Bulls @ Hawks Game 6 - 8 pm - ESPN

[TampaDude]

Referees for Game 6:
Joe Crawford, Bob Delaney, Ed Malloy
Alternate: Michael Smith

[Budkin]

I've underestimated the Hawks all series... they will force a game 7 tonight.

[Nick, the Nazi]

brought to you by???

[NewJerSpur]

It's about to go down.

[crc21209]

The Bulls better win tonight because ANYTHING can happen in a Game 7, even if it is at your house....

[Spur-Addict]

Solid hook from Smith

[NewJerSpur]

Boozer getting started early with easy offense....you don't want him to have to create his own shot.

[Spur-Addict]

Boozer getting started early with easy offense....you don't want him to have to create his own shot.

Pretty much a guaranteed push off for the offensive foul :lol

[NewJerSpur]

Pretty much a guaranteed push off for the offensive foul :lol

:rollin

Hey man, he's battling through "turf toe".

[Spur-Addict]

Tough shot made by Al

[Spur-Addict]

:rollin

Hey man, he's battling through his period

[NewJerSpur]

Rose and Smith throwing up nonsense.

[hitmanyr2k]

Speaking of shot selection....fuck the threes Rose. Put real pressure on the defense with the drive and midrange.

[TampaDude]

brought to you by???

Me! :lol

[NewJerSpur]

Wow, Noah developing the left hook on the fly in the playoffs.

[Spur-Addict]

Chicago frontline stepping up. They didn't like riding the pine in crunch time last game LOL

[TampaDude]

The Bulls better win tonight because ANYTHING can happen in a Game 7, even if it is at your house....

^ this

Bulls close it out tonight, though. :toast

[NewJerSpur]

Speaking of shot selection....fuck the threes Rose. Put real pressure on the defense with the drive and midrange.

Still don't understand why he shoots them, just seems like laziness, especially this early in the game.

[hitmanyr2k]

Chicago frontline stepping up. They didn't like riding the pine in crunch time last game LOL

Yeah, looks like they got the message. They better keep it up all game.

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah, looks like they got the message. They better keep it up all game.

They certainly look focused. If that continues, and the bench plays well they'll close out ATL easy. Rose is only a matter of aggression. 8-10 point margin.

[NewJerSpur]

The best thing the Bulls can do for Boozer moving forward if they want to get any use for him consistently on offense is to go with the Pick-n-Pop between he and Rose....they used to kill with that in Utah between he and D-Will because for a "big" Boozer's got a nice stroke. It would also give Derrick a rest from time to time.

[NewJerSpur]

Bulls making Hawks pay for the high trap with no rotation.

[davethedope]

Atlanta is pitiful. Tons of talent and nothing but chaos on the court.
They are probably the perfect illustration of what bad coaching does to talent.
People are always wondering what the fuck coaches are doing, myself included,
but it's pretty obvious this team has no discipline

[hitmanyr2k]

Cmon Boozer. Stop overpassing. That's a 12 foot jumpshot and you're passing to Noah in traffic.

[NewJerSpur]

Good foul by Smith.

[hitmanyr2k]

Damn...that sound like it hurt. Sick thud.

[ogait]

Trapping Rose when both Deng and Boozer are having their ways offensively is stupid.

Last game on the 4th the Bulls had a very weak offensive line up and they decided to check Rose 1 on 1 and got burned. Now probably overreacting to that.

Bad coaching by Atlanta.

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks got to run a better fast break than that.

[NewJerSpur]

Nice 3 IN RHYTHM for Rose rather than pulling up with a hand in his face.

[hitmanyr2k]

Stupid shot by Rose. He had Deng wide open.

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks don't seem to be playing with any real energy to start....like a loss can't end their season.

[hitmanyr2k]

At least the Atlanta crowd is better tonight. Doesn't seem to be as many Bulls fans.

[NewJerSpur]

Watson had nowhere to go on that break with Atlanta getting back in transition.

