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symple19
05-30-2011, 03:32 PM
Article from Schlabach

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6592488

Narutoluva
05-30-2011, 10:05 PM
cool

The Gemini Method
05-31-2011, 04:40 PM
USC is on the rise to a no-bowl season again!!!

symple19
05-31-2011, 05:09 PM
I was surprised that he put UT at a 4, like he did A&M and Okie St. I understand the horns had a down year last year, but there's no way they shouldn't still be a 5

jjktkk
05-31-2011, 05:44 PM
I was surprised that he put UT at a 4, like he did A&M and Okie St. I understand the horns had a down year last year, but there's no way they shouldn't still be a 5

No proven QB.

jjktkk's wife
05-31-2011, 05:45 PM
No proven QB.

Do you mind sleeping on the couch tonight? I've got company coming over later

Blake
05-31-2011, 06:40 PM
I was surprised that he put UT at a 4, like he did A&M and Okie St. I understand the horns had a down year last year, but there's no way they shouldn't still be a 5

Okie St and A&M should be 3s.

symple19
05-31-2011, 06:51 PM
I also thought it was curious to put Miami and Tennessee at 2's.

He cries about the Canes facilities, but those guys just need a good coach and it will get turned around

Tennessee still has a lot of talent and I think they're going to be back. LK really left a mess behind him, but their facilities are as good as it gets, so they'll be back too.

symple19
05-31-2011, 06:51 PM
^ neither of those two programs are devoid of talent

symple19
05-31-2011, 06:51 PM
No proven QB.

Bama doesn't have one either

symple19
05-31-2011, 06:51 PM
Neither does VT

Thompson
05-31-2011, 11:25 PM
Okie St and A&M should be 3s.

Don't be ridiculous. We're a top-10 team in a lot of polls, and we're primed to have a great year for the first time in a decade. We're also doing very well in our recruiting at the moment, and if we have a very good season success can snowball quickly. Your bitterness is clouding your judgment.

Blake
06-01-2011, 08:58 AM
Don't be ridiculous. We're a top-10 team in a lot of polls, and we're primed to have a great year for the first time in a decade. We're also doing very well in our recruiting at the moment, and if we have a very good season success can snowball quickly. Your bitterness is clouding your judgment.

Do you think a&m has recruited better than tech?

Lol aggie homer

tlongII
06-01-2011, 09:33 AM
Oregon State at 3 is about right. I think we could be a 4, but I'm okay with the perception that we do more with less resources.

Thompson
06-01-2011, 11:16 AM
Do you think a&m has recruited better than tech?

Lol aggie homer

I'm assuming you're impressed with Tech's recruiting relative to A&M based on the 2011 Rivals class. That's kind of a small sample size, especially considering that was an atypically 'bad' recruiting class for us. If one year impresses you that much, I think I can safely guarantee that we'll far outstrip Tech in 2012 recruiting (we already beat Tech head-to-head for Trey Williams).

It's not outlandish to predict that A&M could finish in the top 10 this year; you're either bitter or not too bright (or some combination of the two).

Blake
06-01-2011, 11:34 AM
I'm assuming you're impressed with Tech's recruiting relative to A&M based on the 2011 Rivals class. That's kind of a small sample size, especially considering that was an atypically 'bad' recruiting class for us. If one year impresses you that much, I think I can safely guarantee that we'll far outstrip Tech in 2012 recruiting (we already beat Tech head-to-head for Trey Williams).

It's not outlandish to predict that A&M could finish in the top 10 this year; you're either bitter or not too bright (or some combination of the two).

You're either butthurt-illiterate and can't read the article, butthurt-ignorant and didn't read the article or just butthurt-stupid.

Thompson
06-01-2011, 12:32 PM
'4: Potential to join the sport's elite in the near future.'

So consistently increasing win totals every year, potentially starting/finishing in the top 10 this year, along with progressively stronger recruiting for A&M (not even factoring in the bump they'd likely get in recruiting from finishing in the top 10) is still not enough to say they have the 'potential' to join the elite?

My gosh you're an idiot.

Blake
06-01-2011, 01:15 PM
'4: Potential to join the sport's elite in the near future.'

