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Brazil
05-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Why everybody is acting like Miami will win this serie ?
Dallas swept the defending champs, they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3. Dirk is playing the best bb of his life and he is a clutch mofo, of all the POs teams mavs are the only ones to execute properly in the fourth when the game is on the line.
I'm sorry to say that but the Mavs are the favorites against Miami, they will win this serie in 6. If not I'd call that a choke job.
TampaDude
05-26-2011, 09:29 AM
Well, one thing is for sure...either Dirk or LeBron is gonna ring for the first time.
Brazil
05-26-2011, 09:36 AM
Dirk will dominate Lebron book it
Kyle Orton
05-26-2011, 09:37 AM
lol Brazil
lol Parker
lol dominated by Mike Conley like it was WWII and he was Nazi Germany
Brazil
05-26-2011, 09:43 AM
lol Brazil
lol Parker
lol dominated by Mike Conley like it was WWII and he was Nazi Germany
I don't see these lol things being related to the subject of this thread.
Focus a little kyle, is dallas favorite to win it all ?
I'd be more than happy to know your opinion.
lefty
05-26-2011, 09:48 AM
Why everybody is acting like Miami will win this serie ?
Dallas swept the defending champs, they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3. Dirk is playing the best bb of his life and he is a clutch mofo, of all the POs teams mavs are the only ones to execute properly in the fourth when the game is on the line.
I'm sorry to say that but the Mavs are the favorites against Miami, they will win this serie in 6. If not I'd call that a choke job.
The refs
Brazil
05-26-2011, 09:49 AM
The refs
well Dirk is playing for the mavs
lefty
05-26-2011, 09:50 AM
well Dirk is playing for the mavs
He was in 2006 too
It's going to be tough. The Heat have some outside shooters as well, and we know they can get to the rim and get out in transition, but their defense is very strong. They might not defend Dirk well (as good as can be expected) but if they shut down the others, they could be fine. However, I see the Mavs as being the winners after it's over.
Bill_Brasky
05-26-2011, 09:53 AM
Heat gonna win this shit in 5. They don't choke leads away like the thunder.
lol Brazil
lol Parker
lol dominated by Mike Conley like it was WWII and he was Nazi Germany
lol Shawn Marion finally getting to the Finals with a decent team.
cheguevara
05-26-2011, 09:54 AM
Focus a little kyle, is dallas favorite to win it all ?
I'd be more than happy to know your opinion.
:lol
BanditHiro
05-26-2011, 09:55 AM
Why everybody is acting like Miami will win this serie ?
Dallas swept the defending champs, they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3. Dirk is playing the best bb of his life and he is a clutch mofo, of all the POs teams mavs are the only ones to execute properly in the fourth when the game is on the line.
I'm sorry to say that but the Mavs are the favorites against Miami, they will win this serie in 6. If not I'd call that a choke job.
i see what you did there
Brazil
05-26-2011, 10:06 AM
i see what you did there
When a team whatever the context is good enough to sweep the 2 times defending champs fully healthy we must consider this team the favorites to win it all especially after loosing only 3 games against lakers, Portland and OKC. I'm just calling a cat, a cat, not winning the :lobt: this year would be an upset.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 10:45 AM
I like the Mavs chances a lot. I always look to see which team plays better in the clutch, especially when these 2 teams are pretty evenly matched.
Dallas has been great at closing all playoffs, while the Heat have been known to struggle in that area. I know beaner spurfan thinks it will be Miami in 4 because they don't know shit about basketball and they think Miami being big, black, and athletic is enough, but I don't see it that way tbh
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 10:51 AM
Mavs wins Game 1. Dirk and Jet with convincing performances. Ahh, yes this Dallas team is for real!
Heat bounces back and evens the series in Game 2. Wade showed some 2006 form.
Heat steals the 1st game in Dallas. Lebron and Wade doing their thang! Marion and Terry nowhere to be found.
Dallas comes back to win Game 4. Cool beans.
Shit got serious as Heat wins Game 5. Lebron with a big game in this OT game.
Heat finally closes the Mavs in Miami. Lebron wins Finals MVP. Dirk kicks another exercise bike and Cuban finally puts the Mavs for sale.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 10:55 AM
crofl
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 10:59 AM
Its 2-3-2 format dumbass
I wasn't done yet. Don't get too excited.
Heat fan showing his true colors.
The 4cc Dictionary
05-26-2011, 11:00 AM
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i dont know what it is but not knowing shit about the NBA Finals then turning around and editing the post, hoping nobody would notice, dumps smegma all over ChrisRichard's basketball takes i saaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddddd
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 11:05 AM
:lol@ Tyson Chandler having to log in and use 2 of his troll account. Pathetic nigga.
stretch
05-26-2011, 11:05 AM
I like the Mavs chances a lot. I always look to see which team plays better in the clutch, especially when these 2 teams are pretty evenly matched.
Dallas has been great at closing all playoffs, while the Heat have been known to struggle in that area. I know beaner spurfan thinks it will be Miami in 4 because they don't know shit about basketball and they think Miami being big, black, and athletic is enough, but I don't see it that way tbh
+1
Mavs are much more unpredictable in the clutch. Dirk is already perhaps the most unpredictable/unguardable offensive force in the NBA, where as you know exactly what Miami will do... let Wade or Bron go iso, if trapped they kick it out for a 3. Granted, its tough to stop, but a good team effort can overcome it because of the fact that its predictable.
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 11:08 AM
+1
Mavs are much more unpredictable in the clutch. Dirk is already perhaps the most unpredictable/unguardable offensive force in the NBA, where as you know exactly what Miami will do... let Wade or Bron go iso, if trapped they kick it out for a 3. Granted, its tough to stop, but a good team effort can overcome it because of the fact that its predictable.
Dirk is predictable, he's just really unguardable at the moment. I think Collison did a trememndous job on him but it seems like you can't even breathe on Nowitzki nowadays.
I expect this trend to continue in the Finals. We're hoping Lebron's star status will cancel the bias when he guards Dirk in the closing minutes.
picc84
05-26-2011, 11:12 AM
Who has HC?
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 11:13 AM
Heat
stretch
05-26-2011, 11:16 AM
Dirk is predictable, he's just really unguardable at the moment. I think Collison did a trememndous job on him but it seems like you can't even breathe on Nowitzki nowadays.
what the fuck are you talking about? Collison was sticking his dick in Dirks belly button every fucking time he was defending him, with no call.
Thing is, Dirk has all kinds of different moves he can throw at you. He is the most offensively versatile player in the league right now, along with Kobe and Nash. He has tremendous footwork, all sorts of fakes, spins, and strange contortions, and then he has mastered one of the most uniquely unguardable shots in NBA history (the one legged off balance fadeaway), right there with Kareems skyhook. Dude may use his fadeaway frequently, but it doesnt make him predictable. He uses that to bait people into either fouling him, or biting a fake so he blows past them for an easy bucket. If you don't get baited in, then he will just keep taking and hitting it. Defender is pretty much at his mercy when one-on-one in a late-game situation.
I expect this trend to continue in the Finals. We're hoping Lebron's star status will cancel the bias when he guards Dirk in the closing minutes.
If Bron can consistently guard Dirk effectively in crunch time, its going to make it pretty tough for the Mavs. I don't expect that to happen, but at the same time, I wouldn't be suprised to see him do a decent job. When he wants to be, Lebron is maybe the best one-on-one defender I have ever seen.
