Predict winner of Draft Lottery

[TD 21]

I'll say the Cavs. They'll want to help them after what James put them through and to stem the tide, as far as local interest waning. I also think the Raptors will move up to two, with the Timberwolves being the big loser and sliding to three. Like the Cavs, they'll want to help the Raptors after what Bosh put them through. Another reason I think they'll help them is the other prime candidates. They helped the Wizards last season by giving them a franchise player and the Timberwolves and Kings (along with the Grizzlies and Raptors), they've shown less inclination to help than any other teams. Plus, if they help the Kings now, it'll be highly suspicious (not that that's stopped them in the past), what with this being their last gasp attempt at staying in Sacramento long term. Also, the top two prospects are much better fits on the Cavs and Raptors than they would be on the Timberwolves and to a lesser extent, the Kings. Finally, neither of the top two prospects is projected to be a franchise savior, which is perfect for Cleveland and Toronto. Sure, they gave the Cavs James, but that was because he was local. The reality is, if an O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc. was available in this draft, there's zero chance they'd be going to Cleveland or Toronto.

[DPG21920]

Random prediction: Clippers get the number 1 pick.

[Nick Manning]

Jazz, who will draft Matt Howard with the first pick.

[monosylab1k]

jesus christ, i mean i knew GNSF was stupid and made shitty threads, but jesus christ.

[Kyle Orton]

The Jazz aren't passing on Jimmer if he's there when they pick. No fucking way.

[JoeTait75]

I'll say the Cavs. They'll want to help them after what James put them through and to stem the tide, as far as local interest waning.

They rigged the 2003 Lottery for us and we still fucked it up. We're not getting a mulligan for that one.

[redzero]

They rigged the 2003 Lottery for us and we still fucked it up. We're not getting a mulligan for that one.

:rolleyes

[DPG21920]

But yes, the thread is rayjay

[Nick Manning]

The Jazz aren't passing on Jimmer if he's there when they pick. No fucking way.

lol oh yeah how'd i forget the jimmer...

[baseline bum]

The Jazz aren't passing on Jimmer if he's there when they pick. No fucking way.

They'd trade down for Cleveland's two picks to take Jimmer 2-4 and then Howard with the #8.

[rayjayjohnson]

The Jazz aren't passing on Jimmer if he's there when they pick. No fucking way.

:lol

[daslicer]

The Charlotte Bobcats

[DJ Mbenga]

somehow the cavs get the first and 3rd overall picks in the horrible draft.

[Girasuck]

The Jazz aren't passing on Jimmer if he's there when they pick. No fucking way.

Finally a post from this fucking idiot that I somewhat agree with. We won't take him at 6, but I guarantee you we take him at 12.

[jacobdrj]

The winner of the draft lottery will ultimately be the guy who gets drafted by the Bulls...

[2pac > Kobe]

cleveland basketball is gonna be back next season

[John Hollinger]

Many will tell you that statistically Minnesota, Cleveland, and Toronto are the 3 teams with the best odds to win the lottery. What they fail to take into account, however, are a series of factors and algorithms that I've put together in my TLDR (True Lottery Draft Rating) system.

When factoring recent statistical evidence from past draft lotteries, along with a series of important factors such as players with Viking ancestry, military prowess, field mouse expertise, dong length, fickleness, and overall intestinal health, you'll see that these are really the top 3 teams in terms of odds to win the lottery -

1. Utah Jazz (from NJ)
2. Utah Jazz
3. Houston Rockets

Statistically this is the true rating system we should be going by. Trivial matters like indisputable facts and percentages should be ignored.

[baseline bum]

somehow the cavs get the first and 3rd overall picks in the horrible draft.

You wouldn't be happy as hell to draft Kyrie Irving? Did you see how well he was running that Duke team early in the year and how they went from unbeatable to just 'pretty good' without him? I'd be pissed to get 3rd. Don't get me wrong; I'd much rather have the top pick next year when guys like Davis, Barnes, Sullinger, Rivers, McAdoo, Gilchrist, Jones, Miller, etc. could be available, but I'd stil love to have Kyrie as a starting PG to rebuild around.

