Just saw/heard Ian Mahinmi's Battle Scream...

[Calispursfan11]

during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?

[blizz]

during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?

Here we go...another one. Ok I'll play. What's not to like? How bout the fact that he SUCKS.....PERIOD.

[Calispursfan11]

More useful than Bonner or Blair defensively. No debate there.

[TwelveGs210]

Heres what not to like..

1. Clumsiness
2. Lack of focus
3. Inconsistency
4. Bad hands

[spurs1990]

Didn't realize Ian was on Dallas.

Will have to root for him to ring...only Spurs connection on either team, am I correct?

[Calispursfan11]

Didn't realize Ian was on Dallas.

Will have to root for him to ring...only Spurs connection on either team, am I correct?

You are definitely correct that he is the only player connection. I'm not sure about the coaching staff.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Heres what not to like..

1. Clumsiness
2. Lack of focus
3. Inconsistency
4. Bad hands

You forgot foul prone.

[stxspurs]

during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?

U serious? U think he is a beast cuz he yelled loud....classic.

[clambake]

he is our pine warrior.

[gospursgojas]

Thats what bench warmers do...they plenty of time to practice thier cheering/roaring

[Calispursfan11]

I'm not saying he's the next Garnett, but his roar was pretty good. I mean, we could have used some of that. Can you imagine Bonner roaring like that? Didn't think so. Clank!

[Budkin]

He's been dominating for the Mavs this year. Too bad we got rid of him.

[lefty]

He doesnt spread the floor either

[Calispursfan11]

he is our pine warrior.

LOL, well, he's a good cheerleader and could play valuable minutes for the Spurs if they were to give him a chance a la not giving Splitter a chance and instead favoring a 6-4 midget to guard the likes of Garnett, Randolph and the Gasols.

[Calispursfan11]

Heres what not to like..

1. Clumsiness
2. Lack of focus
3. Inconsistency
4. Bad hands

Sounds like Bonner and Blair.

In fact, I am going to start calling them "Blonner" as they basically represent the same thing - bad defense in the post.

[DMC]

That's what's really missing from the Spurs' lineup, a screamer. They have a pillow biter in RJ, but they really need someone who can scream like a beast because that wins championships.

[TwelveGs210]

Sounds like Bonner and Blair.

In fact, I am going to start calling them "Blonner" as they basically represent the same thing - bad defense in the post.

Blair actually has decent hands, ive seen quite a few steals off of swipes, and if the touches his fingertips on a rebound, its his 99% of the time.

And yes, I also forgot Ian is foul prone on my list of things not to like, and thats the biggest issue because he couldnt stay on the court long enough to progress. Seemed due to his clumsiness, which I did mention.

[Bruno]

Ian is a lovable guy but, while he hasn't been a disaster this year, he has done nothing good enough to claim Spurs made a mistake by letting him go.

Ian was interviewed in a french newspaper today and I found interesting what he said about Mavs and Spurs: "I'm not surprised by our success. There is a big mental strength in this team with a group of vets that knows what he want. And the coaching staff listen more at what players are saying. In SA, Pop was controlling everything. Here, there are discussions. Players can carry their point of view. It's well balanced."

Food for thoughts...

[DMC]

If the Spurs had acquired Butler instead of Jefferson, and Tyson Chandler instead of Dice, and let Red go for whatever, maybe a real backup PG, the democracy aspect would be a moot point. There are many things going on with winning teams, and not all of them have much to do with the winning part.

[quentin_compson]

Yeah, that battle scream surely helped the Mavs win the game.

[DPG21920]

Ian is a lovable guy but, while he hasn't been a disaster this year, he has done nothing good enough to claim Spurs made a mistake by letting him go.

Ian was interviewed in a french newspaper today and I found interesting what he said about Mavs and Spurs: "I'm not surprised by our success. There is a big mental strength in this team with a group of vets that knows what he want. And the coaching staff listen more at what players are saying. In SA, Pop was controlling everything. Here, there are discussions. Players can carry their point of view. It's well balanced."

Food for thoughts...

Interesting. At times, it does seem like some players have stopped responding to Pop. There were many comments all year that hinted they did not agree with many of his decisions.

Not saying he has "lost" the team, or that even Ian's accounts are accurate as I am sure he consults D.P.G. with many decision.