So consistently increasing win totals every year, potentially starting/finishing in the top 10 this year, along with progressively stronger recruiting for A&M (not even factoring in the bump they'd likely get in recruiting from finishing in the top 10) is still not enough to say they have the 'potential' to join the elite?

My gosh you're an idiot.

lol elite

3: Recent mediocre results but seems to be building momentum

lol butthurt aggie homer

Thompson
06-01-2011, 02:03 PM
lol elite

3: Recent mediocre results but seems to be building momentum

lol butthurt aggie homer

Bump this in a year. We'll see who's butthurt.

tlongII
06-01-2011, 02:46 PM
God I LOVE college football! :lol

Blake
06-01-2011, 05:12 PM
Bump this in a year. We'll see who's butthurt.

Bump this in a year and it will still be you butthurt over me calling A&M a 3.

butthurt moron. :lmao

The Gemini Method
06-01-2011, 06:02 PM
So with the soon coming apocalypse and downfall of the Buckeyes now in motion, who is gonna win the Big 11 er + 1 er -1 er whatever that conference is called now?

tlongII
06-01-2011, 06:51 PM
So with the soon coming apocalypse and downfall of the Buckeyes now in motion, who is gonna win the Big 11 er + 1 er -1 er whatever that conference is called now?

I think Nebraska will take it. Wisky should be pretty good too.

The Gemini Method
06-01-2011, 07:08 PM
I think Nebraska will take it. Wisky should be pretty good too.

Nebraska should be solid. I don't know if they have will be able to handle the difference between playing just one good team (i.e. Texas or Oklahoma) as opposed to playing good teams like Whisky or MSU. Gonna be good to see the conference have some hope now that Tressel got tatt'd up and fed to the lions.

Thompson
06-01-2011, 07:51 PM
Bump this in a year and it will still be you butthurt over me calling A&M a 3.

butthurt moron. :lmao

You're bitching about how A&M should be a 3 because you're bitter that we're now on the ascendant track Tech appeared to be on a few years ago, before you returned to mediocrity.

Your bitterness has clouded your judgment. We're likely starting and finishing the season as a top-10 team; our recruiting has benefited enormously already from our success last year (success we are likely to top this year). Any objective person would have little problem saying a team with those factors could 'potentially join the elite,' especially when combined with the resources and rabid support of the 7th-largest university in the nation.

Also, your 2011 statistical anomaly notwithstanding, A&M will likely bring in classes superior to Tech for the foreseeable future.

Care to dispute on the merits, or does your Tech education exclusively provide you with name-calling as a retort?

symple19
06-01-2011, 08:26 PM
God I LOVE college football! :lol

this :tu

symple19
06-01-2011, 08:30 PM
I think A&M is a legit 4, not so much Okie St. TT should def be a 3, but Tuberville, if given time, will eventually raise TT to a 4, based on the criteria (IMO)

Basically, you guys should both feel good that your schools are in the ascendancy.

ThePop
06-01-2011, 11:11 PM
We're likely finishing the season as a top-10 team;

lol

Thompson
06-02-2011, 01:10 AM
lol

We'll have 10 returning starters on offense and 8 on defense.

Our offense will include Tannehill, Fuller, Swope, Nwachukwu, Gray, and Michael. We may even use Manziel at receiver in some situations, as he mentioned he might take the 'Tannehill' route to the quarterback position.


Lets just say [Manziel's] a Vince Young style QB. Just look up his stats last week vs Madison. I was there......amazing

The only problem on him, like someone already said, is that he's kinda short for a College QB. He is also a very good WR(UT actually wanted to offer him for WR, but he only wants to play QB)

Our defense is in its second year under DeRuyter and should be more fully integrated into his system.

Our schedule is favorable. The hardest game will be in Norman; the others are very winnable.

SMU
Idaho
Oklahoma State
Arkansas (in Dallas)
at Texas Tech
Baylor
at Iowa State
Missouri
at Oklahoma
at Kansas State
Kansas
Texas

ThePop
06-02-2011, 08:46 AM
There's no doubt the potential is there, but this is A&M we're talking about. One good season and all of a sudden aggies are national title contenders? That's a bit premature in my opinion. (i know you didn't say that but that's the general consensus among aggie football fans).

