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Winehole23
05-18-2011, 04:25 PM
The Real Social Security and Medicare Problem (and a Doable Fix)

By BRUCE BARTLETT (http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/author/bruce-bartlett/) http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs_v3/economix/todays-economist.png
Bruce Bartlett (http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/economy/bruce-bartlett-bio.html) has served as an economic adviser in the White House, the Treasury Department and Congress.


On Friday, the trustees of the Social Security (http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TR/2011/tr2011.pdf) and Medicare (http://www.cms.gov/ReportsTrustFunds/downloads/tr2011.pdf) systems issued their annual reports for 2011. Commentary on these reports always tends to dwell on the date when their trust funds become exhausted; in the case of Social Security it is 2036 and for Medicare it is 2024. But in truth, these figures are virtually devoid of meaning.


Benefits are not paid out of a trust fund filled with income-producing assets, like a private pension fund; benefits are paid out of tax revenues. The trust funds are merely accounting devices best thought of as budget authority. As the trust funds draw down their assets, general revenues — that is, tax revenues besides the payroll taxes earmarked for these programs — are injected into the trust funds to redeem bonds that had previously been placed there during years when revenue from the payroll tax exceeded costs.


Although there is often speculation that Social Security and Medicare benefits would have to be slashed to the level of payroll tax revenue on the day the trust funds are empty, this is simply nonsense. It would take Congress a matter of hours to change the law to allow explicit general revenue financing for these programs.


There is never going to be a day when Social Security checks are cut across the board because the Social Security trust fund became exhausted.


What really matters for the viability of both Social Security and Medicare is their aggregate costs relative to the economy’s ability to pay them. In this regard, it is best to look at spending as a share of the gross domestic product, especially in the long run.


Looking at Social Security, we see spending rising from 4.8 percent of gross domestic product to 6.2 percent by 2035, an increase of 1.4 percentage points.


The long-term cost of Social Security is best summarized in Table IV.B6 of the trustees’ report, which calculates it over the “infinite horizon.” This is a statistical technique that takes spending far in the future and puts it into today’s dollars, adjusted for the rate of interest. This calculation says that Social Security would need $17.9 trillion in productive assets – stocks, corporate bonds, buildings, whatever – to produce enough income today to cover the difference between what the payroll tax will generate and the benefits that have been promised.


Of course, no such trust fund exists.


The current Social Security trust fund contains only Treasury securities, which simply allows general revenues to fund benefits up to a point. The economy isn’t large enough to create a sufficiently large real trust fund even if we wanted to create one. The country’s gross domestic product is about $15 trillion dollars, so if we put 100 percent of a year’s production by every business and worker in America into the Social Security trust fund, it would not be enough to pay benefits in perpetuity.


Put another way, the Federal Reserve (http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/Current/) says that the nation’s net wealth is about $57 trillion. That figure would have to be $18 trillion larger to generate enough additional G.D.P. to pay Social Security benefits without making anyone worse off in the future through higher taxes or lower benefits.


Another way to think about it is that the long term Social Security deficit is 1.2 percent of G.D.P., or 3.6 percent of taxable payrolls.


Thus we could raise the Social Security tax rate from 12.4 percent, which it has (http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/cbb.html) been for the last few years, to 16 percent immediately and forever, or we can assume general revenue financing for the unfunded liability and would have to increase federal income taxes from 6.2 percent of G.D.P. to 7.4 percent, about a 30 percent increase in the amount of income tax revenues the government needs to collect.


Turning to Medicare, its finances are more complicated because it is really three separate programs that are financed differently.


Part A pays for hospital visits and is financed by the Medicare portion of the payroll tax, which is 2.9 percent. (That leaves the total payroll tax rate, at 15.3 percent, ignoring the temporary cut enacted last year as a stimulus program.)


