Fedor VS. Hendo July 30th on Showtime

[shyne]

Scheduled for July 30th on Showtime. I'm really looking forward to this fight, two of my favorite fighters of all time that do things the right way. I'm going to go with Fedor just because I can't see him losing three in a row.

[dbreiden83080]

Great legends fight..

Fedor will win..

[ace3g]

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Strikeforce, M-1 Global & Rockstar Present: Fedor vs. Henderson is scheduled to take place on July 30 at the Sears Centre Arena in Chicago, IL. Tickets go on sale this week.

[UPDATED CARD: 6/29/11)

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

[CubanSucks]

:wow WOOOOOOOWWWW

this one's for the 'all time fights' thread. Of course it's not nearly as appealing as if it would happen a few years ago but still! Hendo is one of my top three favorite fighters but I really don't wanna see Fedor lose three in a row. Don't know who the fuck to root for!

[ace3g]

Cavalcante and St. Preux not fighting at "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson" http://bit.ly/kttGiy

disappointed, really wanted to see this fight, OSP has a bright future

[ace3g]

Scott Smith vs. Tarec Saffiedine Added to Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson Card http://ht.ly/5gVa7 #MMA #Strikeforce

Paul Daley vs. "Cyborg" Santos slated for "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson" http://mmajunkie.com/news/23973/paul-daley-vs-cyborg-santos-slated-for-strikeforce-fedor-vs-henderson.mma

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Paul Daley vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos*
Roger Gracie vs. Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal
Scott Smith vs. Tarec Saffiedine

[Cessation]

I'm the biggest fedor fan, but he has sunk low to be fighting past their prime middle weights. Guess, a win is a win.

[ace3g]

Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler added to July's "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson" http://bit.ly/lQ7wqZ

[ace3g]

Injury to 'Cyborg' Santos forces him out of Paul Daley Bout. Could Tyron Woodley step in? aol.it/ixKuRK

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/06/24/injury-to-cyborg-santos-forces-him-out-of-paul-daley-bout/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter

[ace3g]

“King Mo” Lawal’s Return Rescheduled for September, Roger Gracie Injured http://bit.ly/k0q3g1 #strikeforce #mma

another fight I was looking forward, damn injuries

Roger Gracie vs. "King Mo" rescheduled for Sept. 10 Strikeforce event http://bit.ly/ksaH7h



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ok this fight better happen

Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley targeted for "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson" http://bit.ly/jK7qya

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MAIN CARD (Showtime)

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

PRELIMINARY CARD

Gesias Cavalcante vs. Bobby Green
Eduardo Pamplona vs. Tyler Stinson
Alexis Davis vs. Julie Kedzie
Derek Brunson vs. Lumumba Sayers
Bryan Humes vs. Gabriel Salinas-Jones

[strosFan2]

Beerbohm Out, Bobby Green In Against Gesias Cavalcante on July 30th http://sbn.to/r7LEUr

[dbreiden83080]

Like to see Hendo get another fight or 2 in the UFC at some point. The way his UFC career ended was not right.. It was largely his fault as he left the UFC for a little more money but way less exposure and worse fights.. His decision looks pointless now as SF is now Zuffa owned.. :lol

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MAIN CARD (Showtime)

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley

Gesias Cavalcante vs. Bobby Green

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

double. even though it wasnt and i waited. double

[polandprzem]

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)
Champ Marloes Coenen vs.Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

[ace3g]

Weigh Ins just finished a few minutes ago:

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"Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson" weigh-in results: Champ Dan Henderson (207) vs. Fedor Emelianenko (223)

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[strosFan2]

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko
Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate
Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler
Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

[polandprzem]

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[ace3g]

The "true" Main Event
http://a.yfrog.com/img741/9922/zzrxe.jpg

[dbreiden83080]

Champ Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko (heavyweight non-title fight)

If Fedor has something left he'll win this fight.. He is not gonna have to toss around a huge body like Rogers or Silva in this fight.. His skill level can shine again here without a 250 pd monster on top of him.. Hendo is tough as shit and a legend but i'll take Fedor by decision. Knocking Hendo out is seemingly out of the question but you never know??


Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate (for women's welterweight title)
I'll take the good looking chick..

Tim Kennedy vs. Robbie Lawler

Paul Daley vs. Tyron Woodley
Daley is a fuckin moron.. Go away already..

Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith

[shyne]

I'm interested to see if Woodley has improved his stand up.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

nice avvy, shyne

[tlongII]

Anybody got a streaming link for this?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

haha fedor you bout to get knocked out son

[ace3g]

Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith up first; I had a tough decision with this prediction, but hopefully Smith can get back on track with a KO.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

lets go smith

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Tarec Saffiedine vs. Scott Smith up first; I had a tough decision with this prediction, but hopefully Smith can get back on track with a KO.

i couldnt decide on this one so i took one off the prelims instead

[ace3g]

So far 2 leg kicks landed by the sponge, now a head kick, then another head kick, Smith gets Saff up against the cage but Saff turns it around. Saff pushes off Smith lands a good combo, then goes for that switch kick he is famous for.

