Lakers Dynasty collapses

[wanggi]

The main thing is those teammates have no desire to fight for Kobe's 6th ring.

Phil is gone.
Fisher is old.
Gasol is tired.
Artest is uncompetitive.
Kobe can't manage the buzzard beater.
Odom hates Kobe.
Bynum is injury-prone.

Bench is thin.

Timber~

:downspin:

[Giuseppe]

Artest was pretty competitive on that put back. I thought Collins was gonna have a double coronary:::"NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

tee, hee.

[cheguevara]

what dynasty?

going through Utah, Houston, Denver and Orlando makes them a dynasty???

:lmao

[TheManFromAcme]

what dynasty?

going through Utah, Houston, Denver and Orlando makes them a dynasty???

:lmao

2000-2010 (decade)

5 lobs with with one back to back?......yeah, I'd say it's a dynasty no matter who they had to go through.


sorry it pains you but math dont lie....:toast

[cheguevara]

the Shaq daddy laker dynasty ended in 03.

since then there has been no dynasty.

[wanggi]

Artest was pretty competitive on that put back. I thought Collins was gonna have a double coronary:::"NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

tee, hee.

Yes, Artest WAS pretty competitive....
Thanks,that is just what I mean.:lol

[Dex]

2000-2010 (decade)

5 lobs with with one back to back?......yeah, I'd say it's a dynasty no matter who they had to go through.


sorry it pains you but math dont lie....:toast

Wouldn't that be three back-to-backs?

[TheManFromAcme]

the Shaq daddy laker dynasty ended in 03.

since then there has been no dynasty.


see what you did there. YOU are picking your own time frame/period to define a dynasty. don't work like that che....sorry.

how bout this;

The Lakers have won the most championships the last 30 years than any other team. how bout dem apples? see what i did? picked my own period.

don't be silly.

you define a dynasty by a period of time (traditionally in sports it's by decades) not by who played in them. don't pick your own period silly...:lol

:toast

[TheManFromAcme]

Wouldn't that be three back-to-backs?

1- 3 peat and one back to back..... = 5


your right...

:toast

[cheguevara]

partly correct. 3 peat Shaq team was a dynasty.

that was over in 03.

again

going through Utah, Houston, Denver and Orlando makes them a dynasty???

[djohn2oo8]

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/building-implosion-10.gif

[Venti Quattro]

Going through Cleveland makes San Antonio a champion???

[TampaDude]

Going through Cleveland makes San Antonio a champion???

How about defeating the defending champion Pistons in 2005, the same team that make the Lakers their bitch in 2004. :lol

[TheManFromAcme]

partly correct. 3 peat Shaq team was a dynasty.

that was over in 03.

again

going through Utah, Houston, Denver and Orlando makes them a dynasty???

:bang

not a hard concept to grasp really che.

what was over in 03? I didn't know decades ended in 3....:rolleyes

one more time for ya....2000-2010 = Lakers L-A-K-E-R-S won 5 of them, hence making them the dynasty of the first decade of this century...

[Venti Quattro]

Spurs can be considered a dynasty too, notwithstanding not repeating.

[cheguevara]

:bang

not a hard concept to grasp really che.

what was over in 03? I didn't know decades ended in 3....:rolleyes

one more time for ya....2000-2010 = Lakers L-A-K-E-R-S won 5 of them, hence making them the dynasty of the first decade of this century...

I guess lakerfans still in shock from the loss.



