Parker press conference: Spurs done as a contender.

[Fabbs]

“Who knows what the motivation is to say something like that,” Buford said.

7-14 playoff record since 2008 maybe?

[spursfan09]

7-14 playoff record since 2008 maybe?

:lol right?

[Spurs7794]

7-14 playoff record since 2008 maybe?

I think the more telling stat is since they won game 3 of 2008 first round, the spurs are 2-16 on the road. In 2007, they were 7-2.

[Chomag]

7-14 playoff record since 2008 maybe?
ouch...

[Budkin]

TP is probably just pissed off that Bonner and Jefferson didn't do shit to help the team, which is why they can't contend.

[tmtcsc]

The whole team sucked in the playoffs. Tim was awful as was Tony. Rj sucked the whole last 3/4 of the season so that was no surprise. Manu was erratic...they buckled under pressure and against physical competition. It wad totally embarrassing. For those of you bashing Pop, just try and realize that the man made lemonade out of a bunch of lemons. No one should be surprised at the playoff failure. Most people saw it coming. I got caught up in thinking we had a chance because I didn't want to face reality. No D= No win.

[Bruno]

I'm undecided on whether Parker should have said that or not.

Why he should have STFU:
- It could hurt Spurs financially. Saying that Spurs aren't a contender anymore won't help Spurs to sell tickets.
- It puts Spurs in a need situation on the trade market which is a never a good thing.
- It could hurt Spurs chemistry.

Why he was right to say that:
- Maybe Pop interview with the E-N was just PR bullshit but what he said was damn worrisome. If Spurs FO truly think that they can stand pat, they deserve to be called out publicly.
- A reason why Parker didn't try to sign the biggest extension possible was that he wanted to keep Spurs competitive. He has the "right" to put some pressure on the FO to keep Spurs competitive.
- It's always nice to hear a player saying something different than the usual talk.

Regarding what Parker said, I think some details should be said.

The "Spurs done as a contender" coming from Parker isn't a surprise. For years, he has said that while 10 or 12 teams claim to be contender, there were only 4 or 5 true contender. Last summer, Parker said it was Spurs last year of contention. Add to that that Parker is damn straight when he speaks to French media and it's logical to see Parker saying that.

The "if someone is going to be traded, I know it will be me" shouldn't be understood as Parker asking for a trade. With time, more complete transcript of this press conference have been release. Parker said that but it was in response of an oriented question "Spurs are at the end of an era and needs to rebuild their team. You are the player with the highest trade value...". Parker is also someone who understand really well the GM side of the NBA.

[Brazil]

I don't think TP had an agenda saying that tbh it was just a direct answer to a direct question.

[Pauleta14]

Parker is our Sydney Govou... traded every season for ten years

:lol:nope

The difference is that Govou WANTED to leave every year, except he didn't find a big club wanting to pay for him...

TP wants to stay.

[TwelveGs210]

The Spurs seem stuck between being good enough to make the playoffs but not bad enough to get a good draft position. I know we did get some good value at where we picked Hill and Blair, but we need to get back in the top 3 to turn things around.

I've heard this years draft is one of the weaker in recent years, so I'd say trade Parker for something decent besides a draft pick, and focus this year on development of our young guys. Only thing I'm concerned about is, even if we did play Anderson, Hill, Splitter, maybe a player that we recieved from the Tony trade starters minutes, we would probably still be competitive enough to miss the lottery.

[hater]

ppl are overthinking this too much. TP said what he said because that's what he thinks.

IF he had layed it all out on the floor and stepped up I would have no problems with it. But given that in round 1 his nuts shriveled more than a Frenchman's in WWII, he has no right to say shit except take blame.

[Juanobili]

Dude has to be traded.

Why would the Spurs want to have a player who thinks they can't win it all? Parker's effort won't be 100%

[024]

wow spurs management seems to be in complete denial. probably the same denial that caused them to give bonner and jefferson contract extensions. this is bad news.

[objective]

Cleveland does have a 14.5 mil trade exception from Lebron James that expires on july 11 per sham sports...Just throwing that out there

Doesn't help at all with a supposed Arenas-to-Cleveland deal.

per Coon's faq:


the team can only trade away one player, and can receive no more than $100,000 more than the salary they trade away

Even if Cleveland was going to do a side trade of one player for the exception as part of a larger deal, it couldn't work with Arenas. Arenas makes over 17 million. Can't be traded for a 14.5 exception.