[ace3g]

spinning back kick by Saff right before the bell

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

saffie got that round

[ace3g]

Saff does a great job of switching stances

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Saff does a great job of switching stances

he does i was just about to comment on that
smith in trouble

[ace3g]

Smith just got dazed but almost lulled Saff into a punch

[tlongII]

Anybody got a streaming link for this?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i dont, im watching showtime

[ace3g]

Smith gets rocked again with another head kick, now holding onto Saffs leg attempting take down, Saff now gets the back of Smith

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

smith looks like little bitch out there. i dont know if i buy what the commentators are selling

[dbreiden83080]

Smith has almost no skills.. What is he even doing in MMA?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

the saffernator dominating rnd 2

[ace3g]

I love that switch kick by Saff

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

that delayed head kick was sick. paging laker hater...paging laker hater

[dbreiden83080]

haha fedor you bout to get knocked out son

If he does his chin is gone.. Hendo hits hard but Fedor if he's right should win the striking..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

finish this fool saffy

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

haha switch to a straight left. i love this guy. and he attacked a spinning "something" by smith earlier

[dbreiden83080]

Smith about to be out of a job..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

domination. i like this scaffy guy

[dbreiden83080]

LOL Smith trying to mount an offense witrh 30 seconds left.. Where was that 10 min ago??

[ace3g]

Well figured that would happen, but that pick had more to do with strategy then who I actually thought was going to win

[dbreiden83080]

Anybody got a streaming link for this?

Sopcast should have it..

[ace3g]

LOL Smith trying to mount an offense witrh 30 seconds left.. Where was that 10 min ago??

I agree, I hate when fighters do that

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

LOL Smith trying to mount an offense witrh 30 seconds left.. Where was that 10 min ago??

yeah, that made me lol too

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

these ladies comin up will put on a better fight than smith,tbh

[ace3g]

Saff definitely needs to be in the SF WW Title picture now

[dbreiden83080]

King Mo sitting there.. That guy blows.. Calls out the big dogs and loses to puppies..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

lmao cung lee aka rampage

[dbreiden83080]

Come one Woodley.. Send Daley to the unemployment line..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Come one Woodley.. Send Daley to the unemployment line..

i was about to go quote you from earlier and ask you if he's a punk er what ?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

banned by ufc?
missed weight 25 times?!

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

lets go punk

[ace3g]

here we go

[dbreiden83080]

We need big John back in the UFC

The refs suck

[ace3g]

Daley with the low blow

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

this f'n commentator.
"a shot to a peninsula south of the equator"

[ace3g]

Woodley landing some good body punches against the cage

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

tough round to call

[dbreiden83080]

Boringgggggggggggggg

[ace3g]

Woodley finally gets a TD

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

shitty fights by SF so far

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

oh thanks jon for that 18 seconds

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

finish him!!

[ace3g]

odd scramble there, but Woodley ends up on top

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i wonder who gets the win, the pussy or the punk

[dbreiden83080]

i wonder who gets the win, the pussy or the punk

pussy

30-27

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

pussy

30-27

lol i think youre right

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

lmao that lady

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

open your eyes guy

[ace3g]

Woodley still needs to work on his striking

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

we can change picks right?
i wanna change the babe fight pick to Champ Marloes Coenen vs. Miesha Tate

[ace3g]

love it, Kennedy going with the generic black shorts because of this: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/7/20/2285350/strikeforces-tim-kennedy-to-wear-blank-fight-shorts-ranger-up-ufc

[ace3g]

Anyone know when Kennedy joined Team Jackson?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

settin up for a good fight. like 2 animals in there

[ace3g]

Kennedy bleeding badly, can't tell from where

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Kennedy bleeding badly, can't tell from where

cant wait to see the replay of that uppercut by robbie

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

whys everybody scared to fight tonight on SF? wtf

[ace3g]

Kennedy ends with TD and some GnP

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i wonder if that last knee stomp by tim connected good

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

nice

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

somebody get a BAC on tim STAT

[ace3g]

Ladies up next

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

miesha bout to get destroyed lol

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

the crowd was lovin the 69

[ace3g]

Coenen has hooks locked in, looking for RNC

[dbreiden83080]

I can't take 5 rds of this

Get Hendo and Fedor out here

[ace3g]

looks like Tate will survive

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

I can't take 5 rds of this

Get Hendo and Fedor out here

i could watch miesha's butt for more than 5 rnds

[dbreiden83080]

i could watch miesha's butt for more than 5 rnds

My buzz is wearing off and i'm getting bored.. :lol

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

My buzz is wearing off and i'm getting bored.. :lol

yeah tonight has been kinda boring so far.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

tate's ponytails are jacked up

[ace3g]

Rd 3 to Tate

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

that was fucking awesome

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

fucking awesome

[LakerHater]

Holy shit, Tate!!!!!!!