National Basketball Association
Minneapolis Lakers 1948 to 1954 (5 championships between 1949 and 1954)[39][40]
Boston Celtics 1956 to 1986 (16 NBA titles in 30 years overall. 26 winning seasons, 20 division titles, 18 conference titles, including 11 championships in 13 years from 1957–69)[4][41][42]
Los Angeles Lakers of 1979 to 1991 led by Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. (5 NBA championships, 10 Division titles, 9 conference championships, 12 winning seasons)[42]
Detroit Pistons of 1987 to 1991 led by Isiah Thomas and the Bad Boys. (5 straight Conference finals appearances ('87 to '91) 3 conference championships ('88, '89, and '90) and NBA championships back to back ('89 and '90)) [42]
Chicago Bulls of 1989 to 1998 led by Michael Jordan. (6 NBA championships in 8 seasons, 2 sets of three consecutive championships ('91, '92, '93, '96, '97, '98), 6 division titles in 8 seasons, and hold best regular season record in NBA history (72-10) during the '95-96 season).[4][42]
Los Angeles Lakers of 1999 to 2004, led by Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal. Won 4 Western Conference championships in 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2004 and 3 consecutive NBA championships in 2000, 2001, and 2002, including the best postseason record in NBA history in 2001 (15-1).[42]
San Antonio Spurs of 1998 to 2008 led by Tim Duncan. (4 NBA championships (1999, 2003, '05, '07) in 9 seasons) are considered a dynasty by some,[42][43][44] but not by others[45][46] because they did not win consecutive titles.

[TheGreatest23]

The main thing is those teammates have no desire to fight for Kobe's 6th ring.

Phil is gone.
Fisher is old.
Gasol is tired.
Artest is uncompetitive.
Kobe can't manage the buzzard beater.
Odom hates Kobe.
Bynum is injury-prone.

Bench is thin.

Timber~

:downspin:

i think being in 3 finals on a row took a toll. You dont agree?

[Venti Quattro]

i think being in 3 finals on a row took a toll. You dont agree?

Winning in international competition took its toll too :tu

[Leetonidas]

The Lakers from 2000-2002 were a dynasty, no way a three-peat isn't. But you can't call just a back-to-back a dynasty because everyone will agree that Hakeem's Rox weren't a dynasty. So to say the Lakers from 2000-2010 were a dynasty is crap, because the 2009-2010 title teams only share Kobe, Fisher (lol), and Phil. While Kobe remained, the Lakers of the early decade were Shaq's teams, clearly. And having the most dominant and unguardable center ever really helped Kobe and the rest of his teammates.

This recent run was more like a herpes flare-up.

[Leetonidas]

Going through Cleveland makes San Antonio a champion???

Yeah, because them Pacer, Sixer, Net, and Magic teams were fucking staaaaaacked brah :lmao

[Venti Quattro]

Yeah, because them Pacer, Sixer, Net, and Magic teams were fucking staaaaaacked brah :lmao

Let's see the teams the Spurs beat:

1999: New York
2003: New Jersey (not stacked according to you, but your team had to go 6 games)
2005: Detroit (the only one of significance)
2007: Cleveland

Anything more to show for?

[Leetonidas]

Let's see the teams the Spurs beat:

1999: New York
2003: New Jersey (not stacked according to you, but your team had to go 6 games)
2005: Detroit (the only one of significance)
2007: Cleveland

Anything more to show for?

1999: T-Wolves, Blazers, swept Kobe and Shaq
2003: Made Kobe and Shaq cry
2005: Stomped the Pistons that raped you the previous year
2007: Phoenix Suns that raped your rapist

The East was weak as hell until 2004 and the Cavs and Heat were terrible Finals competition. But the competition the Spurs faced in the West was pretty damn fierce, you cannot deny.

[Venti Quattro]

1999: T-Wolves, Blazers, swept Kobe and Shaq
2003: Made Kobe and Shaq cry
2005: Stomped the Pistons that raped you the previous year
2007: Phoenix Suns that raped your rapist

2001: 111-72 111-82 skunkage. Nuff said
2002: Boring as the Spurs 4-1 series win :wakeup
2004: 0.4 :cry :cry :cry
2008: :lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

it's done cause there's nobody left to coach kobe

[Leetonidas]

2001: 111-72 111-82 skunkage. Nuff said
2002: Boring as the Spurs 4-1 series win :wakeup
2004: 0.4 :cry :cry :cry
2008: :lmao

:lmao

Two of those years neither of our teams won the title, so it's rather irrelevant.

2001/2002 we got rapedPERIOD. Not even going to defend that (our team outside of Tim was pretty damn old and washed up though). But don't forget the league gifted the Lakers that series versus the Kings. Only LA fans think they won that shit fair and squre.