[redzero]

Teague broke his ass.

[Capt Bringdown]

I don't see the Hawks coming back from a 10 point deficit. On to Miami.

[ace3g]

definitely a broken arm

[Tinystarz]

:(

[InRareForm]

PG curse for ATLANTA

[NewJerSpur]

Kyle Korver turning into Mike miller out there prior to that shot.....he needs to get the stroke going because the Bulls can live with him being a liability on defense but not if he's shooting like Mike Miller.

[NewJerSpur]

definitely a broken arm

Just saw the replay again....YEESH, looked uglier than I thought from the live shot. :(

[NewJerSpur]

Damn, the Hawks seem to be mailing it in early. They need to try to get back to some of the high-low action with the bigs and less of the iso.

[NewJerSpur]

Nice decision by Rose.....looked to Boozer than got Noah on the misdirection.

[ogait]

Hawks are one of those teams that deal very bad with adversity. If they don't go on a run soon they will probably loose by a blow-out.

[hitmanyr2k]

Crawford always falls on the 3 point shot looking for the foul.

[NewJerSpur]

Willis Teague out this mofo. Bulls pouring it on.

[hitmanyr2k]

Atlanta needs to put Teague back in quick just for inspiration alone.

[NewJerSpur]

Crawford always falls on the 3 point shot looking for the foul.

Pissed me off against Orlando because he got some bogus calls based on the 4-point rep and some flopping to give the Hawks momentum at home.

[Spur-Addict]

This shit is over

[hitmanyr2k]

Rose can get a better shot than that. I hate when they waste possessions on shit like that.

[symple19]

Atlanta is done

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks down by double digits but not pressuring the ball on defense and allowing the Bulls to get into their sets pretty easily. Hawks need to get it below 10 before the end of the half.

[hitmanyr2k]

Josh Smith has had Rose dialed in on transition all series. Should have pulled that back out and ran offense.

[LkrFan]

End this shit Chicago. Don't fuck around.

[NewJerSpur]

Two bad decisions by Noah.

[hitmanyr2k]

Noah...that's the kind of shit that got you benched in Game 5. Should have just gone up with the shot instead of being indecisive and passing. Great oop by Smith.

[NewJerSpur]

Could've called Asik for the body on Teague.

[NewJerSpur]

Should be a foul on Smith.

[hitmanyr2k]

2nd game the Bulls have closed out the half looking like shit. They should have had a 20 point lead by now.

[NewJerSpur]

Great steal, stupid decision to not pull it out forthe final shot of the half to get some momentum for Atlanta going into the 2nd half.

[Jodelo]

As poorly as the Hawks play, just down 10. :D:D

Would have loved to see the Series with Hinrich!

[hitmanyr2k]

With the right coaching staff Josh Smith would be a beast.

[WeNeedLength]

With the right brain Josh Smith would be a beast.

fify :lol

[hitmanyr2k]

Haha...sometimes good coaching rubs off on a player's b-ball IQ. I think most competent coaches would have reeled Josh Smith in from taking those jumpshots by now.

[Spurologist]

This game is a wrap. First quarter winner wins every time. I'm starting to sound like Doug Collins

[LkrFan]

I think the Bulls' bench is nice and would be the difference between them and the Heat.

Chicago will win 4-2

[NewJerSpur]

BOOZER OUTSCORING CRAWFORD?! :wow

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks can still make a run but they need some easier baskets than the opps they're getting going one-on-one......maybe need to run more to shake the Bulls solid halfcourt defense.

[hitmanyr2k]

Noah was an offensive lineman on that drive by Rose lol.

[LkrFan]

I can't wait to see D-Whistle in foul trouble trying to guard Rose. In the open court Rose is AI on steroids.

[hitmanyr2k]

Beautiful defense.

[Spur-Addict]

Damn, Lkrfan is an outgright Heat hater LOL

[Spurologist]

I can't wait to see D-Whistle in foul trouble trying to guard Rose. In the open court Rose is AI on steroids.