[ace3g]

woo

[dbreiden83080]

4-0

Lets go Fedor........

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

:lmao the champ

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

she backed her shit up. good job

[ace3g]

lol Coker, couldn't get the belt around her waist

[dbreiden83080]

This stupid ass tourney is pointless now.. The champ was removed so who the fuck cares????

[ace3g]

now time for Fedor to get back on track!!!!

[dbreiden83080]

now time for Fedor to get back on track!!!!

Feel pretty good he will. Without a 250 pd monster on top of him, his skill should come back...

[ace3g]

Feel pretty good he will. Without a 250 pd monster on top of him, his skill should come back...

Yeah, I kind of wished they could have reached an agreement for this fight to be at LHW and be for the the title...

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

shamrock loooooooves that camera

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

such bullshit. hendo is the champ but all they do is say his name
fatass comes out and he gets all kinda BS spewing from the mic

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

here we go

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

good shot by hendo

[ace3g]

Wooo!!!

[LakerHater]

BAd Ass start!

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

fedor s busted already!

[ace3g]

good start

[ace3g]

back in the middle of the cage

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

fuck yeah

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

boss

[LakerHater]

Big uppercut by Fedor!!

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

goodnight fatass

[ace3g]

Fedor needs to wear some longer shorts, keeps re adjusting them

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

that was legendary

[ace3g]

Wtf!!!

[LakerHater]

wtf!??

[ace3g]

wow

[ace3g]

really,

[ace3g]

how are you going to call that fight

[ace3g]

I'm pissed , not the way I wanted that fight to end, I'm out

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

all it took was one little pop to end this "icon"

[dbreiden83080]

Not a fan of that stoppage

[ace3g]

Fedor's legacy is still secure in my book

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

2 time olympic champ baby. a real icon

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor was pushing off as Dean was stopping the fight.. Complete crap..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

he was asleep before he hit the matt lmao that was so awesome

[ace3g]

So 2 hits to the back of the head = stoppage?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Fedor was pushing off as Dean was stopping the fight.. Complete crap..

he was asleep

[dbreiden83080]

he was asleep

What? Pushing off while asleep...

[LakerHater]

Not a fan of that stoppage
A-fuckin-greed!

[ace3g]

Fedor slipped and went to the ground prior to any of those hits, Dean thought Fedor was KO, stupid stupid way to end this crappy fight card

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor never should have followed him to the ground..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

if the fight isnt stopped then fedors career is no doubt over tonight

[ace3g]

oh and HighLowLobForBig-50 we get it you hate the Hype Fedor obviously deserves

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

dan woulda smashed his face to a pulp

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

oh and HighLowLobForBig-50 we get it you hate the Hype Fedor obviously deserves

he used to deserve it. he OBVIOUSLY hasnt deserved it in awhile now

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i really think the difference was that fedor had no idea that shot would be coming from thru his legs like that

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

herb dean finally did something right lol

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

What? Pushing off while asleep...

you saw that last replay right?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

hendo actually rolled fedor back over to GNP. if he doesnt fedor just continues, face down on that matt

[BlackSwordsMan]

god if he exist doesn't give a fuck whether you fight or not
give it up bitch you're done

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

oh and i forgot fedor had never been knocked out. that just makes it 10x sweeter

[Sense]

premature stoppage tbh...


Fedor was still alive..

[Mr Dio]

he used to deserve it. he OBVIOUSLY hasnt deserved it in awhile now

Been saying that for yrs. :toast

Hated seeing him do circus freak fights but, also hated how people who didn't follow MMA just saw him put up a 'W' in those freak fights & said he was crushing the comp & blah blah blah.

The last 3 fights have shown him for what he is.

[dbreiden83080]

you saw that last replay right?

Yeah he was hurt but not out.. Let Fedor go out on his shield.. These are 2 of the most durable and toughest fighters to ever fight in any promotion.. Let it go..

Doesn't matter but i didn't like it.

[dbreiden83080]

Been saying that for yrs. :toast

Hated seeing him do circus freak fights but, also hated how people who didn't follow MMA just saw him put up a 'W' in those freak fights & said he was crushing the comp & blah blah blah.

The last 3 fights have shown him for what he is.

I know who you are referring too.. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Somewhere MMA Fight Club God-Father Leonard is crying or saluting his idol Fedor.. We miss ya Leonard.. Fedor has had better days..

[Mr Dio]

He was out cold, went limp & fell forward into the human tripod position, palms up. Hendo woke him back up with more punches. All 3 announcers ringside said he got up him looked like & wobbled like a 'drunken monkey'

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

premature stoppage tbh...