As a result of cost saving measures implemented by the Affordable Care Act, this portion of Medicare has virtually no long-term unfunded liability according to Table III.B10 of the trustees’ report. The 2009 report (http://www.cms.gov/ReportsTrustFunds/downloads/tr2009.pdf), before passage of the new health care law, had estimated a long-run unfunded liability of $36.4 trillion, which is equivalent to 2.8 percent of G.D.P. forever and would have required a payroll tax increase of 6.5 percent. (Also Table III.B10.)


But Medicare has two other important components.


First is Part B, which pays for doctors’ visits and is financed partly by premiums paid by beneficiaries and partly by general revenues. It has no trust fund. Originally, premiums paid 50 percent of Part B’s costs, but now that is down to just 25 percent. The long term general revenue contribution to Medicare Part B is estimated at $22.4 trillion or 1.5 percent of G.D.P. in perpetuity. (Table III.C15.)


Finally, there is Medicare Part D, which George W. Bush and Congressional Republicans rammed into law in 2003. Even though Medicare’s finances were rapidly deteriorating, they provided no additional funding for Part D beyond trivial premiums paid by beneficiaries. The unfunded cost of this program is estimated at $16.1 trillion, or 1.1 percent of G.D.P. in perpetuity. (Table III.C23.)


Thus we see that Social Security and Medicare are underfunded relative to promised benefits by $56.4 trillion or 3.8 percent of G.D.P. per year forever. To put these programs on a sound footing, federal income taxes would have to rise from 6.2 percent of G.D.P. to 10 percent, an increase of 61 percent.
In other words, whatever amount you paid on your federal income tax return this year would need to be 61 percent more, now and forever, to pay all the Social Security and Medicare benefits that have been promised over and above the payroll tax.


What’s worse, these numbers may be conservative.


Medicare’s actuaries do not believe their own projections are realistic because they were required to assume that a key provision of current law will take effect as scheduled. This is known as the “sustainable growth rate” (S.G.R.) and involves implementation of a law enacted in 1997 (http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/R40907_20091106.pdf), but repeatedly postponed by Republican and Democratic Congresses. It would require a 29.4 percent cut in fees for doctors who treat Medicare patients on Jan. 1, 2012.


The Medicare actuaries just don’t believe this provision will be allowed to take place because they think Congress will punt the ball once again. Therefore the official estimates of Medicare’s fiscal position are much too optimistic.


But what if President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner agreed, as part of negotiations on raising the debt limit, to let the this cut in Medicare fees take effect as current law requires?


That would cut Medicare’s costs very substantially over current policy – something Mr. Boehner has demanded as a price to prevent the Treasury from defaulting on the debt (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/us/politics/10boehner.html?_r=1&scp=5&sq=Boehner&st=nyt). The virtue of this approach is that no one has to do anything – the sustainable growth rate is already in law. All our leaders have to do is promise not to change the law and instead allow it to take effect on schedule.


The doctors will scream bloody murder and threaten to stop treating Medicare patients. It will be ugly.


But everyone knows that Medicare needs to be cut, and as the biggest contributor to long-run deficits, doing something meaningful to reduce spending on this program will demonstrate resolve and commitment to deal with entitlement spending. It’s exactly the sort of thing Mr. Boehner says he wants in order to raise the debt limit.


I think if he and Mr. Obama jointly committed not to implement another so-called “doc-fix” — the delay in cutting Medicare fees — it would be a solid first step on finding a bipartisan approach to dealing with the deficit.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/17/the-real-social-security-and-medicare-problemand-a-doable-fix/

coyotes_geek
05-18-2011, 04:43 PM
In other words, whatever amount you paid on your federal income tax return this year would need to be 61 percent more, now and forever, to pay all the Social Security and Medicare benefits that have been promised over and above the payroll tax.

Let's just let this sink in for a minute.............

boutons_deux
05-19-2011, 08:32 AM
"61 percent more, now and forever, to pay all the Social Security and Medicare benefits"

while most of expense that is Medicare, not SS. Sick-care ripoff costs is the urgent problem, not SS.