I look forward to seeing what happens, and maybe proven wrong.

rjv
06-02-2011, 08:55 AM
i'm not sure a&m has done enough yet to merit a 4. they are certainly improving and poised to have a break out season but i'm not sold yet on an almost elite status.

also, not sure texas has tanked enough yet to be a non-elite. i can only think the 4 rating is based on a low expectation for the horns this upcoming season.

if there was a .5 i'd say texas would be a 4.5, a&m a 3.5, tech a 3 and baylor a 2.5.

rjv
06-02-2011, 08:59 AM
manziel was a 3 star recruit based on size but he's a bit taller than chase daniels and just about an inch shorter than mccoy and brees so he can definitely play college QB. the problem is he will be facing stiff competition in the upcoming years as a&m is starting to get some nice recruits for that position.

what sherman is really having great success with is his offensive line. he is really building one stout line and that is a huge start to having success on the offensive side of the ball.

coyotes_geek
06-02-2011, 09:56 AM
if there was a .5 i'd say texas would be a 4.5, a&m a 3.5, tech a 3 and baylor a 2.5.

Agreed.

Blake
06-02-2011, 10:16 AM
You're bitching about how A&M should be a 3 because you're bitter that we're now on the ascendant track Tech appeared to be on a few years ago, before you returned to mediocrity.

I'm not bitching about anything. I simply said A&M should be a 3 according to this scale.

You're the one acting like a huge pussy because I called A&M a 3.


Your bitterness has clouded your judgment. We're likely starting and finishing the season as a top-10 team; our recruiting has benefited enormously already from our success last year (success we are likely to top this year). Any objective person would have little problem saying a team with those factors could 'potentially join the elite,' especially when combined with the resources and rabid support of the 7th-largest university in the nation.

You yourself said that this year's recruiting class was bad.

Elite teams don't have bad recruiting years.


Also, your 2011 statistical anomaly notwithstanding, A&M will likely bring in classes superior to Tech for the foreseeable future.

Care to dispute on the merits, or does your Tech education exclusively provide you with name-calling as a retort?

A&M has historically had better recruiting classes and the 2012 looks great so far. Still doesn't explain 2011's mediocre class.

What's hilarious is that I heard all about A&M resources, support, alumni and superiority all last decade while Tech bent the Aggies over year in and year out and shoved giant rolled up tortillas up their whoopin asses.

What a douche.

Blake
06-02-2011, 10:29 AM
i'm not sure a&m has done enough yet to merit a 4. they are certainly improving and poised to have a break out season but i'm not sold yet on an almost elite status.

also, not sure texas has tanked enough yet to be a non-elite. i can only think the 4 rating is based on a low expectation for the horns this upcoming season.

That.

I think A&M has had the right talent in the right spots at the right time to have good seasons last year and this coming year.

I think Sherman is a mediocre coach and hasn't proven anything to me on any level that he is better than mediocre.

Maybe he gets them to elite status, but I wouldn't bet on it.


if there was a .5 i'd say texas would be a 4.5, a&m a 3.5, tech a 3 and baylor a 2.5.

Can't disagree much there.

I'd go further though on the scale though.

OU 5.0, UT 4.6, A&M 3.4, Tech 3.3, Baylor 2.8

I would put Okie St at a solid 4 if they had been able to keep Leach protege Dana Hologerson, but I think it's a big enough loss to knock them back to a 3.5.

rjv
06-02-2011, 11:25 AM
That.

I think A&M has had the right talent in the right spots at the right time to have good seasons last year and this coming year.

I think Sherman is a mediocre coach and hasn't proven anything to me on any level that he is better than mediocre.

Maybe he gets them to elite status, but I wouldn't bet on it.




the jury is still out on sherman. he has been recruiting better as of late (this past year notwithstanding) and he has really addressed a few glaring deficiencies which were out of control when fran was in charge. one, the offensive line is much, much better. two, he has much better assistant coaches and finally, he's trying to bring back speed to the program, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

what i am still concerned about is not his x's and o's but his feel for the game during the game. does he know how to make adjustments ? does he know when to stick with the run or the pass, the blitz or a certain coverage? this past season he showed glimpses of that so we'll see early if that continues with back to back games with okie state, arkansas and tech.