Chalmers will likely be on him...makes more sense

[NewJerSpur]

Damn, Lkrfan is an outgright Heat hater LOL

The more the merrier :lol.

:toast

[hitmanyr2k]

What kind of fuckin possession was that?

[NewJerSpur]

Collins going Karl Malone.

[hitmanyr2k]

Preach Hubie :lol

[NewJerSpur]

Deng going MJ over Ehlo.

[Spur-Addict]

The more the merrier :lol.

:toast


I'm indifferent. By why is it that you (or others) hate the Heat?

[daspurs]

This shit needs to be over so miami can tap that ass

[Spur-Addict]

You know the night is going your way when Deng hits that LOL

[NewJerSpur]

That's Boozer's game from back in the Utah days.

[daspurs]

BTW hitman your a bitch

[NewcastleKEG]

Welcome to the 2011 Playoffs Boozer

[hitmanyr2k]

Well Hubie I think the Hawks are gonna take a chance on Boozer missing the jumper rather than Rose breaking them down in the paint. Good strategy considering the way Boozer has been playing in the playoffs.

[LkrFan]

Damn, Lkrfan is an outgright Heat hater LOL

:toast

[LkrFan]

The more the merrier :lol.

:toast

:tu :tu

[Spur-Addict]

:toast

Why the Heat hate?

[NewJerSpur]

I'm indifferent. By why is it that you (or others) hate the Heat?

I haven't liked the hype surrounding LeBron since he was in high school and felt that he's handled it poorly and has never really matured in the process. I think he's a MASSIVE frontrunner and was here tooting the horn for Orlando when they eliminated him in 2009 (when I 1st started getting on the Magic bandwagon). The decision and his half-hearted apology for it made me have even less repsect for him.

Not a big fan of Bosh at this point and his frontrunning, soft brand of basketball either. I could go in further on LeBron but I'm saving it for my book. :lol

[hitmanyr2k]

Fuck...Boozer trying to make sure Taj doesn't take his job. Game 5 was a wakeup call :lol

[hitmanyr2k]

:lol :lol :lol Asik sold the hell out of that shit. What the hell did Zaza even throw the elbow for in the first place?

[NewJerSpur]

Hawks getting frustrated now.

[JoeTait75]

Atlanta has shot its wad. But at least they put up a fight in the second round this time.

[hitmanyr2k]

The Turkish Hammer!!

[NewJerSpur]

The Bulls frontline is just bullying Atlanta on the boards.

[ace3g]

Luc Longley with the power dunk!!!

[Spur-Addict]

I haven't liked the hype surrounding LeBron since he was in high school and felt that he's handled it poorly and has never really matured in the process. I think he's a MASSIVE frontrunner and was here tooting the horn for Orlando when they eliminated him in 2009 (when I 1st started getting on the Magic bandwagon). The decision and his half-hearted apology for it made me have even less repsect for him.

Not a big fan of Bosh at this point and his frontrunning, soft brand of basketball either. I could go in further on LeBron but I'm saving it for my book. :lol

What do you mean by, "handled it poorly"? Why should he have to apologize for switching teams? And fuck Bosh, he's soft as Gerber food.


Fuck...Boozer trying to make sure Taj doesn't take his job. Game 5 was a wakeup call :lol

Oh yeah, Boozer vs Bosh :lol

[LkrFan]

Why the Heat hate?

They were given too much (hype) way before they won a damn game. Meanwhile my boys were an afterthought although they just won back to back titles. Pissed me off and I've been hating on them ever since.

I still think they are a gimmick team. Wade and LBJ are both streaky shooters that get away too often with putting their heads down and barrelling down the lane. 98.7% they get "fouled" which results in an And-1 or FTAs. It's sickening. Especially when Kobe doesn't even dunk more than once every 12 games, yet he is broken up (fingers, knees, ankle) even though he is primarily a jump shooter.