Fedor was still alive..

not tryin to be rude but youre in denial. anyone that has seen the replay knows he was asleep and dan rolled him over

[dbreiden83080]

He was out cold, went limp & fell forward into the human tripod position, palms up. Hendo woke him back up with more punches. All 3 announcers ringside said he got up him looked like & wobbled like a 'drunken monkey'

Shamrock is too busy getting his braces tightened to know what's up.. I hate that clown..

[Sense]

Whether that was it for Fedor or not... it still should've continued for about a minute or so.. it was early whether you like to admit it or not.


Replay this or replay that, it doesn't matter.. Fedor WASN'T out cold, and the ref should've waited til he was.

bunch of bs tbh

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor will kick himself when he watches the fight tape.. If he was more measured and used his reach, Hendo was gonna be in trouble.. First time he hurt Hendo he went crazy following him to the ground and got caught again..

[Sense]

not tryin to be rude but youre in denial. anyone that has seen the replay knows he was asleep and dan rolled him over

Fedor is one of the most humble fighters EVER... for him to say it was early, I kind of believe it, I wasn't rooting for Fedor either, I was hoping for a great fight... and the ref stopped it early.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Shamrock is too busy getting his braces tightened to know what's up.. I hate that clown..

i waited on him and his family when i lived in CA. he's garbage

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Fedor is one of the most humble fighters EVER... for him to say it was early, I kind of believe it, I wasn't rooting for Fedor either, I was hoping for a great fight... and the ref stopped it early.

well if thats the way you see it :toast

[Mr Dio]

Somewhere MMA Fight Club God-Father Leonard is crying or saluting his idol Fedor.. We miss ya Leonard.. Fedor has had better days..

:rollin I tried telling the guy, if Fakedor ever fought top comp it would be over...I tried...

Yeah, Fedor was, WAS, a living legend & the top of the heap before.
I would like to know if anyone SERIOUSLY here thinks Fedor could beat Cain/JDS or, even Brock?? I hate Brock BTW, but don't see Fedor winning.
I would bet that JBJones would beat Fedor, the guy is that dynamic.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

:rollin I tried telling the guy, if Fakedor ever fought top comp it would be over...I tried...

Yeah, Fedor was, WAS, a living legend & the top of the heap before.
I would like to know if anyone SERIOUSLY here thinks Fedor could beat Cain/JDS or, even Brock?? I hate Brock BTW, but don't see Fedor winning.
I would bet that JBJones would beat Fedor, the guy is that dynamic.

surely youre talking prime fedor vs jbjones and not this current edition of fedor cause thats not funny

[dbreiden83080]

:rollin I tried telling the guy, if Fakedor ever fought top comp it would be over...I tried...

Yeah, Fedor was, WAS, a living legend & the top of the heap before.
I would like to know if anyone SERIOUSLY here thinks Fedor could beat Cain/JDS or, even Brock?? I hate Brock BTW, but don't see Fedor winning.
I would bet that JBJones would beat Fedor, the guy is that dynamic.

Fedor had a fantastic career in Pride when the sport was not as evolved as it is now.. At his best i think he beats anyone who fought in the UFC in that same era.. Prime Randy and Fedor for example in a ring would have been all Fedor, but in a cage all Randy thanks to the clinch.. Fedor had the skill to beat anyone of that era.. But not this era..

[dbreiden83080]

surely youre talking prime fedor vs jbjones and not this current edition of fedor cause thats not funny

Fedor is probably the best fighter of his era... That era is gone but he was the best.. Or close to it..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

funny how nobody is talking about the champ and victor dan henderson. fedor still finds a way to soak up all the hype

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Fedor is probably the best fighter of his era... That era is gone but he was the best.. Or close to it..

what does that have to do with my quote though :lol

[dbreiden83080]

funny how nobody is talking about the champ and victor dan henderson. fedor still finds a way to soak up all the hype

Hendo is the new Randy.. 40 with no signs of slowing down.. He will be back in the UFC soon IMO.. Never should have left..

[dbreiden83080]

what does that have to do with my quote though :lol

It's called putting things in perspective..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Hendo is the new Randy.. 40 with no signs of slowing down.. He will be back in the UFC soon IMO.. Never should have left..

i wish he would retire on top

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

It's called putting things in perspective..

thats what i was trying to do . if he was talking a prime fedor vs bones thats one thing. could go either way, prob to fedor. but if he was talking about the fedor we saw tonight vs bones, well thats not funny cause fedor would get seriously injured :lol

[dbreiden83080]

i wish he would retire on top

He won't retire for years.. He's still too tough.. Hendo will always hit like a truck, have good wrestling and a chin of iron..

Put him in a rematch with Bisping and he knocks his girly ass out again..

[dbreiden83080]

thats what i was trying to do . if he was talking a prime fedor vs bones thats one thing. could go either way, prob to fedor. but if he was talking about the fedor we saw tonight vs bones, well thats not funny cause fedor would get seriously injured :lol

He's not in his prime anymore and he was always a bit over-rated..

In his era if there is a top 5 he is 1 or 2 i would say..

