Dirk Nowitzki vs Kevin Durant [Archive]

Spursfan092120

05-17-2011, 04:51 PM

who is better? to me, it's dirk. he's far more efficient. he doesn't need a 2nd all-star besides him..

I'd say Dirk..but to say he doesn't need a 2nd all-star besides him is ludicrous...he hasn't won a ring. Dallas will not win a title until Dirk is the second best player on that team..period.

Pero

05-17-2011, 05:13 PM

Dirk. For now anyway.

Shank

05-17-2011, 05:17 PM

We've become a society of sports fans that base the majority of their thinking off Sportscenter highlights and shoe commercials.

Nathan89

05-17-2011, 05:17 PM

Dirk can efficiently dominate against any team in the league.

Budkin

05-17-2011, 05:20 PM

Dirk. Durant is still way too raw.

Banzai

05-17-2011, 05:21 PM

I'll let you know when the series is over.

baseline bum

05-17-2011, 05:24 PM

Tough call. I guess I'll wait to the end of the series to make it.

stretch

05-17-2011, 05:31 PM

right now, its definitely Dirk. not even a question.

50% of Durants points come off of his stupid swing-through fake shot where a guy has his arm extended.

rayjayjohnson

05-17-2011, 05:35 PM

dirk.

durant will be dirk-level good, but not for a couple of years yet

Texas Chili Dog

05-17-2011, 05:56 PM

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Can't even win the international vote. That's sad. Wonder what the deal is with Alaska. I guess you can pretty much count Alaska as "foreign" though. :lol

Kai

05-17-2011, 06:11 PM

I'd say Dirk but this series has the potential to change everybody's mind.

Findog

05-17-2011, 06:17 PM

endrity

05-17-2011, 06:34 PM

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Amaso

05-17-2011, 06:37 PM

Dirk

frodo

05-17-2011, 06:42 PM

the 2 greatest long shootin-guards imho

Cane

05-17-2011, 06:48 PM

Dirk's better but obviously you'd rather have Durant since he's 22.

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Oceans ftl

Texas Chili Dog

05-17-2011, 06:50 PM

Dirk's better but obviously you'd rather have Durant since he's 22.

Maybe for the future, but not for this series.

Proxy

05-17-2011, 07:08 PM

Right now it's Dirk obviously.

I would guess that at the end of the day, they'll both end up in similar spots among the top 100 players ever. Hard to say since Dirk has hit his prime, and Durantula hasn't.

NewJerSpur

05-17-2011, 07:46 PM

:corn:

DAF86

05-17-2011, 08:14 PM

The correct answer is Dirk, but like Kaizoku says, we might be singing a different tune in two weeks. In my mind, Dirk is just more efficient, more consistent, and can help his team with his rebounding and passing. If Durant isn't scoring efficiently, he's not helping the Thunder.

Dirk is averaging 8.4 rbds per game in this playoffs, that's below average for a star bigman.

Durant averages 7.7, that's above average for a star wing.

So IMO the rebound argument isn't fair.

And the "passing" and "efficient scoring" argument is bullshit too:

Dirk: 1,4 pts per shot - 2,8 assts per game

Durant: 1,4 pts per shot - 2,7 assts per game.

Neither guy is particularly good at facilating others and they are both equally efficient.

It's a tough choice but if I had to choose I'd rather have Durant at SF than Dirk at PF.

LkrFan

05-17-2011, 08:39 PM

Durant. :downspin:

redzero

05-17-2011, 10:52 PM

Hmm... this is a hard one.

Bill_Brasky

05-17-2011, 10:57 PM

Tbh two amazing performances, Durant's team didn't show up with him tonight.

Dirk was better though.

Pero

05-18-2011, 06:36 AM

Dirk is averaging 8.4 rbds per game in this playoffs, that's below average for a star bigman.

Durant averages 7.7, that's above average for a star wing.

So IMO the rebound argument isn't fair.

And the "passing" and "efficient scoring" argument is bullshit too:

Where did you get those stats? In these playoffs:
Dirk: 38.4min, .517 FG, .600 3PT,.922 FT, 8.2 RBD, 2.9 AST, 28.5 PTS
Durant: 41.6min, .465 FG, .381 3PT, .839 FT, 7.7 RBD, 2.5 AST, 29.8 PTS

Higher FG, 3PT, FT = more efficient and Dirk does more in less minutes.

Muser

05-18-2011, 07:24 AM

:lmao at efficient scoring being bullshit. You must love Allen Iverson.

Muser

05-18-2011, 07:24 AM

Dirk is shooting .600 from 3 :wow:wow:wow:wow:wow

ATXSPUR

05-18-2011, 07:30 AM

By the end of both of their careers, Durant will be considered greater.