LBJ and Wade are talented, but they get ref help to make the average fan think they are better than they are. I still say they won't ring this year. I honestly think that Chicago (ECF) can take them out or Dallas/OKC will take them out (Finals).

Fuck the Heat. :toast

[ogait]

Asik continues to impress, making a good case to get more minutes since Noah hasn't been playing that good.

Anyway this is over. When does Miami Chicago starts :hungry:

[LkrFan]

Luc Longley with the power dunk!!!
:lol

[hitmanyr2k]

Wow...I thought Dr. Jack was old back in the early 90's. It's amazing he's still around.

[NewJerSpur]

What do you mean by, "handled it poorly"? Why should he have to apologize for switching teams? And fuck Bosh, he's soft as Gerber food.

Not switching teams in terms of his handling, but the lame fashion in which he did it and then tried to make it seem like a goodwill thing when he involved the charity to deflect from the egotistical show he was putting on....if it was all about charity, why apologize, even if it was halfhearted/insincere-sounding and coming after you think you got the win that would cash your ticket to a ring so you were feeling good about yourself?

Bosh is along for the ride.

[NewJerSpur]

Wow...I thought Dr. Jack was old back in the early 90's. It's amazing he's still around.

Yeah, seriously.

[daspurs]

Not switching teams in terms of his handling, but the lame fashion in which he did it and then tried to make it seem like a goodwill thing when he involved the charity to deflect from the egotistical show he was putting on....if it was all about charity, why apologize, even if it was halfhearted/insincere-sounding and coming after you think you got the win that would cash your ticket to a ring so you were feeling good about yourself.

Bosh is along for the ride.

Your just a hater face it. You cant bear to see lebron win a ring. Your a hoe tbh

[NewJerSpur]

Your just a hater face it. You cant bear to see lebron win a ring. Your a hoe tbh

Hoe or hater? Pick one.

[NewJerSpur]

Crawford had 4 points at the beginning of the 2nd half, now he has 6 to start the 4th?! :wow

[hitmanyr2k]

Strong finish by Asik with two hands. Nice.

[NewJerSpur]

Surprised Asik got that off.

[NewJerSpur]

Anyone else see the Hawk mascott at the bottom of the screen? :lol

Take note hitman, this is how it's going to go down tomorrow night my friend. :p:

[Spur-Addict]

They were given too much (hype) way before they won a damn game. Meanwhile my boys were an afterthought although they just won back to back titles. Pissed me off and I've been hating on them ever since.

I still think they are a gimmick team. Wade and LBJ are both streaky shooters that get away too often with putting their heads down and barrelling down the lane. 98.7% they get "fouled" which results in an And-1 or FTAs. It's sickening. Especially when Kobe doesn't even dunk more than once every 12 games, yet he is broken up (fingers, knees, ankle) even though he is primarily a jump shooter.

LBJ and Wade are talented, but they get ref help to make the average fan think they are better than they are. I still say they won't ring this year. I honestly think that Chicago (ECF) can take them out or Dallas/OKC will take them out (Finals).

Fuck the Heat. :toast

Your boys were an afterthought, yet are out of the playoffs by means of sweep. Not trying to talk shit at all. Heat are still in the playoffs, and are now the favorites. Is it their fault that the Hype is there? I think not.

I don't see how you think a team with two top five players on the roster is a gimmick team. When you have two big scorers, naturally you alternate the scoring load. There's nothing streaky about it as they are proven scorers. They take quite a bit of shots for their team and more often than not they are both bound to get into a rhythm at some point.

They both are super athletic like Rose, and get to the basket with ease. Much like other wing players in the prime over the course of history, they draw contact due to drives. Kobe was the same in his prime.

Kobe is losing his athleticism, and pump fakes a lot now. He has lost some ability to beat his man off the dribble as opposed to his former self. He's getting older, and consequently must work harder to maintain production. He's getting wear and tear as well. You can't pin it all on how the opposition plays him. That's pretty weak IMO.