[spurtech09]

well for the people that are hating...atleast Ian is in the nba finals while the whole spurs roster is at home watching the nba finals :(

[edgar]

Here's what not to like..

1. He is not a member of healthboard.co

[Spurtacus]

Scola 2.0

The battle cry is only the beginning.

[DMX7]

If he were actually playing, you might have a point.

[Calispursfan11]

If he were actually playing, you might have a point.

Maybe his lack of playing is the reason the Mavs lost?

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe his lack of playing is the reason the Mavs lost?What evidence do you have to prove that contention?

[Calispursfan11]

He is probably a better FT shooter than Haywood. Had he played as well as Haywood in game 1 - not hard AND made his FTs, then the Mavs might have had an edge in the fourth. Game by game basis of course. I'm not saying he's better than Haywood overall. just that Haywood sucked in Game 1.

[ChumpDumper]

lol

[Calispursfan11]

lol

You are understandably amused by my reasoning, and yet, there is some logic there if you look at Haywood's less than stellar stats in Game 1. Those 14 mins could have been better spent on Ian and his significantly better FTs.

[ChumpDumper]

You are understandably amused by my reasoning, and yet, there is some logic there if you look at Haywood's less than stellar stats in Game 1. Those 14 mins could have been better spent on Ian and his significantly better FTs.Ian probably would have fouled out before the 14 minute mark.

lol significantly

[Calispursfan11]

Ian probably would have fouled out before the 14 minute mark.

lol significantly

Good point. Looks like I've been ChumpDumped.

Can't fault the ol college try tho right?

[ChumpDumper]

It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.

[Calispursfan11]

It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.

I actually don't know much about Mahinmi other than the battle scream and a couple of aggressive looking dunks, blocks and other plays I witnessed during some regular season games last year. He just looked like he had a lot of potential then. I wonder if Splitter would be playing at all if on the Mavs or still riding the pine like Mahinmi or whether there is a significant difference in skill and effectiveness there.

[TJastal]

It's a tough sell, but there is a reason why he's not playing.

And now we all know the "reason" Matt Bonner was given a 20 minutes a game against memphis.

Reasons are fickle things in Pop's world.

[GSH]

during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?


If Mahinmi is adding anything to the Mavs, it must be in the locker room. It sure as hell isn't on the floor. That was an impressive zero minutes he put into last night's win.

[TJastal]

If Mahinmi is adding anything to the Mavs, it must be in the locker room. It sure as hell isn't on the floor. That was an impressive zero minutes he put into last night's win.

Mahinmi had quite a few quality outings this year in limited time. I'm not sure what your point is really. James Jones had an impressive season for the heat, and now he's not getting minutes either. A guy like that is still nice to have around.

If and when Cuban can dump Brenda's contract to some other team Mahinmi will start to see more minutes, and maybe even sooner. I think Cuban wouldn't hesitate in the least if an opportunity arose to offload Brenda and her 50 million+ contract in order to pay Ian 1/10 of the price for essentially the same results.

[GSH]

Mahinmi had quite a few quality outings this year in limited time. I'm not sure what your point is really.




My point is that the thread is about Mahinmi's "battle scream" in the fucking locker room, and how much that would have meant to the Spurs.


Oh, and with the exception of one game against Memphis, Ian's "quality outings" were against Golden State, Cleveland, and Toronto. But every time he scored more than about 5 points, there were people starting threads about how we let the next Shaq slip right through our fingers. Hey... maybe Shaq will come out of retirement, and just scream in the Spurs locker room?

[TJastal]

My point is that the thread is about Mahinmi's "battle scream" in the fucking locker room, and how much that would have meant to the Spurs.


Oh, and with the exception of one game against Memphis, Ian's "quality outings" were against Golden State, Cleveland, and Toronto. But every time he scored more than about 5 points, there were people starting threads about how we let the next Shaq slip right through our fingers. Hey... maybe Shaq will come out of retirement, and just scream in the Spurs locker room?

Love how you left out his best outing (against Memphis). Guess you forgot to mention that one, huh? :p

So the logical conclusion you're making is that teammates that sit stoically with mopey faces are so much better to have around. Do I have that right? Hey, come to think of it, Ianny did that alot when he was with the spurs.

