Its Official, the Kobe-MJ Comparison is Done

[ezau]

After getting bukkaked by Dirk in four straight games, there's simply no way that Kobe's name should be mentioned with the GOAT.

Kobe has to deal with fact that he's simply the third best player of the decade behind Duncan and Shaq.

It's over Laker fans, stop the delusion that Kobe is as good as the GOAT, and move on. :toast:toast

[ElNono]

It was a non-starter, tbh

[Giuseppe]

It was a non-starter, tbh

Ez has his doubts.

tee, hee.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol there has never been a comparison..the potential of any future comparison ended after the 2004 Finals..

[ezau]

Skunker record updated:

Kobe: 3

Duncan: 2

[hitmanyr2k]

The comparison was never really there but this series definitely threw dirt on it if it was there :lol

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

MJ: 6 (and locked)

It ain't over.

[Cessation]

lol can you imgine jordan getting swept in the second round while having the best bigs in the nba?

[ChumpDumper]

Kobe: 5

MJ: 6 (and locked)

It ain't over.You know you have been told not to do this.

[TampaDude]

Kobe: 5

MJ: 6 (and locked)

It ain't over.

It's over.

[Cessation]

It's definetly over.

[DMC]

I think the Fisher/Magic comparisons are over as well.

[Giuseppe]

It's definetly over.

Nope. It ain't over. MJ is locked. Kobe is fluid.

[Giuseppe]

lol can you imgine jordan getting swept in the second round while having the best bigs in the nba?

One can imagine anything after he tried to sneak back at the end of a season to rob a ring.

Uh, uh. It didn't work. Daddy sent him packin'.

[Josepatches_]

What about Pipen/Kobe for the best sidekick?

Pippen 6

Kobe 5

It ain't over tbh

[Frenzy]

Nope. It ain't over. MJ is locked. Kobe is fluid.

fluid...almost like pulp...as in beaten to it.

[Giuseppe]

fluid...almost like pulp...as in beaten to it.

:rolleyes

[TampaDude]

Nope. It ain't over. MJ is locked. Kobe is fluid.

Yeah...vaginal fluid... :lmao

[Giuseppe]

What about Pipen/Kobe for the best sidekick?

Pippen 6

Kobe 5

It ain't over tbh

You have that. I'll take:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Just like that.

[ezau]

I've been saying it all along, it should have been Kobe-Pippen, but everyone's so fixated finding the next MJ.

[Giuseppe]

Yeah...vaginal fluid... :lmao

:rolleyes

[Giuseppe]

I've been saying it all along, it should have been Kobe-Pippen, but everyone's so fixated finding the next MJ.

You ain't far wrong. Without Pippen there'd be no MJ.

tee, hee.

[TampaDude]

:rolleyes

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s325/omglol69/Good-good-let-the-butthurt-flow-through-you-1.jpg

[ezau]

Can't even win a single game against Dirk without Butler. LOL

[Giuseppe]

Can't even win a single game against Dirk without Butler. LOL

You got no room. 8

[Capt Bringdown]

Second fiddles cannot be compared to leaders, Kobe can only win as a sidekick to a dominant big. Kobe taking a back seat to this era's leaders. Sidekick is something though, so don't take this so hard Kobe fans.

[Giuseppe]

Second fiddles cannot be compared to leaders, Kobe can only win as a sidekick to a dominant big. Kobe taking a back seat to this era's leaders. Sidekick is something though, so don't take this so hard Kobe fans.

You slouched around for 3 years after '07 and Kobe took yer cookie 5-4.

I've no sympathy for you.

[jag]

Giuseppe - Simmer down with the repetitive crap. Quit Hatin' was banned tonight. I'm sure you don't want to join him, right?


Right.

Understood.

Good night.

[Strike]

You got no room. 8

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You got no room.

[dbreiden83080]

How was this ever a debate??

Scoring-MJ
Defense-MJ
Intangibles-MJ
Leadership-MJ
Clutch-MJ
Big Game performances-MJ

What has Kobe ever done in Basketball that is better than Jordan? He always needed to be compared to the best of the last 10 years or so.. Mainly Duncan and Shaq. He is for sure a top 10 player ever.. The 3 best of the post Jordan era are no doubt Duncan, Kobe and Shaq. He was never in Jordan's league...

[Giuseppe]

How was this ever a debate??