You're pretty much saying that any of the remaining teams can beat the Heat. Time will tell. It's easier taking the field as opposed to one team. We'll see.

[hitmanyr2k]

Anyone else see the Hawk mascott at the bottom of the screen? :lol

Take note hitman, this is how it's going to go down tomorrow night my friend. :p:

Nah....the Grizz have a MUCH better homecourt than the Hawks and they play the same kind of intense defense as the Bulls when they're hyped. They've really kept Durant and Westbrook in check during first halves for the mostpart. It's OKC's bench that's given them trouble, mainly Harden. I think they'll take it to the first Game 7 of the playoffs.

[Spur-Addict]

Not switching teams in terms of his handling, but the lame fashion in which he did it and then tried to make it seem like a goodwill thing when he involved the charity to deflect from the egotistical show he was putting on....if it was all about charity, why apologize, even if it was halfhearted/insincere-sounding and coming after you think you got the win that would cash your ticket to a ring so you were feeling good about yourself?

Bosh is along for the ride.

I don't think you'd care about how a player announces his switching of teams if it was Matt Bonner, or any other player of that stature.

I'm sure he feels an attachment to Cleve seeing as how he's from there, but as most players are, he was concerned about his personal success. Who isn't? At the end of the day you must put yourself in the best position for success. What success means is different in many cases, but we all know he wants to win. When you mean that much to a franchise, you're going to get shit no matter what when you leave.

A lot of players have egos and can put on a show. Do you hate them too?

[NewJerSpur]

You don't realy see Smith spin to his left when backing down in the post, he always kicks it out or goes for the hook which is easy to defend if you have length because it's easy to anticipate.

[hitmanyr2k]

Thibs voice :lol :lol :lol I didn't think anyone could have a worse voice than Bill Cartwright. You can still hear him yelling.

[hitmanyr2k]

Hawks fans leaving already.

[TampaDude]

This shit's over, folks.

Gonna be Heat and Bulls in the ECF.

[Spur-Addict]

Will ATL get 70? LOL

[NewJerSpur]

I don't think you'd care about how a player announces his switching of teams if it was Matt Bonner, or any other player of that stature.

I'm sure he feels an attachment to Cleve seeing as how he's from there, but as most players are, he was concerned about his personal success. Who isn't? At the end of the day you must put yourself in the best position for success. What success means is different in many cases, but we all know he wants to win. When you mean that much to a franchise, you're going to get shit no matter what when you leave.

A lot of players have egos and can put on a show. Do you hate them too?

No matter who it was I'd think it was lame and cheesy, it's worse because it was LeBron who's had a history of doing lame/cheesy things since coming into the league. He made the decision in the best interest for him in terms of winning becase he had a solid, future HOF'er that could take pressure off of him, so to a degree I can't fault him. On the other hand, with what he'd help to build up in Cleveland I would've had more respect if he'd stayed and saw it through. That's just me.

In terms of ego, how many egotistical players stage a one-on-one sitdown to announce their free agency on primetime and then try to pass it off as charity to deflect heat (no pun intneded)? I'm not big on egos in general, but that was over the top imo.

[timtonymanu]

This was so boring.

I was hoping ATL would at least make it interesting.

[NewJerSpur]

Nah....the Grizz have a MUCH better homecourt than the Hawks and they play the same kind of intense defense as the Bulls when they're hyped. They've really kept Durant and Westbrook in check during first halves for the mostpart. It's OKC's bench that's given them trouble, mainly Harden. I think they'll take it to the first Game 7 of the playoffs.

Their homecourt is better, you're right, BUT it couldn't give them the push to take a pivotal lead in overtime though it did give them that something extra to take advantage of the Thunder's miscues (and Westbrook's screwups) at the end of Game 3. They do a good job in terms of ball denial on the perimeter, but they've left the lane open most of the series because they can't stay in front of any of OKC's wings if they keep their dribble. Hollins left Z-Bo and Gasol in the Game last night longer than he should while Brooks got his guys rest when the game got out of hand, so we'll see if that factor's in.