Fedor
Wandy
Cro-Cop
Nog
Chuck

Something like that..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

He won't retire for years.. He's still too tough.. Hendo will always hit like a truck, have good wrestling and a chin of iron..

Put him in a rematch with Bisping and he knocks his girly ass out again..

well he did his job tonight, so best of luck to him :toast

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

He's not in his prime anymore and he was always a bit over-rated..

In his era if there is a top 5 he is 1 or 2 i would say..

Fedor
Wandy
Cro-Cop
Nog
Chuck

Something like that..

still not sure what youre talking aboot. but i can tell you 100 % i am aware that fedor is not in his prime anymore

[dbreiden83080]

still not sure what youre talking aboot.

:rolleyes

[shyne]

I still cant believe henderson lost to pussy ass Jake Shields.

[dbreiden83080]

I still cant believe henderson lost to pussy ass Jake Shields.

Got grapple-fucked

It happens..

[shyne]

If Fedor would just calm down when he strikes he would have won tonight, and beat werdum.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

I still cant believe henderson lost to pussy ass Jake Shields.

i still cant believe miesha pulled that choke on the champ

[dbreiden83080]

If Fedor would just calm down when he strikes he would have won tonight, and beat werdum.

He should have won this fight... He hits so hard and had the reach.. He got wild and fought stupid..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

If Fedor would just calm down when he strikes he would have won tonight, and beat werdum.

if hendo isnt such a badass wrestler and grabs that leg, fedor finishes dan tonight

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

he was seriously in a bad spot

[dbreiden83080]

if hendo isnt such a badass wrestler and grabs that leg, fedor finishes dan tonight

Hendo's wrestling is not that great.. Good but not great..

[dbreiden83080]

shields took him down at will

Hendo has always been a brawler with power and a rock chin

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Hendo's wrestling is not that great.. Good but not great..

2 time olympic champs tend to have great wrestling

[shyne]

Hes been to wild lately and its cost him.

[dbreiden83080]

2 time olympic champs tend to have great wrestling

MMA wrestling not great


Watch Page/Hendo
Shields/Hendo...

[dbreiden83080]

2 time olympic champs tend to have great wrestling

Rampage was like the 10th best wrestler at his high school and he took Hendo down when he wanted too..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

well either way, my point was if hendo's wrestling isnt as-bad-ass-as-it-is then fedor would have dominated the position they were in and finished dan and the fight

[shyne]

Fedor needs to watch tape on Cain Velaquez, that Brock fight is textbook how he just picked him apart so technically. I know Fedor isnt Cain but if he would just relax and not overpunch Dan wouldnt have escaped and it would have been over, especially with Herb Dean blowing his whistle like he was calling a foul agaisnt Dirk Nowitski.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Fedor needs to watch tape on Cain Velaquez, that Brock fight is textbook how he just picked him apart so technically. I know Fedor isnt Cain but if he would just relax and not overpunch Dan wouldnt have escaped and it would have been over, especially with Herb Dean blowing his whistle like he was calling a foul agaisnt Dirk Nowitski.

that last part made me laugh. you really think fedor will fight again?

[dbreiden83080]

well either way, my point was if hendo's wrestling isnt as-bad-ass-as-it-is then fedor would have dominated the position they were in and finished dan and the fight

Fedor was punch happy and lost position looking for a big shot..

Hendo has great Greco Roman which means in the clinch he is a monster.. However unlike Randy he was never great at double legging other wrestlers or stopping their double legs... Tito in his prime was one of the best Double leg GNP guys ever and Randy stopped him cold... Tito shuts Hendo down with wrestling and GNP just like Shields did.. Rashad and Jones also kick the shit out of Hendo

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Fedor was punch happy and lost position looking for a big shot..

Hendo has great Greco Roman which means in the clinch he is a monster.. However unlike Randy he was never great at double legging other wrestlers or stopping their double legs... Tito in his prime was one of the best Double leg GNP guys ever and Randy stopped him cold... Tito shuts Hendo down with wrestling and GNP just like Shields did.. Rashad and Jones also kick the shit out of Hendo

again, youre failing to see my point and dropping mma knowledge on us which i like and appreciate. i am saying go look at the replay and find the move that won hendo the fight tonight. im not speaking to mma history at all. im talking only about the last 8 seconds of tonights main event

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

again, youre failing to see my point and dropping mma knowledge on us which i like and appreciate. i am saying go look at the replay and find the move that won hendo the fight tonight. im not speaking to mma history at all. im talking only about the last 8 seconds of tonights main event

the move that won hendo the fight (and loses him the fight if he doesnt execute it) was the single leg he grabbed to get back on top(or close to it)

[dbreiden83080]

again, youre failing to see my point and dropping mma knowledge on us which i like and appreciate. i am saying go look at the replay and find the move that won hendo the fight tonight. im not speaking to mma history at all. im talking only about the last 8 seconds of tonights main event

I didn't like the stoppage.. Hendo is a legend just like Fedor but didn't like the stoppage.. Not sayin Fedor wins but i would have liked to see it go on..