[objective]

I'm undecided on whether Parker should have said that or not.

Why he should have STFU:
- It could hurt Spurs financially. Saying that Spurs aren't a contender anymore won't help Spurs to sell tickets.
- It puts Spurs in a need situation on the trade market which is a never a good thing.
- It could hurt Spurs chemistry.

Why he was right to say that:
- Maybe Pop interview with the E-N was just PR bullshit but what he said was damn worrisome. If Spurs FO truly think that they can stand pat, they deserve to be called out publicly.
- A reason why Parker didn't try to sign the biggest extension possible was that he wanted to keep Spurs competitive. He has the "right" to put some pressure on the FO to keep Spurs competitive.
- It's always nice to hear a player saying something different than the usual talk.

Regarding what Parker said, I think some details should be said.

The "Spurs done as a contender" coming from Parker isn't a surprise. For years, he has said that while 10 or 12 teams claim to be contender, there were only 4 or 5 true contender. Last summer, Parker said it was Spurs last year of contention. Add to that that Parker is damn straight when he speaks to French media and it's logical to see Parker saying that.

The "if someone is going to be traded, I know it will be me" shouldn't be understood as Parker asking for a trade. With time, more complete transcript of this press conference have been release. Parker said that but it was in response of an oriented question "Spurs are at the end of an era and needs to rebuild their team. You are the player with the highest trade value...". Parker is also someone who understand really well the GM side of the NBA.

Parker was just being honest.

As far as hurting the Spurs selling tickets . . . they couldn't sell tickets before. Some of it is the economy, some of it is contentment over having won so many titles, but I would think most of it is the AT&T Center. The 'new arena' attraction has worn off, and the area it's in is still total garbage. It's an industrial wasteland on one side and a ghetto on the other. Nothing like the old days when there was all of the downtown touristy things to do before and after games. You go there and you leave, and pay a lot of money for it. They're not selling out anything even if they were contenders.

[Bruno]

Parker was just being honest.


I agree that there isn't too much to read in why he said that. I'm just wondering if it good or bad that he said that.

[objective]

It can only be good to my mind.

Letting Pop and the FO know that they're not contenders in a bluntly honest way is a good thing, especially coming from Parker. I wish Duncan and Ginobili would do the same.

Pop talking about "Maybe it's Matt Bonner (as the starter for 2011-12)" was a huge red flag that Pop was still in full "senile-Pop-mode".

Only by recognizing that they weren't contenders playing guys like Jefferson and Bonner and rejecting the foolish "if only we weren't out of rhythm" mindset can the Spurs be at their best.

If Parker talking makes helps Pop and bitter RC open their eyes, then Parker has done a great thing.

Doesn't excuse his poor play in the playoffs, but at least it would mean he kind of gets it.

[G-Dawgg]

Parker needs to be traded away in a package with whoever to bring in a cornerstone big that this franchise can build around again. Period.

[silverblk mystix]

Dude has to be traded.

Why would the Spurs want to have a player who thinks they can't win it all? Parker's effort won't be 100%

Why would anyone on the team BELIEVE that they have a shot at a title in ANY year--when their own head coach repeatedly calls ANOTHER team the best in the league.

When that coach makes comments throughout the season that team A or team B is the best and that the spurs ....are "not in the same level"....

Why would a coach with a defeatist attitude like this be retained?

[timtonymanu]

While I do agree that Parker is partially to blame for the 1st round exit, I don't disagree with his quote. I would have been very angry if players on the team had just said: There's always next year. It sure seems like Pop believes that. At least someone isn't being delusional.

[dbreiden83080]

Parker saying the Spurs are not contenders anymore has me very confused.

Yes that is true but this is not something any starting PG of a team that had the best record in the West should ever say.. He got a new deal from this team and he comes off like he will just be playing for the $$ next few years in SA. That or he is laying the groundwork to be traded.. Either way Tony should not have said this..

[Killakobe81]

Ye if Parker have said something among the lines of "we'll be fine", "we just need one or two pieces" Spur fan will be full of joy and in expectation for another great season to begin.

What he said is the true and there's nothing wrong with that. You don't trade him because of that, you trade him if a good deal can be made because he's the only one in the team with a market value.

Everything else is rubbish.

Wise words, from a smart man ...

[G-Dawgg]

Just cuz the Spurs are done doesn't mean he should be talking shit. Nice PR there Parker. I say trade his ass....