Looking forward to it.....:hungry:

[LkrFan]

Your boys were an afterthought, yet are out of the playoffs by means of sweep. Not trying to talk shit at all. Heat are still in the playoffs, and are now the favorites. Is it their fault that the Hype is there? I think not.
Not butthurt that my boys are out of the 'offs. It wasn't our year and I fully expect them to be in the thick of things next year.


I don't see how you think a team with two top five players on the roster is a gimmick team. When you have two big scorers, naturally you alternate the scoring load. There's nothing streaky about it as they are proven scorers. They take quite a bit of shots for their team and more often than not they are both bound to get into a rhythm at some point.

They both are super athletic like Rose, and get to the basket with ease. Much like other wing players in the prime over the course of history, they draw contact due to drives. Kobe was the same in his prime.
Fair points, but I still say they get more help from the refs than they need. Sure Kobe doesn't go to the hole like he used to, but explain to me why he is beat up? I mean, how does a jump shooter suffer broken fingers? Laker fans everywhere have acknowledged that ever since the Colorado incident, the refs generally swallow their whistles with him. He will go several games at a time without an FTA when clearly he was fouled. If you so much as sneeze at LBJ or Wade, it's a foul. If the refs call the game the same for everybody you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. But we know that's not the case.


Kobe is losing his athleticism, and pump fakes a lot now. He has lost some ability to beat his man off the dribble as opposed to his former self. He's getting older, and consequently must work harder to maintain production. He's getting wear and tear as well. You can't pin it all on how the opposition plays him. That's pretty weak IMO.
No, I'm saying that lesser players get to rough him up because they know the refs won't call a foul more often than not. It has to be damn near an obvious flagrant foul for him to get a FTA.


You're pretty much saying that any of the remaining teams can beat the Heat. Time will tell. It's easier taking the field as opposed to one team. We'll see.

Well, these Bulls swept them 3-0 and they are 0-2 against Dallas. I'm not sure what the series is against OKC, but we know that they were 0-3 against Boston when Perkins was there. OKC >> Boston this year. So I like the odds of the Heat not winning it all this year. But like you said, we will see.

Go Bulls/Thunder/Dallas! :toast

[NewJerSpur]

Korver's going to have to find his shot in the next round before Miller possibly finds his. Going to need that scoring outlet in Chicago.

[Frenzy]

Hawks fans leaving already.

Sad.


Stay to applaud your teams effort in the season you fuckers.

[hitmanyr2k]

Their homecourt is better, you're right, BUT it couldn't give them the push to take a pivotal lead in overtime though it did give them that something extra to take advantage of the Thunder's miscues (and Westbrook's screwups) at the end of Game 3. They do a good job in terms of ball denial on the perimeter, but they've left the lane open most of the series because they can't stay in front of any of OKC's wings if they keep their dribble. Hollins left Z-Bo and Gasol in the Game last night longer than he should while Brooks got his guys rest when the game got out of hand, so we'll see if that factor's in.

Looking forward to it.....:hungry:


ZBo knows he's played like shit the last couple of games. He won't play like that 3 games in a row. I expect him to go physically at every Thunder defender including Collison and put them on their heels. And some time this series Tony Allen has to make some layups :lol I've lost count the blown layups the Grizz have had in this series. Game 6 they'll drop.

[NewJerSpur]

Hopefully Noah and Asik whack the hell out of Bosh, epsecially if the Bulls go small.

[Spur-Addict]

No matter who it was I'd think it was lame and cheesy, it's worse because it was LeBron who's had a history of doing lame/cheesy things since coming into the league. He made the decision in the best interest for him in terms of winning becase he had a solid, future HOF'er that could take pressure off of him, so to a degree I can't fault him. On the other hand, with what he'd help to build up in Cleveland I would've had more respect if he'd stayed and saw it through. That's just me.