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Eh, the refs have been inconsistent like always. They seem to allow Collison to body up on Dirk and minutes later depending on which team has momentum will call the same defense a foul. I'm not going to take away anything from Dirk. He's been that good and he's the most focused NBA player in the playoffs this year. Also, like I said before, I think Bosh and Haslem will guard Dirk for the most part with Lebron volunteering to defend Dirk in the last 2-3 minutes of a close game.
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 11:29 AM
We should really examine the Mavs opponents to get an accurate idea of how they'll play against Miami.
Portland - Decent team but still trying to find it's identity.
Lakers - Yeah, about that. They were horrible in all aspects.
Thunder - Good team but hasn't formed a cohesive group to translate into defensive stops when necessary.
As it stands, Miami is likely going to be the best offensive and the best defensive team Dallas has played. After Dirk, you have a massive falloff to the #2 guy on the scoring totem pole, while Miami obviously has a trio of guys that can hurt you on any given night, and usually one of them is going off.
What should be really concerned for Dallas isn't stopping the Heat, it's the defensive matchups that the Heat are going to give them. Is Terry going to be able to do anything with Wade draped on him? How about LeBron guarding basically anyone on the Mavs including Dirk? He's long enough to give him fits, and as we've seen in past playoffs, strong guard/forward players who can force Dirk into uncomfortable shots give him difficulties. Bosh isn't going to stop Dirk by any means, but the Heat are also in the enviable position of just letting Nowitski have his 40+ points per night and shutting literally everyone else down on the team. With Butler healthy they'd be in a position to force mismatches, but I just don't see the Mavs having enough firepower against a good defensive team (and they haven't played one yet since the Lakers decided not to show up) to win 4 out of 7. I mean, come on, JJ Barea has been terrorizing teams in the playoffs. That should say all you need to know about the kind of defenses Dallas has played against in the first 3 rounds.
Now, flip it around. Who's going to guard James? How about Wade? Even if Bosh is only hot for one or two games out of the series, that's going to force Chandler or Dirk out of the lane to guard him and give Miami more penetration opportunities. And I somehow doubt that LeBron and Wade are going to have as much trouble with the Mavs interior as the teams out West they've played so far.
eric365
05-26-2011, 11:45 AM
When a team whatever the context is good enough to sweep the 2 times defending champs fully healthy we must consider this team the favorites to win it all especially after loosing only 3 games against lakers, Portland and OKC. I'm just calling a cat, a cat, not winning the :lobt: this year would be an upset.
In a normal season, a team sweeping the defending champ etc... would be the huge favourite and it would be choking to lose in finals
But it's not a normal season. It's a season where a new contender has been created with the 2 times MVP, the 2nd best player in the league and an all star big man all in their prime
Losing against them is not choking. For any team.
JamStone
05-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Few points...
stretch, like him or not, Carmelo Anthony is the most versatile scorer in the league.
Dallas has played well enough and against some of the better teams in the league in the playoffs that they shouldn't be discounted at all. Doesn't mean they should win, but they've been that good. Plus, they're like 5-2 in the playoffs on the road. That's pretty crazy right there considering their competition.
As for Miami having a trio of guys that can hurt you on any given night, that's true. If the playoffs have shown us anything, it's not what you get from the guys you expect to show up. It's what you get with guys that come out of nowhere to give great performances. Terry, Peja in that Lakers series. On any given night right? JJ Barea playing out of his mind. Shawn Marion in game 5. Heck it applies to the Heat as well. I think the series is tied or maybe even in Chicago's favor if the Heat don't get unexpectedly great performances from Udonis Haslem in game 2 and Mike Miller in game 4.
Sure it will be a tough defensive match-up for the Mavs. Absolutely. I expect Marion to play LeBron a lot for the most part and DeShawn Stevenson to start on Wade. And off the bench, they'll have to mix and match and/or play a little zone to try to guard those two. Obviously, Tyson Chandler and Brendan Haywood will have to play big in the paint to try to force those two guys to beat them with jumpers. And if they do, I think the Mavs will live with that. No one on the Heat is guarding Dirk. It's up to Dirk to continue to make those crazy shots at a crazy clip. It's up to guys like Terry and Marion and Kidd and Barea and Peja (if he gets some minutes) to come up big... on any given night to help Dirk out.
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:00 PM
I'm tired of people saying "Dirk is playing the best ball of his career"... Dirk is ALWAYS like this in the playoffs... except for 2007, which is a fluke.
What Dirk is doing is standard... what the backcourt + Chandler/Marion has done is why this year is different from the 3 years past..
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:02 PM
As it stands, Miami is likely going to be the best offensive and the best defensive team Dallas has played.
crofl
the Lakers offense shits all over Miami's offense. They will definitely be the best defensive team they've played but OKC/Portland were no slouches on that end either
Miami in 7. I've got Dallas splitting the first two in Miami, then taking two in Dallas, with Miami taking the last 2 at home. Everyone's talking about how important this is for Dirk's legacy, but Lebron has a ton of pressure on him to ring this season. This is really going to be a great series to watch.
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:04 PM
OKC is just as good as Miami offensively IMO.
LA, and Portland (after Wallace trade), and OKC (after Perkins trade) were all good defensive teams.. Miami is better than all of them defensively, but I Digress.
crofl
the Lakers offense shits all over Miami's offense.
Not when Pau's girl is skullfucking him...
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 12:09 PM
crofl
the Lakers offense shits all over Miami's offense. They will definitely be the best defensive team they've played but OKC/Portland were no slouches on that end either
The Lakers were not functioning properly this postseason. I don't think this years Dallas would stand a chance against last years Champion.
ElNono
05-26-2011, 12:12 PM
The only thing to be concerned about if you're Dallas, is that they need to be more consistent on defense throughout. You can't fall behind then think you can just turn it on in the 4th. It's what happened in the last couple of games, and thanks to OKC's ineptitude, it worked out well, but you can't just rely on it.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:12 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
i don't wanna hear shit about how Dallas hasn't played anybody this postseason. They played what everybody thought beforehand was the toughest first round matchup in Portland (good luck convincing GNSF that the 11 Grizzlies =/= 99 Spurs crofl) and then fucking swept the team that had been dominating the NBA the last few years.
Then they were to be a sacrifice to the Thunder who, according to alot of beaner spurfans, just won the NBA Finals against the Grizzlies and dispatched of them easily.
And now all of a sudden they haven't been tested yet :rollin
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:13 PM
bump
ElNono
05-26-2011, 12:14 PM
I just want to know if Mavfan is going to be as classy as us if defeat ends up being their future... :cry :cry :cry :cry
ChrisRichards
05-26-2011, 12:16 PM
The only thing to be concerned about if you're Dallas, is that they need to be more consistent on defense throughout. You can't fall behind then think you can just turn it on in the 4th. It's what happened in the last couple of games, and thanks to OKC's ineptitude, it worked out well, but you can't just rely on it.
Very good point L. Dallas has been pretty fortunate to close out a very inexperienced team. OKC was up by a pretty good margin in the last 2 games but the Thunders youth was exposed.
The Heat with Wade and Lebron will have none of those.
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:17 PM
Miami has been pretty fortunate to close out a very inexperienced team.. see? :)
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Very good point L. Dallas has been pretty fortunate to close out a very inexperienced team. OKC was up by a pretty good margin in the last 2 games but the Thunders youth was exposed.
The Heat with Wade and Lebron will have none of those.
Damm you make a great point!!!
