Lakers dropping on Dwight Howard's list of desired destinations

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/28/report-lakers-have-dropped-on-dwight-howards-list/

Report: Lakers have “dropped” on Dwight Howard’s list
Matt Moore May 28, 2011, 1:00 PM EDT
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First off, if you’re a Magic fan, stop reading this. You’re only going to get frustrated and angry that the big mean media is once again making up stories about Dwight Howard when he clearly wants to re-sign in Orlando. After all, he said he loves the city! And who says that and then leaves? So you should just stop and go check out StayDwight.com instead. You’ll be happier and I won’t have to feel like a heel for pushing material that clearly could not be more untrue to you which will only worry you. So long, Magic fans!

(They gone? Okay, back to reality.)

It really is possible Howard stays in Orlando, I wasn’t just making that up. The guy’s been there a long time, the Magic have always been aggressive in trying to build around him, and a possible franchise tag could lock him up against his will. But the noise out of Howard’s camp isn’t fabricated, despite what Magic fans may want to believe, and there’s enough of it to buy into the idea there’s something going on, especially when combined with what we know of his personality and branding, which, let’s be honest, portrays an image of a guy who wouldn’t marry the camera, but might give it a promise ring.

The big assumption has been that the Lakers with all their flashbulb opportunities would be where Howard lands, but ESPN’s Ric Bucher said in a chat Friday that doesn’t look like the case at the moment.

Lakers have slipped on Dwight’s list for reasons beyond (Bynum being “untouchable”). I’d rank his preferences in this order: Orlando, Dallas, NJ, Lakers. But for Orlando to keep him, they’re going to have to make some serious deals, ones that I’m really doubtful they can pull off.

via Chat: Chat with Ric Bucher – SportsNation – ESPN.

That second city on the list is going to raise some eyebrows. The Mavericks will have expiring contracts, young talent, draft picks (they’re one of the few teams who haven’t completely mortgaged their long-term prospects to improve), and a market big enough to contain Howard’s ego while putting him next to a Hall of Famer. Obviously how the Mavericks fair in the Finals might affect this decision but that’s an intriguing prospect. The Nets remain an option with Brooklyn on the horizon, despite their continual “Knick-ing” of themselves (defined as “removing all long-term prospects and assets in a fruitless pursuit of immediate and significant improvement”).

The hometown team is still first, just like Toronto and Cleveland were still first on the other’s lists. Dwight’s not either of those players, but he’s also experienced just as much frustration. Derrick Rose winning the MVP over him despite Howard’s very arguable superior season, in a landslide, has to make Howard wonder where the lack of respect is coming from and what role markets played into it.

Howard staying would be the best thing for everyone. He would have an opportunity to man up and be the guy for the franchise, Orlando wouldn’t lose yet another superstar to brighter lights of a bigger city, the tied would be stemmed on the mass migration of stars to the five top markets, and Otis Smith would still have a job. And it could happen.

It just doesn’t feel like it.

[benefactor]

Howard on the Mavs would be filthy.

[InRareForm]

Jaw drops at thought of Howard being on the Mavs

[Kamnik]

Nowitzki + Howard would really be beyond insane

[ChrisRichards]

Ric Bucher's journalism at it's finest.

Kobe Bryant will never wear another Lakers jersey. He will most likely be a Chicago Bull in a few days.
Bucher on Kobe's potential trade demand

My sources tell me that Lebron James will be a New York Knick next season
Bucher on where will Lebron end up in the offseason

Rose>Lebron
Bucher's opinion when it comes to Lebron's per for,ance Va Rose.


Ric Bucher ladies and gentleman.

[VBM]

Howard goes where $tern tells him to go, tbh

[badfish22]

"Lakers dropping on Dwight Howard's list of desired destinations"

Yeah, well, the Skunker will do that do ya.

[Red Hawk #21]

Everyone can see how good the Mavs are with Dirk + Chandler. Now, imagine Dirk + Dwight :wow :wow

[Axe Murderer]

I don't think this will work tbh

Howard wouldn't make a good second banana. I would rather have a guy like Nazr Mohammed, guys who have proven to take a backseat in order to win championships. It's a pretty close comparison as is, but when you factor "classiness" into the equation it's a no brainer. Give me Nazr any day.

