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ElNono
05-08-2011, 02:29 PM
tbh, this is a preemptive thread.... let's face it, it might not be this game... but at some point Dirk is going to pass up a GW shot to Terry/Barea for a clunker or miss a free throw that would have turned a series around, or some such event that will require this thread to be made. The question isn't IF, but WHEN...

Axe Murderer
05-08-2011, 02:31 PM
8

ElNono
05-08-2011, 02:32 PM
8

:lol

Axe Murderer
05-08-2011, 02:33 PM
:lol

ElNono
06-05-2011, 09:55 PM
bump :D

BRHornet45
06-05-2011, 09:56 PM
lol 13 and 8 from a "Star" player

ElNono
06-05-2011, 09:57 PM
lol passing to the second row at crunch time...

LakerHater
06-05-2011, 09:57 PM
Is this in retaliation to Wade missin at the buzzer in game 2?

Axe Murderer
06-05-2011, 09:59 PM
cant put this one on Dirk tbh

florige
06-05-2011, 10:00 PM
I thought he should had gone for the win verses trying to make a much more difficult effort just to tie.

frodo
06-05-2011, 10:00 PM
choker just be the same old choker imo essence never changed. now we see who's the real prophet

Nick Manning
06-05-2011, 10:00 PM
cant put this one on Dirk tbh

yup...JET takes the blame for this. Didn't Dirk have around 15 4th quarter points? JET was a festering turd, like LeBron

badfish22
06-05-2011, 10:01 PM
The only thing I can put on Dirk was the decision to pass to Terry late in the game. He should know by now that Terry can't be trusted. Dirk should have taken the shot for himself.

Stalin
06-05-2011, 10:01 PM
that last dirk play looked like a choke

ElNono
06-05-2011, 10:02 PM
cant put this one on Dirk tbh

tbh Dirk has been making it very difficult for me to bump this thread, and I have a feeling this is probably the closest it's gonna get...

frodo
06-05-2011, 10:02 PM
dirk be brilliant all game except the last one minute tbh, dirk omitted his duty hes to take the responsibility of the L. dirk really sucked bad the last minute tbh. game could have gone either way imho, mavs just lost it due to some bad luck

frodo
06-05-2011, 10:03 PM
me be no fan of neither team, just don't wanna see bron da bitch winning it tbh

LkrFan
06-05-2011, 10:05 PM
JT and Matrix failed Dirk. I can't put today on him. 34 points should have been enough for a W.

TampaDude
06-05-2011, 10:05 PM
I thought he should had gone for the win verses trying to make a much more difficult effort just to tie.

^ this

Dirk should've shot the 3. It would've gone in...you know it would have.

TampaDude
06-05-2011, 10:06 PM
The only thing I can put on Dirk was the decision to pass to Terry late in the game. He should know by now that Terry can't be trusted. Dirk should have taken the shot for himself.

Yup...Dirk should've been the only one shooting for the Mavs down the stretch.

Nick Manning
06-05-2011, 10:07 PM
me be no fan of neither team, just don't wanna see bron da bitch winning it tbh

He's gonna win mayne, but Wade just won Finals MVP...so take that as a consolation prize imho

endrity
06-05-2011, 10:08 PM
So for Dirk to not "choke" he has to make every game winner out there? Right, when did even MJ do that?

I can't believe after everything he has done during these seasons, these playoffs, people will still put it on him.

ballhog
06-05-2011, 10:09 PM
That turnover by Dirk was a killer. He can hit that last shot 7 times out of ten.

badfish22
06-05-2011, 10:09 PM
^ This is just elnono being a douche. Don't take it seriously.

ElNono
06-05-2011, 10:10 PM
so for dirk to not "choke" he has to make every game winner out there?

yes!

ElNono
06-05-2011, 10:11 PM
^ This is just elnono being a douche. Don't take it seriously.

badfish22

florige
06-05-2011, 10:11 PM
So for Dirk to not "choke" he has to make every game winner out there? Right, when did even MJ do that?

I can't believe after everything he has done during these seasons, these playoffs, people will still put it on him.



Nah Dirk is the man. It isn't his fault that no one on the team besides him and maybe Kidd can deliver a clutch shot when needed. Like I said, my only gripe with that last shot was I would had much rather him just had gone for the win with a 3.

pass1st
06-05-2011, 10:11 PM
Wade's choke produced the funniest gifs

dirk4mvp
06-05-2011, 10:11 PM
I'd rather have gone for the 3 too.

endrity
06-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Can't make them all man. MJ missed over 100 of these shots in his career, made smth like 30 and yet people remember the latter.