....Start the re-building process...

[dbreiden83080]

What he said is the true and there's nothing wrong with that.

What he said is true but there is plenty wrong with it.. If i am the GM and my starting PG who just got a big money extension from me says this, that tells me he has quit on this team.. Tony has 3 rings and the Spurs just had the best record in the west but he says "We are not contenders anymore" Very very odd comment..

Sounds like he is here for the money and just playing out his deal.. Or that he wants out..

[Killakobe81]

Parker is a fine player but without tim, he is like plenty of pretty good PG's that retire as ringless "flash in the pan stars" ...

[baseline bum]

Parker needs to be traded away in a package with whoever to bring in a cornerstone big that this franchise can build around again. Period.

What cornerstone big are you getting for Tony Parker?

[Spurs da champs]

George 0,2 assist per game Hill :lmao

lmao you dumb as hell George guarded the points of the other team while Manu handled the ball, that shit was working for us. lol parker can't even handle Conley or Dragic. Then he blames his own teammates for him being terrible.

[jermaine]

I hate to say it but Jalen Rose was right on point hen he said "they take the ball outta parkers hands more now than so. Hill has taking the spotlight from him. Just get what you can for the S.O.B now. He did help get us some rings so thank him for his time. But slap that nigga on his way out the door for saying that dumbass shit. I don't like him anymore for saying that. How can I talk shit to a Mavs fan here in Dallas while their still in the playoffs an our starting pg are saying we are done next season already after having the 2nd best record in the league. You just can't.

[timtonymanu]

lmao you dumb as hell George guarded the points of the other team while Manu handled the ball, that shit was working for us. lol parker can't even handle Conley or Dragic. Then he blames his own teammates for him being terrible.

Yeah cause Hill really defended Nash well in the Phoenix series.

[timtonymanu]

:lol some posters still thinking that mental midget Hill can replace Parker

[Spurs da champs]

Yeah cause Hill really defended Nash well in the Phoenix series.

Nash>Dragic

Apparently Dragic>Tony?

Nuff said Tony's a scrub!

[Sisk]

:lol some posters still thinking that mental midget Hill can replace Parker

Seriously. It blows my mind that people think Hill could take over Parker's job.

[edgar]

So is Parker going to be traded or are there any new news Phila?

[JP le Requin]

TP did right to say what he feels and think for real about the spurs and the future...maybe he will be listened by POP or Bufford...then we will se smart mooves like bye bye RJ & bonner..and blair? even if i like his hustles plays..he is really too smal to fight with bynum, odom, gasol, ibaka, chandler, bosh, noah etc...we need a real 7 footer or an blair like barkley style with 20 pts and 15 rebounds....

[Fabbs]

7-14 playoff record since 2008.

I think the more telling stat is since they won game 3 of 2008 first round, the spurs are 2-16 on the road. In 2007, they were 7-2.
Wow!

Don't try telling that at a PollyAnna Popper party.

[Russo21]

Screw him then.

Parker and RJ to New Orleans for Chris Paul and Ariza.

Chris Paul shits on Tony and makes everyone around him better and while he is not a huge name Ariza would be a much better fit here then RJ.

[Thomas82]

Is it true that the Spurs passed up a midseason trade that would have given them Derrick Favors and Devin Harris for Tony Parker and a filler?

[Russo21]

I'm not sure? I hope not. I would have done that in a heartbeat! :(

[lefty]

Screw him then.

Parker and RJ to New Orleans for Chris Paul and Ariza.

Chris Paul shits on Tony and makes everyone around him better and while he is not a huge name Ariza would be a much better fit here then RJ.
Yes please :D

[Thomas82]

I'm not sure? I hope not. I would have done that in a heartbeat! :(

So would i....no questions asked.

[DJ Mbenga]

parker for billups. thats about it. nuggets wont trade them nene since they already have 2 pt guards. clips wont take him cause they already have mo williams. only team with a horrific pg situation is the lakers and luke walton would only serve as an ass to richard jefferson

[Budkin]

Well I guess the Spurs are don't being contenders because the world is ending tomorrow.

Wait, it's already tomorrow in much of the world... are we waiting until Pacific time hits?

[ego]

Spurs done as a contender,because TD is done and Parker knows that. TP can be traded but the problem for the Spurs will be the same, TD can't play against young bigs and I'm not sure that Ginobili can play at 100 % . The only possibility is to give a lot of time to Splitter but Spurs have other problem with RJ and the bench. I love TD but life is life and TP and Pop, know the Spurs team was built around TD.