Thompson
06-02-2011, 12:23 PM
You yourself said that this year's recruiting class was bad.

Elite teams don't have bad recruiting years.


Reading comprehension fail.

'4: potential to join the sport's elite in the near future.'

This year's recruiting class is based on A&M's level of success prior to this past year; we haven't had a good team in a decade (though we did thrash Tech in Lubbock Leach's final year when everyone was predicting a blowout in Tech's favor).

No one said A&M is an elite team now. Look up 'potential' and 'future' in a dictionary; it might clear things up for you.


What's hilarious is that I heard all about A&M resources, support, alumni and superiority all last decade while Tech bent the Aggies over year in and year out and shoved giant rolled up tortillas up their whoopin asses.


Yeah, oddly enough those things aren't as helpful with recruiting when the team just doesn't win. They're much more useful when you can combine them with success; they can amplify your recruiting ability in the right circumstances. Now that we seem to be leaving the vicious cycle of bad season > poor recruits > bad season that Fran had us locked into, we have the potential to move into the better version (success > great recruits > more success).

Blake
06-02-2011, 01:58 PM
Reading comprehension fail.

'4: potential to join the sport's elite in the near future.'

This year's recruiting class is based on A&M's level of success prior to this past year; we haven't had a good team in a decade (though we did thrash Tech in Lubbock Leach's final year when everyone was predicting a blowout in Tech's favor).

No one said A&M is an elite team now. Look up 'potential' and 'future' in a dictionary; it might clear things up for you.

Right, potential. The recruiting class is part of the potential.

You yourself said this year's class is bad.

That's part of the future potential.

If it makes you feel better, I will rephrase my former comment:

"Potentially elite teams do not have bad recruiting years."


Yeah, oddly enough those things aren't as helpful with recruiting when the team just doesn't win. They're much more useful when you can combine them with success; they can amplify your recruiting ability in the right circumstances. Now that we seem to be leaving the vicious cycle of bad season > poor recruits > bad season that Fran had us locked into, we have the potential to move into the better version (success > great recruits > more success).

Yeah, oddly enough, Fran had great recruiting classes even with the giant tortilla up his ass.

According to Rivals, this past 2011 recruiting season was the 2nd worst in last 10 years, only better than the one during the Coach Fran fallout.

you have no idea what you are talking about but it's fun to watch you act like you do.

lol future potential

Darth_Pelican
06-02-2011, 03:38 PM
God I LOVE college football! :lol

Fuck yeah.

I'm making the trip to Dallas to see the LSU vs. Oregon season opener. I can't fucking wait.

rjv
06-02-2011, 03:43 PM
Yeah, oddly enough, Fran had great recruiting classes even with the giant tortilla up his ass.

According to Rivals, this past 2011 recruiting season was the 2nd worst in last 10 years, only better than the one during the Coach Fran fallout.

you have no idea what you are talking about but it's fun to watch you act like you do.

lol future potential

to be fair, the 2012 class is shaping up to be a possible top 10 class and sherman is already getting some nice 2013 recruits. these are trends fran never demonstrated in his entire tenure at a&m.

Blake
06-02-2011, 04:02 PM
to be fair, the 2012 class is shaping up to be a possible top 10 class and sherman is already getting some nice 2013 recruits. these are trends fran never demonstrated in his entire tenure at a&m.

Fran years:

2003 #10
2004 #13
2005 #8

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2003/all/all

tlongII
06-02-2011, 04:27 PM
pwned!

Thompson
06-02-2011, 04:45 PM
Right, potential. The recruiting class is part of the potential.

You yourself said this year's class is bad.

That's part of the future potential.




This year's recruiting class is based on A&M's level of success prior to this past year; we haven't had a good team in a decade (though we did thrash Tech in Lubbock Leach's final year when everyone was predicting a blowout in Tech's favor).


This year's 'bad' class (relative to normally stronger classes) was recruited based on the uncertainty and results of 2009; the 2010 year has already provided us with a strong incoming class for next year.