[dbreiden83080]

Among like 5 people we got this thread to over 200 replies... :lol

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

I didn't like the stoppage.. Hendo is a legend just like Fedor but didn't like the stoppage.. Not sayin Fedor wins but i would have liked to see it go on..

if hendo doesnt grab his leg, fedor keeps the dominant position and i dont think it would have gone on any longer. fedor fans seriously need to watch some replays

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Among like 5 people we got this thread to over 200 replies... :lol

thats a long thread for an overall lackluster card

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

if hendo doesnt grab his leg, fedor keeps the dominant position and i dont think it would have gone on any longer. fedor fans seriously need to watch some replays

and what im saying is that fedor was just about to beat the shit outta dan and end the fight

[dbreiden83080]

if hendo doesnt grab his leg, fedor keeps the dominant position and i dont think it would have gone on any longer. fedor fans seriously need to watch some replays

It doesn't matter it's over.. I think Fedor will fight one more time at least.. He still has great skills.. If you can hurt Hendo on the feet you still got serious game..

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

It doesn't matter it's over.. I think Fedor will fight one more time at least.. He still has great skills.. If you can hurt Hendo on the feet you still got serious game..

who would you put fedor up against next? if it was your league

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

BTW WEC is on VS right now

[dbreiden83080]

who would you put fedor up against next? if it was your league


Gegard Mousassi

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Gegard Mousassi

:wakeup googling

[dbreiden83080]

Gegard Mousassi

I'd say maybe King mo but Gracie will sub his dumb ass...

[shyne]

Fedor vs Mir

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

dutch armenian kickboxer that is buddies with fedor

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor vs Mir

No

he needs to fight guys his size.. Hell Fedor could make 85 if he wanted too..

[shyne]

give him Tito then.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

No

he needs to fight guys his size.. Hell Fedor could make 85 if he wanted too..

lets not forget dan was smaller tonight

[Rip-Hamilton32]

I believe Sonnon was on to something saying Pride was rigged their stars came to the States and just got destroyed

[Sokoudjou]

this shit made me miss Pride. :(

[Sokoudjou]

I believe Sonnon was on to something saying Pride was rigged their stars came to the States and just got destroyed


thats bullshit lol. by the time most pride fighters came to the states they were on the back end of their career. Pride was the shit man

Hendo, Wandy, Barnett, Rampage, Mach, Ninja, Arona, Nog, Sakuraba, Gomi, Diaz, Fedor, Shogun, Cro Cop, Anderson, Misaki, Fujita, Igor, Randleman....

That roster they had was amazing, best cards of all time. pride was so violent, by the time all those guys folded over to the ufc they were 33+ in age for the most part and had been knocking each other out for so many years

[polandprzem]

Fedor is Fedor

he always had exciting fights and he always comes to fight, not execute gameplans like GSP.
In fact he is an opposite GSP and that means he is not a modern mma competitor.
This sport has evolved and Fedor styed on the same level. In 5 years or so he has not changed his game. He exposing himself to finish his opponent as fast as possible.

Some people can say that Hendo is older and his game is still top notch. Yup but hendo is evolving with the sport as many sportsmen do.

It's like in a discussion about NBA and history of players and when I say that Pettit or Mikan would dominate in this NBA ppl tend not to agree with me. IMO the talent is there but the environment and possibilities are different. Thats why this NBA players are better then the Pettis and Mikans from 50s 60s.
Then they say so why the guys that have been in NBA for more then 10 yrs are still on top of NBA?
\I say - because they evolved with the game. The game is different and players as well.

Fedor is still Fedor and mma is not way way way more different game then it was 5-10 yrs ago. It's just sick how all has changed.


It's said to look at the guy who brought me to this sport- made me a fan of the sport, not being able to win.

And he does not want to cut weight because he is not familiar with it. He is a MW and he refuses to take advantage of cutting weight. The must do in todays mma.

Still exciting style of fighting but when I see he come with his punch and exposing his head I just shake my head. Against Hendo is not a good way to fight. He was always faster and had fantastic pace, that's why he killed his opponents. Now I see him not being comfortable with the cage. He didn't knew what to do when pushed against it ...

he said he is not watching mma. And I said after his loss to Werdum - it's not good.

But he does not care. He wants to go out and fight his fight. He will fight under top10 guys and all the fricking M-1 cashiers will be happy because name Fedor will bring the money. Even if he would fight Kimbo it would bring many fans.

Ohh well, herb stopped the fight to early but he saw Fedor not moving and he panicked.

Fedor is past his prime in age he should still be on top.
You've got to deal with it.


peace

[The TroutBum]

Fedor vs Mir

Oh fuck yes. Weight would be a major issue for Fedor, but since when has that stopped him? I would give my left nut to see this fight.