[FkLA]

:lol some posters still thinking that mental midget Hill can replace Parker

Pretty sure the Spurs wouldnt be trading Parker for Hill. Also :lol at Parker homers forgetting that Parker had more than his share of mental midget moments in his early yrs, alot of them just happened to be covered by a prime Duncan. Or some nigga named Speedy :lol

Hill+star bigman/solid wing & solid big > Parker

[Russo21]

Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat for Parker and Bonner

Sure Nash is old but who gives a crap. We have 1 more year to win a ring.

Nash makes everyone around him heaps better then tony does and is lights out from anywhere on the court. Gortat is 6'11 240lbs and averaged 10pts 8rebounds 1 block. Heaps better then any big we have not named duncan. In Gortat's last 5 games of the season he averaged 18 and 10!

If we can't get rid of dick jefferson maybe even Stevie Nash could get RJ out of his 2 year funk, if anyone can it's Steve Nash!

Gortat
Duncan
RJ (insert anyone we can trade RJ for)
Manu
Nash

Pretty solid lineup especially if we can get RJ out of town

[timtonymanu]

Pretty sure the Spurs wouldnt be trading Parker for Hill. Also :lol at Parker homers forgetting that Parker had more than his share of mental midget moments in his early yrs, alot of them just happened to be covered by a prime Duncan. Or some nigga named Speedy :lol

Hill+star bigman/solid wing & solid big > Parker

I thought Parker was alot to blame for what went wrong in the Memphis series. I thought Parker should have sat out of the French National Team in the 09 offseason to rest. I've criticized Parker a lot, but never would I want Hill to replace him and that's what some Spur fans are acting like.

Of course, I would take Hill + star bigman etc over Parker, but some people are talking like "Oh we have Hill , so we can trade Parker."

[joshdaboss]

Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat for Parker and Bonner

Sure Nash is old but who gives a crap. We have 1 more year to win a ring.

Nash makes everyone around him heaps better then tony does and is lights out from anywhere on the court. Gortat is 6'11 240lbs and averaged 10pts 8rebounds 1 block. Heaps better then any big we have not named duncan. In Gortat's last 5 games of the season he averaged 18 and 10!

If we can't get rid of dick jefferson maybe even Stevie Nash could get RJ out of his 2 year funk, if anyone can it's Steve Nash!

Gortat
Duncan
RJ (insert anyone we can trade RJ for)
Manu
Nash

Pretty solid lineup especially if we can get RJ out of town

I've long thought about trading Parker for Nash, since Chris Paul isn't a realistic option. The only thing I worry about is that Nash doesn't fit this type of system. We can't run like we did in the regular season in the playoffs, and also he is a defensive liability, just like Parker. I'd prefer to trade him for a big. I wonder how fond the Jazz are of Al Jefferson.

[4>0rings]

If Coach Pop leaves Hill to play point, God help us all.

[FkLA]

I thought Parker was alot to blame for what went wrong in the Memphis series. I thought Parker should have sat out of the French National Team in the 09 offseason to rest. I've criticized Parker a lot, but never would I want Hill to replace him and that's what some Spur fans are acting like.

Of course, I would take Hill + star bigman etc over Parker, but some people are talking like "Oh we have Hill , so we can trade Parker."

Im one of those people. Not because I think Hill is the player Parker is, but because I think Hill is good enough to be a solid starting PG. I dont buy this whole SpursTalk 'hes a SG period' stuff...he can hold it down at PG imho especially with the help of Manu who isnt your typical scoring SG (hes probably the best when it comes to game managing/distributing amongst SGs). Not to mention the fact that Parker isnt exactly John Stockton when it comes to getting teammates involved. He's a scoring PG himself just like Hill would be. Thats primarily why I think the upgrade in the frontcourt we would ideally receive in exchange for TP would easily outweight the drop-off we would suffer at the PG position.

Now if theres people that actually think Hill would equal Parker's production then I dont speak for them, theyre delusional and you should continue to scoff them.

[DrSteffo]

It's all relative. Hill is a bad PG. He has no passing skills whatsoever. How many times have a Spurs player been wide open and Hill failed to recognize this? He can defend SOME PGs but was destroyed by old man Nash in the last POs. He is a good scoring SG however. Manu would be the true PG but would this really improve the team?