:madrun Thank God we played those inexperienced Lakers! Their lack of experience is why they lost! Not because the Mavs are actually a good team or anything!! :madrun
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:19 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
i don't wanna hear shit about how Dallas hasn't played anybody this postseason. They played what everybody thought beforehand was the toughest first round matchup in Portland
A tough first round matchup is not nearly the same level as a tough 3rd round matchup, to say nothing of the Finals.
then fucking swept the team that had been dominating the NBA the last few years.
Only a Mavs homer would think that the Lakers team this year is equal to the champions of the back to back titles. They played with no heart and no leadership. JJ Barea went wild on them, and I don't think there's a single dominant defensive team in history that would have let that happen, no offense to JJ. I'm fairly certain OKC would have beaten the Lakers in 5-6 if they would have met in the 2nd round. They just had no one who wanted to exert their will over the game.
Then they were to be a sacrifice to the Thunder who, according to alot of beaner spurfans, just won the NBA Finals against the Grizzlies and dispatched of them easily.
I had Dallas over OKC in 6, citing the fact that the Thunder just don't play consistent defense.
And now all of a sudden they haven't been tested yet :rollin
They have played 1 solid team, 1 excellent team that didn't really have their heart in it, and 1 very good team. However, the Heat are a stellar playoff team and want to win roughly 5000x more than the Lakers did. No one Dallas has played yet plays the full 48 on both sides of the court. In fairness, I think Dallas will be the best team Miami has played so far, but I'd take the Bulls over any team Dallas has had to deal with, too.
Miami >=< Dallas > Bulls > Thunder.
I'm not attempting to sell Dallas short, I'm just saying I don't see how you can so calmly rationalize Dallas in 6 considering how good Miami is compared to the other teams Dallas has played.
Heat in 5. Their young Big 3 is like a god damn video game cheat code since they can always have a star on the court. NBA's fucked.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:22 PM
Only a Mavs homer would think that the Lakers team this year is equal to the champions of the back to back titles. They played with no heart and no leadership. JJ Barea went wild on them, and I don't think there's a single dominant defensive team in history that would have let that happen.
Only a Spurs homer would completely discredit the job the Mavs did in that series. Every game except for the tanked Game 4 came down to the wire. They just out executed the Lakers down the stretch
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 12:23 PM
:lol Mavs going to the Finals has upset CryHavoc
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:24 PM
Only a Spurs homer would completely discredit the job the Mavs did in that series. Every game except for the tanked Game 4 came down to the wire. They just out executed the Lakers down the stretch
Please show me where I'm discrediting them? I'm simply making the point that the Lakers weren't as good as last season, and I said it before the Mavs series when Chris Paul's hobbled, tired, one-man show almost took them 7 before CP3 ran out of gas.
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:24 PM
Cry Havoc... U MAD? :lmao
ElNono
05-26-2011, 12:25 PM
The Mavs were clearly the better team against the Lakeshow, no doubt about it. There will be no short list of excuses from certain Lakerfans (Overrated woman mammaries had trust issues, Pau was heartbroken, Artest missed a game, etc), but outside the first game, the Lakers never had a chance.
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:25 PM
:lol Mavs going to the Finals has upset CryHavoc
You guys are awfully defensive. Just because I think Miami is going to win (in 7 grueling games) means I'm "upset" at your team. :lol Ok. You guys have that us against the world victim type role down awfully well. :lol
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Cry Havoc... U MAD? :lmao
Dear god, I'm furious. You wouldn't believe. One of the classiest, most loyal, incredible offensive forces in NBA history potentially getting a ring just makes my blood boil. :lol
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:28 PM
when the mavs win i'm going to choke you out with your scarf and throw your bike off the train or was it a bus
Mavs fans: Leading the league in the ability to talk about how horrible their team is/blow it up in the offseason, to picking against us = hating us, to planning the championship parade before the Finals has even started. Quite humorous. :hat
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:28 PM
Please show me where I'm discrediting them?
oh boy!
Portland - Decent team but still trying to find it's identity.
Lakers - Yeah, about that. They were horrible in all aspects.
Thunder - Good team but hasn't formed a cohesive group to translate into defensive stops when necessary.
I mean, come on, JJ Barea has been terrorizing teams in the playoffs. That should say all you need to know about the kind of defenses Dallas has played against in the first 3 rounds.
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:31 PM
oh boy!
So are you willing say that the Lakers were as good this season as last? Because I'm fairly certain that 90%+ of NBA fans outside of Dallas will disagree with you. They played an incredible series against a team that was still extremely potent, just not at their peak. Sweeping the Lakers who were perhaps an 8.5 or 9 overall instead of the 9.5 they were last season does NOTHING to discredit the Mavs. Your team still manned up and beat the shit out of them.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:37 PM
So are you willing say that the Lakers were as good this season as last? Because I'm fairly certain that 90%+ of NBA fans outside of Dallas will disagree with you.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao of course they're gonna say that AFTER the fucking series
Please don't act like anybody really thought Dallas had a remote chance at beating LA before the series.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/5/2/2149775/lakers-mavericks-western-conference-semifinals-2011-roundtable
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:40 PM
totally obvious the Lakers weren't as good as last year crofl tbh imho
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/Greenville/NBAso-calledexperts.png
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 12:41 PM
Lakers brought back the same team that won the 2010 championship... Artest/Bynum/Kobe/Gasol/Odom/Fisher... only difference was Mavs forced them into submission.. and Dirk owned Gasol..
Brazil
05-26-2011, 12:41 PM
Dear God spurs fans sometimes pfffff
So the Grizz outplaying us on every damn aspect of a basketball game are not the better team. If Manu healthy, if Pop had played Manu the first game... blabla
Now the Mavs have not been tested ? even sloppy, if not for the mavs, the lakers would have defeated every nba teams on their way, easily, except 2 teams in the east.
Don't forget that, even damn impressive, the Miami team is a brand new team with some adjustments to be made: see involving consistently Bosh in the Offense, better execution in the fourth, 3 pts shooting (Miami needs to know what they want, one game they shoot 15 3s, the other game they shoot 5 against the same team while the FG% is the same), Wade is up and down since Lebroun took the clear leadership...
Miami or Chicago will be much better next year, for Dallas it's now or never, a Miami loss would just be learning curve. Mavs have everything they need this year to take the LOB trophy.
I do seriously think the Mavs are the favorites and they should behave like that playing with confidence.
A loss would be a choke job, there is no better word for that.
Andrew Cunanan
05-26-2011, 12:46 PM
How long till CH asks his girlfriend to come on here and fight his battles again?
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 12:49 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao of course they're gonna say that AFTER the fucking series
Please don't act like anybody really thought Dallas had a remote chance at beating LA before the series.
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2011/5/2/2149775/lakers-mavericks-western-conference-semifinals-2011-roundtable
Unfortunately for your comparison (but fortunately for the Mavs), teams don't play how they're billed to play. Obviously if that were true, no majority prediction would be wrong, and we could sim out every series on 2k11. The bottom line is the Lakers were lackluster all season. There were cracks showing with the big losing streaks they endured, and then they let two games go against a New Orleans team that barely had any business being in the playoffs. People didn't want to pick against the Laker mystique and most of all sports writers don't like picking against Kobe, because "he's the clutchest player ever" and such hyperbole.
You're basing the play of the Lakers on media hype? If so, you guys bought into it too, because I didn't see many Mavs fans talking about beating LA when that series started. :lol
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 12:53 PM
You're basing the play of the Lakers on media hype? If so, you guys bought into it too, because I didn't see many Mavs fans talking about beating LA when that series started. :lol
Of course, I bought into it. I thought the Lakers would fuck us sideways like no tomorrow. But after we swept them, I realized the obvious and that is we were just a damn good team and admitted I was wrong.
