View Full Version : Duncan not in the All defensive teams
eric365
05-09-2011, 01:35 PM
First Team:
C - Dwight Howard
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Rajon Rondo
Second Team:
C - Tyson Chandler
F - Joakim Noah
F - Andre Iguodala
G - Tony Allen
G - Chris Paul
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/05/09/2010-11-all-defensive-teams/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
Kobe being there by rep as usual.
First time of Duncan's career he is not there. Probably won't be all nba as well.
Second time in 22 years there is no Spurs :depressed
Spurtacus
05-09-2011, 01:38 PM
Noah just barely played half the season. 48 games. WTF?
eric365
05-09-2011, 01:39 PM
lol Kobe
Exactly. Tony Allen and Iggy were much better defensively this year.
It's a shame. Juste has to see how Durant was shut down by Tony Allen in the 4th quarter and overtime of game 3
in2deep
05-09-2011, 01:42 PM
:lol kobe
TDMVPDPOY
05-09-2011, 01:42 PM
kobe livin on reputation ahhahaa, wtf didnt he shut down terry or dirk in the series...fkn stern and his fabrication by-product for his product....
Kobe - what a joke! Wanna bet that Pop was one of the idiots who voted for him? Wonder if he'd vote for Tony Allen or Battier after the MEM series.
lefty
05-09-2011, 01:58 PM
Oh no, Duncan is not in the defensive team :cry :cry :cry
Sean Cagney
05-09-2011, 02:14 PM
Kobe is so damn overrated on D as I said a million times. His name gets him there alone.
Bill_Brasky
05-09-2011, 02:19 PM
Chandler should be 1st team with Howard tbh
eric365
05-09-2011, 03:18 PM
Oh no, Duncan is not in the defensive team :cry :cry :cry
Haven't seen anyone in this thread saying he deserved it or crying about it.
Spurs defense has not been great this year. And Duncan has obviously lost a step defensively.
It's just that it's the first time in his career...
dbreiden83080
05-09-2011, 03:25 PM
Lebron
Really...
ElNono
05-09-2011, 03:33 PM
Ends a long streak for Tim... but father time catches up to everybody...
eric365
05-09-2011, 03:43 PM
Maybe the reason Kobe is overated defensively for so many years is him playing with Fisher.
When a star PG start to be hot, they put Kobe on him and it help LA a lot (see OKC series last year).
But it's just because Fisher being soooooo bad defensively that the difference seems huge
Or it's just Stern, conspiracy, product marketing etc...
Exactly. Tony Allen and Iggy were much better defensively this year.
It's a shame. Juste has to see how Durant was shut down by Tony Allen in the 4th quarter and overtime of game 3
I agree 100% man. It's a total joke.
Kobe barely averaged 1 steal a game and 0.2 blocks per game. He couldn't guard anyone of worth in the play-offs. He hasn't been much more than lengthy on defense for years.
cantthinkofanything
05-09-2011, 04:25 PM
Franklin and Bash put up better defense than Kobe.
Lol @ 1st team. Kobe, Rondo, LeBron. WTF ? 2nd team would eat them alive in defense
J_Paco
05-09-2011, 06:27 PM
Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo and Kobe Bryant are all overrated defensively, but LeBron deserves his placement. I'm surprised that Luc Mbah a Moute, Andrew Bogut, Thabo Sefolosha, Aaron Afflalo, Dwyane Wade and Kirk Hinrich didn't get more votes. They all deserved to be chosen as well, IMO.
Timmy Duncan is no longer a elite-level defender, but is still good to very good. The demise of our defense has more to do with a lack of size/rim protection/shot blocking, minus Tim, and poor perimeter defense. Put Duncan on any competent defensive team (Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles, Boston, New Orleans) and he would thrive, IMO.
lefty
05-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Haven't seen anyone in this thread saying he deserved it or crying about it.
Spurs defense has not been great this year. And Duncan has obviously lost a step defensively.
It's just that it's the first time in his career...
True true
Danny.Zhu
05-10-2011, 12:19 AM
He shouldn't.
Fireball
05-10-2011, 01:56 AM
Kobe really only defended in that 17-1 stretch run the Lakers had ... shame
RuffnReadyOzStyle
05-10-2011, 06:19 AM
Allen's D is filthy - he should have made the first team, not Kobe.
As for Timmy, 1228 games on his legs and he's sadly on the decline. However, put the right team around him and he can still influence a game defensively, just like KG does for the Celts.
Phenomanul
05-10-2011, 10:49 AM
KG should not be on the first team...
GinobiliForTres
05-10-2011, 01:14 PM
First Team:
C - Dwight Howard
F - Kevin Garnett
F - LeBron James
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Rajon Rondo
Second Team:
C - Tyson Chandler
F - Joakim Noah
F - Andre Iguodala
G - Tony Allen
G - Chris Paul
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/05/09/2010-11-all-defensive-teams/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2
Kobe being there by rep as usual.
First time of Duncan's career he is not there. Probably won't be all nba as well.
Second time in 22 years there is no Spurs :depressed
Lack of Serge Ibaka is disappointing.
TJastal
05-10-2011, 01:22 PM
Duncan can't guard anyone these days.
Kobe being in this team all the time is such a joke. He's barely even an average defender.
Chandler's defense is really overrated. He is a great team defender, great help defender, great weak side shot blocker, mobile so he can guard away from the basket, can guard in the face up, pick and roll, etc..........
BUT, his low post man defense is atrocious. It is basically a zero and totally non-existent.
Chris Paul isn't a good defender at all. All he does is get steals basically. He's average on defense, at best.
It just shows how stupid most NBA coaches really are when you see these types of awards.
His post defense isn't that bad, its average at worst for a player of his size IMO.
TD 21
05-10-2011, 10:19 PM
How is it possible that Allen could be fourth in DPOY voting, yet finish behind Bryant on the All-defensive teams? I realize there's less competition from perimeter players than bigs, but why is Bryant making it off of reputation and Duncan isn't? At least Duncan is still amongst the best big defenders in the league. Bryant doesn't rank amongst perimeter players.
J_Paco
05-10-2011, 10:41 PM
Duncan can't guard anyone these days.
Kobe being in this team all the time is such a joke. He's barely even an average defender.
Chandler's defense is really overrated. He is a great team defender, great help defender, great weak side shot blocker, mobile so he can guard away from the basket, can guard in the face up, pick and roll, etc..........
BUT, his low post man defense is atrocious. It is basically a zero and totally non-existent.
Chris Paul isn't a good defender at all. All he does is get steals basically. He's average on defense, at best.
It just shows how stupid most NBA coaches really are when you see these types of awards.
Except for the last sentence everything you posted is pretty much common knowledge. NBA coaches get caught in the reputation game just like us fans or how else do you explain Kobe making the All-Defensive first-team nine times. Also, bullshit that Duncan can't defend anyone. He's still a quality defender but time, injury and a loss of focus on defense by his teammates and coaches has hurt him. Put him on Chicago, Miami, Boston, Los Angeles, Dallas or New Orleans and he'd excel.
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