[GSH]

Love how you left out his best outing (against Memphis). Guess you forgot to mention that one, huh? :p

So the logical conclusion you're making is that teammates that sit stoically with mopey faces are so much better to have around. Do I have that right? Hey, come to think of it, Ianny did that alot when he was with the spurs.


LOL... you didn't even watch that game, did you? Ian had his usual 7 points (good game for him, actually) until the 4th quarter, when the Mavs were down by 22, and Memphis didn't give a shit anymore. Ian "The Battle Scream" Mahinmi picked up 10 points in garbage time, and you guys think he's the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain. I wouldn't put too much effort into any more of those "logical conclusions".

BTW - because of Mahinmi's effort, the Mavs were able to trim that 22 point deficit to just 19 by the end of the game. Congratufuckinglations.

[TJastal]

LOL... you didn't even watch that game, did you? Ian had his usual 7 points (good game for him, actually) until the 4th quarter, when the Mavs were down by 22, and Memphis didn't give a shit anymore. Ian "The Battle Scream" Mahinmi picked up 10 points in garbage time, and you guys think he's the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain. I wouldn't put too much effort into any more of those "logical conclusions".

BTW - because of Mahinmi's effort, the Mavs were able to trim that 22 point deficit to just 19 by the end of the game. Congratufuckinglations.

Nobody ever said he was the second coming of Chamberlain, just a solid bench guy to have. In his six regular season games of 20+ minutes he logged a double double once, missed another by 1 point, had two near double-doubles, and had two "off" games where he put up 7/5. Well cripes, I'd be exstatic if Matt Bonner could put up those kind of numbers even with longer minutes. Usually Bonner recording a double-double is cause for several jubiliatory threads on spurstalk. :lmao

And you're right, he scored 10 of his 17 in garbage time against Gasol & Randolph, but then again I guess any scrub in the league could do that easily right? :rolleyes

[GSH]

Nobody ever said he was the second coming of Chamberlain, just a solid bench guy to have.

If you're not one of those people, then I wasn't talking to you. Why be defensive about something that doesn't apply to you?

Through this whole season, any time the guy scored more than 4-5 points, there were threads about how great he was the night before. And seriously... the battle scream? You're defending his ability on the court - I get it. But surely you aren't defending the battle scream?

I didn't call him a scrub... but in the Memphis game, there was NO defense being played in that fourth quarter. There's no way Mahinmi does that against the guys we faced in the playoffs. You know that.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not sure what your point is really.The point is Ian doesn't play.


If and when Cuban can dump Brenda's contract to some other team Mahinmi will start to see more minutes, and maybe even sooner. I think Cuban wouldn't hesitate in the least if an opportunity arose to offload Brenda and her 50 million+ contract in order to pay Ian 1/10 of the price for essentially the same results.Ah, the old "he's only playing more because he gets paid more" argument.

[spurs777]

TBH Mahimni isn't that bad he just has bad footwork on the defensive end, once he works on that and doesn't foul as much he will be a solid 15 MPG player

[ChumpDumper]

lol solid bench guy

[TJastal]

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6628183

Ian Mahinmi, a 6-foot-10, 24-year-old reserve, could get his first significant playing time of the postseason. Coach Rick Carlisle could also opt to go with a smaller lineup that features 6-foot-7 Shawn Marion at center when starting big man Tyson Chandler rests.

Looks like Ian may see some minutes tonight. I think it's quite likely given the heat will be attacking the rim all night. He may not last long but will provide some quality rim protection. He's got to fill Haywood's shoes which shouldn't be that difficult IMO. He's defenitely more than capable.

[ChumpDumper]

Good luck to him.

[wildbill2u]

There were several times during the season when Ian got into the rotation when Chandler was hurt and ahead of Brendan.

Dallas sportswriters and sportscasters commented on how lucky the Mavs were to get a young guy that was making significant contributions when called on. Rick Carlisle joined in praising him.

I don't think anyone said he'd be starting soon and Brenday reclaimed his rotation spot, but Mahinmi did play well and didn't have huge problems with fouls. What fouls he had were sometimes because he was really over-trying on defensive blocks. You can say that his energy is a liability when he fouls--or you can say it helps energize the other players to play harder.