Scoring-MJ
Defense-MJ
Intangibles-MJ
Leadership-MJ
Clutch-MJ
Big Game performances-MJ

What has Kobe ever done in Basketball that is better than Jordan? He always needed to be compared to the best of the last 10 years or so.. Mainly Duncan and Shaq. He is for sure a top 10 player ever.. The 3 best of the post Jordan era are no doubt Duncan, Kobe and Shaq. He was never in Jordan's league...

MJ quit. MJ tried to return with 15 games left to steal a ring.

Sans Pippen, MJ is ringless.

[DPG21920]

It's not a knock on Kobe, but he should have never been compared to MJ in the first place. They should put him in the convo of the guys who are not the best at their positions (MJ, Duncan....), but right there below it.

[Capt Bringdown]

How was this ever a debate??


NBA marketing, "passing the torch" and all that jazz to bring in the casual fans.

[ChrisRichards]

This Kobe and MJ comparison officially ended in 2006 and Kobe reconfirmed this myth/lies/illusion in 2008 against the Celtics. There never was a legit MJ comparison since then.

[Giuseppe]

This Kobe and MJ comparison officially ended in 2006 and Kobe reconfirmed this myth/lies/illusion in 2008 against the Celtics. There never was a legit MJ comparison since then.

Kobe: 5 (and dynamic)

Jordan: 6 (and static)

It ain't over.

[Baseline]

What about Pipen/Kobe for the best sidekick?

Pippen 6

Kobe 5

It ain't over tbh

Thank you for saying this. This is the better comparison by far.

What has Bryant proven without a dominant big man?

Nothing.

[Baseline]

Doesn't Jordan have six Finals MVP trophies? Jordan was obvioulsy far and away the best player on his team, and nobody would ever even question it.

Well, nobody would ever question the fact that Shaquille was far and away the best player on those 2000-2002 Laker teams. Bryant coattailed. Period.

Bryant has only two Finals MVP trophies...at least one of which is a joke (i.e. after the 6-24 Game 7).

Tim Duncan has three. So in my mind, Bryant has more work to do before he can be compared to Duncan, much less to Pippen. And NEVER, EVER to Michael Jordan.

[Giuseppe]

Without Pippen there'd be no Jordan.

[Agloco]

Kobe: 5

MJ: 6 (and locked)

It ain't over.

Agreed. Kobe might coattail his way to a few more.

[Giuseppe]

Agreed. Kobe might coattail his way to a few more.

By hook or by crook. Makes me nary a diff. I do the raw count. And you know who else abscribes to that count? Oh, yeah, the Kobester.

[Agloco]

Without Pippen there'd be no Jordan.

Who was the second banana during the 2000-2002 run? :lol

Hint: HeRAPED period.

[Giuseppe]

Who was the second banana during the 2000-2002 run?

Daddy.

[Agloco]

Agreed. Kobe might coattail his way to a few more.


By hook or by crook. Makes me nary a diff. I do the raw count. And you know who else abscribes to that count? Oh, yeah, the Kobester.

Unfortunately old man, for purposes of this argument it's quite relevant. The GOAT played in Chicago. No amount of coattailed championships will change that.

[cheguevara]

MJ >>>>>> Kobe has been officially enshrined in marble.

good riddance to the old bag of shit Kobe

[cheguevara]

lol can you imgine jordan getting swept in the second round while having the best bigs in the nba?

:lmao

[Agloco]

Daddy.

You need your meds adjusted. Might wanna see Ron Ron's physician. He did pretty well this year, even escorted Bynum off during his moment of weakness.

[Giuseppe]

MJ >>>>>> Kobe has been officially enshrined in marble.

good riddance to the old bag of shit Kobe

Duncan is the tired old shit bag. I invented it. Get your own shit, Che.

Still & all:::good morning, lover.

[Giuseppe]

You need your meds adjusted. Might wanna see Ron Ron's physician. He did pretty well this year, even escorted Bynum off during his moment of weakness.

Bend over. I'll give a ya f'in' moment of weakness.

[Agloco]

Bend over. I'll give a ya f'in' moment of weakness.

I'm too old for ya old man. My 8th birthday passed some time ago.

[Giuseppe]

I'm too old for ya old man. My 8th birthday passed some time ago.

You act about 9.

[Agloco]

You act about 9.

Pot meet kettle.

The shit you shovel don't taste so good now does it?

[Giuseppe]

Pot meet kettle.

The shit you shovel don't taste so good now does it?

& vice versa. Your people ain't no better.