Sherman had to rebuild the wreck Fran left us in and managed to do so, to the point where we're starting the season in or near the top 10. One relatively weak class will not kill a program, especially when it's bookended with great classes.

And as you said, recruiting is only 'part' of the potential. You're not even looking at all the current talent from the combined classes to base your prediction on; you're predicting we don't even have the potential to join the elite based on one recruiting class (part of a part of the potential) while ignoring the other strong (and improving) classes and the coaching that built up the program from the Fran years to a top-10 team.

Thompson
06-02-2011, 04:56 PM
Fran years:

2003 #10
2004 #13
2005 #8

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2003/all/all

If we could consistently pull in classes like that during the Fran years (obviously not helped at all by performance on the field) imagine what we could do with a top-10 season. We managed a 3-year average class ranking of 10.33 during the Fran debacle. Logically, improved field performance should lead to better classes.

You don't think classes ranked 5-10 combined with coaching that took us from the Fran era to top-10 status on the field will allow us the 'potential' to join the elite?

Blake
06-02-2011, 05:16 PM
This year's 'bad' class (relative to normally stronger classes) was recruited based on the uncertainty and results of 2009;

and you know this how?

link please.


Sherman had to rebuild the wreck Fran left us in and managed to do so, to the point where we're starting the season in or near the top 10. One relatively weak class will not kill a program, especially when it's bookended with great classes.

I would agree.

But that doesnt mean 'potentially elite' any time soon.


And as you said, recruiting is only 'part' of the potential. You're not even looking at all the current talent from the combined classes to base your prediction on; you're predicting we don't even have the potential to join the elite based on one recruiting class (part of a part of the potential) while ignoring the other strong (and improving) classes and the coaching that built up the program from the Fran years to a top-10 team.

ok, for fun, define "elite."

also list a number of elite schools so we can compare and contrast rosters, head coaches and recruiting classes for 2010, 2011 and 2012 and see if A&M has what it takes to potentially make this list in the near future.

Blake
06-02-2011, 05:24 PM
Logically, improved field performance should lead to better classes.

You might think that, but there isn't any real data to support those findings. Especially if you would logically consider the opposite to be true in that failing field performance leads to poorer classes.

I would say that championships and exposure (and cheating) lead to better classes more than just finishing better than the previous year in the rankings.


You don't think classes ranked 5-10 combined with coaching that took us from the Fran era to top-10 status on the field will allow us the 'potential' to join the elite?

Jury is still out on the coaching.

I think Sherman is mediocre myself.

Thompson
06-02-2011, 05:58 PM
and you know this how?

link please.


Link to what? Recruits base a large part of their decision on whether or not they think they can be successful at your school. If the school has a bad year or coaching changes/uncertainty, that hurts your ability to recruit. This is common knowledge. As far as saying it was a 'bad' class, that was relative to what we normally bring in.



What were your impressions of the Aggies' 2011 class last year that signed in February?

"I think last year was when you kind of started seeing maybe the transition of this coaching staff really cementing themselves, because it takes time to do that. That's not an easy thing to do. So we were impressed with it. We thought it was one of the top classes in the country. Not any, in my opinion, at the top end of the scale. Last year's class did not have anything near the top end of what this class looks to have right now. Twenty-three guys ended up signing with them. I'd say the top half of those guys are bona fide, BCS conference-caliber potential starters who can win games for you. This class this year, in comparison, could have 4-6 potential difference makers on top of what I mentioned earlier about that middle third that can be so important."

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/28945/aggies-are-building-big-things-on-recruiting-trail


But that doesnt mean 'potentially elite' any time soon.

ok, for fun, define "elite."

Potential to join the elite: this year could be the start of the trend that establishes A&M as being among the elite. Elite performance would be landing in the top 10; 'elite' schools consistently land in the top 10 over a period of time (a decade for example), and have a smattering of conference championships and maybe a national title.



also list a number of elite schools so we can compare and contrast rosters, head coaches and recruiting classes for 2010, 2011 and 2012 and see if A&M has what it takes to potentially make this list in the near future.

Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma and LSU have been elite for a decade or more; of course our recruiting classes will not yet compare with theirs, especially over any length of time. Consistent improvement on the field under Mike Sherman leading to a top-10 season combined with increasing success in recruiting could be the start of a trend in which A&M joins the elite, and eventually over several years establishes itself among the elite.