IMO I don't think it is crazy to give the guy some props he earned on another team, just because our coaches/FO chose to go in another direction. I argued for years that we should heed the coaches/FO opinion on Ian, but I've come to the conclusion after watching Maverick games that he's one of those guys who is a better game player than a practice player.

[Calispursfan11]

There were several times during the season when Ian got into the rotation when Chandler was hurt and ahead of Brendan.

Dallas sportswriters and sportscasters commented on how lucky the Mavs were to get a young guy that was making significant contributions when called on. Rick Carlisle joined in praising him.

I don't think anyone said he'd be starting soon and Brenday reclaimed his rotation spot, but Mahinmi did play well and didn't have huge problems with fouls. What fouls he had were sometimes because he was really over-trying on defensive blocks. You can say that his energy is a liability when he fouls--or you can say it helps energize the other players to play harder.

IMO I don't think it is crazy to give the guy some props he earned on another team, just because our coaches/FO chose to go in another direction. I argued for years that we should heed the coaches/FO opinion on Ian, but I've come to the conclusion after watching Maverick games that he's one of those guys who is a better game player than a practice player.

Would have liked to see him in some regular season Mavs games, but missed them this season.

[VBM]

Lol 5 fouls in 7 min

[TJastal]

Lol 5 fouls in 7 min

He's gotta learn not to leave his feet on those pump fakes on the baseline.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol battle scream for quick fouls...

i dont think he wouldve made a difference if he was on the spurs, just another foul magnet like blair and bonner

[ChumpDumper]

Ian probably would have fouled out before the 14 minute mark.Was anyone really surprised?

[Calispursfan11]

Was anyone really surprised?

Ok, let's just give shout out to the battle squeal. I liked it and everyone should also be good with it. Can't hurt.

[024]

:lol at the spur fans thinking mahinmi should have gotten decent minutes

[joshdaboss]

My question is, why the hell is he in there doing anything? He's basically Mr. Irrelevant.

[wildbill2u]

From today's Dallas Morning News Maverick Blog with Nowitski answering questions:

Q. Can you talk a little about the loss of Brendan Haywood for tonight's game and the play of Mahinmi out there?
DIRK NOWITZKI: I think Ian gave us energy. He's very athletic. He's quick on his feet. I actually think he played all right. But Haywood has been big for us in the paint over the last year and a half we had him. He's a big guy, and he can change a lot of shots at the rim. I actually thought Ian did his job tonight.

[TJastal]

From today's Dallas Morning News Maverick Blog with Nowitski answering questions:

Q. Can you talk a little about the loss of Brendan Haywood for tonight's game and the play of Mahinmi out there?
DIRK NOWITZKI: I think Ian gave us energy. He's very athletic. He's quick on his feet. I actually think he played all right. But Haywood has been big for us in the paint over the last year and a half we had him. He's a big guy, and he can change a lot of shots at the rim. I actually thought Ian did his job tonight.

I thought he did okay too, and some of the fouls they called on him were just pure bullcrap.

[GSH]

Q. Can you talk a little about the loss of Brendan Haywood for tonight's game and the play of Mahinmi out there?

DIRK NOWITZKI: I think Ian gave us energy. He's very athletic. He's quick on his feet. I actually think he played all right. But Haywood has been big for us in the paint over the last year and a half we had him. He's a big guy, and he can change a lot of shots at the rim. I actually thought Ian did his job tonight. But the biggest thing was probably his battle scream - that almost allowed us to win the game. Without it, we wouldn't have been close.

[TJastal]

Q. Can you talk a little about the loss of Brendan Haywood for tonight's game and the play of Mahinmi out there?

DIRK NOWITZKI: I think Ian gave us energy. He's very athletic. He's quick on his feet. I actually think he played all right. But Haywood has been big for us in the paint over the last year and a half we had him. He's a big guy, and he can change a lot of shots at the rim. I actually thought Ian did his job tonight. But the biggest thing was probably his battle scream - that almost allowed us to win the game. Without it, we wouldn't have been close.

Maybe Dirk only scores 25 instead of 34 without that scream.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I think any team could find an idiot to scream like an idiot.