[DPG21920]

Well nice in theory, but this draft is weak and the Mavs don't have any real young talent.

[Ghazi]

Well nice in theory, but this draft is weak and the Mavs don't have any real young talent.

Roddy says hi

:smokin WRONG BOUT DEM MAVS (again)..

[Venti Quattro]

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[Isitjustme?]

Howard goes where $tern tells him to go, tbh

Kill yourself.

[VBM]

:lol

[DPG21920]

Ya, that's not what's considered young talent with regard to trading for a Howard. Mavs don't have the young talent to appeal to anyone. If they are willing to eat Gil's & Hedo's contracts, then maybe. But their young talent isn't getting anything done.

[DMC]

Dwight either stays in Orlando or ends up in NJ. I don't see him going to Dallas or LA, mainly because he thinks their window has closed in LA and Dallas is all about Dirk. I don't see Howard being second fiddle.

[dirk4mvp]

Not that it's ever gonna happen, but Dirk would be fine with taking Dwight being the man, especially after he wins a ring this year :)

[DPG21920]

Ya, I don't think the second fiddle argument is valid with Dallas it's just that they don't have any young talent.

[jjktkk]

Dwight either stays in Orlando or ends up in NJ. I don't see him going to Dallas or LA, mainly because he thinks their window has closed in LA and Dallas is all about Dirk. I don't see Howard being second fiddle.

Howard to NJ makes sense. Prokhorov is itching to get a star and has the $$$$ to do so.

[Isitjustme?]

Could he sign with them in 2012? Whats Dallas cap space like.

[badfish22]

It's a pipe dream but Dirk/Dwight just would not be fair.

[DPG21920]

No. Dallas is strapped.

[Darthkiller]

Howard to NJ makes sense. Prokhorov is itching to get a star and has the $$$$ to do so.

except for the fact that NJ has alreayd traded all their picks to utah.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I wanna resign Tyson and Butler this offseason.....Howard isn't on my mind tbh.
Plus...Bucher is the worst ESPN analyst going....dude is a straight retarded nigga.

[DPG21920]

Draft picks carry less weight especially this year. Young talent and the ability to absorb bad contracts are more important IMO.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Non-issue.

It's only a matter of time till Dwight Howard is a Laker.

These are things we know.

[DPG21920]

That's no where near enough. Look at what Denver got for Melo. It will take just as much. Because of the lack of young talent it will likely take Dallas eating both arenas & Hedos contracts.

[ChrisRichards]

Mavs have no asset other than Beaubois kid and TC. this is a pipe dream

[jjktkk]

Non-issue.

It's only a matter of time till Dwight Howard is a Laker.

These are things we hope for.

fify

[DeadlyDynasty]

fify

His only other possible destination is New York. If you think he's going anywhere other than NY or LA, you're lying to yourself.

[DeadlyDynasty]

i wouldn't mind both of their contracts, why keep the books open to build for the future whenever you have dwight and dirk right now? you milk that shit for as many rings as you can, and worry about the future later with an opportunity like that imo.

I don't think you realize just how bad Hedo and Arenas's contracts are. Couple that with the uncertainity of a lockout/new CBA and it's a big problem.

[DeadlyDynasty]

we'd be too over the cap to sign anyone anyway, right? what does it matter..whether the cap is at 45 mil or whatever it is now, a lot of contracts are going to have to run out at the same time before we can sign anybody. might as well win a couple of rings then wait until their shitty contracts are up.

It certanly matters to Cubes, bro. If it didn't then there'd have been no reason for Dirk to take a paycut. The NBA's in a volatile state right now, and mortgaging the future for just the "chance" to win a couple more rings is economically unsound.

[monosylab1k]

That's no where near enough. Look at what Denver got for Melo. It will take just as much.

:lmao

I give Donnie Nelson as much grief as anyone, but take your Mavs hatred glasses off and give it a rest if you think the Mavs FO is anywhere near as retarded as New York's.