2004: Lakers get massively owned with 4 all-time greats
2008: lol game 6


I can play this game all day bro.

[Leetonidas]

36

:lmao

[TheManFromAcme]

...still stands..


since 2000....the lakers have won the most....period

last time i checked, it was 5.....and managed to defend title (s)(plural)

I'll take all the crap that came with it in between, the blowouts, the sweeps, the internal crap...all, all for the bragging right of calling them the dynasty of the 00's.

:toast

[TampaDude]

The Lakers and Spurs pretty much dominated the decade of the 2000s...but it looks like that era is fast coming to a close. It was fun while it lasted, though. :toast

[TheMACHINE]

:lmao

Two of those years neither of our teams won the title, so it's rather irrelevant.

2001/2002 we got rapedPERIOD. Not even going to defend that (our team outside of Tim was pretty damn old and washed up though). But don't forget the league gifted the Lakers that series versus the Kings. Only LA fans think they won that shit fair and squre.

2004: Lakers get massively owned with 4 all-time greats
2008: lol game 6


I can play this game all day bro.

really? you think you can play a game all day comparing accomplishments of the Lakers vs the Spurs? ok buddy.

[TheManFromAcme]

The Lakers and Spurs pretty much dominated the decade of the 2000s...but it looks like that era is fast coming to a close. It was fun while it lasted, though. :toast

:toast

[TheMACHINE]

The Lakers and Spurs pretty much dominated the decade of the 2000s...but it looks like that era is fast coming to a close. It was fun while it lasted, though. :toast

it sure was fun. Now its time to see who will ring first. :toast

[Leetonidas]

...still stands..


since 2000....the lakers have won the most....period

last time i checked, it was 5.....and managed to defend title (s)(plural)

I'll take all the crap that came with it in between, the blowouts, the sweeps, the internal crap...all, all for the bragging right of calling them the dynasty of the 00's.

:toast

And there's nothing wrong with that. You guys have your way, personally I like the story of the small market with the quiet superstar winning 4 titles while staying a serious title contender for 10+ years with no periods of mediocrity in between. And if it wasn't for a stupid foul we may have that 5th title, so I can't say they were never in a great position to win a 5th. All in all, the massive franchise that had 11 titles prior to the decade now has 16 and the small franchise that had 0 has 4, and it's all good. :hat

[Venti Quattro]

Spurs and Lakers fans like to throw shit on each other but the truth is there is a youth movement going on in the NBA. It's the changing of the guard. Both teams need to retool or else they're going to get left

[Leetonidas]

really? you think you can play a game all day comparing accomplishments of the Lakers vs the Spurs? ok buddy.

We're talking about the recent "Laker Dynasty." So throw the Showtime Lakers out of the equation and don't even bring up the 5 titles in Minneapolis. :lmao

[TampaDude]

Spurs and Lakers fans like to throw shit on each other but the truth is there is a youth movement going on in the NBA. It's the changing of the guard. Both teams need to retool or else they're going to get left

^ this

It's obvious that the torch is being passed to a new generation in the NBA. The next decade is wide open, IMHO.

[TheManFromAcme]

Spurs and Lakers fans like to throw shit on each other but the truth is there is a youth movement going on in the NBA. It's the changing of the guard. Both teams need to retool or else they're going to get left

hear, hear....:toast

[TheManFromAcme]

And there's nothing wrong with that. You guys have your way, personally I like the story of the small market with the quiet superstar winning 4 titles while staying a serious title contender for 10+ years with no periods of mediocrity in between. And if it wasn't for a stupid foul we may have that 5th title, so I can't say they were never in a great position to win a 5th. All in all, the massive franchise that had 11 titles prior to the decade now has 16 and the small franchise that had 0 has 4, and it's all good. :hat

:tu I agree

Spurs, for all intent and purposes should have had at least 5, I'll give you that..maybe even 6 tbh....

[TampaDude]

:tu I agree

Spurs, for all intent and purposes should have had at least 5, I'll give you that..maybe even 6 tbh....