[lefty]

Man, his FT shooting looked great yesterday :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

I have a feeling calispursfan is a troll :lol

[DesignatedT]

5 fouls in 8 minutes lmao.

Astonishing how some of you arm chair coaches have such an incredible eye for talent :lmao

[crc21209]

5 fouls in 8 minutes lmao.

Astonishing how some of you arm chair coaches have such an incredible eye for talent :lmao

:lol +1.

[underdawg]

5 fouls in 8 minutes lmao.

Astonishing how some of you arm chair coaches have such an incredible eye for talent :lmao

Say what you want, but other than the fouls (at least he tried to play defense) he basically had the same stats as bonner for 8 minutes of play: 2 pts. and 1 rebound

[ChumpDumper]

Say what you want, but other than the fouls (at least he tried to play defense) he basically had the same stats as bonner for 8 minutes of play: 2 pts. and 1 reboundlol reach

[underdawg]

lol reach

not too much of a reach - none of his fouls were and 1's like most of bonner's (it seems at least) and Howard missed his 1st free throw of a 1and1 and Bosh missed one of his, so not that bad. He wasn't horrible for his experience - can't say the same for bonner in the past few years of playoffs.

[DesignatedT]

lol at comparing bonner and mahinmi... what would replacing an underachiever with a never achiever do? comparing scrubs to scrubs. I would want Mahinmi on this team just as much as I want Bonner.... zero.

[ChumpDumper]

not too much of a reach - none of his fouls were and 1's like most of bonner's (it seems at least) and Howard missed his 1st free throw of a 1and1 and Bosh missed one of his, so not that bad. He wasn't horrible for his experience - can't say the same for bonner in the past few years of playoffs.Oh, it's a reach. He could have literally taken a shit on the court and eaten it and folks on this board would be saying stuff like "Well, at least it was an athletic shit. Did you see how fast he turned around and ate it? Bonner and Blair wish they could eat their own shit that fast."

[underdawg]

lol at comparing bonner and mahinmi... what would replacing an underachiever with a never achiever do? comparing scrubs to scrubs. I would want Mahinmi on this team just as much as I want Bonner.... zero.

no kidding, really? Wouldn't have been a replacement - Ian was cheap and bonner's value to the team has and will always be overated. With the money left over (yep $2mil) I still think you could have found someone to be more effective in the rotation of bigs than bonner and blair were in the playoffs.

[underdawg]

Oh, it's a reach. He could have literally taken a shit on the court and eaten it and folks on this board would be saying stuff like "Well, at least it was an athletic shit. Did you see how fast he turned around and ate it? Bonner and Blair wish they could eat their own shit that fast."

have I ever said anything remotely similar to that?

[ChumpDumper]

"And did you see the actual turd? That's a man's turd right there. I doubt anyone on the Spurs could have something like that come out of his body."

[DesignatedT]

Oh, it's a reach. He could have literally taken a shit on the court and eaten it and folks on this board would be saying stuff like "Well, at least it was an athletic shit. Did you see how fast he turned around and ate it? Bonner and Blair wish they could eat their own shit that fast."

lol

[timtonymanu]

Oh, it's a reach. He could have literally taken a shit on the court and eaten it and folks on this board would be saying stuff like "Well, at least it was an athletic shit. Did you see how fast he turned around and ate it? Bonner and Blair wish they could eat their own shit that fast."

:lmao

[smrattler]

Ian's barking could have diverted some of Zach Randolph's shots!

The force of his screams could have swatted some of those soft shots off the rim from Gasol.

Bring him back!

[smrattler]

...

[underdawg]

"And did you see the actual turd? That's a man's turd right there. I doubt anyone on the Spurs could have something like that come out of his body."

when did you become such a bitter old man? I don't know your age, but that's what you sound like these days.

I'm just curious where these Ian "the superman" Mahinmi posts are that you and others refer to constantly - please show them if you get the time.

[underdawg]

lol

sheep

[underdawg]

:lmao

sheep

[underdawg]

Ian's barking could have diverted some of Zach Randolph's shots!

The force of his screams could have swatted some of those soft shots off the rim from Gasol.

Bring him back!

sheep

[ChumpDumper]

when did you become such a bitter old man? I don't know your age, but that's what you sound like these days.