What was your definition of elite?

Blake
06-03-2011, 09:12 AM
Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma and LSU have been elite for a decade or more; of course our recruiting classes will not yet compare with theirs, especially over any length of time.

What was your definition of elite?

Those schools define 'elite' just fine, imo.

If 'of course your recruiting classes will not yet compare with theirs, especially over any length of time', then explain again where you think the potential is coming from to join this group of elites in the near future.

Thompson
06-03-2011, 09:57 AM
Those schools define 'elite' just fine, imo.

If 'of course your recruiting classes will not yet compare with theirs, especially over any length of time', then explain again where you think the potential is coming from to join this group of elites in the near future.

Just because a class is not as highly ranked as someone else's doesn't mean you don't have the potential to play on par with them. See Boise State.

Our recruiting classes are much better than Boise's, and the more success we have the more likely the incoming classes will progressively improve. Sherman has already taken the team from the Fran era to near top-10 ranking, and DeRuyter took the defense from 104th in 2009 to 21st in 2010. We are not certain to join the elite, but I think we clearly have the potential to do so.

Blake
06-03-2011, 10:31 AM
Just because a class is not as highly ranked as someone else's doesn't mean you don't have the potential to play on par with them. See Boise State.

Our recruiting classes are much better than Boise's, and the more success we have the more likely the incoming classes will progressively improve. Sherman has already taken the team from the Fran era to near top-10 ranking, and DeRuyter took the defense from 104th in 2009 to 21st in 2010.

Except that A&M hasn't proven they can play on par with the elite any time recently.


We are not certain to join the elite, but I think we clearly have the potential to do so.

In the near future? We know you think A&M will finish top ten this year.

What do you predict A&M's ranking to be at the end of the 2012 football season?

Thompson
06-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Except that A&M hasn't proven they can play on par with the elite any time recently.


They beat Oklahoma and Nebraska last year, and they should be better this year with 10 returning offensive starters (2 of our offensive linemen were true freshman last year) and our defense in its second year under DeRuyter.



In the near future? We know you think A&M will finish top ten this year.

What do you predict A&M's ranking to be at the end of the 2012 football season?

I think they certainly have the potential to continue the trend and remain in the top 10. I can't say they will for certain, but they have the potential to do so. We'll lose Tannehill after this year, but I think Manziel could be a great replacement.

Blake
06-03-2011, 02:19 PM
They beat Oklahoma and Nebraska last year, and they should be better this year with 10 returning offensive starters (2 of our offensive linemen were true freshman last year) and our defense in its second year under DeRuyter.

Yeah, the OU win was nice but then the Aggies got crushed by LSU.

Nebraska is not elite at the moment, but is a great example of what a solid 4 is, imo. It's all laid out for them to take that next step into elite annual NC contender status.


I think they certainly have the potential to continue the trend and remain in the top 10. I can't say they will for certain, but they have the potential to do so. We'll lose Tannehill after this year, but I think Manziel could be a great replacement.

What do you predict A&M's ranking to be at the end of the 2012 football season?

Sisk
06-03-2011, 05:46 PM
A&M is returning the vast majority of their starters. If Texas A&M doesn't do better than we did last year - it's a major disappointment.

Thompson
06-03-2011, 06:03 PM
What do you predict A&M's ranking to be at the end of the 2012 football season?

I said potentially top 10. You want an exact number, fine: 9th.

rjv
06-03-2011, 08:45 PM
Fran years:

2003 #10
2004 #13
2005 #8

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2003/all/all


i wasn't referring to the rankings. i was referring to the early jump to getting ahead in the recruiting classes.

rjv
06-03-2011, 08:55 PM
not sure why anyone is really all that concerned in convincing blake where a&m will finish. they look good on paper, had some nice wins last year and could be in the top 10 to start the year. but really, a&m has yet to live up to the hype in previous years and so we'll just have to wait and see.

Thompson
06-03-2011, 09:59 PM
not sure why anyone is really all that concerned in convincing blake where a&m will finish. they look good on paper, had some nice wins last year and could be in the top 10 to start the year. but really, a&m has yet to live up to the hype in previous years and so we'll just have to wait and see.

