RJ or Turk

[EmantheSpursFan]

Who would you rather have?
and why
:downspin:

[cantthinkofanything]

Who would you rather have?
and why
:downspin:

Great question.
I go with Turk. Do you think Orlando will go for that trade?

Oh, as to why...
Turk is a better basketball player.

[ace3g]

Turk because he has actually proven to hit clutch shots in the playoffs.

[baseline bum]

Turkoglu was way worse. He singlehandedly destroyed a monster Spurs team that would cornhole any Spurs team since (and including) 06. The Lakers ran a gimmick defense where they dared him to shoot every time down the floor, and it was the only way that team was losing. I honestly think the 04 Spurs win the title going away if you swap 04 Turkoglu for 11 Jefferson.

[Hoops Czar]

Neither because they both stink.

[cantthinkofanything]

Neither because they both stink.

Turk is 5x less stinky than RJ. He's 10x less stinky than Bonner.

[Leetonidas]

Turkoglu was way worse. He singlehandedly destroyed a monster Spurs team that would cornhole any Spurs team since (and including) 06. The Lakers ran a gimmick defense where they dared him to shoot every time down the floor, and it was the only way that team was losing. I honestly think the 04 Spurs win the title going away if you swap 04 Turkoglu for 11 Jefferson.

The 2004 Spurs were probably the best defensive team of all-time. I will forever hate that Turkish faggot for bricking wide open shot after shot after shot OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

[Hoops Czar]

Turk is 5x less stinky than RJ. He's 10x less stinky than Bonner.
Bonner wasn't an option. Your getting into semantics with who's better. The actual question is who would you rather have on your team. Neither, they both stink especially at their current price tag.

[cantthinkofanything]

Bonner wasn't an option. Your getting into semantics with who's better. The actual question is who would you rather have on your team. Neither, they both stink especially at their current price tag.

The question is a pick-em. You have to choose one or the other.
It's a lesser of two evils proposition.

[Maddog]

Who would you rather have?
and why
:downspin:


Turkoglu was way worse. He singlehandedly destroyed a monster Spurs team that would cornhole any Spurs team since (and including) 06. The Lakers ran a gimmick defense where they dared him to shoot every time down the floor, and it was the only way that team was losing. I honestly think the 04 Spurs win the title going away if you swap 04 Turkoglu for 11 Jefferson.

13-50 from the field against the Lakers
However he did much better in 09 in the finals
This year against the Hawks terrible in 6 games- like really terrible
FG .294 3pt .233 FT .571
Hedo's salary I think is better as the last year is Unguaranteed
Whereas I think RJs is although not sure all of it is. Thus from a long term standpoint Orlando probably wouldn't go for it

Might be interesting for chang e sakes but even if he played well not sure it would address the Spurs major problems
Bottom line nah I would pass although think about.

[Hoops Czar]

The question is a pick-em. You have to choose one or the other.
It's a lesser of two evils proposition.

If someone stuck a gun to my head and said choose, I would pick Turk. But he's not going to help the team any more than RJ did.

[DPG21920]

:vomit:

[DMC]

Would you rather have gonorrhea or syphilis?

[ChuckD]

Turkoglu was way worse. He singlehandedly destroyed a monster Spurs team that would cornhole any Spurs team since (and including) 06. The Lakers ran a gimmick defense where they dared him to shoot every time down the floor, and it was the only way that team was losing. I honestly think the 04 Spurs win the title going away if you swap 04 Turkoglu for 11 Jefferson.

This. Been there done that, got NO fucking championship T-shirt.

[ChuckD]

Turk is 5x less stinky than RJ. He's 10x less stinky than Bonner.

No. We've done this dance before, and he doesn't know the steps.

[ohmwrecker]

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/shared/characters/non-human/giant-douche-and-turd-sandwich.jpg

[Mrlunt925]

Turk, because he's not RJ.

[MmP]

04 team? seriously?
ron mercer, shane heal, anthony carter? Jason Heart...
come one people

[Cessation]

Turk, at least he can create shots for others, when he's not hitting shots.

[NewJerSpur]

At least Turk ain't scared to shoot.......that said, he went from the hero for the Magic 2 years ago to their goat. He was one of the main reasons they made the trade with Phoenix because of the chemistry from the Finals run, but ironically Jason Richardson (who the team might lose but hopefully not) became a more important piece and actually turned into their closer. By him getting tossed in Game 3 and suspended for Game 4, I think he cost Orlando the series, even though The Hawks were playing better overall.