Well, the Spurs were a miracle .4 shot and a stupid foul away from a possible 5-peat, so yeah...but 4 in 9 seasons is still damn good, especially for a small-market team like the Spurs. I can't complain. :hat

[TheManFromAcme]

Well, the Spurs were a miracle .4 shot and a stupid foul away from a possible 5-peat, so yeah...but 4 in 9 seasons is still damn good, especially for a small-market team like the Spurs. I can't complain. :hat

agree.

when it's all said and done, the spurs accomplished in 10 years what most teams in the NBA have never even smelled.

- good FO
- HOF coach
- ability to make somehting out of nothing

at the end of the day, Spurs are cream that rises to the top, even if I can't stand your team.....:lol....its' all good

[TampaDude]

agree.

when it's all said and done, the spurs accomplished in 10 years what most teams in the NBA have never even smelled.

- good FO
- HOF coach
- ability to make somehting out of nothing

at the end of the day, Spurs are cream that rises to the top, even if I can't stand your team.....:lol....its' all good

Wow...all this Spurs love from a Lakers fan...I swear, I'm getting all misty eyed... :lol

[Venti Quattro]

Get a room you two

[TheManFromAcme]

Wow...all this Spur love from a Lakers fan...I swear, I'm getting all misty eyed... :lol


respect bro. I still LOVE this game, regardless of your colors......:tu

[TheManFromAcme]

Get a room you two

:hat

[TampaDude]

respect bro. I still LOVE this game, regardless of your colors......:tu

Back at ya, dude...and we'll always have a common enemy...the REFS. :lol

[easy7]

You motherfuckers..

[wanggi]

Where is my heartbroken Cubby hiding?

[Giuseppe]

Where is my heartbroken Cubby hiding?

lmvictoriousao!

[wanggi]

Me, couldn't sleep!:depressed

Take care, sweetheart.:hat

[cobbler]

partly correct. 3 peat Shaq team was a dynasty.

that was over in 03.

again

going through Utah, Houston, Denver and Orlando makes them a dynasty???


jazz,rockets,nugz,magic
48,53,54,59 = 214


kings,suns,blazers,indiana
44,53,59,56 = 212
blazers,kings,spurs,76ers
50,55,58,56 = 219
blazers,spurs,kings,nets
49,58,61,52 = 220

Roughly about the same number of season wins from opponents in playoff runs. Actually the run your talking about has the highest win total opponent in the finals than any of the 3 Shaq era championships.

Nice try.

[The Gemini Method]

You know it sucks when two teams should both be embarrassed...36 and 8= an end to TWO eras.

[cobbler]

agree.

when it's all said and done, the spurs accomplished in 10 years what most teams in the NBA have never even smelled.

- good FO
- HOF coach
- ability to make somehting out of nothing

at the end of the day, Spurs are cream that rises to the top, even if I can't stand your team.....:lol....its' all good

They have most definetly made a great little brother in the western conference. Oh but for a few plays this way or the other and it would be reversed. Either way, the west rules!

[cobbler]

BTW, We will be back next year. Count on it.

Let's see how long it takes the others...

[The Gemini Method]

Anyone see Sportscenter today? They had like 5 consecutive things Laker related in a row. That's why the Lakeshow will never be totally down for long. :cry

[ezau]

I agree with the one who said that there's changing of the guard in the NBA. The 2000s was dominated by both the Lakers and Spurs, but as we speak, the next decade is being taken away by a new generation.

Personally, I can't complain about what the Spurs have achieved and although it's painful to admit, it looks like the Duncan window is already closed. The Lakers on the other hand, can still reload and get a few useful pieces to contend next year. I'll give the Lakers a year or two before finally shutting down the Kobe Bryant era.

[The Gemini Method]

The Spurs were the Lakers biggest rivals in the Aughts...very well-run org. Very big accomplishments for a supposed small market team.

[Giuseppe]

Personally, I can't complain about what the Spurs have achieved and although it's painful to admit, it looks like the Duncan window is already closed. The Lakers on the other hand, can still reload and get a few useful pieces to contend next year. I'll give the Lakers a year or two before finally shutting down the Kobe Bryant era.