In terms of ego, how many egotistical players stage a one-on-one sitdown to announce their free agency on primetime and then try to pass it off as charity to deflect heat (no pun intneded)? I'm not big on egos in general, but that was over the top imo.

Respect in regards to what? Getting talent to come there? If other really good players don't want to play there, you can't fault him for their decisions. And without good players, he isn't winning anything except for what he did with what he had. Which, was pretty damn good if you look at it. He had no real second option his entire time in Cleve.

No other player has called a conference to announce his switching of teams, that's right. But is it any different from a player announcing he's going into the draft from college, or high school (In years past) by means of press conference etc? I think not.

Furthermore, other players have done egotistical things once paired, or with the intent to be paired with other great players. Example, Paul Pierce saying he's the best player in the world a little bit ago when the Celtics were rolling and on top of the world.

[LkrFan]

Notice how the Bulls celebrated their win v. how the Heat were crying and whooping it up. The Bulls closed out the Hawks on the road. I think they are ready.

[NewJerSpur]

Respect in regards to what? Getting talent to come there? If other really good players don't want to play there, you can't fault him for their decisions. And without good players, he isn't winning anything except for what he did with what he had. Which, was pretty damn good if you look at it. He had no real second option his entire time in Cleve.

No other player has called a conference to announce his switching of teams, that's right. But is it any different from a player announcing he's going into the draft from college, or high school (In years past) by means of press conference etc? I think not.

Furthermore, other players have done egotistical things once paired, or with the intent to be paired with other great players. Example, Paul Pierce saying he's the best player in the world a little bit ago when the Celtics were rolling and on top of the world.

He made it to the Finals with said team and was up 2-1 against last year's Eastern Conference champs.....whether players like the city of Cleveland or not, if they think playing with him and the opportunities it affords gives them a chance to win they'd come.

The kids who announce they're entering the draft don't get primetime slots to do so on major networks.....some of "The Decision" is on the network that covered the nonsense, but normally press conferences for such signing in professional sports take place when contracts are signed and the player is getting welcomed to the team, not just when he's making his choice which we should all be so fortunate to hear.

And I don't give PP a pass for the nonsense he spewed out following the Big 3 trade in Boston and have never been a big fan in general (though I did root for Bposton to beat the Heat) just like I'm not giving LeBron a pass like he's been given so often.

[Spur-Addict]

Notice how the Bulls celebrated their win v. how the Heat were crying and whooping it up. The Bulls closed out the Hawks on the road. I think they are ready.

Definetly celebrated in a proper manner I agree. Heat should've been better about it.

[Budkin]

That was the Hawks team I was expecting to see in the playoffs.

[Spur-Addict]

He made it to the Finals with said team and was up 2-1 against last year's Eastern Conference champs.....whether players like the city of Cleveland or not, if they think playing with him and the opportunities it affords gives them a chance to win they'd come.

The kids who announce they're entering the draft don't get primetime slots to do so on major networks.....some of "The Decision" is on the network that covered the nonsense, but normally press conferences for such signing in professional sports take place when contracts are signed and the player is getting welcomed to the team, not just when he's making his choice which we should all be so fortunate to hear.

And I don't give PP a pass for the nonsense he spewed out following the Big 3 trade in Boston and have never been a big fan in general (though I did root for Bposton to beat the Heat) just like I'm not giving LeBron a pass like he's been given so often.

He was there 7 ish years. Went to the finals like you said. Dismantled the Power Pistons roster in a shocking manner. You don't think other players thought playing with him would give them a shot at winning? He was one of the best players in the league during that entire time. The best player he had was Mo Williams LOL Then, an old Jamison. He would've rotted there and everyone knows it. Teams like Cleve don't get collusion trades like L.A and Boston.

College/High School players do end up on Sportscenter when announcing. Especially the good ones, like when Kobe came out. You remember that non-sense, suit and shades, etc.

Could've went about it different, but he didn't, and so many other players don't either.