I didn't try and revise history, diminishing the Lakers, by saying stuff like "oh it was obvious we were gonna win due to blah blah blah losing streak in the regular season"
Fpoonsie
05-26-2011, 12:57 PM
Mavs in 5.
DAL loses the first, causing Spur fan to circle-jerk so hard that the Tex-Mex-scented ejaculate can be smelled all the way in the basement.
They then win a thriller in Gm 2. Win the 3rd game handily, w/ Terry having another ridiculous shooting night from outside. The 4th is another thriller (possibly in OT w/ Dirk going god-mode yet again), and the 5th game they close it out, w/ some unlikely hero (Peja or JJ coming up big).
BUMP's Comm. Teacher
05-26-2011, 01:00 PM
DAL loses the first, causing Spur fan to circle-jerk so hard that the Tex-Mex-scented ejaculate can be smelled all the way in the basement.
:rollin
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 01:01 PM
Fpoonsie
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Of course, I bought into it. I thought the Lakers would fuck us sideways like no tomorrow. But after we swept them, I realized the obvious and that is we were just a damn good team and admitted I was wrong.
I didn't try and revise history, diminishing the Lakers, by saying stuff like "oh it was obvious we were gonna win due to blah blah blah losing streak in the regular season"
Obviously the Mavs are a damn good team. Great team. Excellent team. Tyson Chandler has put you guys on another level. There are (probably) zero teams in NBA history who would have been able to beat the Mavs in Game 4 against LAL. And they're going to give Miami fits, I have no doubt about it. It's going to be a hell of a series. I'm picking the Heat on almost a coin flip, mostly due to the fact that they both play great defense but Miami has a legitimate 2nd option to score. If Butler was still playing, I'd probably say Dallas in 7.
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 01:03 PM
Also, I'd like to see how many Spurs fans are actually rooting for Dallas in this series. I bet more are rooting for Dallas or at least it's relatively close to ~50%.
Brazil
05-26-2011, 01:14 PM
Also, I'd like to see how many Spurs fans are actually rooting for Dallas in this series. I bet more are rooting for Dallas or at least it's relatively close to ~50%.
I wish I could root for the mavs but I can't, thats fucking impossible, every game I'm watching with the mavs, I start the game rooting for them and in the fourth I switch for the opponents... crazy like the bermuda triangle.
Anyway they win the serie in 6
Fpoonsie
05-26-2011, 01:20 PM
Also, I'd like to see how many Spurs fans are actually rooting for Dallas in this series. I bet more are rooting for Dallas or at least it's relatively close to ~50%.
Ever since the end of our last title run we've been subjected to douchebag Laker fans gloating about back-to-back championships after the Gasol robbery. Before that we had to listen to idiot Mav fans in 2006, but their chokejob in the Finals eased the pain. If Dallas wins it this year this site will become unbearable with all the classless Mav trolls. That'll make it 3 straight seasons of our most hated teams winning it.
Anybody else going to take a long hiatus if the Mavs win?
Heat all the way
Want the heat to win because of all the lebron haters out there. It'll be hilarious.
I used to agree ^ but I realized Lebron will win a ring sooner or later. He is fairly young so chances are he will win multiple rings. Hopefully he won't win more than 3.
On the other hand this is pretty much Cuban's last chance. I rather see Cuban not win a ring than delay the inevitable.
I'm not. Dirk is the only likeable guy on the team I guess (Even though he looks like a douche when he makes that stupid face and fist pump thing when he makes a big shot). But I can't root for an idiot like Cuban and thugs like Terry, Stevenson, Chandler, Haywood, and Marion. So fuck the Mavs! Go Heat!
fuck dallas!
Heat= lesser of two evils.
Go Heat.
OKC blew it.
Mavs have never been a likable team. Imo the Heat's Big 3 and their team defense will be too much for the Mavs (and any other team) unless they foul Dirk like crazy.
Fuck the Heat and Fuck the Mavs... I'd rather see the Lakers then either of those two teams.
I"ll root for the heat because mainly I hate the media and would love to see them squirm once Lebron wins a title. I actually find it entertaining to watch Lebron and Wade. I dislike Cubes and Jason Terry so it would be nice to see them go bonkers against Miami. On the plus side if Lebron wins it all then the spurs will be the answer to a trivia question as the only team to ever sweep Lebron in the finals.
Let's Go Heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is Dallas the lesser of 2 evils? I don't remember the owner of the Heat insulting the city of San Antonio and I don't remember a Heat player punching one of our best players in the nards.
What kind of soft, yellow belly Spurs fans are y'all? I don't remember Mav fans cheering on the Spurs when they were out and the Spurs were still in the playoffs - in fact, a lot of my mav fan buddies were rooting against the Spurs (just like my rocket fan buddies.) Dirk's a respected player, but that doesn't trump Cuban, Terry and wife beater Kidd.
As great a player as Dirk is, I will never support the Mavs getting a ring as long as the people he's playing with include Jason Terry, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion, Tyson Chandler etc. etc. etc.
I have no problem with the Heat and honestly don't see why anybody outside of Cleveland would care or hate on him at all. He made the right decision to team up with other star players, which is clear from the fact that they are a hair away from the finals, and regardless of the presumptuous media prognostications. I would have done the same thing if I were LeBron — stuck in a dead end club with no real chance of getting a ring. You can't become a legendary player really unless you work hard to maneuver yourself into the position where you can make it happen.
I don't want Lebron to ring because he teamed up with Wade and Bosh to do it. I don't want the Mavs to ring because Terry is obnoxious enough without one. I am wanting OKC or Chicago to win it. It isn't looking to good for either of them though.
The only scenario that I would enjoy should it be Miami vs. Dallas, would be if the Mavs lose yet again to the Heat in the Finals. That would be hilarious. I am still rooting for OKC and Chicago though.
While lebron is a total douche, dallas is our rival not miami. So as always Fuck Dallas!
Fuck the Mavs. LA is the only possible series where I'd ever root for them.
I second that, watching all these pussy "spursfans" jumping on dirk's german shlong is rather sickening.
And that's just from one of many similar threads upstairs. The most amusing thing about a lot of the Mav hatred is that it's not just Terry and Cuban anymore (which is understandable), but SOMEhow, it's extended to "wife-beater Kidd", Chandler and Marion. Lulz. Wtf?
First it was Miami won't get past Boston, then Chicago and now Dallas base off the regular season series.:lol
Well it's either blind ignorance or just hate, but this is not same Heat team. Miami plays terrific D and while Dirk goes nuts they will shut down everyone else. As long as they keep the same ball movement they have going and guard the 3pt line, they'll be fine. I could see this going to 7 but I'm calling Miami in 6. Beating Miami's big 3 four times is just to much. Sorry Mav Crew sorry scros but we're temporary at war once it starts...
Heat in 6. Gut feeling and not much more. Dallas has a distinct size advantage but they won't have the undisputed best player on the floor anymore, unlike the first 3 rounds. Dirk may not even be the undisputed second best player on the floor if he goes a little cold after these incredibly dominant first three rounds and Wade and LeBron both find a way to get theirs.
Ghazi
05-26-2011, 01:40 PM
nobody said anything about the regular season, Ace..
Just be happy for him (Dirk) in June.. k? :)..
nobody said anything about the regular season, Ace..
Just be happy for him (Dirk) in June.. k? :)..
Son, if I'm wrong and Miami loses I wouldn't be mad at Dirk finally winning it. He deserves it, he has worked hard for it. However, Miami is not losing so sorry hope there's no hard feelings...