Public option health care insurance, where people pay in from the salaries ($15K/year to for-profit insurers/shareholders) for the workking career would fund a govt medical care.

Winehole23
05-19-2011, 01:22 PM
"61 percent more, now and forever, to pay all the Social Security and Medicare benefits"

while most of expense that is Medicare, not SS. Sick-care ripoff costs is the urgent problem, not SS.So?

Public option health care insurance, where people pay in from the salaries ($15K/year to for-profit insurers/shareholders) for the workking career would fund a govt medical care.Too bad Obama didn't have the guts to fight for it, eh?

boutons_deux
05-19-2011, 02:08 PM
Another doable fix, that won't be done

The "Sane and Easy" $4 Trillion Deficit Reduction

Budget numbers fly around Congress and the DC-media so fast they hardly alight to make sense of them. Meanwhile, the middle class shudders to think what further assaults against it may be in the offing under the guise of shrinking runaway deficits.

When Republicans are on the wrong side of an issue, their technique is to throw up smokescreens so what can be done straightforwardly seems overly vague and complex. Democrats often oblige by offering point-by-point rejoinders, and the public has difficulty making sense out of anything.

So, to provide harmony and clarity, I offer this simple "sane and easy" $4T deficit reduction program.

If deficit cuts must be massive to impress markets, here is what a sane government in our current position would choose among the options to do initially, without triggering honest policy disagreements. [Note the adjective "honest" modifying "policy disagreements"].

The IRS reports that there is ~$300B in uncollected taxes annually. Republicans de-fund the IRS so the money cannot be collected. This is an unvoted upon tax-cut of massive size that goes mostly to the wealthy. If we provide proper funding, let us assume that only 2/3 could actually efficiently found and recovered. That amounts to $2 trillion over a decade.

That's halfway to the goal without any spending cuts or tax rate increases.

A financial activities ("FAT") tax of only 0.5% would collect $100B annually, or $1 trillion in a decade.

We have now reached $3 Trillion in reductions. The financial industry cannot afford an infinitesimal 0.5%? GMAFB.

Reducing defense expenditures by 10%, that should not be difficult by bringing troops home from Iraq and winding down Afghanistan as is scheduled, would generate another $60B annually, or $600B in a decade.

That is $3.6 Trillion of deficit reductions.

Allowing the Bush tax cuts to go back to their levels under Bill Clinton for the top bracket would raise another $70B annually, or $700B in 10 years. If one cares to argue that we do not need the entire $700B, then raise the top bracket cutoff higher than $250,000, and impose a higher tax rate on it than 39.6%, so that we get $50B annually, or $500B in 10 years.

We have now hit $4.1-4.3 Trillion. No poor person has been denied benefits, no sick child has gone without healthcare, no teachers have been laid off, no firefighters denied their pensions, no medicare beneficiaries denied their benefits, no Head Start program has been downsized.

Taxes have been raised only infinitesimally on financial institutions and minimally on individuals who can well afford it.

Now, these changes are not sufficient to bring our budgets into balance, or retire our national debt as we could have done without the tax cuts and wars the disastrous Bush Administration pursued and the Great Recession its policies brought about.

But, we are where we are.

Think of this $4.1-3 trillion as a no hardship-related downpayment on our future. This will provide time to consider how to retain Medicare as a guaranteed benefit but reform its payment system and re-organize the care system for the most costly patients, improving outcomes, reducing costs, and not throwing seniors into the private insurance system. It will also provide time to determine if there are more fundamental cuts that can be made to military spending, based upon a modernized set of defense goals. It will enable us to reduce agricultural subsidies to big agribusinesses.

That's the sort of stuff that is harder, more complex, with downstream effects that need to be weighed. Right now, we can reduce the projected deficits by $4.3T over the next decade, painlessly.

A sane society would do it.