Ez, gettin' his integrity on.

For strange threads, you wear 'em well.

[ezau]

Nah Cully, I'm just facing reality as it is. Lakers can still contend next year even without PJ and knowing how well that franchise is run, getting the right pieces won't be a problem for them.

The Spurs on the hand hand, have become the 2000-2003 version of the Jazz. Unless we'll be able to convince teams to get RJ/Bonner/Blair, we're just going to get bounced in the playoffs until Duncan calls it a career.

[024]

http://i.imgur.com/SmaB3.gif

[J_Paco]

You know it sucks when two teams should both be embarrassed...36 and 8= an end to TWO eras.

Very true, Laker fan. S.A. got bested by a younger, hungrier, stronger and vastly more athletic team. L.A. got bested by a old-ass, hungrier and more focused team.

Fuck, who would've ever thought that Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich would be out-coached by Rick Carlisle and Lionell Hollins? Life ain't fair sometimes..........

:depressed:depressed:depressed

[Giuseppe]

Fuck, who would've ever thought that Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich would be out-coached by Rick Carlisle and Lionell Hollins?

Lots of truth on this page.

[DMC]

Can I be a dynasty too? I want to be a dynasty.

[Jt.ONE]

lots of love in this thread makes a dude wanna :cry

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

@leetonidas
is your avatar a real pic? hahaha
i wouldnt doubt that mofo is in the white house smoking crack with obama

[WildcardManu]

Going to be a while before you see rivalries like the Spurs and Lakers had from this new generation of players. :toast To a good decade.

[wanggi]

Cubby hurts badly this time.

[CavsSuperFan]

I have said this before & I know that Lisa Leslie would agree with me…

If you remove Kobe, Artest & Bynum for the LA Lakers roster, the LA Lakers could not beat the LA Sparks in a 7 game series….:toast

[Giuseppe]

Cubby hurts badly this time.

True. But, O & 43! +

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

helps the hurt hurt less.

tee, hee.

[DMC]

I have said this before & I know that Lisa Leslie would agree with me…

If you remove Kobe, Artest & Bynum for the LA Lakers roster, the LA Lakers could not beat the LA Sparks in a 7 game series….:toast
No shit. If you remove the best 3 from any team the rest would be hard pressed to do anything. However a boys HS team could beat the Sparks.

[Giuseppe]

However a boys HS team could beat the Sparks.

I'd love to be in the locker room of the winning team after that game.

[TheMACHINE]

i love all of you

[DMC]

I'd love to be in the locker room of the winning team after that game.
Not sure you would be allowed.

[Banzai]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/1/shuggafreeupinthisbish.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=5493)

[NewJerSpur]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/1/shuggafreeupinthisbish.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=5493)

That better have not been made by a resident from out in LA....that's not even how you spell dude's name, lol.

[Giuseppe]

Not sure you would be allowed.

I'd come bearing candy, a portable DVD device & "Gladiator" in HD.

You bring the poppers & some Bean-O.

[DMC]

I'd come bearing candy, a portable DVD device & "Gladiator" in HD.

You bring the poppers & some Bean-O.
I will bring the O2, the Hospice nurse and a priest.

[djohn2oo8]

True. But, O & 43! +

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

helps the hurt hurt less.

tee, hee.

Does it really?

Jordan - Locked in at 6

Kobe - Locked in at 5

[4>0rings]

la fan grinding hard on the damage control

[daslicer]

True. But, O & 43! +

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

helps the hurt hurt less.

tee, hee.

That will never change but neither will this

Duncan: 3 Finals Mvps, 2 regular season Mvps

Kobe: 2 Finals Mvps, 1 regular season Mvp

[Giuseppe]

That will never change but neither will this

Duncan: 3 Finals Mvps, 2 regular season Mvps

Kobe: 2 Finals Mvps, 1 regular season Mvp

Fine. You have that.

I invented:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

& I'm holdin' on to it for dear life.

[wanggi]

Fine. You have that.

I invented:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

& I'm holdin' on to it at 0&63 for dear life.

:lol