[SenorSpur]

It's all relative. Hill is a bad PG. He has no passing skills whatsoever. How many times have a Spurs player been wide open and Hill failed to recognize this? He can defend SOME PGs but was destroyed by old man Nash in the last POs. He is a good scoring SG however. Manu would be the true PG but would this really improve the team?

:tu

[mountainballer]

Knicks have picked up Chauncey's option, so he's on the payroll for the full 14.2M, the five day deadline was from the end of New York's season, not the NBA season.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/28/sports/basketball/28knicks.html

They picked up his option so that they will have a large enough contract to trade at the deadline for Howard or Paul. If they can't get one of those two, they may look at Parker at that time and even be willing to eat RJ's deal, but they're not doing that trade before June 30th.

I see. but do they really have a chance to trade for Howard or Paul? they have no assets left, all they can offer is a minor salary dump scenario by as well taking a bad contract and even there they are limited. (they could somehow design a package big enough to take Howard and Hedo, but not Howard and Arenas). and the Hornets don't have any really bad contracts on the books. (unless we consider Okafor such a bad contract , which it isn't IMO. overpayed yes, but you can find quite a lot worse contracts out there)
either Magic and Hornets will at least ask for a top pick or a very talented young player. (like Bynum, if he wasn't that injury prone)

so, if they are realistic, they might consider the TP option as the right deal for this summer, getting a 3rd star in the first place might as well help to draw more attention from FAs who are in the MLE range. (like Dalembert for example)

[Russo21]

I've long thought about trading Parker for Nash, since Chris Paul isn't a realistic option. The only thing I worry about is that Nash doesn't fit this type of system. We can't run like we did in the regular season in the playoffs, and also he is a defensive liability, just like Parker. I'd prefer to trade him for a big. I wonder how fond the Jazz are of Al Jefferson.

I doubt we could pry Al Jefferson away from Utah. He is a massive dominant beast. They already have an adequate PG in devin harris so Tony wouldn't be needed in utah, who do you think we could trade big Al for?:depressed

RJ and Dice's expiring works. But i don't see them swapping Al Jefferson for RJ and cash from Dice's contract. If they were in on it then yes please! Do it!

Al Jefferson
Timmy
Free agent SF
Manu
Tony

Damn solid lineup!

[SenorSpur]

Parker has had to day a press conference (http://www.eurosport.fr/basketball/nba/2010-2011/chat.shtml?chatid=a9326b1094) in France. Here are the parts regarding Spurs:

About the loss against Memphis:
I took the time to think at it. It's a big disappointment. I talked last week about it with Pop and he was truly sad. So is Duncan. We are all very frustrated after such a great regular season. It was a difficult matchup for us. We got dominated in the paint. Dallas or OKC would have been easier for us. It depends on little details. We could very well be at Dallas spot today...

About next year:
At the start of this season, I've said that it was our last shot to win it all. Duncan and Ginobili are getting older. It will be hard to renew the team. We will still have a good team but we can't say we will be a contender. There are young teams that come.

Is he disappointed about to have signed an extension given that?
Ni, I'm not. I came from a difficult season with some injuries. I only had one year left on my contract. I couldn't take the risk to turn down the 4 years extension and not securing my future.

Will he be traded?
In San Antonio, if someone is going to be traded, I know it will be me. Pop told me they wanted to keep me. It's a business but I don't think they will have given me an extension if their plan was to trade me.

About his year in NBA:
I've had on of my best season in NBA. I've improved a lot in the leadership area. In term of being a true point guard and managing games, this is my best season.

About Spurs improving the team this summer:
I don't see how we will be able to do that. We can't trade our young players. At the draft, you got to be lucky. Pop has always done a good job so I hope there will have some good surprises for next season's start. But if you know a 7'3" bigman who is a free agent, you can just call me (laugh)....

The rest of the press conference was mainly about FNT and the team he owns in France.

I don't know whether this has been posted or not, but Spurs GM RC Buford was nade aware of Parker's comments, and had this to say:

“Who knows what the motivation is to say something like that,” Buford said. “I’m not going to get caught up in comments. All I can say is that we’re going to continue to build our team and try to be as good as we can be in the future.”