[Spur-Addict]

http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s325/omglol69/Good-good-let-the-butthurt-flow-through-you-1.jpg

:lmao

[TheManFromAcme]

To heck with the Kobe argument. Stupid circle jerk
I will say this; his failure to "will" at least one win out of this team for dignity sake, has tainted his status with me personally as a long life laker fan. Not Pau, not Drew, not Lamar...Kobe....he wanted this team to be "his"? results say otherwise.

I don't buy, nor will I ever buy the MJ being the greatest ever B.S. but what I will buy is that MJ probably would have "willed" different results. Call it what you will.

Kobe can correct this but he better find a way to do this other than crying to buss and mitch. SOB had all the tools.

nuff said.

signed,

A Laker (as in the franchise) fan....:(

[Agloco]

& vice versa. Your people ain't no better.

'cept you patrol these boards on a regular in your rubber overalls and pitchfork old man. Your existence is predicated on shit-shoveling. It is what it is.

[Giuseppe]

'cept you patrol these boards on a regular in your rubber overalls and pitchfork old man. Your existence is predicated on shit-shoveling. It is what it is.

Your people had it comin'.

[Giuseppe]

To heck with the Kobe argument. Stupid circle jerk
I will say this; his failure to "will" at least one win out of this team for dignity sake, has tainted his status with me personally as a long life laker fan. Not Pau, not Drew, not Lamar...Kobe....he wanted this team to be "his"? results say otherwise.

I don't buy, nor will I ever buy the MJ being the greatest ever B.S. but what I will buy is that MJ probably would have "willed" different results. Call it what you will.

Kobe can correct this but he better find a way to do this other than crying to buss and mitch. SOB had all the tools.

nuff said.

signed,

A Laker (as in the franchise) fan....:(

Hogwash. He's been answering your prayers at a 100% clip for two years. You just took, and he never said "no." He just delivered it.

Now, he fails, he needs you for the first time in two years, reaches out for you and you spit in his face, Acme.

[Ashy Larry]

that debate is only brought up by Laker fans ..... many people when asked have put MJ at the top of the GOAT but I rarely hear Bean stated as the number one of all time. Hell, he wasn't the best player in this series .......

[BlackSwordsMan]

MJ may have 6 rings but he doesn't have a skunker the original owner claims that. Nah uh you can't have it micheal.

[jag]

Losing happens, but the embarrassing way it happened to Kobe will never be forgotten. It will forever be a part of his legacy. Just like 6-24 and that embarrassing Finals loss to the Celts.

[TheManFromAcme]

Hogwash. He's been answering your prayers at a 100% clip for two years. You just took, and he never said "no." He just delivered it.

Now, he fails, he needs you for the first time in two years, reaches out for you and you spit in his face, Acme.

ain't spittin cul, just venting. emmotional investments do that to ya.
if you noticed, i did throw in a smidgen of positive in it with my "he can fix this" line which displays my ultimate faith in his skills and game but to ask for one game, cully, ....one game....was not much to ask for...that's all I am sayin.

besides, i don't ever get involved with the Kobe vs. MJ argument. so, so many variables that most overlook....

purple and gold expectations are high,you oughta know that...

[Giuseppe]

MJ may have 6 rings but he doesn't have a skunker the original owner claims that. Nah uh you can't have it micheal.

MJ also has the distinction of trying to come back 15 games left and trying to shoplift the pootie.

Uh, uh.

[jag]

36 points is just a lot of points.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Difference is people thought MJ still had something left in the tank. Nah uh when kobe leaves it because hes exhausted everything in that tank. hmm mmm

[BlackSwordsMan]

36 points is just a lot of points.

8*1-tired old shit bag=skunker

[Giuseppe]

ain't spittin cul, just venting. emmotional investments to that to ya.
if you noticed, i did throw in a smidgen of positive in it with my "he can fix this" line which displays my ultimate faith on his skills and game but to ask for one game, cully, ....one game....was not much to ask for...that's all I am sayin.

besides, i don't ever get involved with the Kobe vs. MJ argument. so, so many variables that most overlook....

purple and gold expectations are high,you oughta know that...

It's never enough, Acme. "You're" never satisfied. "Just one more, Kobe, please." There were no more. The tumult has silenced. If nothing else, Acme, just be still, for him.

[Giuseppe]

36 points is just a lot of points.

More than 8.

[cheguevara]

Kobe can correct this but he better find a way to do this other than crying to buss and mitch.

no he can't. he's a finished bag of shit. All he can do is pray Mitch gets another first ballot HOFer in the offseason.

[jag]

. If nothing else, Acme, just be still, for him.