[G-Dawgg]

RJ has Waaaay more tools. Its not his fault that the coaching staff (and his teamates for that matter) don't know how to utilize him amd get him involved more often. Earlier in the season they fed him alley-oops and ran full court with him but they went away from that in the 2nd half and that's part of the reason thet Spurs stopped putting up big scoring numbers as a team and weren't as good in the 2nd part of the season

[NewJerSpur]

RJ has Waaaay more tools. Its not his fault that the coaching staff (and his teamates for that matter) don't know how to utilize him amd get him involved more often. Earlier in the season they fed him alley-oops and ran full court with him but they went away from that in the 2nd half and that's part of the reason thet Spurs stopped putting up big scoring numbers as a team and weren't as good in the 2nd part of the season

I agree that less plays got ran for RJ as the season wwent on and his shooting started to dip, but with the ability he has to get to the rim he rarely bailed the Spurs out when plays were breaking down due to the Grizz chasing SA off the line and disrupting the drive-and-kick. The last game of the series Pop had to sit him down for the remainder of the 2nd half because he refused to attempt to score at times. Him at least trying to drive more often when the ball came around to him would've spread the floor imo.

[Nick Manning]

Turk.

If the choices were RJ or a bag of dildos it would still be self-explanatory.

[baseline bum]

04 team? seriously?
ron mercer, shane heal, anthony carter? Jason Heart...
come one people

Yeah, the 04 team that won 17 straight before LA stopped guarding Turkolgu, had statistically one of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history, had a prime Bruce Bowen shutting down the perimeter better than anyone since Pippen, a prime Duncan shutting down the interior, Manu Ginobili when he first emerged as a star player and closer, a vastly improved Tony Parker who was shredding everyone until the Lakers put 4 people in the lane and ceded open shot after open shot to Turkoglu, the greatest role player in league history in Horry.... not to mention the best post player in the game. Yeah, that shitty team.

[UnWantedTheory]

Eh, Turk has some size at 6' 10 & is a decent 3 point shooter I believe....with that said I am not sure. Just going for change & what I previously stated I might lean towards Turk.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

lol not much diff in the stats. so looking at the contracts (RJ)8.4mil a year vs (Hedo)10.2 mil a year. this is 1 of a few times that i would rather stick with RJ.

[edgar]

Rj

[Uriel]

RJ, because his contract is more palatable than Turkoglu's (which says more about how awful Hedo's contract is than it does RJ's) and because he can shoot 3's better (44% for Richard as opposed to 41% for Hedo this season).

[crc21209]

Turkoglu was way worse. He singlehandedly destroyed a monster Spurs team that would cornhole any Spurs team since (and including) 06. The Lakers ran a gimmick defense where they dared him to shoot every time down the floor, and it was the only way that team was losing. I honestly think the 04 Spurs win the title going away if you swap 04 Turkoglu for 11 Jefferson.

+1. Replace Turk with a D-league player and I think we win the damn 04' title....

[Spurs7794]

RJ got a pass from me repeatedly because I felt like the coaching staff didn't run him any plays. Then he played awesome in games 1 and 2 this year and I was like "SWEEEEET". Then he abruptly dissapeared and stopped doing anything...and he doesn't get a pass for that shit.

As for that alley oop play, they ran it alot but teams started sniffing it out. I went to three Spurs games and they ran that play and everytime, I predicted it about 10 seconds before it went down because that set they run is so predictable.

[it's me]

Gay thread TBH

[cantthinkofanything]

Would you rather have gonorrhea or syphilis?

one hour with your mom can get you both

[hater]

basketballwise Turkoglu is clearly much better. This season is a freak for him because of the worlds and all the jumping around from team to team. Hands down Turk destroys RJ.

but when you include contracts it's like comparing a piece of shit with beans on it and a piece of shit with corn on it

[cantthinkofanything]

basketballwise Turkoglu is clearly much better. This season is a freak for him because of the worlds and all the jumping around from team to team. Hands down Turk destroys RJ.

but when you include contracts it's like comparing a piece of shit with beans on it and a piece of shit with corn on it

Who puts corn on a piece of shit? Or beans for that matter?

[objective]

Turkoglu's last year isn't fully guaranteed, RJ's is a player option.

I'd trade RJ for Hedo straight up. Both are trash. Hedo could maybe serve some use as a smallball 4 instead of having to play Bonner.

Either way, Spurs have a terrible choking player who they'd be better off without.

And please, enough of the excuses for RJ about his touches.

Ron Harper changed his whole game and career from being a bigtime scorer with touches to being the ultimate roleplayer. Jefferson shut it down instead.

[rascal]

Turk isn't any good. The spurs had him and he was bad.
Go a different route for change.