[Ashy Larry]

Draft just isn't fun anymore ..... the kids coming out of college really don't do anything for me and their games are so unprepared for the league ........

[Kai]

Toronto

[Texas Chili Dog]

It will be the Nets. Mark it down.

[Shane27]

wizards win

[Kyle Orton]

Finally a post from this fucking idiot that I somewhat agree with. We won't take him at 6, but I guarantee you we take him at 12.

lol racist Jazz fan thinking Jimmer is gonna be any good in the NBA

[Proxy]

Spurs

/sarcasm

[Horry For 3!]

I'll say Toronto gets the first pick.

[Killakobe81]

The Clips ... Blake deserves it ... wait do the Clips own their lottery pick this year? LOL

[frodo]

cavs imho, as a compensation fo lebrons departure imho

[lefty]

Toronto

Its on bitches

[Killakobe81]

Kyrie goes to TWolves, Kahn gets a valid excuse to trade Rubio ...

[lefty]

Kevin Johnson: "we dont have fair weather fans "

LOL los angeles

[Killakobe81]

If Kings get Dwiliams from Zona, he evans Thorton and Cousins could be filthy ...but they would need a great play-maker to make that all work ...

[Killakobe81]

Kevin Johnson: "we dont have fair weather fans "

LOL los angeles

LOL yes, they do. Otherwise their team would not of been in jeopardy ...

To be fair, their region was hit hardest by the mortgage crisis Cali as a whole was hurt, but Sacto area was slaughtered ...

[Andrew Cunanan]

Kings, tbh

[lefty]

LOL yes, they do. Otherwise their team would not of been in jeopardy ...

To be fair, their region was hit hardest by the mortgage crisis Cali as a whole was hurt, but Sacto area was slaughtered ...

I hope they will get a new arena next year

[Killakobe81]

Are we serious ...get to the freaking game ...draft lottery ...Magic is my all-time favorite player but hearing him talk gives me headaches.

ESPN drags shit out too much ...wish both games were on TNT.

[Andrew Cunanan]

Are we serious ...get to the freaking game.

ESPN drags shit out too much ...wish both games were on TNT ...

There's only one game on tonight.

[lefty]

Lol that shit looks rigged

Ok maybe not Toronto

Stern will make it up to Sacto, or ease the pain of Cav fan

[Killakobe81]

There's only one game on tonight.

I realize that. I meant to say both SERIES. My mistake.

[Kyle Orton]

for all the morons saying the lottery is rigged, Ernst & Young's reputation as a big 4 accounting firm would be ruined if they took part in falsely verified the honesty of a rigged draft

[lefty]

Lol Wall looks stoned

[Killakobe81]

This chick asking teh lame questions ...who is that? are you serious what are your chances?

ESPN i have supported a long while but Im starting to see why people trash them, even former anchors like Patrick, Olberman and Kilborn.

[Andrew Cunanan]

lol Nick Gilbert...he's going to grow up hating black people, imho. Kids are very impressionable

[Killakobe81]

Wow are they serious putting that Gilbert kid ...and feeding this corny chick the chance to be even more cheesy ...

Oh was that Heather Cox?

[Andrew Cunanan]

lol rockets

[Andrew Cunanan]

there goes my kings pick...

[Killakobe81]

LOL Baron Davis deal? so Clips gave up top 3 pick? ROFL

[lefty]

Kevin johnson's jersey number

7

[Killakobe81]

OK well top 4 pick ...

[2pac > Kobe]

cleveland basketball is gonna be back next season

[baseline bum]

LOL Baron Davis deal? so Clips gave up top 3 pick? ROFL

:rollin

[crc21209]

:lol Dumbass Clippers....