Fpoonsie
05-26-2011, 01:53 PM
He deserves it
:rolleyes
crc21209
05-26-2011, 02:19 PM
I like the Mavs chances a lot. I always look to see which team plays better in the clutch, especially when these 2 teams are pretty evenly matched.
Dallas has been great at closing all playoffs, while the Heat have been known to struggle in that area. I know beaner spurfan thinks it will be Miami in 4 because they don't know shit about basketball and they think Miami being big, black, and athletic is enough, but I don't see it that way tbh
:lol At all Spurs fans being beaner. Fucking idiot....
stretch
05-26-2011, 02:27 PM
all spurs fans are beaner
Bill_Brasky
05-26-2011, 02:54 PM
totally obvious the Lakers weren't as good as last year crofl tbh imho
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/Greenville/NBAso-calledexperts.png
OMG you mean ESPN analysts predicted the Lakers would win?? How shocking!!!
Before you go doubting my abilities, check this quote:
Mavs gonna sweep.
From this thread:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178847
:lmao me being the only one to predict the sweep, and now me predicting Heat in 5.
Josepatches_
05-26-2011, 03:02 PM
Heat in 6. Gut feeling and not much more. Dallas has a distinct size advantage but they won't have the undisputed best player on the floor anymore, unlike the first 3 rounds. Dirk may not even be the undisputed second best player on the floor if he goes a little cold after these incredibly dominant first three rounds and Wade and LeBron both find a way to get theirs.
True
Cry Havoc
05-26-2011, 03:12 PM
all spurs fans are beaner
http://i.imgur.com/U1d9u.jpg
Ditty
05-26-2011, 04:58 PM
Damn Mavs fans are all getting trolled by Cry Havoc.
Heat in 5
badfish22
05-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Damn Mavs fans are all getting trolled by Cry Havoc.
Thats what this thread looks like from the point of view of a retard?
Miami in 5
:lol considering you picked against the mavs in every series so far your opinion doesn't mean jack shit (lol OKC in 5)
crc21209
05-26-2011, 05:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/U1d9u.jpg
:lol Wow....
Brazil
05-26-2011, 05:26 PM
:lol Wow....
thats an old classic
JoeTait75
05-26-2011, 05:47 PM
Only a Mavs homer would think that the Lakers team this year is equal to the champions of the back to back titles.
And why wouldn't any "non-Mavs homer" think that? Because Dallas swept them. Had Dallas beaten them in seven competitive games everyone would be talking about what a remarkable accomplishment it was beating the back-to-back defending titlists.
To downgrade the impressiveness of the Laker sweep because it was a sweep is a hindsight argument. It in effect punishes the Mavericks for their own excellence.
As for the Finals...
Dallas has more good players than Miami. Miami has more great players than Dallas. Who comes out better in that equation?
Brazil
05-26-2011, 08:29 PM
And why wouldn't any "non-Mavs homer" think that? Because Dallas swept them. Had Dallas beaten them in seven competitive games everyone would be talking about what a remarkable accomplishment it was beating the back-to-back defending titlists.
To downgrade the impressiveness of the Laker sweep because it was a sweep is a hindsight argument. It in effect punishes the Mavericks for their own excellence.
As for the Finals...
Dallas has more good players than Miami. Miami has more great players than Dallas. Who comes out better in that equation?
well for the moment miami has one great player, wade is playing shitty bb so far against chicago
DAF86
05-26-2011, 08:59 PM
I'm tired of people saying "Dirk is playing the best ball of his career"... Dirk is ALWAYS like this in the playoffs... except for 2007, which is a fluke.
What Dirk is doing is standard... what the backcourt + Chandler/Marion has done is why this year is different from the 3 years past..
Why should we take your word on this when most of us have seen more or less the same games you did over the years? Plus there're stats that refute your point. Dirk has played great in the past and has had some monster series but he has never played as great and consistently as right now.
endrity
05-26-2011, 09:04 PM
Why should we take your word on this when most of us have seen more or less the same games you did over the years? Plus there're stats that refute your point. Dirk has played great in the past and has had some monster series but he has never played as great and consistently as right now.
Just check his Nuggets series from two years ago. They lost quite handily because even a still decent Howard sprained his ankle and the Mavs had no one else to back him up. But Dirk played an unbelievable series, amazing actually, against better defenders than anyone he's faced this year. Yet no one remembers that series.
Brazil
05-26-2011, 09:15 PM
i don't remember dirk dominating 3 series like he did this season
On the other news I maybe overestimate miami, they are playing shitty bb, not sure mavs will need 6 games
endrity
05-26-2011, 09:58 PM
i don't remember dirk dominating 3 series like he did this season
On the other news I maybe overestimate miami, they are playing shitty bb, not sure mavs will need 6 games
Well they haven't got a chance to play a lot of 3 series, but not due to his fault.
However, last time they did, in 06, Dirk was so amazingly good that our dear Bill Simmons declared him to be in the pantheon of greats and the most complete forward since Bird.
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:25 PM
Just check his Nuggets series from two years ago. They lost quite handily because even a still decent Howard sprained his ankle and the Mavs had no one else to back him up. But Dirk played an unbelievable series, amazing actually, against better defenders than anyone he's faced this year. Yet no one remembers that series.
Didn't I say he had monster series in the past? I'm just saying he hasn't played so good, so constantly before. His 46 FG% lifetime against 51 FG% now proves this.
DPG21920
05-26-2011, 10:26 PM
Brazil trolling :lol
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:27 PM
Well they haven't got a chance to play a lot of 3 series, but not due to his fault.
However, last time they did, in 06, Dirk was so amazingly good that our dear Bill Simmons declared him to be in the pantheon of greats and the most complete forward since Bird.
Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Lebron, Duncan, Garnett, Pippen?
Dirk is a great player, but "complete" isn't the first word that comes to my mind when I think of Nowitzki.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 10:28 PM
:lol manu > Dirk
badfish22
05-26-2011, 10:30 PM
:lol im sorry, but saying Manus prime> Dirks prime makes you invalid for any Dirk opinions.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 10:31 PM
But he really likes Dirk and has said so in the past! It's no surprise the guy is always spearheading these anti Dirk arguments.
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:33 PM
Could be just as good. And fwiw I didn't think Dirk's prime would begin at age 33 tbh, imho.
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:33 PM
But he really likes Dirk and has said so in the past! It's no surprise the guy is always spearheading these anti Dirk arguments.
Do you really think Dirk is the most complete forward since Bird?
Brazil
05-26-2011, 10:35 PM
Brazil trolling :lol
I'm not trolling just stating the obvious the mavs are the clear favorites of the finals. The heat is not a bb team, it's a one man show.
I can't imagine the mavs choking twice against Miami.
Hooks
05-26-2011, 10:37 PM
The Heat got this shit in 6, and I don't like either team either.
LA was overrated, POR wasn't a legit contender, OKC would've taken them out in 5-6 games if they weren't so mentally weak and if they didn't have guys like Westbrook trying to do too much. MIA has better defense than all those teams, better scoring, and they've got 2 unstoppable guys as well as a post scorer, plus they're experienced unlike OKC. If Harden was able to tear Terry a new asshole so will Wade. Then you have to factor in the amount of FT's they're going to rack up which will be a shit load.
IMO Dallas got really lucky this year.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 10:38 PM
I'd like to know how you reached that conclusion from what I said. But keep trying to act like this is the first great playoff performance from Dirk. Even the great Bill Simmons, who's never been a Dirk or Dallas fan, realizes how great Dirk's 06 playoff run was.
i MAke GOod POlls
05-26-2011, 10:39 PM
IMO Dallas got really lucky this year.