Also, FWIW, HighLowLob has really lost what little credibility he had in my eyes. It's one thing to be a fan of someone and to hate on someone else, but seriously, shut the fuck up. The reason this thread is over 200 posts is because 150 of them are you saying the same contrived bullshit over and over. We get it, you're stupid.

Shut the fuck up.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, ill get right on that trout

[The TroutBum]

Thanks.

- The Board

[ace3g]

arielhelwani Ariel Helwani
Dana just said Fedor's Strikeforce days have to come to an end.

BREAKING: Fedor Emelianenko Released by Strikeforce Following Third Loss in a Row http://bit.ly/q5jH8c #fedor #ufc @danawhite @Strikeforce

[dbreiden83080]

arielhelwani Ariel Helwani
Dana just said Fedor's Strikeforce days have to come to an end.

BREAKING: Fedor Emelianenko Released by Strikeforce Following Third Loss in a Row http://bit.ly/q5jH8c #fedor #ufc @danawhite @Strikeforce

Come on... Really Dana Really??


Dana is such an ass-hole..

[dallaskd]

arielhelwani Ariel Helwani
Dana just said Fedor's Strikeforce days have to come to an end.

BREAKING: Fedor Emelianenko Released by Strikeforce Following Third Loss in a Row http://bit.ly/q5jH8c #fedor #ufc @danawhite @Strikeforce


this move allows him to fold strikeforce into UFC whenever he wants. Fedor will probably retire. I dont know many Jap leagues that would spring any interest. Either he fights in KSW, MFC or retires

[dbreiden83080]

He retires but it's a forced retirement.. Dana didn't even let him think about it for a month like Fedor said he was going to.. Fedor and Zuffa will never speak again..

[ace3g]

This is exactly one of the reasons why if Fedor was going to lose against Hendo, I wanted it to be a FOTN type fight; even if Fedor was on a winning streak there was probably little chance he would have been moved to the UFC.

A fighter of his skill level deserved better.

[dbreiden83080]

The personal junk that went on with Fedor's team and Dana was so nasty and longstanding. Dana tried to sign him for like 4 years and it was just one public fight after another.. He used to refer to Fedor's manager as a crazy Russian.. I guess i should not be surprised.. Dana went as far as telling Tap-out they would be banned forever in the UFC if they didn't tear up their proposed T-Shirt deal with Fedor.. In Dana's world if you don't fight for the UFC you ain't shit.. So while Fedor's legacy would make it seem you can't ever cut him, in Dana's world he was just an over-paid over-rated piece of shit..


Good Riddance...

For the sake of MMA history this should not have happened..

[ace3g]

Dana White hints Strikeforce champ Dan Henderson could soon return to UFC's ranks http://bit.ly/qrypYH

[dbreiden83080]

Zuffa is just running out the old deals.. Hendo's is up at SF and he'll be back to his old UFC deal soon..

[polandprzem]

Well that is a revenge at it's purest for dana White kicking out Fedor.

he got opportunity and he took advantage of it.

Itr might be a shame but fedor is going nowhere. His game is the same and if it still at the same level he is gonna make more and more mistakes in fights.

2 or 3 yrs ago I said that UFC does not need Fedor. Fedor needed UFC more.


Now I wonder if this cut will shock Fedor and force him to prove he is still top fighter or he just let it go.
IMO Dana still thinks Fedor would bring some money but he wants it on his rules, something the crazy rusians would not let to happen ...

[polandprzem]

http://www.heavy.com/mma/mma-videos/ufc-videos/2011/08/dana-white-talks-fedor-golden-glory-ufc-133-and-more/

[polandprzem]

this move allows him to fold strikeforce into UFC whenever he wants. Fedor will probably retire. I dont know many Jap leagues that would spring any interest. Either he fights in KSW, MFC or retires

I don't think KSW has enough money to pay Fedor even though it would be a quick sellout I don't think tahy can pull this out. Esp. when you also have to find a worthy opponent for the legend

[ace3g]

Some more quotes from Dana about Hendo possibly returning to the UFC: http://mmajunkie.com/news/24723/could-dan-henderson-be-on-his-way-back-to-the-ufc-fatso-needs-to-talk-to-ugly.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+%28MMAjunkie.com+Fe ed%29

He mentions Machida looking for a fight; I wouldn't mind seeing Hendo vs Machida; IMO Henderson shouldn't get a title fight right away entering the UFC.

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor to keep fighting

Fedor "The Last Emperor" Emelianenko doesn't want to go out with a loss.

Emelianenko, recently shed from Zuffa's roster after suffering his third consecutive defeat, will fight again, management company M-1 Global announced Monday. Officials hope to hold the bout in Moscow or St. Petersburg in the fall, M-1 said.

"We consulted with Fedor and it was decided that he should not leave the sport in this way," said Vadim Finkelstein, M-1 Global president. "His friends and past opponents support Fedor in continuing his career and he agreed."

An opponent will be determined later, Finkelstein said.