[baseline bum]

Of the 3 left, I hope Cleveland drafts #1 so they can take Irving.

[crc21209]

The Cavs have the #4 pick and a Top 3 pick as well....damn.

[Texas Chili Dog]

Cavs get two picks in the top 4. Awesome. :lol

I stupidly picked the Nets before to win the lottery because I didn't realize their pick belongs to Utah. So I'll just take the same spot to jump to #1 and pick the Jazz to land it.

[Killakobe81]

for all the morons saying the lottery is rigged, Ernst & Young's reputation as a big 4 accounting firm would be ruined if they took part in falsely verified the honesty of a rigged draft

You bring up a good point, but NBA fans love conspiracy theories. You are one of the few fans that calls out his star player, coach, owner BEFORE you blame Stern.

Funny thing is, Stern stuck your team with one of the "biggest burritos in the bunghole", in recent memory ...

[Kyle Orton]

LOL Baron Davis deal? so Clips gave up top 3 pick? ROFL

:lmao

[crc21209]

Of the 3 left, I hope Cleveland drafts #1 so they can take Irving.

I want Minnesota to get it, so they can fuck it up and draft yet another guard....:lol

[baseline bum]

The Cavs have the #4 pick and a Top 3 pick as well....damn.

If they get #3 and #4 it'll still be a disaster in this shit draft.

[Andrew Cunanan]

What's wrong with that Gilbert kid? He looks terminal imho

[crc21209]

:lol Rigged....

[lefty]

Lol that shit looks rigged

Ok maybe not Toronto

Stern will make it up to Sacto, or ease the pain of Cav fan

Oh well


:lmao

[Andrew Cunanan]

Kyrie Irving in Cleveland

[Texas Chili Dog]

:rollin

CAVS!! :lol

[Girasuck]

lol at Stern rigging the draft again to ease the LeBron decision.

[timtonymanu]

Will Irving leave after his 7th year in Cleveland?

[Killakobe81]

Cavs luck strikes again ...Davis and Irving huh?


Tait. Do you package Davis and one of the picks for an upgrade at two or 3? Do you pass on Irving?

[Kyle Orton]

You bring up a good point, but NBA fans love conspiracy theories. You are one of the few fans that calls out his star player, coach, owner BEFORE you blame Stern.

Funny thing is, Stern stuck your team with one of the "biggest burritos in the bunghole", in recent memory ...

Well I have too much knowledge of accounting firms to even pretend this is rigged.......the Arthur Anderson scandal happened years ago, but accounting firms are still scared shitless to even push ethical limits because of what happened there.

:lmao

[crc21209]

Not so great draft anyway, whoever Cleveland takes won't be LeBron that's for damn sure.....

[baseline bum]

Good for Cleveland. Go with the sure thing Irving at #1 and then get a high-risk Euro (or Kanter) at 4. LOL @ the Clippers....

G Irving
G Gordon
F Aminu
F Griffin
C Jordan

[Shane27]

did anybody see the face the gilbert kid made when he was standing by his dad being interviewed. Looked like he was about to hack up a lung. He probably has a few years tbh

[Killakobe81]

LOL Baron Davis ...his life has went to shit since the ASB ...

[crc21209]

:lol Irving is thinking "Fuck! I have to revive this fucking city by myself now!" :lol

[Kyle Orton]

meant to finish my last post with ":lmao Clippers"

[Mugen]

lol Jimmer going #3.

[timtonymanu]

Wow! LA could have had another #1 pick.

Lol trading for Mo Williams

[lefty]

So Cleveland is gonna pick Miami's next PG

[JoeTait75]

Cavs luck strikes again ...Davis and Irving huh?


Tait. Do you package Davis and one of the picks for an upgrade at two or 3? Do you pass on Irving?

Hell no, you don't pass on Irving. You grab him and don't look back.

God, I love the Clip Show. Only thing keeping the Cavaliers from being the shittiest franchise in basketball for the last four decades.