:lol Dallas had one of the toughest roads through the West that you could possibly have.
endrity
05-26-2011, 10:42 PM
Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Lebron, Duncan, Garnett, Pippen?
Dirk is a great player, but "complete" isn't the first word that comes to my mind when I think of Nowitzki.
actually I agree. But the point was that he did capture people's imagination a lot with that 06 run, especially after the 50 point game against Phx.
therefore he has been pretty good for a long time. And as I said, his Nuggets series was probably the best ever from him, comparing the big men they threw at him. So therefore NO, this isn't Dirk at some totally new level. He's been amazing for years.
erikuff
05-26-2011, 10:43 PM
I'm not trolling just stating the obvious the mavs are the clear favorites of the finals. The heat is not a bb team, it's a one man show.
I can't imagine the mavs choking twice against Miami.
Uhhhh, so what do the mavs do in the 4th quarter?
Brazil
05-26-2011, 10:45 PM
Uhhhh, so what do the mavs do in the 4th quarter?
they give the ball to dirk and GTFO of his way this is what they do
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:47 PM
I'd like to know how you reached that conclusion from what I said. But keep trying to act like this is the first great playoff performance from Dirk. Even the great Bill Simmons, who's never been a Dirk or Dallas fan, realizes how great Dirk's 06 playoff run was.
'cause you say I'm always "spearheading these anti Dirk arguments" but you don't look at the actual arguments, I could say Jordan > Dirk and you'd still call me a hater. I just call it how I see it, and not just on Dirk on every player in the NBA, the thing is that the Dirk's comments are more notorious 'cause I said something about Dirk and I have 5 mavsfans answering me, the same thing happens with Kobe, but when I say Rose is overrated nobody gives a fuck, so it goes unnoticed.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 10:50 PM
'cause you say I'm always "spearheading these anti Dirk arguments"
Well, you are.
I could say Jordan > Dirk and you'd still call me a hater.
Reaching.
I just call it how I see it.
:lol
Then why are you acting like this is the first time Dirk's had a great playoff run?
JoeTait75
05-26-2011, 10:50 PM
Could be the best Finals since the first Magic-Bird meeting in 1984, IMO.
DAF86
05-26-2011, 10:53 PM
Then why are you acting like this is the first time Dirk's had a great playoff run?
What part of the "he has been great in the past but not THIS great" didn't you understand?
Hooks
05-26-2011, 10:53 PM
:lol Dallas had one of the toughest roads through the West that you could possibly have.
OKC was the only legit team they played, and they got lucky against them because they were an inexperienced team that gave up monster leads due to poor execution, ball hogging, poor defense, and just being mentally weak. Just imagine if OKC was more experienced and didn't play like a bunch of young idiots, they'd have taken that series within 5-6 games max.
LA hasn't been good all season and continued their poor play in the playoffs, NOH with a healthy West probably would've won that series. You and others were overrating them just because they're the LA Lakers.
Portland was so good because Batum was on fire during the regular season, he was turning into a beast, knocking down shots from all over the floor with ease. Once the playoffs came it was back to reality for him, he was missing easy shots he made during the regular season, it had nothing to do with Dallas' defense either.
I just think MIA is much more different than these teams, more experience, better defense, 2 scoring options you can depend on an actual post scorer unlike OKC, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I think each game will be extremely close but imo MIA has enough to take it. And like I said earlier, there are going to be a shit load of calls going MIA's way.
endrity
05-26-2011, 10:55 PM
What part of the "he has been great in the past but not THIS great" didn't you understand?
He was better against the Nuggets. He's never going to replicate that series, and yet no one will ever remember it because they lost. As good as he is now, back then he was also rebounding like a mad man, smth which he only worries about occasionally now.
JoeTait75
05-26-2011, 10:55 PM
No such thing as luck in sports. The better teams win and the worse teams lose almost every time.
Oklahoma City gave Dallas opportunities but Dallas was good enough to take advantage of them. That's what good teams do.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 10:56 PM
What part of the "he has been great in the past but not THIS great" didn't you understand?
So what exactly makes it set in stone that this is easily his best playoff run?
endrity
05-26-2011, 10:56 PM
No such thing as luck in sports. The better teams win and the worse teams lose almost every time.
Oklahoma City gave Dallas opportunities but Dallas was good enough to take advantage of them. That's what good teams do.
Almost, but some time luck will play a part. 2006 is that case.
p.s luck=whistle
badfish22
05-26-2011, 10:58 PM
Could be just as good..
No. Only the most hardcore CoM members think that.
And fwiw I didn't think Dirk's prime would begin at age 33 tbh, imho.
:lol so thats why you're pushing that so hard. To save face.
DAF86
05-26-2011, 11:01 PM
So what exactly makes it set in stone that this is easily his best playoff run?
If he continues this in the finals (which I'm pretty sure he will) then without a doubt, Remember that he shot 39% in the finals in '06. As great as his previous series were that year, you have to take that in consideration.
And I'm not talking just about the playoffs, he was a beast in the regular season too, I think this was the second time in his career that he shot over 50% in a season. He's clearly playing "consistently" better than ever before imo.
Banzai
05-26-2011, 11:01 PM
OKC was the only legit team they played, and they got lucky against them because they were an inexperienced team that gave up monster leads due to poor execution, ball hogging, poor defense, and just being mentally weak. Just imagine if OKC was more experienced and didn't play like a bunch of young idiots, they'd have taken that series within 5-6 games max.
LA hasn't been good all season and continued their poor play in the playoffs, NOH with a healthy West probably would've won that series. You and others were overrating them just because they're the LA Lakers.
Portland was so good because Batum was on fire during the regular season, he was turning into a beast, knocking down shots from all over the floor with ease. Once the playoffs came it was back to reality for him, he was missing easy shots he made during the regular season, it had nothing to do with Dallas' defense either.
I just think MIA is much more different than these teams, more experience, better defense, 2 scoring options you can depend on an actual post scorer unlike OKC, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I think each game will be extremely close but imo MIA has enough to take it. And like I said earlier, there are going to be a shit load of calls going MIA's way.
true.
Brazil
05-26-2011, 11:01 PM
LA hasn't been good all season and continued their poor play in the playoffs, NOH with a healthy West probably would've won that series. You and others were overrating them just because they're the LA Lakers.
:lol easy to talk like that after
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 11:02 PM
Could be just as good.
http://rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/facepalm6.gif
DAF86
05-26-2011, 11:02 PM
He was better against the Nuggets. He's never going to replicate that series, and yet no one will ever remember it because they lost. As good as he is now, back then he was also rebounding like a mad man, smth which he only worries about occasionally now.
That's a series, I'm talking about playing that great during the whole season.
dirk4mvp
05-26-2011, 11:02 PM
If he continues this in the finals (which I'm pretty sure he will) then without a doubt, Remember that he shot 39% in the finals in '06. As great as his previous series were that year, you have to take that in consideration.
And I'm not talking just about the playoffs, he was a beast in the regular season too, I think this was the second time in his career that he shot over 50% in a season. He's clearly playing "consistently" better that ever before imo.
ok well keep moving goal posts and you'll be good to go.
Brazil
05-26-2011, 11:03 PM
If he continues this in the finals (which I'm pretty sure he will) then without a doubt, Remember that he shot 39% in the finals in '06. As great as his previous series were that year, you have to take that in consideration.