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/20/buford-spurs-not-caught-up-in-parker%E2%80%99s-pessimism/

[ducks]

you know parker might have said those things
wanting the spurs to make some moves and be contenders
spurs have some assest

gortat from the suns is a possible
he loves d
gets on the suns about their lack of d

[Mel_13]

I see. but do they really have a chance to trade for Howard or Paul? they have no assets left, all they can offer is a minor salary dump scenario by as well taking a bad contract and even there they are limited. (they could somehow design a package big enough to take Howard and Hedo, but not Howard and Arenas). and the Hornets don't have any really bad contracts on the books. (unless we consider Okafor such a bad contract , which it isn't IMO. overpayed yes, but you can find quite a lot worse contracts out there)
either Magic and Hornets will at least ask for a top pick or a very talented young player. (like Bynum, if he wasn't that injury prone)

so, if they are realistic, they might consider the TP option as the right deal for this summer, getting a 3rd star in the first place might as well help to draw more attention from FAs who are in the MLE range. (like Dalembert for example)

I would agree that their chances of getting Howard or Paul appear to be limited, but without a huge expiring contract the chances practically disappear.

The lockout and the new CBA will clearly affect decision making between now and June 30th. The new CBA will certainly change things, but how much is not known. Hard Cap? Salary rollbacks? Franchise tags? Will the MLE still exist? Will there be a version of the Allan Houston rule this time around?

I can't see them trading for Parker this summer when they don't know what the new landscape will be. If the new CBA is much more restrictive than the current one, then big expiring contracts will be more valuable than ever as teams on a budget seek to avoid whatever penalties/taxes the new system brings.

I think that they will roll the dice on a better deal materializing during what could be a very small window between the implementation of a new CBA and next season's trading deadline. A Parker-sized deal seems likely to be available then, there's really no reason to kill their chances of a bigger deal by settling now.

[Mel_13]

you know parker might have said those things
wanting the spurs to make some moves and be contenders
spurs have some assest

gortat from the suns is a possible
he loves d
gets on the suns about their lack of d

Parker is their best asset.

[ducks]

ofcourse if there is a lockout
and they play 50 games
duncan and manu might have enough in the tank to get it down

the younger teams take longer to get it together then the vet teams

[dbreiden83080]

ofcourse if there is a lockout
and they play 50 games
duncan and manu might have enough in the tank to get it down

the younger teams take longer to get it together then the vet teams

Another shortened season title

I can dig it..

[Interrohater]

I think Neal would be a better point guard than Hill if we could move him over. He has the three point shot and he seems to make good decisions, I'd give him a shot at PG and keep Hill at the SG position.

[Spurs da champs]

I think Neal would be a better point guard than Hill if we could move him over. He has the three point shot and he seems to make good decisions, I'd give him a shot at PG and keep Hill at the SG position.

By good decisions you mean chucking everytime he has the ball?

[Interrohater]

By good decisions you mean chucking everytime he has the ball?
If he's making them the way he was, then yes. Manu chucks the ball as well, but you'll take it when he makes them, no?

[Interrohater]

By good decisions you mean chucking everytime he has the ball?

Also, what's the difference between shooting when he has the ball (and by the way, he's a shooter) and TP always trying to go one on one? If the ball goes in the hole, it's the same outcome.

[G-Dawgg]

What cornerstone big are you getting for Tony Parker?

Make a trade... Get someone like Al Horford, or Josh Smith

[Mel_13]

Make a trade... Get someone like Al Horford, or Josh Smith

:lol

[DMC]

Also, what's the difference between shooting when he has the ball (and by the way, he's a shooter) and TP always trying to go one on one? If the ball goes in the hole, it's the same outcome.

No it's not. Drawing in the defense allows outside shooters to set up. You bail out the defense with outside shots unless they are open and a result of good ball movement.

When Parker penetrates into the paint, the interior defense has to go to work. That gets them in foul trouble and leaves their check uncovered. It tires the defense and that translates into their offense.

[spurs10]

I thought it was interesting that RC used the word "motivation" in asking about Tony's comments. He seems to think that Tony was indeed sending a message to them. I wonder why Tony feels he's the only option in a trade. Surely there are other options. Much has been said about moving Jefferson and Bonner. We probably want to keep the younger guys like he said, but if they're serious about making the most of Tim's last stand then few should be untouchable. Outside of Manu, TP, Neal, and Tiago, who is a must have?

[ElNono]

I don't want to read too much into this, but...

do you guys think Tony might have said that in order to call out the FO, make fun of how old Tim and Manu are, force a trade and change cities after divorcing Eva?




