[baseline bum]

Not so great draft anyway, whoever Cleveland takes won't be LeBron that's for damn sure.....

That's obvious. LeBron-level talents come around maybe every ten years. Hopefully their front-office doesn't give Irving 1,000,000 reasons to leave like they did LeBron.

[Andrew Cunanan]

What's wrong with that Gilbert kid? He looks terminal imho


did anybody see the face the gilbert kid made when he was standing by his dad being interviewed. Looked like he was about to hack up a lung. He probably has a few years tbh

What's he got?

[Killakobe81]

lol Jimmer going #3.

Nah they pick Williams if he is there and take Jimmer with the next pick ...

[LnGrrrR]

Is their even a savior this year? Haven't heard much about the draft to be honest.

[crc21209]

Dan Gilbert on Twitter: "FUCK YOU LEBRON!, WE STAAAAAAACCCCKKKEEDD CLEVELAND!" :lol

[baseline bum]

Still, I'm happy to see Cleveland with a nice piece to rebuild. Good luck to the Cavs.

[Shane27]

So Cleveland is gonna pick Miami's next PG

:downspin:

[Andrew Cunanan]

Nah they pick Williams if he is there and take Jimmer with the next pick ...

It's Utah...

[Girasuck]

Dan Gilbert on Twitter: "FUCK YOU LEBRON!, WE STAAAAAAACCCCKKKEEDD CLEVELAND!" :lol

:rollin

[baseline bum]

Is their even a savior this year? Haven't heard much about the draft to be honest.

Nope. But Irving is going to be a really good PG.

[Mugen]

Nah they pick Williams if he is there and take Jimmer with the next pick ...

unless Williams renounces his blackness in the next couple of months, Jimmers goin #3.

[4>0rings]

:lol Irving is thinking "Fuck! I have to revive this fucking city by myself now!" :lol
He's already thinking about his decision and where he's going to take his talents when rookie contract is up.:lol

[JoeTait75]

This is the fourth time the Cavaliers have had the #1 overall pick*. The first three they used on Austin Carr, Brad Daugherty and LeBron James. So not a bad track record.

*- Not counting 1982, when the Lake Show had Cleveland's #1 overall pick and used it on James Worthy.

[Mugen]

not a big irving fan either, i think Cavs should go Williams.

but im super excited to see how kahn is going to face fuck that 2nd pick, even in a shitty ass draft.

[Thunder Dan]

Not so great draft anyway, whoever Cleveland takes won't be LeBron that's for damn sure.....

yeah hopefully we get a winner and not a guy who chokes on the big stage

[JamStone]

G Irving
G Gordon
F Aminu
F Griffin
C Jordan

Dammmmmmmnnn... but at least they have Mo Williams and got rid of Baron since "this is a weak draft."

Cleveland definitely should take Irving. I think they should take Alec Burks with #4 and have their backcourt set for the next 7 years before each leaves for other teams.

[Andrew Cunanan]

can't wait to see Irving's first game in 2013

[Kyle Orton]

Cavs would fuckin swole if they got Irving and Derrick Williams. I'm gonna cut my wrists if Derrick Williams ends up with the racist inbreds in Utah

[JoeTait75]

Cleveland definitely should take Irving. I think they should take Alec Burks with #4 and have their backcourt set for the next 7 years before each leaves for other teams.

Detroit fan taking shots at Cleveland?

[Andrew Cunanan]

yes, a JoeTait-Jamstone fight is what this forum needs

[crc21209]

yeah hopefully we get a winner and not a guy who chokes on the big stage

:lol U mad?

[JoeTait75]

give me Kyrie Irving and the kid from San Diego State at #4 and I'll take it.

[4>0rings]

yeah hopefully we get a winner and not a guy who chokes on the big stage
TD is back ya'll!!!!

[Killakobe81]

unless Williams renounces his blackness in the next couple of months, Jimmers goin #3.