And, get on with the business of righting our economic ship by investing in our children's future.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/the-sane-and-easy-4-trill_b_863972.html?view=print

RandomGuy
05-19-2011, 04:49 PM
Another doable fix, that won't be done

The "Sane and Easy" $4 Trillion Deficit Reduction

Budget numbers fly around Congress and the DC-media so fast they hardly alight to make sense of them. Meanwhile, the middle class shudders to think what further assaults against it may be in the offing under the guise of shrinking runaway deficits.

When Republicans are on the wrong side of an issue, their technique is to throw up smokescreens so what can be done straightforwardly seems overly vague and complex. Democrats often oblige by offering point-by-point rejoinders, and the public has difficulty making sense out of anything.

So, to provide harmony and clarity, I offer this simple "sane and easy" $4T deficit reduction program.

If deficit cuts must be massive to impress markets, here is what a sane government in our current position would choose among the options to do initially, without triggering honest policy disagreements. [Note the adjective "honest" modifying "policy disagreements"].

The IRS reports that there is ~$300B in uncollected taxes annually. Republicans de-fund the IRS so the money cannot be collected. This is an unvoted upon tax-cut of massive size that goes mostly to the wealthy. If we provide proper funding, let us assume that only 2/3 could actually efficiently found and recovered. That amounts to $2 trillion over a decade.

That's halfway to the goal without any spending cuts or tax rate increases.

A financial activities ("FAT") tax of only 0.5% would collect $100B annually, or $1 trillion in a decade.

We have now reached $3 Trillion in reductions. The financial industry cannot afford an infinitesimal 0.5%? GMAFB.

Reducing defense expenditures by 10%, that should not be difficult by bringing troops home from Iraq and winding down Afghanistan as is scheduled, would generate another $60B annually, or $600B in a decade.

That is $3.6 Trillion of deficit reductions.

Allowing the Bush tax cuts to go back to their levels under Bill Clinton for the top bracket would raise another $70B annually, or $700B in 10 years. If one cares to argue that we do not need the entire $700B, then raise the top bracket cutoff higher than $250,000, and impose a higher tax rate on it than 39.6%, so that we get $50B annually, or $500B in 10 years.

We have now hit $4.1-4.3 Trillion. No poor person has been denied benefits, no sick child has gone without healthcare, no teachers have been laid off, no firefighters denied their pensions, no medicare beneficiaries denied their benefits, no Head Start program has been downsized.

Taxes have been raised only infinitesimally on financial institutions and minimally on individuals who can well afford it.

Now, these changes are not sufficient to bring our budgets into balance, or retire our national debt as we could have done without the tax cuts and wars the disastrous Bush Administration pursued and the Great Recession its policies brought about.

But, we are where we are.

Think of this $4.1-3 trillion as a no hardship-related downpayment on our future. This will provide time to consider how to retain Medicare as a guaranteed benefit but reform its payment system and re-organize the care system for the most costly patients, improving outcomes, reducing costs, and not throwing seniors into the private insurance system. It will also provide time to determine if there are more fundamental cuts that can be made to military spending, based upon a modernized set of defense goals. It will enable us to reduce agricultural subsidies to big agribusinesses.

That's the sort of stuff that is harder, more complex, with downstream effects that need to be weighed. Right now, we can reduce the projected deficits by $4.3T over the next decade, painlessly.

A sane society would do it.

And, get on with the business of righting our economic ship by investing in our children's future.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/the-sane-and-easy-4-trill_b_863972.html?view=print

Not entirely out of the pale, IMO.

But any such tax increases would be decried as the "New Socialism" and the current GOP would scream bloody murder.

I thnk the guys estimates are all probably a bit optimistic tho' for a few reasons that would take a bit long to flesh out.