Boredom. I miss football.

Blake's couch
06-03-2011, 11:36 PM
Those schools define 'elite' just fine, imo.

If 'of course your recruiting classes will not yet compare with theirs, especially over any length of time', then explain again where you think the potential is coming from to join this group of elites in the near future.

*sigh* i just saw another big black guy go upstairs.

does that mean you're sleeping on me again tonight?

Blake
06-04-2011, 09:26 AM
I said potentially top 10. You want an exact number, fine: 9th.

huh, I'm not seeing a potential top 10 finish for them in 2012.

What makes you think they have that kind of potential?

Blake
06-04-2011, 09:28 AM
not sure why anyone is really all that concerned in convincing blake where a&m will finish.

me neither, but it's fun to watch.

Blake
06-04-2011, 09:30 AM
*sigh* i just saw another big black guy go upstairs.

does that mean you're sleeping on me again tonight?

lol

would have been a rofl if the username had been approved 6 months ago

IronMexican
06-04-2011, 10:22 AM
man, that's an awesome troll.

Blake
07-26-2011, 10:30 AM
I think I can safely guarantee that we'll far outstrip Tech in 2012 recruiting (we already beat Tech head-to-head for Trey Williams).

It's not outlandish to predict that A&M could finish in the top 10 this year; you're either bitter or not too bright (or some combination of the two).

lmao

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

Axe Murderer
07-26-2011, 11:17 AM
Can't wait to see how Tech looks this season. 3rd best Big XII recruiting class behind OU and UT. in a 1/2 seasons we'll be back to competing for the South title

Blake
07-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Can't wait to see how Tech looks this season. 3rd best Big XII recruiting class behind OU and UT. in a 1/2 seasons we'll be back to owning A&M regularly and competing for the South title

I wish this new D coordinator from TCU had been here last year and I wish Doege already had a year under his belt to take advantage of this really favorable schedule.

As it is, meh, another 8 win year imo.

Axe Murderer
07-26-2011, 11:25 AM
tbh i think everyone's gonna see how good we had it with Potts. I was one of many who threw him under the bus but he proved all of us wrong after Sheffield had that stinker 1st half against Mizzou.

the only thing I won't forgive Taylor about was his terrible game against UT

pkbpkb81
07-26-2011, 11:28 AM
lol at A&M fan trying to prove their worth to Blake

pkbpkb81
07-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Can't wait to see how Tech looks this season. 3rd best Big XII recruiting class behind OU and UT. in a 1/2 seasons we'll be back to competing for the South title

There is no more south title, see there are only 10 teams in the big12 so that means no more north or south just a regular season champ.

outside of one year when did ttu compete for a south title?

Axe Murderer
07-26-2011, 11:38 AM
There is no more south title, see there are only 10 teams in the big12 so that means no more north or south just a regular season champ.

outside of one year when did ttu compete for a south title?

well they would "compete" for the title until they ran into a UT/OU on the road and get curbstomped but still ending up with only 2-3 losses.

That better? :lol

Blake
07-26-2011, 11:46 AM
lol at A&M fan trying to prove their worth to Blake

reread thread.

....

yup, still lol

gray named aggie fans are as awesome as gnsfs

DesignatedT
07-26-2011, 02:11 PM
lol tech
lol thinking they are better than A&M
lol thinking they will finish ahead of A&M
lol rivals recruiting rankings

Blake
07-26-2011, 02:16 PM
lol tech

congrats to aggies being able to lol tech for the 1st time in about 20 years. must feel pretty good. :tu


lol thinking they are better than A&M
lol thinking they will finish ahead of A&M

lol lol nobody thinks Tech is better than A&M
lol lol nobody thinks Tech will finish ahead of A&M


lol recruiting rankings

lmfao recruiting rankings

DesignatedT
07-26-2011, 05:23 PM
lol lol nobody thinks Tech is better than A&M
lol lol nobody thinks Tech will finish ahead of A&M


:tu

DesignatedT
07-26-2011, 05:46 PM
and since you're so caught up on recruiting smack... Rivals has updated there recruiting rankings btw

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

:lmao fail

Juan
07-26-2011, 06:39 PM
:lol texas tech


Why did Texas Tech drop TCU from its football schedule this season? Red Raiders coach Tommy Tuberville provided reporters with a blunt answer at the Big 12 Media Day on Tuesday.