Williams looks mixed he maybe 1/4 white does that count? they used to Love Dwill before he ran out Sloan ...

[jag]

give me Kyrie Irving and the kid from San Diego State at #4 and I'll take it.

The city of Cleveland needed a sports miracle. I guess this will have to do.

[JamStone]

Detroit fan taking shots at Cleveland?

Wasn't a shot at all. It was reasonable foreseeability.

[Andrew Cunanan]

Lame double-tech...refs trying to neuter the emotion of the game

[JoeTait75]

Wasn't a shot at all. It was reasonable foreseeability.

Well, seven years should be long enough to build a good team at any rate. Honestly, if you can't put something together around the top overall pick in that amount of time, provided he can play, you deserve to lose him.

[JoeTait75]

Maybe I'll be disappointed about the next guy who leaves instead of wanting to drive the quitting bitch to the airport myself.

[Girasuck]

I'm gonna cut my wrists if Derrick Williams ends up with the racist inbreds in Utah

Do me a favor...instead of this just put a barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger, cause Williams is Utah bound.

[Kyle Orton]

:lol yeah then he'll leave Utah like every other black athlete does once he gets the chance to

[baseline bum]

If I'm Cleveland fan I hope for a lockout so they get another high pick. Then draft a really nice forward like Davis, Barnes, Sullinger, McAdoo, Jones, or Miller next year. I think with that #4 pick they should be aggressive and go after a Euro. There just isn't a good safe pick after 2 in this draft.... especially since they'll have no need for Brandon Knight with Irving in the mix. Just don't ever hire another Paxson or Ferry.

[JoeTait75]

If I'm Cleveland fan I hope for a lockout so they get another high pick.

They're going to get another high pick regardless. Cleveland will blow next year even with Irving and whoever they get at #4. (Kawhi Leonard?) Even LeBron's first Cavaliers team only won 35 games.

[Kyle Orton]

I'm holding out hope D-Will slips to 4 and he and Irving will emerge as a bomb ass pick and roll combo. Anywhere but Utah :cry

[Girasuck]

I'm holding out hope D-Will slips to 4 and he and Irving will emerge as a bomb ass pick and roll combo. Anywhere but Utah :cry

HAHAHA...I can't wait until draft night. DWill2 is on his way.

[Kyle Orton]

I can't wait till DWILL2's career in Utah ends prematurely just like DWILL1's did

[DPG21920]

Random prediction: Clippers get the number 1 pick.

Told y'all.

[Killakobe81]

Told y'all.

I said the same ...but forgot they traded it ... LOL

[frodo]

clippers just traded their #1 pick for mo williams (per kaizoku), even the #1 pick wouldn't mean too much this year. prospects just be mediocre as shit tbh which kinda rekindles dat 02' draft

[DMC]

There are plenty 1st overall picks who weren't as good as Mo Williams. Sad.

[Jace]

Timberwolves have the worst luck, luckily no one here in Minneapolis cares

[Jace]

What's he got?

Neurofibromatosis, which Google tells me is usually not fatal.

[JoeTait75]

Tribe is in first place and the Cavaliers have the top overall pick. And you guys think it sucks to be a Cleveland fan...

[Jace]

That's obvious. LeBron-level talents come around maybe every ten years. Hopefully their front-office doesn't give Irving 1,000,000 reasons to leave like they did LeBron.

Not really once in a decade, you also have Carmelo, Wade, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard etc..

[baseline bum]

There are plenty 1st overall picks who weren't as good as Mo Williams. Sad.

In the modern era, Olowokani, Ellison, and possibly Brown are it.

[baseline bum]

Not really once in a decade, you also have Carmelo, Wade, Durant, Rose, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard etc..

None of them are LeBron.

[DJ Mbenga]

somehow the cavs get the first and 3rd overall picks in the horrible draft.

i was shockingly close. not the third but 4th.