After years as the consensus No. 1 heavyweight in mixed martial arts, Emelianenko has seen his fortunes spiral downward in Strikeforce since his last win, in November 2009. He mulled retirement after Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva defeated him in February, but decided to return for a July 30 fight with the much smaller Dan Henderson.

Strikeforce released Emelianenko after Henderson knocked him out. But Emelianenko has a contract with the Showtime network, which also carries M-1 events.

M-1 also hopes to feature Emelianenko on a Dec. 31 card in Japan. New Year's Eve traditionally is the biggest night of the year for the Japanese MMA industry.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mma/post/2011/08/m-1-global-fedor-to-keep-fighting/414250/1

[ace3g]

Take this for what it's worth, considering it is coming from Dana himself

Fedor was Offered ‘Millions and Millions’ to Fight in the UFC


Remember the meeting held a couple of years ago between UFC president Dana White and former Pride champion Fedor Emelianenko and his management team from M-1 Global?

For the first time, White disclosed at least the ballpark figure that the UFC offered Emelianenko to come fight for their promotion when speaking to Dan Le Batard on his radio show in Miami.

The meeting went down after Zuffa purchased Pride, while Emelianenko was still universally ranked as the No. 1 heavyweight in the sport.

White flew out to an island to meet with the Russian and his team of representatives including M-1 Global leader Vadim Finkelstein.

“We went in there and negotiated, gave them a great offer to come in and fight in the UFC, and they turned it down. I said ‘let me tell you, you’re one punch away from being worth zero’ and I was wrong, he was one triangle choke away from being worth zero,” said White.

Following that time, Emelianenko opted to fight for Strikeforce in a series of co-promoted shows along with M-1 Global.

In Strikeforce, Emelianenko went 1-3, losing his last three fights in a row, most recently a TKO defeat to current light heavyweight champion Dan Henderson.

Following the defeat, Zuffa opted to not feature Emelianenko on any further Strikeforce cards, and White believes that revisionist history would see a much different result if they sat down in that room one more time.

“He’s lost three in a row now after the last offer we made him, and I guarantee you they lay in bed every night wishing they could go back,” White stated.

So just how much did Emelianenko leave on the table in that meeting?

Former M-1 Global employee Jerry Millen, who isn’t on the good side of his former employer or White, told MMAWeekly.com, “It was huge, huge money, and nobody is talking about how much money it was because Dana doesn’t want his guys to know what they offered Fedor to fight. You can’t say you’ve offered a figher $4 million to $5 million to fight because of his fighters found out they would would freak out.”

White didn’t get into specific numbers, and did not substantiate any claims of $4 million to $5 million dollars per fight, but did indicate the amount was substantial; probably more than any one fighter has been offered from day one to compete in the UFC.

“More than he’s ever made in his entire career, and more than he will ever see in the rest of his life. I’ll say this, and I haven’t said this anywhere else, millions and millions of dollars,” White confirmed.

Fedor’s representatives turned the offer down flat, wanting more concessions for M-1 Global on top of Fedor’s salary.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but in this particular case it appears White got his money’s worth out of Fedor Emelianenko… even though he never signed him.



http://mmaweekly.com/fedor-was-offered-millions-and-millions-to-fight-in-the-ufc

[dbreiden83080]

The sense i got is he was basically offered what Brock gets in terms of a base and if his PPV was huge than he might have made 4-5 mil a fight... GSP is rumored to be right there as well if his PPV is huge.. He supposedly made over 4 mil for UFC 100.. Something like 2.50 per ppv buy.. They said no because of that stupid co-promotion with M-1.. Fedor's dumb ass MGR wanted to piggy back his brand on UFC shows and The UFC rightfully told him to stuff it..

Fedor let his team dictate too much for his own career..

[ace3g]

Jeff Monson Announces He is Facing Fedor Emelianenko at M-1 Global on Nov 12 in Russia http://ht.ly/6njc2 #MMA #Fedor

Fedor can get back on the win track and then decide what to do with his career...

[polandprzem]

The ancient world of mma has just fallen !


I think I really meant when I said that Fedor should give up after Werdum loss ...
Or at least after Silva

If he did not wanted to improve his game in a way he was suppose to ... It's over for a sportsmen in mma of today

[Prime1]

The sense i got is he was basically offered what Brock gets in terms of a base and if his PPV was huge than he might have made 4-5 mil a fight... GSP is rumored to be right there as well if his PPV is huge.. He supposedly made over 4 mil for UFC 100.. Something like 2.50 per ppv buy.. They said no because of that stupid co-promotion with M-1.. Fedor's dumb ass MGR wanted to piggy back his brand on UFC shows and The UFC rightfully told him to stuff it..

Fedor let his team dictate too much for his own career..

Fedor never for a second cared about super-rich. Not what he was about at all.

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor never for a second cared about super-rich. Not what he was about at all.

He cared too much about what his management thought and wanted..