:lol

[Mel_13]

I don't want to read too much into this, but...

do you guys think Tony might have said that in order to call out the FO, make fun of how old Tim and Manu are, force a trade and change cities after divorcing Eva?




















:lol

We, here on SpursTalk, never read too much into statements made by, attributed to, or rumored to have been uttered by any Spurs player, his wife, his girlfriend, any member of his entourage, or anyone that once ate in the same restaurant he has been known to occasionally dine in...

[elemento]

Parker won't say it in public, but I have the feeling he wants a new fresh air in another city. He has been here for a long time and he won it all 3 times. He does not feel confident about the team now and IMO he is not "hungry" as he used to be.

And after Eva's episode, I think a change would be good for him and he probably feels the same way. Hill is not the answer as our future PG, but as long as Manu is here, he will be fine.

[Ditty]

only if :depressed

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3v38osl

[spurs10]

I don't want to read too much into this, but...

do you guys think Tony might have said that in order to call out the FO, make fun of how old Tim and Manu are, force a trade and change cities after divorcing Eva?

That's why RC was questioning his motivation. Whether he wants to move or not who knows, but he's definitely saying something's gotta give.


















:lol
That's why RC was questioning his motivation. Whether or not he wants to be moved who knows, but he's definitely saying something's gotta give.

[Bruno]

It's funny how a thread with Parker saying that he likely won't be traded turn out on dozens of virtual Parker trades. :lol

A ST's offseason without a bunch of posters wanting to trade Parker wouldn't be a ST's offseason...

[Interrohater]

No it's not. Drawing in the defense allows outside shooters to set up. You bail out the defense with outside shots unless they are open and a result of good ball movement.

When Parker penetrates into the paint, the interior defense has to go to work. That gets them in foul trouble and leaves their check uncovered. It tires the defense and that translates into their offense.
I know what you're saying, but that's not the only way to go about our offense, which was my point. There are plenty of PG's in the league that don't attempt to penetrate and kick out on every possession. When we were very Tim Duncan-centric, our offense ran through the post first, then it was kicked out, not by a slashing point guard.

[Mel_13]

It's funny how a thread with Parker saying that he likely won't be traded turn out on dozens of virtual Parker trades. :lol

A ST's offseason without a bunch of posters wanting to trade Parker wouldn't be a ST's offseason...

True, but the "trade Manu" bunch has been pretty quiet this time around. Seems like they've accepted that Manu will retire a Spur.

[Spurs da champs]

True, but the "trade Manu" bunch has been pretty quiet this time around. Seems like they've accepted that Manu will retire a Spur.

Manu has never been a dick head who has blamed his own teamates.

[Mel_13]

Manu has never been a dick head who has blamed his own teamates.

That didn't stop a whole legion of posters who have wanted to see Manu traded as far back as 2004. Tony's higher profile is probably providing some cover for Manu here on ST.

[Spurtacus]

I hate to trade long time Spurs vets and one of my favorite Spurs ever...but if he's wanting out of SA then perhaps it is time to move him. I would not trade Parker unless I could get a team to take RJ/Bonner with him OR give us lottery picks.

[anakha]

Parker needs to be traded away in a package with whoever to bring in a cornerstone big that this franchise can build around again. Period.


Make a trade... Get someone like Al Horford, or Josh Smith


Jesus fucking Christ. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

[NewJerSpur]

So the talk this offseason will be:

"Parker to LA for Bynum?"

:stirpot:

[G-Dawgg]

Jesus fucking Christ. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

Something wrong with that?...Lemme guess, you're satisfied with getting bounced in the first round because we're way too soft and small up front....

..sorry to say it dude, but your favorite player isn't -and shouldnt be- untouchable.

Horford averaged 15pts and 9reb and J Smith averaged 16pts and 8.5reb

....trade Parker for pansit and lumpia

[Spurs Brazil]

Buck Harvey: Parker better as a silent partner
Posted on May 21, 2011

Just outside security, on the way to baggage claim in San Antonio’s newest airport terminal, is a large video screen.

“Tony Parker, client,” are the words on it.

Parker is pictured wearing a suit, as well as an expression that suggests he, while wearing the suit, could take Jason Kidd off the dribble. Parker has lent his name to a San Antonio-based business group that handles insurance, mortgages and “wealth management.”

So what if this company suffered a bad quarter? Would Parker be as blunt as he was last week about the Spurs?

Or would he remember he’s being paid by the group?