Axe Murderer
06-05-2011, 10:26 PM
tbh I hate to admit it, but the Heat are clearly the better team imho

Not to say Dallas can't win the series, but I'm really not getting my hopes up too high

pass1st
06-05-2011, 10:30 PM
You guys forgot your jynx threads

koriwhat
06-05-2011, 10:30 PM
haters gonna hate...
chokers gonna choke...

it is what it is.

weebo
06-05-2011, 10:31 PM
The heat have three all stars (two possibly hall of farmers)...that just seems too much for any one team to overcome.

DPG21920
06-05-2011, 10:31 PM
Everyone calls everyone a choker when they lose. The Heat were a bunch of chokers after game 2. Dirk's a choker now. Lebron is clearly a Robin after being a Batman in game 1. People on ST need their heads checked and need to stop knee-jerking so hard.

Huge win for MIA, but Dallas has been in every game. I can't believe the calls tonight and the fact that Dallas somehow continues to shoot more FT's, but that is beside the point. The point is Dallas is in a tough spot and with MIA not losing two in a row all playoff, it could be tough for Dallas to head back to MIA up 3-2. However, MIA hadn't lost at home all playoffs before the Mavs did that, so you never know.

That pass by Dirk out of bounds was really bad though and you can't do that type of stuff in a game like this. The surprising FT advantage from Dallas has been negated by their surprising amount of TO's.

Axe Murderer
06-05-2011, 10:33 PM
people on ST need to stop knee-jerking so hard.


understatement of the century

JoeTait75
06-05-2011, 10:34 PM
Dirk did everything he possibly could to win that game. I just wish he'd taken a three at the end.

diego
06-05-2011, 10:35 PM
Can't make them all man. MJ missed over 100 of these shots in his career, made smth like 30 and yet people remember the latter.

Its not the same in the rs, as it is in the playoffs as it is in the finals. Dirk played much better than his teammates down the stretch and better than most players would/do, but if you are talking best players all time... what percentage of his game winners did MJ miss in the finals? How many times did Jordan walk off a finals floor having just missed the last shot to tie/win? I'm guessing much less than 70%

The thing about this play... everyone loves to say dirk's shot is unguardable, because of his high fading release. I'll be the first to recognize dude has easily one of the best jumpshots of all time. But a high difficulty jumpshot is not a very effective go-to move. down 2 with 4.4, you want your unguardable move to get you a sure 2, or a chance at the win. Dirk has to make an extremely difficult shot just for the tie... You cant make them all, but its not the same to miss an open 3 or have a layup rimout, than it is to clank a high arching pull up fadeaway jumper. Its not his fault they lost, he didn't choke, but neither is he mr. unguardable. The mavs desperately need someone other from dirk to step up on O, Terry and Barea are not enough (as they were vs the lakers).

DPG21920
06-05-2011, 10:36 PM
Yeah, this wasn't on Dirk. He did it on both ends. He rebounded very well, scored efficiently, made timely shots and even had some very good interior defensive plays.

The game was lost because when Wade/Lebron are on the floor with Terry/Marion or whomever, it's hard for those guys to score.

JoeTait75
06-05-2011, 10:40 PM
How many times did Jordan walk off a finals floor having just missed the last shot to tie/win? I'm guessing much less than 70%

Well hell, he passed off to white jump-shooting reserves for two Finals-winning shots. How many times did Jordan even take the last shot in a Finals game? The only time I can think of off the top of my head is in Game 6 of the '98 Finals.

Oh, he did miss the potential game-winner in Game 1 of the '91 Finals, I do remember that.

Remember that Nike commercial where Jordan talks about all the times he missed the last shot? It happens. MJ was awesome, for sure, but people talk about him now like he was this perfect being who never missed. He missed.

ElNono
06-05-2011, 10:48 PM
Everyone calls everyone a choker when they lose. The Heat were a bunch of chokers after game 2. Dirk's a choker now. Lebron is clearly a Robin after being a Batman in game 1. People on ST need their heads checked and need to stop knee-jerking so hard.

:lol Did you see when this thread was created?

diego
06-05-2011, 10:48 PM
ok, so you can think of one for, one against, and two times he set up a shooter (successfully). Thats a 25% failure rate, 50 if you dont want to consider the assists, not quite the 70% the original poster implied.
I never said Jordan never missed a finals/playoff/rs gamewinner. but do you really consider Dirk to be an all time clutch player? or are you one of those that say there is no such thing as clutch?

DPG21920
06-05-2011, 11:12 PM
I did The Nono, but the new comments and other threads after game 2 is what I was referring to.

nevitt_&_smrek
06-05-2011, 11:32 PM
JT and Matrix failed Dirk. I can't put today on him. 34 points should have been enough for a W.

Correct. Dirk did not get the support he needed, while the Heat got a huge boost from Chalmers. Additionally, it hurts that a defensive/rebounding presence like Haywood did not play.