:lol

[jag]

More than 8.

Of course it's more than 8. If youre capable of doing simple math, you'd realize it's 28 more points than 8. You'd also realize how sad and lonely you're going to be when youre sent packing and have to go back to AZ Central.

[TheManFromAcme]

It's never enough, Acme. "You're" never satisfied. "Just one more, Kobe, please." There were no more. The tumult has silenced. If nothing else, Acme, just be still, for him.

:lol

[Giuseppe]

Of course it's more than 8. If youre capable of doing simple math, you'd realize it's 28 more points than 8. You'd also realize how sad and lonely you're going to be when youre sent packing and have to go back to AZ Central.

Say it louder. I don't think Herself heard you, Jaggy.

tee, hee.

[jag]

:lol you're going down a dangerous and lonely path, Culburn. I'm just looking out for you, buddy.

[TheManFromAcme]

no he can't. he's a finished bag of shit. All he can do is pray Mitch gets another first ballot HOFer in the offseason.

YOU'RE hoping he's done and finished. Better minds than yours and mine say other wise. you know he's more than just serviceable che, don't fool yourself. on second thought, go ahead and fool yourself. They will still be in the hunt next season.

[cheguevara]

for Stalin's sake. Kobe is done. wake up.

[jag]

Kobe isn't close to being done, but he needs to face the reality of his situation. He needs to be a facilitator for 3 quarters and then take over the 4th with fresh legs. Can't have it both ways anymore.

[Giuseppe]

:lol

Wasn't mean't to be funny.

I bet you weren't laughin' when you were prayin' to Kobe the last three years, huh? Yep, yer were ashen faced & stoic then. Afterward, you'd come here & jackass with the rest of us, on Bryant's "say so."

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Giuseppe]

:lol you're going down a dangerous and lonely path, Culburn. I'm just looking out for you, buddy.

You need to speak up. Herself still can't hear ya.

jejejeje!!!

[jag]

Iusep gettin his emo on

[Giuseppe]

Iusep gettin his emo on

I'm a renaissance man.

It's my religion.

[jag]

I'm a renaissance man.

It's my religion.

Luring children with Tootsie Rolls isn't a religion.

[Giuseppe]

Luring children with Tootsie Rolls isn't a religion.


No way, Jose'. I vowed at 8 I would never respond to the molestation materiel with the mother naughties.

And I'm holdin' fast in the ranks.

[jag]

No way, Jose'. I vowed at 8 I would never respond to the molestation materiel with the mother naughties.

And I'm holdin' fast in the ranks.

You're gonna be holding fast in the lowest of ranks in prison if you get caught taking another 11 year old.

[Kyle Orton]

I just had another great bagel today with cream cheese and lox.

[TheManFromAcme]

Wasn't mean't to be funny.

I bet you weren't laughin' when you were prayin' to Kobe the last three years, huh? Yep, yer were ashen faced & stoic then. Afterward, you'd come here & jackass with the rest of us, on Bryant's "say so."

Yeah, yeah, I know.

in either case, cully, I am more than entitled to be upset at him as a player and one who wanted the responsibility to run his "own" team. when you lead and win, the spoils belong to you...when you lose, you get the shyt....its been like that for ages..

Only Laker I've ever "prayed" to was Earv and that's where it will end. said it once, said it twice, and i will forever say it again........Kobe is 1/2 the leader Buck was......if it hurts....oh well...


in the scheme of all things being life....this IS funny....it's only basketball buddy.....:toast


relax cully....

[Giuseppe]

I just had another great bagel today with cream cheese and lox.

Bend over. I'll give ya a f'in' lox.

[Kyle Orton]

moo moo, puck-a-roo :lmao

[Giuseppe]

moo moo, puck-a-roo :lmao

puck:lmao

[Rummpd]

It is laughable that Mr. 6 for 24 and Mr. 17th all time in PER is even in the discussion when ESPN other writers have shown that he is also not truly clutch. Bryant is NOT EVEN NEAR GOAT - he is an exciting player and plays very hard. But at best he is a borderline top five-ten player and nothing more and showed AGAIN his lack of leadership when his team melted around him just as they did for years sans Shaq or Gasol/Odom.

[Kyle Orton]

:lmao there goes Rummpd with his PER stats

[Venti Quattro]

Rummpd raping with the PERPERIOD

[Kyle Orton]

The Good Doctor with the goods

[Axe Murderer]

tbh the Lakers should trade Odom for Turkoglu imho