100%duncan

05-18-2011, 08:02 AM

Dirk, he actually cleans his face..

:rollin

cheguevara

05-18-2011, 08:59 AM

pretty even. whoever outshines (or out FTs) the other in this series will get to the Finals.

DAF86

05-18-2011, 05:50 PM

Where did you get those stats? In these playoffs:
Dirk: 38.4min, .517 FG, .600 3PT,.922 FT, 8.2 RBD, 2.9 AST, 28.5 PTS
Durant: 41.6min, .465 FG, .381 3PT, .839 FT, 7.7 RBD, 2.5 AST, 29.8 PTS

Higher FG, 3PT, FT = more efficient and Dirk does more in less minutes.

Those stats are prior to Dirk's monster game 1.

:lmao at efficient scoring being bullshit. You must love Allen Iverson.

Dude, learn to red.

Pero

05-18-2011, 06:19 PM

Those stats are prior to Dirk's monster game 1.

Hmm, I'm doubtful it would be much of a difference even if you count that one out because Durant didn't exactly have a bad game either.

DAF86

05-18-2011, 06:23 PM

It was like that. Take away the stats from the last game and do the math.

Sportstudi

08-09-2011, 12:44 PM

I'd say Dirk..but to say he doesn't need a 2nd all-star besides him is ludicrous...he hasn't won a ring. Dallas will not win a title until Dirk is the second best player on that team..period.

Fail.

cheguevara

08-09-2011, 12:47 PM

pretty even. whoever outshines (or out FTs) the other in this series will get to the Finals.

Winn

Neo.

08-09-2011, 12:49 PM

:lmao DAF86 being a dumbshit

Monostradamus

08-09-2011, 01:01 PM

I'd say Dirk..but to say he doesn't need a 2nd all-star besides him is ludicrous...he hasn't won a ring. Dallas will not win a title until Dirk is the second best player on that team..period.

:lmao

greensborohill

08-09-2011, 01:38 PM

By the end of both of their careers, Durant will be considered greater.

F*** dat sh!t. I don't see Durant being the #1 guy on a championship team. Didn't see any fire in him in the crunch. No way he's better than Dirk all-time at the end of their careers.

greensborohill

08-09-2011, 01:41 PM

I'd say Dirk..but to say he doesn't need a 2nd all-star besides him is ludicrous...he hasn't won a ring. Dallas will not win a title until Dirk is the second best player on that team..period.

Hey, homie, tell me how Dirk's ASS TASTE!!!

greensborohill

08-09-2011, 01:42 PM

Winn

Didnt the Thunder win the FT battle handedly?

cheguevara

08-09-2011, 02:05 PM

Didnt the Thunder win the FT battle handedly?

Dirk 61FT
Durant 49FT

Never doubt Che

and I do agree when it is all said and done Durant will be considered better

greensborohill

08-09-2011, 02:29 PM

Dirk 61FT
Durant 49FT

Never doubt Che

and I do agree when it is all said and done Durant will be considered better

The Thunder won the FT battle.

Also, show me how Durant's gonna grow a set of ballz enough to win ta title. When it's all said and done Dirk will have more rings, period. And I always douby the Che cuz the Che ain't sh!t.

Neo.

08-09-2011, 02:34 PM

Never doubt Che

LMAO blazers in 5
LMAO lakers in 5
LMAO thunder in 5
LMAO heat in 5

LMAO spurs in 5

LMAO never doubt che

endrity

08-09-2011, 03:59 PM

I actually came away quite dissapointed from Durant. Given that he has taken Dirk's spot in the 1 All NBA team the last two seasons, I think the series proved that he is still wayyyyy behind Dirk's level.

Durant's scoring in the regular season really hides his deficiencies a lot, but the guy clearly needs to add a lot more to the game. Once good defenders got a hold of him, Artest last year and Marion this year, he really had no option B to his game. Much different from where Dirk is right now.

greensborohill

08-10-2011, 06:56 AM

Lock the thread. Seriously, who is Kevin Durant and why is he in the same sentence with an NBA MVP, Finals MVP, and motherfucking CHAMPION.

LOCK IT

cheguevara

08-10-2011, 09:43 AM

"what happened to Durant"

he got Westbrooked

greensborohill

08-10-2011, 09:55 AM

"what happened to Durant"

he got Westbrooked

Just shows a lack of killer instinct and leadership on Durant's part. Maybe we should be asking "Who you got Dirk or Westrook?" in which case the answer is still Dirk. And histroically there's nothing I've seen that says that either Durant or Westbrook will reach Dirk's heights.