[monosylab1k]

btw this is typical "big name free agent feigns interest in Dallas/Cuban's money in order to get the attention of the teams he really wants to go to"

[TampaDude]

Howard will stay in Orlando. They'll offer him a max contract.

[DPG21920]

:lmao

I give Donnie Nelson as much grief as anyone, but take your Mavs hatred glasses off and give it a rest if you think the Mavs FO is anywhere near as retarded as New York's.

What? What Mavs hatred? It wasn't retarded for NY to give up
What they did. It's just what it will take. Mavs front office signing Dampier and Haywood isn't a ringing endorsement either.

It will take more talent than the Mavs have.

[monosylab1k]

It wasn't retarded for NY to give up
What they did.

Oh it fucking was when it was guaranteed he was leaving for NY in the offseason anyways.

As we've seen time and again, the player ultimately dictates all the action. If Dwight Howard wants to be in Dallas, he'll be here, and Orlando will have to swallow that shit sandwich whole. Dallas won't have to sell the farm to get him either, unless they're stupid.

But Dwight doesn't want to go to Dallas anyways so this discussion is pointless.

[Frenzy]

Yeah then tyson complains about min and heads to san Antonio to spite Cuban and becomes another finely. :lol

[monosylab1k]

Oh there's no way Tyson is a part of the team if Dwight is brought aboard.

But Dwight isn't interested in Dallas, so it's okay.

[DPG21920]

yes it was, they could have saved themselves the first round exit and just waited until the offseason to sign melo, keeping all those other players and using them as trade bait for dwight

The players they gave up are solid, but nothing Melo can't make up. It was a good trade for both teams IMO and for it to make sense for a team to actually trade a great player vs just getting cap space you have to make it worth their while.

[DPG21920]

Oh it fucking was when it was guaranteed he was leaving for NY in the offseason anyways.

As we've seen time and again, the player ultimately dictates all the action. If Dwight Howard wants to be in Dallas, he'll be here, and Orlando will have to swallow that shit sandwich whole. Dallas won't have to sell the farm to get him either, unless they're stupid.

But Dwight doesn't want to go to Dallas anyways so this discussion is pointless.

No, the players don't have all the control. If Dwight wants to come to the Mavs he has to do it via trade. This isn't a Lebron scenario where he held all the power because unlike Dwight, Lebron could have signed as a FA where he wanted to go.

[TD 21]

That's no where near enough. Look at what Denver got for Melo. It will take just as much. Because of the lack of young talent it will likely take Dallas eating both arenas & Hedos contracts.

Obviously, the Mavs don't have nearly enough young talent for a player the caliber of Howard. I'd be surprised if he really wanted to go their. They're the oldest team in the league. Sure, Cuban is willing to spend big annually, but they're not the Lakers (and I'm not just talking about their inability to win championships). They're not assured of something magically saving them when they inevitably fall off.

If there isn't a one time amnesty in the new CBA that allows the Magic to eat Arenas' contract: Howard and Arenas for Chandler, Kidd, Terry, Beaubois, Brewer and two 1st round picks.

If there is a one time amnesty in the new CBA that allows the Magic to eat Arenas' contract: Howard and Turkoglu for Chandler, Terry, Beaubois, Brewer and two 1st round picks.

Neither deal would be appealing for the Magic. This would have to be an Anthony type situation, where Howard makes it clear he'll only play for the Mavs (or at least pretends he will) and forces the Magic's hand. Short of that, there's no chance the Mavs pull this off.

[crc21209]

well nice in theory, but this draft is weak and the mavs don't have any real young talent.

+1.

[Axe Murderer]

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[Ghazi]

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[Axe Murderer]

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[mavsfan1000]

Fuck Dwight Howard. That bandwagon pos should go to the Heat. Hate players like him.

[HornetLoveJones]

lmao at Bynum aka Mr Glass Knees being "untouchable"

[BanditHiro]

Fuck Dwight Howard. That bandwagon pos should go to the Heat. Hate players like him.

you'll hate him up until he joins the bulls am i right?

[Killakobe81]

LOL lost me at Bynum "untouchable" ...

[Killakobe81]

lmao at Bynum aka Mr Glass Knees being "untouchable"

sorry, you beat me 2 it ...