And I'm not talking just about the playoffs, he was a beast in the regular season too, I think this was the second time in his career that he shot over 50% in a season. He's clearly playing "consistently" better that ever before imo.
and if he continues to play like during the western conference finals, the heat will have to wait another year before seeing :lobt:
DAF86
05-26-2011, 11:04 PM
ok well keep moving goal posts and you'll be good to go.
I've been saying from the get go, you can look for the quotes, you're just not getting what I'm trying to say for some reason.
Axe Murderer
05-26-2011, 11:05 PM
lol Manu's prime = Dirk's prime
Sean Cagney
05-26-2011, 11:11 PM
lol Manu's prime = Dirk's prime
Spurs fan, Manu was mad clutch and a top 3 SG during their runs in 05 and 07, but he is not on Dirks level in his prime I admit! You talking TIM hell yeah, but Manu? NO he was not a #1 on the team but a very very good all star type player who had the knack to win and hit clutch shots.
TD 21
05-26-2011, 11:20 PM
There's a part of me that finds it difficult to imagine the Mavs cadre of veterans, who have been close but never gotten over the hump, allowing themselves to lose now, when they're close and may never get another chance. Then there's another part of me that says, professional sports aren't about storybook endings. It's not about "being the team of destiny"; it's about being the best team.
And I can't see how the Heat aren't the better team. They have the two best players and three of the top four, they're better defensively, on the glass and have, if not as much depth, more go-to options offensively. And for all the talk about the Mavs seeking redemption, so too is James and the Heat in general, after all the criticism they've taken.
So I'm going Heat in six. But if Wade's shoulder doesn't allow for him to be at 100%, then it's anybody's series.
siraulo23
05-26-2011, 11:26 PM
?
they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3.
I thought you were talking about Miami for a second there
oh wait... right
DAF86
05-26-2011, 11:31 PM
I think that if given the chance Manu during his prime could have been a number one guy in a winning NBA team (which is not the same as a championship team), and I think he proved that even beign past his prime he was able to lead the Spurs to pretty good records is some of these last couple of years, the thing is that he alwsy had Duncan in his teams and no matter who the guy was that was playing better or taking more responsabilities it was always gonna be "Duncan's team" look at the '08 season or the second half of last season. Are you telling me that a prime Ginobili wouldn't have been able to duplicate that? I don't care what you think I know that Manu's underrated.
But, to get back on track I agree with Brazil Mavs in 5 or 6. Many are saying is one star vs three. But it's actually a team with a star against a star and a half (Lebron beign the star with Wade beign the half star because of his injury and crappy play lately. I think Bosh will be a non factor) with a bunch of scrubs next to them, the only players that could make a difference (Miller and Haslem) are disminished. And I know Miami is a great defensive team, but I think that Dallas beign a jumpshooting team will play to its advantage.
Jacob1983
05-26-2011, 11:44 PM
The Mavs had an easy path to the Finals this year? You serious?
What about the Heat?
Brazil
05-27-2011, 07:38 AM
I thought you were talking about Miami for a second there
oh wait... right
yeah phily & boston certainly more difficult than portland & the two times defending champs.
mavs in 6
Shank
05-27-2011, 08:18 AM
So now we're going to pretend the West had lesser playoff competition than the East? Portland would have given the majority of the East a very difficult time. The Lakers were quite formidable after the All-Star break and were chosen by most to beat the Mavs, issues and all. OKC would have trucked Chicago even worse than the Heat did.
Bill_Brasky
05-27-2011, 08:57 AM
yeah phily & boston certainly more difficult than portland & the two times defending champs.
mavs in 6
Lol conveniently leaving out the bulls aka #1 defensive team in the league all year.
Shank
05-27-2011, 09:42 AM
Lol conveniently leaving out the bulls aka #1 defensive team in the league all year.
The Bulls' defense wasn't their problem.
TampaDude
05-27-2011, 09:44 AM
The Bulls' defense wasn't their problem.
^ this
Rose pulled a Kobe. :lol
Spurtacus
05-27-2011, 02:48 PM
Mavs in 5
Mavs are 7-1 at home. I think they take Game 1 at Miami and win the three home games in a row.
Brazil
05-27-2011, 04:32 PM
Lol conveniently leaving out the bulls aka #1 defensive team in the league all year.
I'm not leaving out the bulls my point was (in difficulty):
Portland >>>>> Phily
Lakers >> Boston
and I do agree
Chicago >> OKC even if both teams have the same issue not being capable to execute properly the last 6 minutes of a game. Untill the last 6 mn chicago is better, during the last chicago and okc are both trash.
Therefore Dallas opponents were more difficult to handle than Miami ones by the 2>1 logic.
Technique
05-27-2011, 06:05 PM
Joel Anthony tha beast gonna shut down Dirk, heat in 4
Brazil
05-27-2011, 08:26 PM
Joel Anthony tha beast gonna shut down Dirk, heat in 4
Not sure if serious
Spurs da champs
05-27-2011, 08:32 PM
Why everybody is acting like Miami will win this serie ?
Dallas swept the defending champs, they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3. Dirk is playing the best bb of his life and he is a clutch mofo, of all the POs teams mavs are the only ones to execute properly in the fourth when the game is on the line.
I'm sorry to say that but the Mavs are the favorites against Miami, they will win this serie in 6. If not I'd call that a choke job.
Miami has won 12 and lost 3 as well, & have you not seen Dwyane Wade and Bron in crunch time they've murdered the celtics & bulls.
And Bron is playing the best overall BB of his life & has been clutch, then add D wade that equals no chance for mavs. They'll expose dirk for what he is a glorified/great Stoudemire.
Bosh will dominate Dirk, book it.
bulletedge
05-28-2011, 09:13 AM
The Mavs have had a great playoff run- who can honestly say that they predicted a sweep of the Lakers? They finally seem to have developed some mental toughness in late game situations and appeared to have buried the ghosts of 2006 & 2007.
But, I think that those ghosts are going to come back and haunt them in the Finals. Look for the Mavs to struggle with foul trouble the entire series. Wade & Lebron will continually lower their heads and take it to the hoop and the Mavs will be buried by a steady parade of foul shots from Wade, Lebron and even Bosh. Mavs can't cover all three and at least one, if not two of them will have a good game every night.
Unfortunately, Heat in 5 or 6.
But it HAS been a great and unexpected run by the Mavs!
^ this
Rose pulled a Kobe. :lol
Nah, he pulled a Westbrook. Kobe actually had his selfishness rewarded with rings.
Giuseppe
05-28-2011, 09:17 AM
Kobe actually had his selfishness rewarded with rings.
:rolleyes
LkrFan
05-29-2011, 04:36 AM
Mavs bench better bring it if the Mavs are going to win it. Heat's bench sucks ass.
TampaDude
05-29-2011, 09:55 AM
Game 1: Heat
Game 2: Mavs
Game 3: Mavs
Game 4: Heat
Game 5: Mavs
Game 6: Mavs
Mavs in 6.
Brazil
05-29-2011, 03:31 PM
Between two teams solid like Miami and Dallas, there won't be blow out loss. All will be in line before the last 6 - 8 minutes. To win these crucial minutes you need 2 elements: proper execution and a player clutch capable to take over.
Regarding execution Dallas has the clear advantage, what Miami is doing is just let Lebron or Wade with the ball and watch them doing their stuff alone. With Dallas you have a team distributing the ball and capable to give the ball to Dirk in good conditions.
If Dirk keeps on playing like he did untill now thats a draw with Dirk and Lebron or Wade.
These last minutes are dallas property. If dallas doesn't choke the serie is over in 6.