I'm just curious where these Ian "the superman" Mahinmi posts are that you and others refer to constantly - please show them if you get the time."And the texture -- my God, the texture! It was so nutty I think he swallows them whole. Not like the nuts Bonner swallows, amiright?"

[ChumpDumper]

sheep


sheep


sheepWhen did you become such a bitter old man? I don't know your age, but that's what you sound like these days.

[edgar]

everyone gets dunked on at some point, give the guy a break!

[Calispursfan11]

I have a feeling calispursfan is a troll :lol

You don't like my posts?

[Calispursfan11]

Ian's barking could have diverted some of Zach Randolph's shots!

The force of his screams could have swatted some of those soft shots off the rim from Gasol.

Bring him back!

That's what I'm talking about!

[Calispursfan11]

"And the texture -- my God, the texture! It was so nutty I think he swallows them whole. Not like the nuts Bonner swallows, amiright?"

ROTFL. Peanut butter nougat, Snickers really satisfies! :lol

[rjv]

http://www.weallscheme.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-james-ian-mahinmi.jpg

[mingus]

Mahinmi can be a good energy/block guy i feel if given the opportunity. which means conistent playing time. he's been in some unofortunate situations and had some unfortunate things happen to him (i.e. injuries) that halted his development. not getting playing time does not mean he's a bad player. b/f J.J. Barrea and Chris Anderson got any playing time i figured they would be good, they just need an opportunity. said the same thing about Splitter too.

[ChumpDumper]

It's a catch 22. He's too inconsistent to get regular minutes on a contending team but he needs consistent minutes if he is ever going to develop. If he can develop any further, that is.

[jjktkk]

Mahinmi can be a good energy/block guy i feel if given the opportunity. which means conistent playing time. he's been in some unofortunate situations and had some unfortunate things happen to him (i.e. injuries) that halted his development. not getting playing time does not mean he's a bad player. b/f J.J. Barrea and Chris Anderson got any playing time i figured they would be good, they just need an opportunity. said the same thing about Splitter too.

2005 and still counting.

[GSH]

It's a catch 22. He's too inconsistent to get regular minutes on a contending team but he needs consistent minutes if he is ever going to develop. If he can develop any further, that is.


It was widely known and accepted that Mahinmi was a "project" when we drafted him. Anybody who was following the team back then knows that, and it's not really up for debate.

A project is a player that isn't ready for the NBA, but the team thinks he has a lot of upside potential. The Spurs did everything a team could be expected to do for Mahinmi, to help him develop from a project into an NBA player. You can blame the lack of development on the injuries, but the Spurs also gave him a lot of extra time, because of those injuries. And maybe the injuries are a sign that his frame can't handle the extra weight he needs to carry.

Usually when a player gets to Mahinmi's age, there's no more untapped upside. He's either got it or he doesn't. (In the draft, most players who finish their 4th year of college are considered to have little to no upside.) Mahinmi will be 26 in November, and he still needs to improve quite a bit. If he does, he will be a rare exception.

You guys can argue all you want, but chances are that he has already achieved most of his potential. He's not likely to ever be more than ho-hum. Are you really that excited about having another ho-hum player? Seriously? What you're concerned about for this Spurs team is the lack of yet another mediocre (at best) off-the-bench guy? Even if you believers are right about him, he doesn't change the landscape enough to get excited about.

[rjv]

It was widely known and accepted that Mahinmi was a "project" when we drafted him. Anybody who was following the team back then knows that, and it's not really up for debate.

A project is a player that isn't ready for the NBA, but the team thinks he has a lot of upside potential. The Spurs did everything a team could be expected to do for Mahinmi, to help him develop from a project into an NBA player. You can blame the lack of development on the injuries, but the Spurs also gave him a lot of extra time, because of those injuries. And maybe the injuries are a sign that his frame can't handle the extra weight he needs to carry.

Usually when a player gets to Mahinmi's age, there's no more untapped upside. He's either got it or he doesn't. (In the draft, most players who finish their 4th year of college are considered to have little to no upside.) Mahinmi will be 26 in November, and he still needs to improve quite a bit. If he does, he will be a rare exception.