[NewJerSpur]

He was there 7 ish years. Went to the finals like you said. Dismantled the Power Pistons roster in a shocking manner. You don't think other players thought playing with him would give them a shot at winning? He was one of the best players in the league during that entire time. The best player he had was Mo Williams LOL Then, an old Jamison. He would've rotted there and everyone knows it. Teams like Cleve don't get collusion trades like L.A and Boston.

College/High School players do end up on Sportscenter when announcing. Especially the good ones, like when Kobe came out. You remember that non-sense, suit and shades, etc.

Could've went about it different, but he didn't, and so many other players don't either.

I didn't like the trade for Jamison when it took place and was never impressed by Mo, but even with the some of the decisions the Cavs made with the team they still won. They botched the Amare trade but had he committed to going back to the Cavs with the free agency period within the last year I think he could've gotten someone like Amare to come over. It might have been a year off but there were also discussions with Chris Paul in regards to him possibly coming over at some point given his familiarity with Byron Scott.

Again, professional athletes don't have primetime specials they try to front with charities to announce their decisions via free agency, they have conferences after the fact when signing deals. That's why he apologized for the show almost a year after the fact. He tried to put himself on a hire pedastal than his peers and set a precedent but it made him looking even more egotistical in the process. Maybe he feels he missedd out on the college experience and wanted to revert back to the way things are done there but even in those cases many of the kids are signing letters of intent (contracts) on the same occasion, like the pros due when they have press conference and sign off on deals.

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What a piss poor performance by Atlanta....

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I didn't like the trade for Jamison when it took place and was never impressed by Mo, but even with the some of the decisions the Cavs made with the team they still won. They botched the Amare trade but had he committed to going back to the Cavs with the free agency period within the last year I think he could've gotten someone like Amare to come over. It might have been a year off but there were also discussions with Chris Paul in regards to him possibly coming over at some point given his familiarity with Byron Scott.


This is what you call a gamble with your future as opposed to an almost sure thing in what he has now.

He was there 7 ish years with no result. He owes Cleve nothing, time to move on.

Conference=Dick move, but not enough for me to hate the guy.

He is the best player in the league IMO. A lot of players have stupid nicknames. Black Mamba, Merlin, Etc. LBJ is no different

[NewJerSpur]

This is what you call a gamble with your future as opposed to an almost sure thing in what he has now.

He was there 7 ish years with no result. He owes Cleve nothing, time to move on.

Conference=Dick move, but not enough for me to hate the guy.

He is the best player in the league IMO. A lot of players have stupid nicknames. Black Mamba, Merlin, Etc. LBJ is no different

The CP3 talks were that, just talks, so in that regard you're right in that it would've been a gamble to try to work a trade and free agency down the line would've been a tossup as well, but I still think with Scott and LeBron there (and who knows who else) they might've pulled it off. In terms of Amare, the Cavs didn't pull the trigger and decided to go down the same road Boston went down this year: rolling the dice on Shaq, which at this point in his career is an automatic fail. That said, if Amare knew James was coming back to Cleveland it would've been pretty enticing imo, even with bigger market teams eying him as well, because he would've had a great opportunity to win and the 2 of them would've attracted attention from other Free Agents. If Amare comes to Cleveland, there's still no doubt whose team it is because Bron was there 1st and they both play different positions/have different roles. Down in Miami, the team's identity can be a tossup at times but it's largely still seen as D-Wade's team and what that does to leBron legacy remains to be seen.

"The Decision" is just one of the reasons I'm not a big fan, but again, I've followed him long enough to see multiple acts on his part to backup/validate my opinions on dude. I do think he's one of the best athletes in sports PERIOD, but also think his abilities have afforded him the benefit of some suspect officiating which has made him look even greater than I feel he is. He could be a totally different person behind closed doors than he shows in the media and there could be things about him that would make me change my mind regarding certain ideas I have about him, but to date I haven't seen much from many of his antics.

And I have a lot of repsect for you as well as Harlem and other LeBron defenders around here, even if we disagree, but I see things differently when it comes to "King James" than most.