Either people haven't watched any games of the Heat in these playoffs or just don't know shit about basketball. Heat in 6 haven't been wrong thus far. Heat have had the best defense in these playoffs by far and defense wins championships...
Ghazi
05-29-2011, 04:22 PM
Heat's defense didn't play any good offenses.
Mavs in 5
Just be happy for him (Dirk) in June.. k Ace? :)..
Isitjustme?
05-29-2011, 04:22 PM
Either people haven't watched any games of the Heat in these playoffs or just don't know shit about basketball. Heat in 6 haven't been wrong thus far. Heat have had the best defense in these playoffs by far and defense wins championships...
Retarded homers look great when their teams are in the Finals. Doesn't mean they know anything. I'll bet dallasbasketball.com is filled with retards who could be confused with experts atm.
redzero
05-29-2011, 04:28 PM
I'm siding with ChrisRichards and choosing the Heat to win 3-2.
Retarded homers look great when their teams are in the Finals. Doesn't mean they know anything. I'll bet dallasbasketball.com is filled with retards who could be confused with experts atm.
OP is actually a Spurs fan...
Brazil
05-29-2011, 04:34 PM
OP is actually a Spurs fan...
and by definition unbiaised regarding the outcome of this serie.
Isitjustme?
05-29-2011, 04:36 PM
OP is actually a Spurs fan...
I was talking about your post that I quoted. And you saying you haven't been wrong thus far.
Spurs rock
05-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Why everybody is acting like Miami will win this serie ?
Dallas swept the defending champs, they won 12 POs games so far and lost only 3. Dirk is playing the best bb of his life and he is a clutch mofo, of all the POs teams mavs are the only ones to execute properly in the fourth when the game is on the line.
I'm sorry to say that but the Mavs are the favorites against Miami, they will win this serie in 6. If not I'd call that a choke job.
The Lakers suck bro, no big accomplishment there....also the Miami Heat have won 12 Playoff games and only lost 3 aswell, and they beat the best team in the NBA(record wise) the Chicago Bulls in 5 game...Miami has impressed me much more than Dallas.
I was talking about your post that I quoted. And you saying you haven't been wrong thus far.
So calling each series spot on even games won and lost is luck? Either way you don't have to answer nobody cares what gnsf thinks...
Axe Murderer
05-29-2011, 05:55 PM
Retarded homers look great when their teams are in the Finals. Doesn't mean they know anything. I'll bet dallasbasketball.com is filled with retards who could be confused with experts atm.
+1000
When somebody is a fan of a team that's a heavy favorite, they're gonna pick their team in every series.
lakaluva and 21_Retards picked the Lakers to win every time. Most of the time they were right but it wasn't because of their extensive basketball knowledge. Lakers were just a damn good team
Brazil
06-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Heat won 1 game, bulls also won the first one by 15 pts or so. Mavs will take the second and the serie in 6
Stalin
06-01-2011, 12:17 PM
any non homer can tell that heat is just the better team, they shot 39% and still won handily, 2.5 > 1
cheguevara
06-01-2011, 12:17 PM
We should really examine the Mavs opponents to get an accurate idea of how they'll play against Miami.
Portland - Decent team but still trying to find it's identity.
Lakers - Yeah, about that. They were horrible in all aspects.
Thunder - Good team but hasn't formed a cohesive group to translate into defensive stops when necessary.
As it stands, Miami is likely going to be the best offensive and the best defensive team Dallas has played. After Dirk, you have a massive falloff to the #2 guy on the scoring totem pole, while Miami obviously has a trio of guys that can hurt you on any given night, and usually one of them is going off.
What should be really concerned for Dallas isn't stopping the Heat, it's the defensive matchups that the Heat are going to give them. Is Terry going to be able to do anything with Wade draped on him? How about LeBron guarding basically anyone on the Mavs including Dirk? He's long enough to give him fits, and as we've seen in past playoffs, strong guard/forward players who can force Dirk into uncomfortable shots give him difficulties. Bosh isn't going to stop Dirk by any means, but the Heat are also in the enviable position of just letting Nowitski have his 40+ points per night and shutting literally everyone else down on the team. With Butler healthy they'd be in a position to force mismatches, but I just don't see the Mavs having enough firepower against a good defensive team (and they haven't played one yet since the Lakers decided not to show up) to win 4 out of 7. I mean, come on, JJ Barea has been terrorizing teams in the playoffs. That should say all you need to know about the kind of defenses Dallas has played against in the first 3 rounds.
Now, flip it around. Who's going to guard James? How about Wade? Even if Bosh is only hot for one or two games out of the series, that's going to force Chandler or Dirk out of the lane to guard him and give Miami more penetration opportunities. And I somehow doubt that LeBron and Wade are going to have as much trouble with the Mavs interior as the teams out West they've played so far.
very good analysis. you should go work for ESPN or better, TNT.
Bill_Brasky
06-01-2011, 12:21 PM
If dallas goes zone again, I expect some wet ass jumpers from bosh.
Brazil
06-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Heat won 1 game, bulls also won the first one by 15 pts or so. Mavs will take the second and the serie in 6
clever boy
I think miami will steal one game in dallas but dallas will close that shit in game 6
resistanze
06-12-2011, 09:48 PM
Brazil
Brazil
06-13-2011, 02:17 PM
I called that shit a long time ago tbh, like dpg who was wrong bout the mavs i'm under appreciated fwiw
No choke = mavs in 6
a team will always be better than individualities, didn't need a BB Phd to figure out the winner of the serie
dallaskd
06-13-2011, 02:17 PM
how should i spend DPG's $500?
BlackSwordsMan
06-13-2011, 02:20 PM
buy a shotgun with a toe attachment
Brazil
06-13-2011, 02:21 PM
how should i spend DPG's $500?
ask findog according to him for 150$ you get a pretty decent blow job thats a start
badfish22
06-13-2011, 02:23 PM
I called that shit a long time ago tbh, like dpg who was wrong bout the mavs i'm under appreciated fwiw
No choke = mavs in 6
a team will always be better than individualities, didn't need a BB Phd to figure out the winner of the serie
As did I. My one prediction was right.
Brazil
06-13-2011, 02:54 PM
As did I. My one prediction was right.
dpg should offer us a statue
mavsfan1000
06-25-2011, 12:30 AM
Key to the series. Dallas had Marion and Stevenson to combat Lebron James. Stop Lebron James and Miami is in trouble. We still got Marion but hope Cuban can keep Stevenson as well just for this matchup. I'm going to enjoy going through this thread again. :)
Leetonidas
06-25-2011, 01:01 AM
how should i spend DPG's $500?
PM Ghazi I hear he can get you a great deal on handjobs
endrity
06-25-2011, 03:34 AM
Kudos to Brazil, he really called this!
TJastal
06-25-2011, 08:22 AM
Heat gonna win this shit in 5. They don't choke leads away like the thunder.
lol Brasky epic fail
:lmao
DallasFan
06-25-2011, 08:45 AM
clever boy
I think miami will steal one game in dallas but dallas will close that shit in game 6
WOW....:worthy:
Ashy Larry
06-25-2011, 08:48 AM
http://www.halfbaked.net/playoff_sig.png
lol @ incomplete
Brazil
06-25-2011, 09:19 AM
how should i spend DPG's $500?
so how did you spend DPG's $500 ?
sefant77
06-25-2011, 10:11 AM
any non homer can tell that heat is just the better team, they shot 39% and still won handily, 2.5 > 1
any non homer can tell that the Mavs would spank the Heat with Butler, Haywood and Roddy all healthy.
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