TeyshaBlue
05-19-2011, 04:50 PM
I thought the IRS collection projections were pretty pie in the sky.

boutons_deux
05-19-2011, 05:10 PM
3 Things Everyone Knows About Social Security That Aren't True


Uncle Sam issued the 2011 Social Security trustees report last week, fittingly enough on Friday the 13th. The headline: Social Security will run an estimated $46 million in the red this year, more than was expected last year, and the trust fund will be exhausted in 2036, a year earlier than projected.

If you're already mad about Social Security, this will make you even madder. Judging from the comments I've received on Social Security posts in the past, Americans believe they have been taken advantage of in three ways:

1) In 1983, the system set out to build a huge trust fund to tide it over through the baby boom's retirement.

2) Congress then raided the fund, and

3) now the system is now doomed to go bankrupt.

Now, there are good reasons to be angry about how Congress has handled Social Security. But the popular narrative about the raid on the trust fund isn't one of them. Because the story isn't quite true.

First, there was never a deliberate plan to lay money aside for the boomers. You can read this summary of the Social Security Amendments of 1983 and the Social Security Trustees Report of 1984, and the prospect of a huge trust fund acting as saving for the boomers never comes up. (The latter describes the trust fund as "a contingency reserve to absorb temporary fluctuations in income and outgo." Nothing about saving for a silver tsunami in the 21st century.) The trustees show considerable concern that the system will technically be in "long term actuarial balance" as a result of the benefit cuts and tax hikes included in the 1983 amendments, but that's the extent of their apparent long-term thinking.

Remember, when Reagan signed the 1983 amendments, Social Security was on the brink of not being able to mail out checks, and at the time, the oldest boomer was under 40. Lawmakers and Social Security were worried about the next decade, not about creating a piggy bank for the next century.

Naturally, the actuaries could see the system would run an annual surplus if the economy grew reasonably well. But as to how that extra money might have been saved for the boomers (put it Fidelity funds?) and then drawn down when they retired: Not a word.

In the end the economy did do reasonably well in the 1980s and 1990s, and the surpluses built into a huge trust fund balance. Did Congress raid that money? Well, raiding is a loaded word. By law, the trust fund has to be invested in Treasury bonds, and Treasuries are nothing more than IOUs that Uncle Sam issues to raise money for the things that government needs--like stealth helicopters, helmet cameras for Navy Seals, IRS paper clips and pensions for mail carriers. Yes, the government spent it. There was nothing else it was allowed to do. Is that raiding?

Perhaps, as the estimable financial journalist Scott Burns suggests, Congress might have voted to give those annual surpluses back, but then taxes would have fluctuated every year and there would still be 75 million baby boomers retiring in the early 21st century and no piggy bank to crack open for them. The fundamental problem Social Security faces is that the nation is aging. If the Greatest Generation had fewer kids and the boomers had more kids and didn't live so darn long, we wouldn't have this problem. But it's hard to lay that one at Congress's feet.

Finally, Social Security is not going bankrupt. It is a pay-as-you-go system, which means that as long as taxpayers are willing to pay benefits to retirees, Social Security checks will keep coming... the real risk to your future benefits is that taxpayers will stop supporting seniors as generously as they have. In fact, it seems obvious that taxpayers will have to cut back sooner or later. Before the burden of Social Security and Medicare becomes unbearable -- by 2035, they're together expected to consume about 12% of GDP, or two thirds of every tax dollar -- we need to have a national conversation about how much we want to spend on seniors.

But telling ourselves melodramatic stories about how we were cheated by Congress won't help us have that conversation. Let's get our story straight.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schurenberg/social-security-seniors_b_864105.html?view=print

Nbadan
05-20-2011, 12:47 AM
Not entirely out of the pale, IMO.

But any such tax increases would be decried as the "New Socialism" and the current GOP would scream bloody murder.

I thnk the guys estimates are all probably a bit optimistic tho' for a few reasons that would take a bit long to flesh out.

The figures may be a bit pie in the sky but I think that showing other countries that we are on track to pay off some of the debt would help keep rates low on future treasury rollovers and interest rates low for borrowers