"That's not the type of team we want to play now," Tuberville said, outlining the ability to win as part of the reason.

Blake
07-26-2011, 06:41 PM
and since you're so caught up on recruiting smack... Rivals has updated there recruiting rankings btw

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

:lmao fail

I bet you shit your pants there for a second

Blake
07-26-2011, 06:43 PM
:lol texas tech

Tech gains nothing by playing a non conference game against tcu.

Good move, tbh

dirk4mvp
07-26-2011, 07:04 PM
lol Tuberville

what a snake.

Axe Murderer
07-26-2011, 09:36 PM
On a neutral field, TCU would beat any team in the Big XII right now tbh

pkbpkb81
07-26-2011, 09:40 PM
Not Any Team maybe 9 but not any team

ThePop
07-26-2011, 09:42 PM
Not OU

dirk4mvp
07-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Stooooooooooooooooooops

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-26-2011, 09:45 PM
yeah I'd take OU over TCU

Arizon:lol is gonna be sick once Stooooooooooooooooooooops is fired and we get Mike Leach

Thompson
07-26-2011, 10:20 PM
lmao

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

Texas A&M #8, Texas Tech #15; lmao indeed. We didn't have to take guys like Wheeler to get our ranking either (talented, but a prima donna who threw a hissy fit when our staff didn't focus exclusively on him during a visit; the A&M staff rescinded his offer).

Axe Murderer
07-26-2011, 11:43 PM
http://i36.tinypic.com/339it89.gif

Stooooooooooooooooooops!

DUNCANownsKOBE
07-27-2011, 09:07 AM
get down Stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops!

badfish22
07-29-2011, 03:37 PM
Texas A&M #8, Texas Tech #15; lmao indeed. We didn't have to take guys like Wheeler to get our ranking either (talented, but a prima donna who threw a hissy fit when our staff didn't focus exclusively on him during a visit; the A&M staff rescinded his offer).

289qdoULxdE

DesignatedT
07-29-2011, 03:57 PM
289qdoULxdE

Enjoy it while you can. You only got about 2 months left.

badfish22
07-29-2011, 04:47 PM
Enjoy it while you can. You only got about 2 months left.
Ok.




















289qdoULxdE

johngateswhiteley
08-07-2011, 06:55 PM
You're bitching about how A&M should be a 3 because you're bitter that we're now on the ascendant track Tech appeared to be on a few years ago, before you returned to mediocrity.

Your bitterness has clouded your judgment. We're likely starting and finishing the season as a top-10 team; our recruiting has benefited enormously already from our success last year (success we are likely to top this year). Any objective person would have little problem saying a team with those factors could 'potentially join the elite,' especially when combined with the resources and rabid support of the 7th-largest university in the nation.

Also, your 2011 statistical anomaly notwithstanding, A&M will likely bring in classes superior to Tech for the foreseeable future.

Care to dispute on the merits, or does your Tech education exclusively provide you with name-calling as a retort?

Blake just likes to bag on A&M...who cares. We should be good this year, though I am a little concerned, as are most analysts, how A&M will handle the expectations. Not a great historical trend. That being said...

A&M has owned tekk in recruiting for years, and aside from a year or two here and there, will continue to do so. Period.

pkbpkb81
08-09-2011, 12:31 PM
The Lewis News today blows, but I’ve heard good things about his back up

DesignatedT
08-09-2011, 01:03 PM
Corey Nelson is damn good, but Travis Lewis is a f'n beast.

pkbpkb81
08-09-2011, 01:06 PM
where it really hurts in Nelson was going to play db/lb hybrid mix that roy willams made famous

Neo.
08-09-2011, 02:09 PM
LMAO lewis
LMAO sooners

DesignatedT
08-09-2011, 03:05 PM
non-issue IMO. As long as they make it out of Tallahassee with a W then they will be okay. I don't see another game they can lose until their last game against the Pokes.

Got to get out of Tallahassee with a win though.