You guys can argue all you want, but chances are that he has already achieved most of his potential. He's not likely to ever be more than ho-hum. Are you really that excited about having another ho-hum player? Seriously? What you're concerned about for this Spurs team is the lack of yet another mediocre (at best) off-the-bench guy? Even if you believers are right about him, he doesn't change the landscape enough to get excited about.

perfect analysis

[Calispursfan11]

perfect analysis

I don't think 26 is too old for untapped potential, especially if there's a lack of playing time. If so, then what's the use of waiting for Splitter to improve?

[TJastal]

I don't think 26 is too old for untapped potential, especially if there's a lack of playing time. If so, then what's the use of waiting for Splitter to improve?

Pop only goes for untapped potential in guys over 30.

[mariners]

Pop only goes for untapped potential in guys over 30.
Vince Carter is next

[Brazil]

It's a catch 22. He's too inconsistent to get regular minutes on a contending team but he needs consistent minutes if he is ever going to develop. If he can develop any further, that is.

He needs indeed to play for a weak team (Toronto, suns.. whatever) and try to get 10 to 15 mn, look GSW gave that to fricking Turiaf. If he continues to play for teams like Dallas he will go back in Europe in no time.

[Mel_13]

He needs indeed to play for a weak team (Toronto, suns.. whatever) and try to get 10 to 15 mn, look GSW gave that to fricking Turiaf. If he continues to play for teams like Dallas he will go back in Europe in no time.

I thought he would be best served going to back to Europe last summer. Find the best possible team that will play him 25+ mpg and get the game experience that he'll never get in the NBA. If there is any untapped potential there, it will only be realized with consistent PT.

OF course, as long as some NBA team is willing to pay him a million dollars a year to play in garbage time it will be tough for him to leave.

[Calispursfan11]

I think someone should give Ian a chance to show what he can do!

[purist]

during the Mavs introduction for the NBA finals. He sounded like an uncontrollable beast. It was frightening and inspiring, but heartbreaking to know he could have added that intensity to the Spurs' locker room this year and perhaps alleviated our deplorable defense on the front line significantly. 6-11, young, athletic and intense. What's not to like?

what's not to like? seriously? how 'bout the fact that he sucks.

[objective]

He screwed himself by choosing Dallas where he knew he was behind much bigger salaried and proven players. He'll probably never be any better than he is now because he still has another year on the Dallas deep bench.

But on the brightside, he has two more points in the NBA Finals than Matt Bonner ever will.

[Calispursfan11]

what's not to like? seriously? how 'bout the fact that he sucks.

Could you beat him one on one? I think he would dunk on your head and roar.

[GSH]

Could you beat him one on one? I think he would dunk on your head and roar.


"Your honor... the defense is willing to stipulate
that he couldn't beat the NBA player 1-on-1.
And I would like to add... so fucking what?"
http://penguindevil.com/blog/blogpics/pm1.jpg

[Calispursfan11]

"Your honor... the defense is willing to stipulate
that he couldn't beat the NBA player 1-on-1.
And I would like to add... so fucking what?"
http://penguindevil.com/blog/blogpics/pm1.jpg

I was asking your client if he could beat Ian one on one. I don't have an opinion on that, just that Ian would dunk on your client's head!

[purist]

Could you beat him one on one? I think he would dunk on your head and roar.

I'm sure he could. I'm not even 6 ft tall. :lol

But if that's the criteria (if you can beat me one on one and dunk on my head) there are probably a crap load of guys down at the local Y that could do the same, so maybe that's where RC and Pop should be recruiting.

:lobt:

[lefty]

Mahinmi NBA champ? :lol

[Calispursfan11]

Mahinmi NBA champ? :lol

And therein lies the irony!

[ChumpDumper]

Mengke Bateer NBA champ.

[Calispursfan11]

Mengke Bateer NBA champ.

Was Bateer one of the Spurs champions? Which year?

[Calispursfan11]

DJ Mbenga champ

[TwelveGs210]

Andrew Gaze baby

[Spurtacus]

Adam Morrison. Duh.

[SpursIndonesia]

Was Bateer one of the Spurs champions? Which year?

2003 championship, he was a nice practice dummy for impersonating Shaq body & strength if i recalled my memory correctly. A nice team mate too.

The first NBA champ from Asia ? CMIIW

[Calispursfan11]

Ian with the buzzerbeating clutch J!