If anything, what Parker said at a Paris press conference last week is the consensus. “Our team can still perform at the highest level,” he said of the Spurs, “but next year I don’t think we can play for the title.”

Keep reading: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/21/buck-harvey-parker-better-as-a-silent-partner/

[Mel_13]

Something wrong with that?...Lemme guess, you're satisfied with getting bounced in the first round because we're way too soft and small up front....

..sorry to say it dude, but your favorite player isn't -and shouldnt be- untouchable.

Horford averaged 15pts and 9reb and J Smith averaged 16pts and 8.5reb

....trade Parker for pansit and lumpia

Bad guess. The face palm wasn't to suggest that Parker is untouchable, but rather to laugh at the notion that Atlanta would trade Horford or Smith for Parker.

In their backcourt, Atlanta has Joe Johnson at 18M and Kurt Hinrich at 8M. They also have have Jeff Teague on his rookie deal and will, presumably, have interest in keeping Jamal Crawford who is an unrestricted free agent.

Why would Atlanta have any interest in trading Horford or Smith to add Parker, at 12.5M, to an already crowded and overpaid backcourt?

They wouldn't, thus the face palm.

[Mel_13]

Keep reading: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/21/buck-harvey-parker-better-as-a-silent-partner/

Cue those that believe Harvey is a mouthpiece for the FO:

"Spurs laying the groundwork with the fan base for a Parker trade."

[Cane]

Keep reading: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/05/21/buck-harvey-parker-better-as-a-silent-partner/

That about sums up Parker's quotes. While what he said was true there's just no need for it. Not even Jason Terry would say something that arguably dumb and potentially demoralizing about his team, but like Jason Terry he didn't take much blame for their shortcomings :downspin: You don't expect this from a Spur tbh even Mr. Longoria.

[anakha]

Something wrong with that?...Lemme guess, you're satisfied with getting bounced in the first round because we're way too soft and small up front....

..sorry to say it dude, but your favorite player isn't -and shouldnt be- untouchable.

Horford averaged 15pts and 9reb and J Smith averaged 16pts and 8.5reb

....trade Parker for pansit and lumpia

Considers Horford and Smith bigs to build the franchise around?

Automatically assumes I'm a blind Parker homer?

Ethnic stereotyping as his 'witty' comeback?

Congratulations! You've outed yourself as yet another GNSF whose asshole puts out smarter stuff than his mouth.

[G-Dawgg]

I'd trade Parker for some palabok...
:lmao

[Fabbs]

I like pork adobo myself when it's cooked right.

[G-Dawgg]

I like pork adobo myself when it's cooked right.
Mmmm adobo...

[anakha]

Pray tell, would you list down all the other current NBA bigs you'd build the Spurs franchise around? http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif

I could sure use the laughs.

[Agloco]

Parker needs to be traded away in a package with whoever to bring in a cornerstone big that this franchise can build around again. Period.


What cornerstone big are you getting for Tony Parker?


Make a trade... Get someone like Al Horford, or Josh Smith


:lol


Jesus fucking Christ. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

:lmao

[Brazil]

fortunately TP is there to entertain us during the off season

[Spurtacus]

Freedom fries, damnit.

[Kool Bob Love]

Anyone wanna tell me why Phila_Chamberlain (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5247530#post5247530) post got deleted?

I mean he is a insider who drop this bomb.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5247530#post5247530)

So far, the basics of the deal seem to be between Orlando Magic, Cleveland, San Antonio, Atlanta, and Minny. Bare with me, this is long, confusing and basic. No where near complete in terms of matching salaries.

Spurs trade: Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson
Hawks trade: Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Kirk Hinrich, 2012 first rounder
Magic trade: Dwight Howard, Gilbert Arenas, Brandon Bass
Cavs trade: Anderson Varejao, Antwan Jamison, #4 Pick
T-Wolves trade: Kevin Love, Martell Webster, #2 pick

That seems to be the main idea of things. Where everything and everyone ends up is in question, but the main idea of the trade seems to be Kevin Love to Orlando for Dwight. Due to Minny's cap space they would be able to take on Dwight despite not being able to match salaries. Orlando wants the 2nd and 4th round picks on top of Love.

Again, all very confusing and frustrating. This inlcudes several expiring salaries and long term deals. My Hawks source in this tells me they want to shed their long term contracts so it is easier to sell the team within a year or so.

[lefty]

:lol this thread tbh