don't think you can really compare D-Rose and Westbrook, Rose is in a much tougher situation imo, he's the focus of the Bulls' offense. Teams are constantly trying to shut him down or limit him, all the attention is on him. Meanwhile Westbrook is playing with a great player in Durant, as well as a couple of other guys that are putting up decent numbers.

Rose is the go to guy, when they need a bucket he produces and that's a very tough thing to do, whether it be scoring or setting up a guy for a wide open shot.

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

http://i55.tinypic.com/6zlb21.jpg

Like I said, there is no significant difference.

ploto
05-08-2011, 06:58 AM
Memphis sure seems to be doing an outstanding job making good PG's look bad during these play-offs.

Pelicans78
05-08-2011, 09:48 AM
Westbrook needs to get traded to a team where he will be the focus of the offense. He doesn't want to be a true PG. Trade him to the Hornets for Paul. Hornets need a guy who will take over games and the Thunder can use more of a distributor.

Bill_Brasky
05-08-2011, 10:07 AM
Westbrook stagnates the offense, especially late in games. Rose does not.

And you can't deny that Rose is a far better passer and plays the position in a much more traditional way.

Kyle Orton
05-08-2011, 10:09 AM
Memphis sure seems to be doing an outstanding job making good PG's look bad during these play-offs.

Tony Parker isn't a good PG

Fabbs
05-08-2011, 10:47 AM
It seems that way, he's killing his team with the lack of ball movement, forcing stuff, chucking up bad shots, etc. When he finally does get Durant the ball it's way too late in the shot clock and Durant has to take a crappy shot. It reminds me a lot of how Kobe thought he was the MVP of the Lakers last year when he shot 6-24 in Game 7, or when he actually thought he was the MVP in '04, he got shut down by Prince and shot his team out of the finals.


I can't remember another player that ball hogged and hurt his team as much as Kobe which is why I made the comparison.

IMO, Durant needs to man up and tell Westbrook some shit, R-West is killing his team with his terrible play.
Good comparison.
Kobe without the burqua yes.

Giuseppe
05-08-2011, 10:48 AM
Good comparison.
Kobe without the burqua yes.

& the 5 rings.

Fabbs
05-08-2011, 11:08 AM
& the 5 rings.
The Taliban Kid is back.

We'll have to post what your obsession with spouting "5" repetative Taliban brainwashed style really means. We know it aint legit titles. You and Kobes are The Skunker on that one.

Your nose 5 inches up Kobmes sphincter? :lol

Giuseppe
05-08-2011, 11:09 AM
The Taliban Kid is back.

We'll have to post what your obsession with spouting "5" repetative Taliban brainwashed style really means. We know it aint legit titles. You and Kobes are The Skunker on that one.

Your nose 5 inches up Kobmes sphincter? :lol

I never left.

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

DPG21920
05-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Tony Parker isn't a good PG

Don't be dumb.

jag
05-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Tony Parker isn't a good PG

:corn:

LnGrrrR
05-08-2011, 12:23 PM
http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

http://i55.tinypic.com/6zlb21.jpg

Like I said, there is no significant difference.

That chart proved his point. Durant is higher than Westbrook. Yet there's not even ONE other Chicago player on that list.